China Plug-In Electric Car Sales September 2015

OCT 29 2015 BY MARK KANE 24

China plug-in electric car sales (source EV Sales Blog)

China plug-in electric car sales (source: EV Sales Blog)

The Chinese New Energy Car market (all-electric and plug-in hybrids) hit a new record level in September of some 16,600 units sold (up 170%!).

So far this year, 100,000 new plug-ins were sold and mark of 20,000 a month is expected to fall soon.


Plug-ins market share in China: above 0.7%


According to EV Sales Blog summary, sales are getting more diversified:

“So in short, China’s EV Market is booming and unlike past months, where it was dependent of a single model, right now there are several cars pulling the market up, in a sustained way, confirming what many analysts have been saying for years: The EV Revolution will happen first in China.”

BYD, which we typically cover separately as  the largest manufacturer, is now approaching 6,000 sales a month. The Qin should remain the top seller this year, although now the top selling BYD model is Tang SUV.

In September, the Kandi Panda EV recorded the highest sales number, while the Denza (BYD & Daimler JV) and Venucia E30 (rebadged Nissan LEAF) saw some increases in sales, although both still occupy the bottom of the table.

Top non-China made car – Tesla already sold more Model S (3,025) than in the whole of 2014 (2,499).

Source: EV Sales Blog

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They sure seem to be kicking our butts here in the US.

Well, China has the curse/blessing that the authoritarian government can make sharp edicts. They say things like “you can register any EV easily but you need to enter a lottery to get a gas car registration” and that will quickly boost EVs sales.

Of course, have such power means you can implement a lot of bad things too.

* any EV BUILT in China by a Chinese or joint venture company.

If the outcome is good or bad, everyone knows who mandated the edict.

And can do s*** about it.

800 000 ‘political’ prisoners can attest to it.

All this China bashing. Meanwhile, US has highest prison population in the world. US also gives EV government subsides, just like China gives EV subsidies.

Let’s face it. China is doing well with EV. I especially like their Tang from specs. I wish they’d bring the good ones to US.

May we live in interesting times!

The War on Drugs is political, and it’s the source of the plurality of American prisoners. The prison slave labor industry that is arising in the US will fight like hell to keep that war going – and the voters support it as long as they think only the races they hate will be arrested or shot. So I guess that’s the difference between a democracy and a dictatorship today.

So it appears that 2015 is the year that China has over taken the U.S. in annual EV sales.
(looking at YTD-Sept of 82,400 for US vs 99,700 for China)

In 2016 even Ford will try to sell a PHEV in China, expanding C-Max Energi sales beyond US, Canada, and Netherlands.

http://www.industryleadersmagazine.com/ford-motor-co-announces-investment-plans-for-its-plug-in-hybrid-car-c-max-energia/

I don’t at all mean to suggest that certain sales “don’t count”. As far as income for an auto maker goes, a sale is a sale is a sale.

But I wish there was a way to break out sales to Chinese government fleets. With the central government mandating that at least 30% of all government purchases have to be New Energy Vehicles — which, with few exceptions, means plug-in EVs — just because a PEV gets purchased, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s being driven. I wonder how many of those guv’mint mandated PEV purchases get parked and just gather dust, in a fleet parking lot with no EV charge points?

Bottom line: Sales mandated by the Chinese government are no indication of popular demand for PEVs, and are not necessarily an indication of the number of PEVs actually being driven.

And norwegian EVs might just be used as drop bombs to kill seals from oil tankers.

I don’t suggest anything here since I don’t have any proof or indication that it’s true, just some strange view of how norwegians are.

Bottom line: Norwegians hate seals, especially baby seals.

Oh… and by the way, the popular demand for PEVs in China is above 30 million per year.

It is a fair question. Unfortunately it is not easy to find comprehensive data. One source I have found segments the applications for the license plate lottery in August (I think) in 4 Major cities (Beijing, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Shenzhen) into “individual person” and “corporate” applications. I presume government vehicles would also fall under the latter category. You can find the numbers in the link below. From These, it looks like >90% of applications were from individual persons.

