Source: Chevrolet Bolt Production Now Underway

OCT 26 2016 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 124

2017 Chevrolet Bolt

2017 Chevrolet Bolt

Via WRVoltec on Twitter, it seems that production of saleable 2017 Chevrolet Bolts at GM’s Orion, Michigan facility started this past Monday.

Production is on the low side for now, with just 9 Bolts rolling off the line per hour and only 1 shift working on producing the Bolt, but the ramp up over time should get that figure to 30 Bolts per hour.

We’ve known for quite some time now that Bolt production was just around the corner. In fact, dealers began accepting orders some two weeks ago (partial ordering guide here), with allocations beginning for select dealerships just prior.

What’s interesting is the 30-per-hour figure.  30 times 8 hours is 240 Bolts per day. Minus weekends, there are 261 work days per year (yes, we know there are plant shutdowns, holidays, etc.). 261 times 240 equals a maximum output of 62,640 units per year (a high-side figure, for sure), or more than twice the Bolt volume that LG Chem expects for 2017.

The point is that the goal of 30 per hour would indicate to us that General Motors is serious when it comes to the Bolt. High volume production is the target and that’s what we’ve been waiting to hear.

Bring on the Bolt…in numbers…we’ll buy them up!

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9 per hour would then be about equal to how many volts then.

I imagine its production capacity is well beyond that figure too. Unfortunately

Good to hear. Even 9 per hour/single shift is around 1400 in the first month of production. I imagine that they will be ramping up over the weeks to come.
The Bolt (and LG Chem) may surprise many in the months to come with regards to production/sales.

A rumor supposedly sourced from a Bolt parts supplier said 25k-30k production in year 1; a more recent official source said >30k. Doesn’t seem to be much difference there.

So I’ll be surprised if we’re surprised. 🙂

I hear you, Pushmi.
LG Chem production capacity for the Bolt is the main limit on sales, though there are obviously others as well. Chevrolet’s reputation for selling poorly built small cars is a huge issue for GM to work around.
But if GM can sell 35-40k Bolt in 2017, I would be surprised but not dumbfounded.
It would be nice to be surprised on the up side when it comes to GM plug in car sales.
LOL!

As an EV advocate, of course I’m hoping that demand for the Bolt will surprise GM, and that they will go ahead and significantly ramp up production in following years. Unfortunately, given many many reports about legacy auto dealers being reluctant to try to sell EVs even when they have them on the lot — and that problem is definitely not confined to GM — I question that Bolt sales are really going to take off in the way we expect Tesla Model ≡ sales will. I hope that doesn’t come across as GM bashing. Despite what some other EV advocates have written here, I really think the international demand for the Bolt might rival that of the Model ≡. In fact, given the lack of demand for sedans in Europe, and the popularity of small to mid-sized hatchbacks like the Bolt, it might even be possible for international demand for the Bolt to exceed that of the Model ≡. (Heresy, coming from a Tesla fanboy like me, I know! 🙂 ) So I am rather displeased to read that GM plans to send very few Bolts to Europe for sale in the first year. Here is hoping that in… Read more »

3-shift, 30/hour = 180k.

That would be something… 🙂

If the first 6-12 months of sales look good (and I expect them to…), and there are no serious design/production issues discovered, I’m sure GM will scale production as fast as battery plant capacity allows.

Don’t forget that Bolt production is also limited by LG Electronics’ ability to make the Bolt powertrain. LG Electronics’ automotive division is new, and so far as I know, they’ve never handled anything on this scale before. I’ve been accused of bashing both GM and the Bolt because I’m a Tesla fanboy, when I’ve pointed that out in previous posts. I don’t see it that way at all. I’m just pointing out that we have reason to be cautious about how much and how fast Bolt production could be ramped up, even if GM wanted to do so. I always try to keep my hopes separate from what I think is the most likely or realistic possibility. My hope is that GM will challenge Tesla for this market segment, and will make a real effort to ramp up Bolt production as fast as Tesla ramps up Model ≡ production. But realistically, it looks to me like GM has made choices which will strongly limit how fast they can ramp up production… and I’m not convinced that they want to ramp it up significantly, even if they could do so. Someone recently wrote a comment to InsideEVs that said the only… Read more »

Regarding that last paragraph: I should credit georgeS, as he made the same point in greater detail in a comment he posted earlier, located below.

