Chevrolet Volt Fans Discuss Next-Gen Pricing, Features & More

JUN 25 2015 BY ELECTRICCARSTV 31


Chevrolet releases this video in which Chevrolet Volt fans discuss next-generation Volt pricing, features and more at a screening of Disney’s Tomorrowland.

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Scramjett

*Sigh* If they REALLY wanted me to consider the Volt, then they should’ve had a family of four with two small kids in this video talking about how well it works for their family.

I don’t see it working for my family of four with two small kids.

Nate

The Volt has worked great for us and we have 2 kids ages 2.5 and 7, at the time we got it they were just 7 months old and 5 yrs.

The lease will be up later next year and I would keep it if it made sense to buy it for the residual, but given what you can get a ussd leaf for now that might make more sense.

James

Lots of people leased their first electric car under all the speculation of battery wear and longevity. After the lease, you turn the car in and kiss every penny you spent on it goodbye.

The LEAF looks to be great for that since the battery pack isn’t designed with the robustness GM has put into the Volt. Volt was a temperature-contolled, liquid-cooled design from the start. We’ve seen stories here of Volts with extremely high miles on them. I think the Volt is a car you can buy and feel confident about your purchase for ten years or so. Why rent when you can buy?

2015 Volt seats your entire family of four comfortably. If your family is like mine, you won’t need that small 5th seating position very often. When you do, it’s there. No point in buying a vehicle that seats 7 when one person is using the car 90% of the time.

Londo Bell

Then you may have missed the recent story from InsideEVs regarding the 100K mi LEAF with not a single capacity bar lost. MY13+ LEAFs have very robust battery too, it seems, from owners’ reports, and that’s without the expensive, complex, and potential dangerous liquid cooling system in the Volt.

In addition, LEAFs have 5 seats all long – as a “no compromise” for 3 people at the back. The back seat of the Volt is really limited in comfort, especially when the kids have grown to teenagers. The new “5th” seat is suitable really for a infant car seat, due to the cupholders position prohibiting the middle seater to sit without spreading his/her thighs/legs – something that will be difficult if there are 3 at the back.

Spider-Dan

I don’t think one Leaf with minimal battery degradation outweighs the hundreds, if not thousands, of Leafs with degradation.

But more importantly: the Volt outsold the Leaf until a few months ago, so there are at least as many candidates for degradation… yet it’s nearly impossible to find ANY examples of Volt battery degradation AT ALL.

In short, the Volt’s cooling system is precisely as complex as it needed to be, while the Leaf’s cooling system was not nearly as complex as it should have been.

Nate
Londo, it looks like you are making issues out of non issues with your description of the Volt’s battery engineering, which is excellent. Sounds like you are a bit biased. As far as middle seats go here is my take — If you have 2 kids in child seat age, it would be very difficult to squeeze an extra person or child seat in that middle seat of the Leaf. When you have 2 car seats and more than 4 people, it is much more comfortable having something with a 3rd row. Where having a middle seat seems more important is the situation where you only have 1 younger child, because then you generally want the car seat in the middle rear position. I’ve owned many cars and the only real use the middle rear seat has gotten has been the time period we had 1 child. Next gen Volt solves that niche. But, for me it is non issue. I think both the Volt and the Leaf (as long as it is a 2013+ Leaf) are solid cars. There is a decent chance I switch to a used Leaf but that would be due to them being dirt cheap… Read more »
Spider-Dan

I also leased a 2013 Volt. The sticker price on it was ~$46,500. Including the $3500 I put down and the $293/mo for 39 mos, I will be kissing $14,927 worth of pennies goodbye when I turn it in.

However, given that a fully-loaded 2013 Volt currently has a blue book value of ~$16,500, after you back out the $7500 federal rebate that I didn’t receive, I would be looking at $22,500 in depreciation vs. the $15,000 I spent. So I’m comfortable with the decision I made to lease.

Nate
James, where you say “Lots of people leased their first electric car under all the speculation of battery wear and longevity. After the lease, you turn the car in and kiss every penny you spent on it goodbye” You’re simply wrong, because you’re not taking into account that you can buy out the lease if it is in your best interest to do so based on the resale value. Before leasing, you should compare how the numbers stack up against your best finance option. It isn’t hard to compare the difference in payment amounts along with the difference with residual vs the amount remaining on an amoritization table. When you lease you finance the expected depreciation instead of financing the entire thing (or purchasing with cash and loosing the investment value of that cash). If the car holds its value better than expected, you can purchase the car at your residual value, in which case every penny of what you made in payments is not kissed goodbye. If the car holds its value worse than expected, you can turn it back and kiss your negative equity goodbye (which is not an option with traditional financing). You have the option to… Read more »
Scramjett

How did you use it? Was it a commuter/errand car or did you take it on trips with luggage and all of the other nick/knacks necessary for your youngest?

