ChargePoint Releases Tesla Model 3 Charging Primer, Claims 80% Of Tesla ChargePoint Charges Have Been Free

2 months ago by Mark Kane 33

Tesla Model 3 Charging Details Revealed: What They Mean for You – ChargePoint

We are still waiting on some specific Tesla Model 3 charging details, as well as a few other specifications (including battery capacity), but ChargePoint tries to educate new owners, and naturally encourages them to use its 39,900-point strong network.

ChargePoint is often free or even cheaper than charging at home: the average Tesla charging session on ChargePoint costs just $1, and 80% of Tesla charging on ChargePoint has been free.

The Model 3, as with Model S and Model X, will have full access to Tesla’s Supercharging network, but the service is more designed for long distance travel, and in the case of the Model 3, will be pay option to some degree.

It’s still an open question whether Tesla will offer some free package, like 400 kWh annual limit in the S & X (again, when Tesla isn’t giving away lifetime charging as a sales promotion).

At some go-to places (hotels), some Model 3 owners will also find Tesla destination charging stations.

However, there is also plenty of other non-Tesla charging options – at home, work or public charging – AC (with J1772 adapter) and DC (with CHAdeMO adapter).

ChargePoint estimates that the Model 3 will be able to add 25 miles of range every hour of public AC Level 2 charging. (The total range of Model 3 is 310 miles in the “Long Range” version, and 220 miles in the base set-up).

An interesting state given by the charging provider, is the cost of public charging through ChargePoint – notably that up to 80% of the Tesla charges to data have been free, while the average cost for pay stations was $1 per session.

“Charging at home costs about half as much as filling up with gas. Using ChargePoint is often free or even cheaper than charging at home: the average Tesla charging session on ChargePoint costs just $1, and 80% of Tesla charging on ChargePoint has been free. Charging around town is affordable because the various types of business owners who install ChargePoint stations want to attract customers: restaurants want diners, stores want shoppers, companies want happy employees and apartments want loyal residents.”

source: ChargePoint

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33 responses to "ChargePoint Releases Tesla Model 3 Charging Primer, Claims 80% Of Tesla ChargePoint Charges Have Been Free"

  1. Maaz Jilani says:

    Umm I’ve never encountered a paid chargepoint station to be less than charging at home. Home is $0.11 a kWh or $0.35 during peak times. The cheapest I’ve seen a paid chargepoint is $0.35, otherwise it’s always $0.50 a kWh.

    1. jim stack says:

      In our Greater Phoenix area there are about 60 free stations out of 500 in the area. Most of the free ones are Charge Points that also work the best and are most reliable.

      Plugshare has a filter for just free, or even Fast chargers etc. Very handy. I would welcome pay charging if we have good standards. Prices are all over the place and in our state they charge by the minutes. slower PHEV cost most since they are slowest.

      L2 is fine for charging while you eat, watch a moving and shop. They pay with more customers.

  2. kent beuchert says:

    Why would anyone want to charge at a Level 2 station? Those things are as obsolete as Beta Maxes.

    1. DJ says:

      Because there are some at the place I swim at. 2 hours is enough for quite a bit of mileage…

    2. Tech01x says:

      Level 2 charging is very important for any place that EVs are parked for long periods of time. It is better to deploy many more L2’s than L3’s for destination charging.

    3. unlucky says:

      Huh, what?

      Never stayed at a hotel overnight?

    4. KumarP says:

      I use level 2 chargers whenever they are available at the place I park. All those miles add up.

    5. Mark.ca says:

      Some evs won’t take more than L2…don’t forget, we are still in early stages of ev adoption.

    6. Steven says:

      Betamax was one word.

      Sorry, the grumpy old man in me just had to point that out.

    7. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      “Day trip” destinations.

      Stadiums.
      Amusement parks.
      Concerts.
      Restaurants. (We live in that kind of place.)
      Airports. (Think parking, waiting, picking people up.)
      Malls.
      Tourist spot.
      Workplace.

      Any time you’re driving beyond range and parked for a significant amount of time, being plugged in on Level 2 (or even level 1) will save you time at a fast charger, _especially_ if you can get enough to avoid a stop.

      Think about it. Say:
      DCFC gives you 5 miles per _minute_.
      Level 2 gives you 15 miles per hours
      (I’m simplifying and being conservative on the benefits).

      So, if you were parked at a concert on level 2 for 4 hours you’ve got yourself 60 miles and saved yourself 12 minutes of DCFCing, and you might be able to skip DCFC entirely or pay less at a DCFC, or pick a more appropriate DCFC.

      The value of Level 2 destination charging is the same as charging at home: you can spend 20 seconds plugging/unplugging where you’re parked anyway, and save time at a dedicated filling station.

      The problem is cost. The chargers themselves are cheaper than DCFC , but due to lower power the overheads are divided over fewer kWh, which translate into fewer miles.

      The key to it is keeping the overheads down. That’s why Tesla’s destination charging program is so sensible: cheap, simple chargers, with access managed by the hosting business. (Similarly, they’ve made Supercharging an amenity hosted by a business and have access managed at the car level to simplify them.)

      These dedicated charging companies have really come at it from the wrong angle: they just need to focus on making a cheap, reliable charger.