Push,

You think there are more question marks surrounding the Bolt ramp up than with the Model 3?

In the long run, absolutely. It will almost certainly take Tesla longer to ramp up than they plan, but they won’t stop until production meets market demand, or at least is quite close to it. Contrariwise, the question with Bolt production is much more a matter of just how much GM wants to ramp up production. And note that they can’t just buy batteries from another supplier. They’re getting a “sweetheart deal” price of $145/kWh from LG Chem, and I strongly doubt that any other battery vendor can match that price. Seems to me that any choice GM makes to ramp up production faster than LG Chem can produce batteries will result in a higher cost for GM… and therefore an even thinner profit margin. My conclusion is that GM has some pretty strong reasons to not ramp up production of the Bolt faster than LG Chem can build out new battery production capacity. And they may well have solid business reasons not to ramp production up even that fast. Here’s a quote on the subject, probably from a year or two ago. I think it’s not quite as true now as when it was posted, but it’s still mostly… Read more »

Realistically, its price is almost double of similar gas cars and range is limited, even if 238 miles is huge leap forward. It will be sold mostly in North America only in 2017, and some 30,000 is just reasonable expectation of demand. No Big Oil/Evil Autodealer conspiracy theories are need to explain it.

Way too many politicians and government employees have not bought into sustainability and fighting climate change. That’s very evident in the amount of support Trump received in his presidency bid. If the federal government really got onboard with promoting electric vehicles, the government could change the attitude of John Q Public very quickly.

As it is, you have had a few visionary politicians that have gotten a few environment laws passed but those laws are getting pushed down the throats of other reluctant politicians and government employees. So there may not be a conspiracy but there certainly is a lot of manipulation and sabotage of energy policies at the highest levels. All I can say is that I have been fighting this battle for decades and it’s an uphill battle but we are making progress from the bottom up, not the top down.

Nah, realistically the Bolt carries a premium of about $5,000 over comparable ‘hot hatchbacks’, at least if the buyer can use the full federal tax credit.

I.e. Ford Focus ST base price is $25,000.

Just in time for Halloween. Here’s a costume for your Bolt EV 😀

Please Kdawg, I have a heart disease… that was really shocking! 😉

The horror, the horror! 😮

LOL that poor Bolt! But actually I like your thinknig…

Vote
Bolt – Volt 2016
For President!

They’re going to make Driving Great Again!

LOL
“Make Driving great again.”

too bad it’s not true. Trump wants to end the “War on Coal”

I want the war on coal to go on until coal is out of business. We need the EPA regs on CO2 to get passed. CO2 is a harmful gas to the future of mankind and should be regulated…..and it will be.

I hope that’s why a lot of us want EV’s. Eliminate 20 lbs of CO2 for every gallon of gas we burn in our ICE vehicles.

Coal has been declining and I think it’s safe to say it will continue to do so…

…seeing as how at this point, the Bolt EV is about as likely to win the election as Donald Trump is. 🙂 (it ain’t happening)

Bring on more renewable please!

What city do you live in?

Good that he wants to end the “war on coal” i too like to see the final defeat of coal. 😀

Trumpster Mobile

Would that be a Trumpkin?

After having sat in one at the local auto show, I’m just not sure this car is going to have enough “wow” factor beyond the EV faithful. Look at the new Volt. A great PHEV by most measures and reviewed well…and yet it sort of hangs out around the 2K/mo number. No breakout hit. The Bolt may, in fact, not even do that well…

The same reasoning, probably, makes GM say 30k cars a year. We all hope that it will be way more, but if it goes like the Volt, 30k could even be optimistic.

True but other than Tesla, the Volt has been either the top selling or second top selling EV every year since it’s release. (In the US)

The Bolt is a much more practical body style and the longer range and fast charge capability might be more appealing to those BEV Die Hard who are PHEV-Phobic.