Nate
It is out main vehicle and the one we put most of the miles on. We switch off some based on whoever is driving more (person who is driving longer distance gets the Volt). Our other vehicle is a Sienna. It gets used as little as possible, but sometimes it is very helpful for example when we haul a utility trailer, when I had to buy a new dishwasher (went right in the back upright), when in-laws or parents come to visit, when my wife car pools for play dates (takes another mom we are friends with and their 2 kids along). Typically these situations that don’t work for the Volt actually don’t work for other available plug ins. A lot of days my commute is less miles than what the wife and kids are doing (especially when I bike). When that is the case the Volt is the main kid hauler. By the way, I’m a tad under 6 ft. When the 2 year old was younger and rear facing I did have to move the seat up a little more than I like, because my wife liked having his seat behind the driver seat (she drives the car… Read more »
bro1999

I own a 2012 Volt, and have a 4 person family (2 kids, ages 5 and 7). The Volt was acquired when they were 3 and 5.

For the most part, the Volt fits our family’s needs very well. The only time we don’t take the Volt is when we know we will need to be carrying 5 passengers, or if we take a trip with a lot of cargo (think camping or a weekend at Grandma’s house 300 miles away).

The only real knock I have (aside from the small hatch…but it’s a compact sedan, what do you expect) is the leg room for my daughter when she seats behind me. I can’t position the seat as far back as I would like, as it would result in her feet getting squeezed due to the way her legs hang off the end of the seat in a booster. I’ve gotten used to driving the Volt with the seat moved up.

Scramjett

Yeah, see, that is my problem with the Volt. Our situation is that we are able to pull off being a one car family. However, that means we need a good deal of versatility, which the Volt does NOT have.

Even if we were to go back to being a two car family, it still wouldn’t cut it because any PHEV or EREV I get I would want to use as the trip/spare car. Therefore, it would still need to be versatile. And that is not what the Volt is.

I hate to say it, but Bob Lutz said the Volt should have been an SUV…and he was right.

Spider-Dan

I’m puzzled by your logic for your car needs. Why would you use an EV as the “trip” car that you need to stuff all your family and luggage in, when that’s basically the worst possible application for an EV? EVs work best as daily commuters.

Seems to me that you would be best served by getting an ICE SUV as your trip/spare car (as no EV south of $75k will meet that need anyway), and using a Volt (or even a BEV) as your daily driver. But that’s me.

Nate
I understand his situation. For a family of 4 having something with a lot more room can be handy. The difference between our situation is that for us it would be harder to going to just one car. I can commute by bike part of the year but a decent part of the year (fall/winter) it is too dark and rainy to fell all that safe doing that. So we’ve always had 2 vehicles. For us, the situations that a Volt is too small are actually pretty much the same for the Leaf and most cars in general. For example, when in laws or parents come to visit, or when I want to haul a trailer for a yard project, or when we took a two week road trip during the holidays and we brought a bunch of things for Christmas along with us. So, our second vehicle is a Sienna. We have done some mid range trips with the Volt, like a trip to the coast, and another one to Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Rainier in the Volt though and it has been fine. Whenever possible we use the Volt – it is more fun to drive, easier… Read more »
Scramjett

I presume you are referring to my “two car” family reference. The reason is because I’ve had a taste of EVs and I don’t want to go back to just ICE. With a Volt like EREV or even a C-Max like PHEV, I can use the ICE in the car for the highway portion of the trip and then have a charged battery pack for the destination (and hopefully access to a plug to top off as needed). I find having an engine running for short trips of a few miles extremely painful these days. And not very kind to the pocket book either.

bro1999

Btw, the “family hauler” that compliments our Volt is a Cmax Energi. I can complete my 17 miles commute with the Cmax gas free most of the year, and when we need to go on a road trip, I load my rear cargo box and roof rack on the Cmax.

The Volt is used to drive around town all other times. Being a 2 PHEV family had worked out splendidly for us. I just wish a true plug-in SUV was on the market, but the Cmax is a capable fill-in.

Scramjett

To clarify, we would also need the cargo space for camping and weekend at grandma’s. And the Volt doesn’t have it.