As a second data Point, you can look at what Kind of vehicles sell well. Most of them are just not really suitable for official use. I mean the Qin starts to blink and beep like a spaceship when you open the door. The Tang is probably too “wild”, and what what official would want to drive around in a Kandi, Zotye or Chery?

I think it is fair to say that at this point the vast majority of vehicles are sold to individuals.

http://m.nev.ofweek.com/2015-09/ART-71008-8420-29007251.html

How is that any different really than a US or European municipal/regional government agency deciding to buy EVs? Or, for that matter, a commercial company doing so?

A lot of orgs, commercial, non-profit, governmental or other might want/need to look green to their customers/members/donrs/constituents…

Interesting that the Kandi car topped the sales chart in September.
Presumably, these figures include the cars used for car-sharing in the Kandi car dispensers.
Some months ago, Kandi was announcing a rapid deployment of Kandi dispensers.

But this means they get driven a lot 🙂

Kandi? Like a giant Pez dispenser?

I checked Chinaautoweb.com; it shows this car as being available for lease only at 25 yuan/hour. But it estimates the cost “before incentives & subsidies” as 55,000 yuan, which is less than $10,000. 80 km top speed, 80 km range, so 50 miles on both.

China needs to start exporting these to the rest of the world into counties that the rest of the EV manufactures do not or will supply, that is where the real money is.

China has hundreds of car companies. I think the government intends brutal competition to force mergers to create a few big winners, which will be able to survive losing billions of dollars cultivating their brands overseas. I think it would prefer that these winners include EVs in their lineups. It’s like what Japan’s MITI did to force its companies to consolidate and produce better cars (failed on the former, succeeded on the latter) entirely with export earnings in mind, and found that its superior small cars were the icebreakers for getting into the huge US market. Japan gave big tax breaks for the smallest cars, which gave many companies their start since they were cheaper to develop; this new technology then trickled upward to bigger cars better suited to the US.

Every month the Chinese numbers are released and evey month people imply that they are less impressive or important than the US numbers because the Chinese government fleets bulk buy Chinese ev’s and that the licence plate regulations are forcing people into ev’s. They also bemoan protectionist laws around sales of non-domestic built cars. The thing is I fail to understand is how the carb laws that force auto manufacturers to sell zero emision cars, how US government fleets buying ev’s, how carb regulations that make it harder to sell the outlander or i3 in the US or any of the other US regulations are that different to those of the Chinese.

As far as I see it, in both the US and China it is becoming less acceptable to pollute with both governments being pushed by the people in their nations to increasingly pass regulations that encourage new cleaner technologies into the market. IMO this is a good thing.

Cheers! All these China bashing is blinding people to the benefits of EV, mandated, fleets or whatever. It just like in US, all the Climate change bashing is turning people off from benefits of cheap EV. I mean, when SparkEV was leasing for $38/mo (not $138), people still spouted anti-climate change nonsense. Even now when SparkEV is selling cheaper than SparkGas, they still cling to nonsense.

So I looked up the top-selling cars from the chart above. Relatively inexpensive at current exchange rates. Pretty boring. But if I were to buy one, the SAIC Roewe 550 PHEV looks like a solid car. About Accord-sized, about 200 hp combined and lots of torque, 12 kwh battery pack, 58 km all-electric claimed. 250,000 yuan. The non-hybrid 550 closest in power is the turbo, at 150 to 180,000 yuan.

In their market, this must be a very nice car. Probably bigger than what a govt. fleet would use there. No way to tell how well-built it is or if it’s got a profit margin. Does anyone know anything about it?

I’m surprised by the Denza, it has more range then the current range of electric cars the rest of the world gets, at 300km that range is nothing to scoff at.

At ~ 60k dollar it’s not the most expensive thing ever, but with quite a bit of luxury.

They also do it with 47kWh of LifePo batteries instead of the denser LiIon packs. Those Iron Phosphate batteries are a lot easier to work with safety wise but still allow for a simple design. And if the battery is large enough the discharge rate for any motor is easily achieved.

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