How big is the BEV die hard market? They better sell to the regular American buyer, to reach high volumes.

Well I think that the long range, fast charging and more utility/space are what will make it a bigger hit than the Volt with the average buyer. Much better for small families.

But the first year will almost certainly be primarily existing EV drivers and Lift drivers, not first timers.

But once word gets out and people start seeing the car on the street and asking questions… I would be very surprised if the Bolt EV is not averaging a minimum of 4000 a month by its second model year.

I don’t think fast charging is that important to a Volt driver. You buy a Volt so you don’t have to charge fast.

If someone has a home with a garage, and has a commute less than 50 miles then the Volt makes perfect sense over the Bolt EV.

If you have a Volt and no garage (like myself) the slow charging makes it more difficult to drive on EV miles unless you’re committed to it.

An 80 mile EV with fast charging is slightly more practical for an apartment dweller like myself, but it will most likely need to be charged more than once a week.

But 200+ mile EV that can be charged in 30 mins to an hour? Most drivers can go at least a week before re-charging and it can be done very quickly.

I love my Spark EV and Volt, but The Bolt EV just continues to widen the pool of people who might be able to make EV’s work for them. 🙂

The Bolt (or rather the Ampera-E) will do more than 2k a month in Europe alone. Assuming the price is remotely close to the US price and not twice the price like the Volt.

9/hr alraedy beats i3 production rate…

Ehm. No?

They are producing about 50 of the i3 a day six days a week. But thanks for your input.

ehm no, according to BMW own sources the i3 production was increased from 70 to 100 vehicles per day in 2014.

I don’t know the actual number, but i’m sure its above 100/day. Since the 33kWh version was well recieved all over the world, production rate is surely up by another 60% or more.

They are at least selling cars globally that makes them have to produce at a rate of about 95-110 i3’s per day if they do 6 day weeks of production.

The goal of the Bolt was to provide a low cost, long range EV. Chevrolet went minimalistic to meet this goal. I think we are going to have to wait for later production runs to see a much more sophisticated Bolt.

I’m not sure what you mean by “minimalistic”, but I don’t want door handles that present themselves or falcon wing doors. K.I.S.S and make it robust/affordable.

I meant that the base model has as much refinement as you would expect for a taxi cab or commercial vehicle and there are very few advanced options currently available. This level of refinement should be okay if your main requirement is a low cost, long range EV. But if you are looking for Cadillac features the Chevrolet Bolt is probably not for you.

That brings up an interesting point, maybe Cadillac will come out with a version of the Bolt. Maybe Cadillac can make the Bolt a little longer with a second rear motor for a 400 hp all-wheel-drive version. I think a Cadillac Bolt would sell much better than the ELR.

PHEV version of Cadillac CT6 is going to be released early next year. Largest GM Sedan.

By 2040, Worldwide Coal fired electric generation will be 20% greater than it was in 2014. Even if Hillary is elected. Doesn’t matter if the US stops 100% of coal generation.

George “Save the Planet” Soros wouldn’t be the world’s largest coal owner unless he could make money at it.

because other developing countries really want to emulate China and its experiences? not to mention the leaps and bounds renewable energy could make 20+ years!? you sound absolutely absurd.

and then there’s the very real risk of large-scale deaths worldwide due to the climate change we’re experiencing already which promises to likely grow in strength and occurrence. be it powerful storms or extreme heat.

meanwhile older generations with a death grip on outdated thinking grow fewer in numbers and influence. I’m inclined to think this is you.

HA!

Not my information: POWER magazine is staking their reputation on it, and THEY ARE FULLY IN ON THE GLOBAL WARMING POLEMIC.

In any age group, there are smart people, and then there are clowns, misfits, Superdopes, and Greenhorns.

I can think of examples in each age group.

Thanks for providing one.

Love my self presenting door handles on my Model S and self opening doors on the Model X I will pick up Saturday.

And Level 5 autopilot which will be avaliable on all Teslas as of Oct 17 and on the Model 3

Want minimalistic and good mileage, ride a bicycle.