Nate
Scamjett, now that I understand your situation and how you’d like to stick to being a 1 car family, I can understand wanting something bigger. Some might say, rent something on the occasions that the Volt isn’t big enough because most of the time it is. The same has been said for the Leaf (but usually for the range thing). I don’t like that solution all that much. For a family with 2 young kids, I think it can be hard enough to kid out the door for a camping or road trip. Adding in one more task to arrange the rental sounds like a hassle. Also, the vehicle which I think is most useful for when you have extra people and/or gear is a minivan or large 3 row SUV like a Suburban. Those aren’t cheap to rent, as the rental companies know that sometimes it is the only thing that does the job well. I hear people wanting the Voltec drivetrain in a crossover like the Equinox. I’d rather see it in the Traverse, as some of the times the Volt is too small for us the same can be said for the Equinox.
Ziv

The Gen II Volt is a very solid small car. The back seat is tiny so it really isn’t the right car for me, but I have enjoyed my 2013MY Volt for the past 2 years. When my lease ends next year I won’t be getting another Volt, even though it is a great car. I just drive with 2 or 3 passengers too often.
The Gen II price is too high for the sales to take off much even with the improved AER. 50 miles is huge. But it won’t sell in large numbers until GM gives it an MSRP of $29,900. Too bad, I had really hoped the Volt would succeed and sell in large numbers.

The issue is that half or three-quarters of the way through this model, GM is likely to run out of 7,500 tax credits. So they’ll have to adjust the price of the vehicle. For now they may try to run it at an inflated price and they know they’ll have to cut the price by 5K to somewhere around 28K when the incentive runs out. GM will likely have sold around 125K Volts by the time the Bolt comes out, and at 30K/yr each, it wont take long to hit the limit.

So they have 3 years to tweak the car to get the price down.

Anon

After seeing the Volt Concept, Volt gen1 and now gen2 (which looks even less like the original concept, but more like a Civic), I’m wondering how divergent the released version of the Bolt will be, after they cost reduce it for mass production?

The video I saw, showed a metal stick being used to prop up the front hood, for example. The interior will certainly have to change, and what about those curved rear side windows? I liked those, so they’ll probably disappear and we’ll get something that looks like a fat VW Golf. 🙁

ModernMarvelFan

What a bunch of dorks…

bro1999

What were you expecting, supermodels and jocks?

ModernMarvelFan

Well, works on selling beers…

=)

James Appleton

Enjoy driving the 2015 Volt. Gets me around locally and drove it on a 200 mile trip and back,the only time I needed to buy gas since
I got it 6 months ago.Very comfortable with room for wife and three terriers.She would prefer more leg room in passenger seat.Equipped with lots ofoptions and very advanced technology. We like our Leaf a lot too,but it has limited range with battery only operation.

bill howland

The only thing that would concern me a bit about the 2016 volt is that it is almost identical to the 2016 Cruze in appearance.

The 2011 volt at least had a slightly different styling to keep it apart from the 2011 cruze.

Martin T

Exactly Bill,
Why would anyone wish to spend more money on a car that looks like a run of the mill Cruze.

Maybe GM should look into this with their Volt love fest ! & Sort it out for the next model – including better rear access and head room to make it more practical for rear seat adult passengers while give it a more Bolder EV futurist feel so ahem it can’t be mistaken for a base model Cruze !

Tom

The original Volt styling was great, unique and futuristic without being BMW i3. The new stylizing is so bland. I was really disappointed at the Detroit Auto Show.

I don’t want to drive a Cruze I want to drive a Volt.

Railfan

Who cares if somebody confuses the looks of the Volt with the Cruze. It’s what’s in the inside that counts.

Londo Bell

Buyers do!

The 1st thing that you see on a vehicle – show room, online, or wherever, the exterior!

If what you said is true, why would automakers have many colors for exterior, vs the usual 2 or 3? Or the options you can have for the different types of exterior modifications, vs pretty much just 1 or 2 types of interior, confined mostly to the central console?

Railfan

Have you been around long enough to see the change that has taken place during the last dozen or so years in regards to the choices for exterior colors? They are terrible; a couple of whites, a couple of greys, black, maroon(regardless of what they call it), and maybe some shade of blue. Not much of a choice, and real “blah” at that. No bright reds, no greens, no yellows, etc. Nothing eye catching or exciting. So tell me again how important the exterior is in attracting customers.

While I appreciate a pleasing exterior design, it’s what is in the inside that counts; not only in the cabin by the way, but also what drives the car. And that means with the Cruze vs. Volt debate here, the difference between total ICE vs. electric and (to a lessor extent) ICE propulsion.

I guess if exterior looks are more important than the rest of the car, then there would be good reasons for discouragement. I can always drive look-a-like car, and just put a bumper sicker on it saying: “It’s not mine,….really”.