Possible level 5 hardware. There is no level 5 coming soon and it’s not even sure that the hardware in the autopilot 2.0 will be enough when the time comes.

I find your comment arrogant and insulting. I rode electric bicycles for years before I could justify buying a road worthy EV. Bicycles are not practical or safe for most transport needs and anyone that suggests that you use one because you don’t want to pay for a Model X has more money than sense.

Tesla got rid of the self-presenting door handles on the Model 3. (and thank you.. just one more thing to go wrong).

I don’t need cowbell. I need a robust design, not prone to failure.

Then you probably should cancel your reservation on the Model3 and just get a boring BoltEV:)

The bolt is far fron boring. Its incredibly peppy, roomier than it looks and has lots of tech. I would prefer it was buick branded but it is gonna be a hit.

Adoptive cruise control and 2 position electrically adjusted driver seat would be expected features in $37k car. It is 2017 model, not 1997. I still hope GM will improve it in 2018.

Clear out the orphanages, it’s adoptive cruise control

There is never going to be a perfect car. You have to decide what features are the most important to you. The FFE has power seats and a great infotainment system but a small battery and no ACC; the i3 has stop-and-go ACC but a small battery and no power seats; the Bolt has a large battery but no power seats and no ACC; etc.; etc.

At this stage of development I think the large battery of the Bolt trumps most other features. I would like to have an EV with all-wheel-drive, ACC and Lane Centering but all I’m really interested in is a long range replacement of my FFE at a reasonable cost. Under my conditions nothing really compares to the Bolt.

I’m pretty sure the Bolt is priced with the federal tax credit in mind … I think practically no one will buy a Bolt who cannot take advantage of the tax credit. So $30,000 car, not $37,000.

When will it be in central Florida dealers?

March 2018.

Model 3 will be out by then…sorry GM I’m going with Tesla.

Wanna bet it’s closer to March 2017?

Oops! That is more likely.

Really exciting times to be in.

I looked to see if the Bolt had trailer hitch mounting points at the auto show at the Texas State Fair. There weren’t any obvious mounting points but there was a lot of room between the rear bumper and the rear storage compartment. The lower bumper shroud would have to be replaced or removed to install a hitch.

I looked at my GMC SUV to see how it’s Class 3 hitch was installed. The Class 3 hitch actually replaces the rear bumper and uses the rear bumper mounts. I see no reason why the rear bumper of the Bolt can’t be replaced with an engineered Class 1 hitch but we might have wait for someone to design a replacement bumper or for Chevrolet to come out with a hitch option.

It’s nice when a manufacturer actually delivers what they promised on time…

. . . without countless delays due to hubris.

I am not holding my breath waiting for a Bolt to be obtainable at a dealer near me in Cleveland, Ohio. I believe GM is going to wisely seed a large number of Bolts to ride sharing companies first, so fhere is a large number of Bolts racking up mileage in a controlled fleet scenario.

The rest of available Bolts are probably going to be shipped to regions with mild climates. THe South and South West run the risk of consumer complaints if there is heat induced battery deterioration – just ask Honda and Nissan about bad battery PR.

Here in the cold North, we need heat three seasons of the year to defog our windows, and running heat combined with cold reduced charge capaciy takes a large bite out of available range. With the Bolts rolling into dealers around January 2017, the last thing GM would want is to have customers see range below published maximium spec due to cold weather.

I throw a swag of 4th of July for the Midwest, but have no clue really. I think it probably depends on demand on the first rollout states.

Mostly it depends on how many Chevy wants and can produce. Contrary to what many think, I think once it’s out there, in any numbers, sometime next Summer, they will just let it glide along silently coming in around 20k-22k for the 2017 calendar year.

There is already quite a bit of pent-up demand as Tesla has shown, and Chevy has beaten them to the punch, which is what, mainly, they wanted to do, not sell Bolts in great numbers.
JMO. Wait a year and I will eat Kdawgs pilgrim hat, (figuratively), if I am way off.

Right. It will be a while until it comes to a neighborhood near you. Lyft, CA,OR, will eat up the first allotment, whatever that means numerically, maybe 3k-4k, or so says GM.

Then the remaining CARB states will get most of the rest of 2017 production.
So perhaps a year from now you could get one in OH.

Why so negative? The Texas dealers are already saying they are going to be getting the Bolt next year. I’m sure all the areas with strong EV populations will see the Bolt on dealer lots next year and probably before summer.

Then when I am wrong I will be happy, I was wrong. I would rather be wrong than right actually, I just don’t think I am.

I don’t think it’s going to be a full year. Let’s revisit the Gen1 Volt rollout. And remember, it didn’t launch until Dec 2010 with 1/2 the amounted of projected sales.

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Sales of the 2011 Chevrolet Volt began in selected markets due to limited initial production, as General Motors’ original target for 2011 was 10,000 units. The first cars were delivered in Washington D.C., the New York City metropolitan region, California, and Austin, Texas. By May 2011 the Volt had been launched also in Connecticut, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, and Virginia. Deliveries in Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Washington began in the third quarter of 2011. In June 2011, Chevrolet dealers nationwide began taking orders for the 2012 Volt, and deliveries in all 50 states began in November 2011.

That’s pretty close to what I said, since he is in OH, and the Volt got there in November for delivery, the rest of the 50 states, about a year after the initial release.

Bill said:

“The rest of available Bolts are probably going to be shipped to regions with mild climates. THe South and South West run the risk of consumer complaints if there is heat induced battery deterioration – just ask Honda and Nissan about bad battery PR.”

Nissan’s Leaf has battery problems in hot climates because Nissan cheaped out and didn’t put a TMS (Thermal Management System) into their battery packs.

There have not been similar problems with the Volt, so I doubt there will be with the Bolt either.

Of course, you could still be right about how GM will choose to distribute the early production Bolts.

You still can’t Build and Price the Bolt on Chevrolet.com.

And every Steve R. plant employee will be looking for a new job…

Or it was PR 🙂

Where’s Opel Ampera-e going to be produced? At the same line, or at an Opel plant in Europe?

Peter,
All Ampera’s will be made in the US and shipped over.

Great power train. Boring car. High price for what it is. Guaranteed not to sell more than 2500 or more per month….but that’s what GM wanted. They make more money selling gas cars. Management strikes again.

2,500/month would outsell 1/2 the cars on the market.

right…and how many trucks does GM sell per month? 2500/month is nothing in the overall scheme of things.

My point is GM could have put this power train in a more desirable car, but they didn’t and they did not for a reason. That reason being that GM management doesn’t WANT to sell more than 2500 per month. They are in the business to sell gas cars. That’s where they have the highest profit margin. The only reason GM sells EVs at all is because they have to to make the regs.

I happen to believe a small crossover is a very desirable platform. This is a growing segment. That argument applied to the Volt, but not this car.

No debate that a small crossover is a very desirable platform…The debate is if the Bolt EV is “small crossover”…The Honda fit looks pretty close to the Bolt EV, they do not call it a crossover/CUV…Honda did built what they call a CUV on the fit platform, they call that the HR-V…Not only does it actually look like a CUV, it offers more ride height over the Fit and AWD can be added…

Bottom line it seems only those who are interested in purchasing the Bolt are referring to it as a crossover/CUV, the overwhelming majority of Joe-Q-Public are lumping it into the Fit/Versa/Sonic FWD-only hatchback category…

For me, it’s a great platform.

What I’d love to see is an AWD Buick Encore EV.

With 150kW fast charge capability of course.

Silly logic. So why didn’t GM put the powertrain of the Corvette into a more desirable car? Why is it so boring that it only sells 2500/mo or less? I know, it’s because they want people to buy trucks instead of Corvettes because that’s where they make all their profit!

@kdawg
It’s not silly logic. Why not put this power train in a more desirable body? If you really want to sell something then you put it in a desirable package. My point is that the BoltEV is just not that desirable for a 40,000$ car.

How many people are going to walk up to this little compact and see the sticker and just walk? My guess is that most will. Same problem with the Volt IMO.

This little compact is a 29,000$ car at best.

Of course if you’re not really interested in selling more than 30,000 or so a year then what GM is doing makes perfect sense.

GM management packaged this power train in a package that is guaranteed no to sell more than 30,000 cars a year. That is what GM wants. …to sell a few but not too many.

They’d rather sell gas cars because they make more money.

But you are basing your logic on subjective assumptions.

I could say, “Why does Tesla only make big lang-yacht vehicles? Nobody wants these large boring sedans. It’s clear they are really controlled by big oil, who prevents them from developing more desirable cars that would be more mainstream.”

Instead of developing a conspiracy where one doesn’t exist, just say the Bolt EV does not fit your personal taste.

All we can do is speculate, GM probably will never dive into the details…

This is what we know…GM had the ICE Spark and made it into a Spark EV, it didn’t bother with a full aluminum body, increasing cargo space or building with car sharing in mind…The Spark and Sonic share the same platform and the Bolt EV originally started on that platform but evolved into it’s own platform…

More speculation, someone greenlighted the Bolt EV as the Lyft vehicle…Lyft vehicles need room especially since Lyft is aggressively pushing their shared rider “line” option so they had to make it bigger…In the process of making it bigger, since they no longer share Sonic’s body panels (because they want to enlarge openings) someone allowed them to use an aluminum body…Why aluminum vs Vettes much lighter fiberglass? It was leaked the next gen Silverado body will be using aluminum extensively…Ultimately the Bolt EV started as a Sonic EV and morphed into several technologies that was added to the MSRP…

GM had three pet projects…Somehow it became a Lyft car built with car sharing in mind; somehow it got an exp

I suppose that is good news because the base price for me would be $27.5k after incentives 🙂

It’s not though, first for advertising purposes they cannot advertise that…Why? Because not everyone qualifies for the tax credit…Despite GM claiming this an “urban” vehicle, a lot of urban people live in a complex which means both they can have difficulty charging at home and many rent which greatly increases the odds they cannot take full advantage of the tax credit…Even if you can get the tax credit, it can take months or about a year until the credit affects your finances, most people would rather have lower monthly payments now…Lastly that’s a pure base, even with the LT you should get both the safety package and the DCFC (roughly $1250 total MSRP) Why buy this when you could just buy a Honda Civic for $20,400 which has a range of 520 miles and has all the safety features including ACC? Or if you’re wanting a “green” car the Prime which again includes all the HOV sticker in Cali and all the safety features with ACC?

georgeS said:

“This little compact is a 29,000$ car at best.”

The interior space makes it larger than a compact. It deserves to be labeled a mid-sized, even if the exterior measures smaller.

I really don’t see the utility of repeatedly calling the Bolt a “compact”. By every measure that people use when choosing a car, it’s larger than that.

Don’t try to call the Bolt a mid-size. It just doesn’t work. The thing is barely bigger than a Fit which is commonly called a sub-compact.

The designer called it a ‘segment buster’: with a C-segment (compact size, i.e. Civic or Corolla) interior on a B-segment (sub-compact size, i.e. Fit or Fiesta) platform. US mid-size cars like the Camry are D-segment.

Quote found in this article, which is way more negative than I am on the Bolt, FYI. http://jalopnik.com/chevy-still-doesnt-know-how-to-make-an-electric-car-ame-1785003431

I always find this argument rather silly… as if the Volt/Bolt would have exactly the same specs/price in a different form factor.

Do you want a Volt CUV that seats 5 comfortably, goes 30 EV miles, gets 35 MPG and costs $50K? How about a Bolt EV pickup truck that has a 120 mile range? Personally, I don’t think either of those products are particularly compelling.

Seems pretty clear to me that in the case of the Volt/Bolt, GM is trying to make the most practical car they can, with the best range, for the lowest MSRP they can get away with. This idea that GM is sandbagging EVs to protect gasmobiles flies in the face of 15 years of Prius dominance, and is also contradicted by the fact that no other automaker is making anything remotely comparable for the same price.

Bravo, Spider-Dan! Well said, sir.

Now, if GM sits on the tech and doesn’t put it into another car for years and years, as they did with Voltec (other than the overpriced, failed Cadillac ELR), then there would be legitimate cause for complaint.

But for GM’s first BEV, what they have accomplished is impressive, especially the surprisingly long range and the interior room at that price. Not saying the car is perfect; I think they should have included DCFC capability as standard equipment. But all in all, it really does raise the bar for mass produced BEVs.

Sure, it is all GM conspiracy only that it needs to pay whooping $145*60=$8700 bargain price just for cells for this car. Or over $10,000 for pack, plus some 50% extra for sales/R&D/warranty/etc until it reaches retail price level.

The Chevy Volt is still an infrequent sight in NE Ohio. I still do a double-take when I spot a Volt on the road. In July 2016, there was 1 new Volt for sale on a Dealer lot within 50 miles of downtown Cleveland according to the Chevy web site; last time I looked it was up to 8 Volts available. At least avsilable inventory is headed in the correct direction. I really hope GM gets it right with the Bolt. I think it has a lot of potential ( wow,a pun!) as a practical car. Granted, the bolt isn’t exactly a show stopper for styling, but it should be very easy to live with as a daily driver. Where I think the opportunity has been missed by GM and others is in not building out the charging infradtructure to the point where range aniety and the need for 200 miles per charge is not an issue. I currently have a 2011 LEAF that I bought dirt cheap from a dealer when it was returned from a lease. In the suburb where I live, there is one charge location: the local Walmart made a deal with EVgo to install a… Read more »

Bill, I just checked Chevrolet dot com, and there are 23 Volts within 25 miles of downtown Cleveland. Lally has 2, Ganley has 4 at one dealer branch and 2 at the other, O’brien has 6 and Serpentini has 2 more.
Cars dot com has more but the extras are dealers advertizing other dealers inventory to draw people in.
The cars are out there, the only question is how good of a deal are they willing to make.

Yes, an electrician pun.

Okay, the factory has been spitting out Bolts for the last two and a half days. By my count that’s more than a hundred Bolts so far, double the number that already existed and twice the number of Tuckers that were ever built. My question is where are these cars now or where are they in route to?

Are these cars on trucks and trains or are they just sitting in the factory parking lot? I assume that all these early cars are factory deliveries and won’t be making it to dealer lots. When are we going to hear about people taking delivery?

Once people start taking delivery it shouldn’t be long before we start getting our first in depth test ride reports. Hopefully our friends at insideevs.com will keep us up to date. I’m looking forward to hearing first impressions.

Delivery usually takes 2 to 4 weeks but with a brand new car, add 2 to 3 additional weeks for QC inspections. CA may get some in the first week of December, but maybe not until the 2nd week in any numbers.

So it sounds like all those new Bolts are just sitting around collecting dust in the factory parking lot right now.

I don’t think that is what is happening. People are checking fit and finish, looking at the paint quality and driving them to see if they perform right. Could the checks be done faster in a perfect world? Yeah.

Is it better that a company like Chevrolet finally take the time to emphasize build quality, does so? Yeah. The Volt, the ELR and the Spark EV have all had very good to pretty good quality control and build quality. I think most people are willing to wait a week or two for the Bolt to be as well built as a Volt.

SparkEV-Fiat500-Leased - M3 Reserved - Bolt- TBD

Vs Tesla likes to use their customer base as Beta testers.

GM has the luxury of time on this. Their business model isn’t dependent on this one single car. Also, there simply isn’t another car with 200+ range <$35,000 after Fed car credit within 1+ years.

Let's see what year one production yields will be with the Bolt and compare that with year one M3 — when it comes out.

I can’t remember ever following so closely or being so excited about a vehicle roll out. I think the Bolt has the potential of revolutionizing the automotive industry more than any car has done in the last hundred years. I can’t help but compare the Bolt to the Ford Model T.

The Model T wasn’t the most exciting car on the road but it did revolutionized the auto industry. The Model T also was not the most exciting car available but it met the right need, at the right time and at the right price. By the time the Model T ended its twelve year production run over two million Model Ts had been sold and the auto industry had been changed forever.

I don’t know if sales of the Bolt will come anywhere near sales of the Model T. Even if the demand is there, there is already significant competition and automotive manufacturers aren’t near as slow to respond as they were in the early 1900s. But for me the Bolt represents a major milestone on the road to a sustainable future and that’s a road I’ve been trying to build all my life.

I cited the Model T production numbers off the top of my head and I got them wrong. The Ford Model T had an eighteen year production run and Ford sold almost 15 million of them. In 1923 over two million Model Ts were sold.

There are some similarities and some differences, between the Bolt and the Model T.

The initiating market conditions are similar. In the early 1900s very few people owned automobiles and in the early 2000s very few people own electric automobiles. Only time will tell if the Bolt fills the need in the early 2000s as well as the Model T filled the need in the early 1900s.

I think the price being relatively low and the high number of miles it can go, quite long, on a single charge makes it unique.
In that sense I find a great similarity with early Model T models which were relatively expensive as compared to later versions, but were in essence the only game in town.

Then a temporal divergence occurs over the next few years as competition in the space increases, and then they (Model T/Bolt) become less similar in sales trajectory.
In addition the Bolt will not get markedly cheaper in the coming decade, as the Model T did. Still though, uneasy is the head that wears the crown, they are the king in that space for the time being.

I might also mention that the Model T was not just one body style. There were at least fifteen different bodies on the Model T including option variants. For the Bolt to compete on numbers with the Model T then GM is going to have to develop variants like Toyota did with the Prius.

I think so. It would be wise of them to develop an entire line. For one cars are losing sales momentum, and this, the Bolt, could spark that space and make it look more appealing.

I’m with you! I am also very excited about the Bolt. 🙂

I expect the Model 3 to be excellent as well… but the Bolt appeals more to me personally.

If you substitute Tesla Model 3 for your remark about revolutionizing the auto industry like the Ford Model T did you might have a chance.

In other words the Model 3 has a chance of really revolutionizing the industry because of both its EV tech and its Autonomous tech.

Unfortunately the otherwise excellent Bolt just doesn’t have the same level of appeal and I also fear GM only wants to sell it in limited numbers (not to mention its stealerships) to gain CARB credits and show Tesla it too can make a long-range EV.

Is the Model 3 in production? No! Is the Bolt in production? Yes?

This is exactly what I meant about the Model T not being the most exciting car on the market. Tesla is going to price the Model 3 out of the high volume low end market and is only going to be able to sell the Model 3 as a BMW alternative. Tesla missed the boat with the Model 3 by at least a year and is going to have to play catch up just to get a foot hold.

Once again, Get Real is carpet bombing yet another Bolt article with nothing but FUD, throwing shade on the Bolt. He must be short selling GM stock and/or a paid shill for Tesla.

Carpet bombing with flowers, praise for the Bolt, how awful of him. Raining down daffodils, and mums on the Bolts good points.
The Fiend!

Well, since GM produces several million car sales a year in the US, and only talks about selling 30,000 Bolts a year, there’s no way that the Bolt’s success or failure is going to make much money for a short.

Here come the uglies

That’s a remarkably self aware post.

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I hope all the Bolts will be CARB states until demand is reached 🙂

Makes logistical and economic sense for GM too.

9/hour. Sounds like outpacing the X production already at startup.

Like comparing a Warhol to a Rembrandt.

Yay!

My Bolt will be produced the week of 11/28.

I can only guess it will be delivered the third week of December.

I would be glad to share my first impressions if someone doesn’t beat me to it.

I personally prefer this car to the Tesla M3, but I would also consider getting a Tesla for the second car if my finances would allow it.

The hatchback for carrying more/larger stuff and the supercharging vehicle for longer trips!

The best part is that my Bolt will be fusion powered.

I have been waiting for a car like this for a very long time.

Fusion powered? Do you mean fission powered, or is there a recent breakthrough at the Hadron Collider that I’m unaware of? 😉

Hope they ramp up by November end and sell at least 2,000 units in 2016-12.

I guess Steve is working from home today.