    8. JeremyK says:

      Not obsolete at all. Perfectly acceptable for destination charging or charging at home.

      Would you rather have 10 L2 chargers at a hotel or 1 high speed charger?

  3. hpver says:

    Typical PR garbage. They’re bending the truth at best, and that’s putting it kindly.

    I’ve never seen a free ChargePoint station. The ones I use occasionally are usually 30 cents per KwH. On rare occasions 20 cents. Their fast chargers are usually $6 per hour plus a per-KwH fee. Not cheap at all.

    At home I can charge for about 11 cents per KwH.

    1. EVShopper says:

      Agreed.

      1. Jay Cole says:

        Just my opinion here, not speaking at all for InsideEVs, I find that when people find a “free” charger, they use it more. A lot more.

        So a “free” CP station (as rare as they may be) might be doing 10x+ more sessions than a normal one.

        1. DJ says:

          Precisely. I think I still have that $25 credit they auth on your card before you can even use a free one on my account 😀

          1. Jay Cole says:

            Yupper,

            I frequent the heck out of a station that is both free and in a prime spot close to my favorite place to eat, (=

            1. Bill Howland says:

              When I use a ChargePoint – (around here they are only L2) they’ll add (in a bolt) 24 miles per hour @ 4 miles/kwh and 30 miles per hour @ 5 miles/kwh.

              Since the ‘3’ has 32 ampere capability, it will fully utilize the CP, so 25 miles seems not unreasonable.

              In National Grid areas, the ones they have put in are free to use for the customer.

              Although Spanish owned New-York State Electric and Gas/Rochester Gas & Electric (same parent company) does not have such a generous program, about 1/2 of the public wallboxes are also free.

              So CP saying the average charge price is a buck is probably accurate, yet not too helpful for any given ev driver.

    2. DJ says:

      I have well over 1,000 kWh worth of free L2 charging thanks to the one I usually use.

      I would agree that it’s kind of BS. They’re trying to say essentially that as 80% of the charging was free it’s cheaper than charging at home, which while true is really a meaningless statistic.

      If you just want to see free Chargepoint stations just set the filter on the app to only show free ones. Quite a few by me.

    3. unlucky says:

      They’re bending the truth a little, but not a lot. It was insideevs to used the word “public”, not ChargePoint.

      Virtually every ChargePoint charger I see around me is “free”. Some are free because they are in parking garages you pay to park in anyway. Some are free because they are restricted to only people who work for the company who installed the charger.

      Well over 90% of my ChargePoint sessions are free, and it’s true of virtually everyone else in my area. Because people are using them at work. Home charging makes up well over 90% of my charging. But when I do charge away from home on a CP charger it is virtually always on a free charger. In fact I’ve only ever paid a CP station twice, once on a 50kW DCFC and once when I simply had to charge at a public spot in a park because I wouldn’t be able to get home from there (in my Leaf).

    4. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

      I charge for free in our parking lot every day at work.

      Other parking garages have free charging and these parking garages are pay as you park.

    5. John in AA says:

      “I’ve never seen a free ChargePoint station.”

      I, on the other hand, can’t remember ever having seen a for-fee one, although I’ve charged at a decent number of free ones. Maybe it’s regional or something.

    6. JeremyK says:

      I’ve seen/used plenty here in MI. Might be regional differences.

  4. Mike I. says:

    Tesla drivers generally have such large batteries that they don’t NEED to charge on ChargePoint L2 stations. Therefore, they only plug in to those stations when they’re free or really needed. That is what is skewing the statistic “80% of Tesla charging has been free”.

    I am exactly like that with my RAV4 EV. The only two public L2 sessions I did were far away from home. One was free and near my overnight destination and the other was a little boost to have some additional cushion to make it back home. That paid charging got me free parking and the cost was less than the nearby paid parking.

  5. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

    All the open FREE L2 locations will always be occupied. I don’t even bother with those as it’s a lottery chance you’d be able to get one.

    Free open charging ruins the experience.

    1. Michael Will says:

      Not around where I live… I know a few free chargepoint stations and use them every now and then, they are less often occupied than the for pay stations in more central places.

      I also totally overpay by using their $0.54/kWh rate in a parking garage close to my work, with a shouldershrugg that it averages out and that I am grateful to have chargepoint as an option, and so don’t mind funding them through that.

      Using the charger is mostly necessary for our VW eGolf with its 80-mile range, not so much on the tesla with its 250 mile range that I can just fill up at home over night, and if I go on road trips I’d rather use the faster supercharger anyways.

      1. Dan says:

        Do you realize that $.54/kwh is the same as paying about $17/gal. for gasoline thermally or about $7/gallon taking into account the relative efficiency of converting stored energy to work for fuel and heat engine vs. battery electricity and an electric motor.

        I see people charging at Ikea where they pay $.59/kwh. Innumeracy is a real problem and all too common among electric car drivers.

        1. Bill Howland says:

          Due to his VW’s tiny battery, what choice does he have? $7/ gallon equivalent may be a bit pricey, but it beats being stranded.

  6. ModernMarvelFan says:

    This just shows that “free charging” sucks.

    We should get rid of all free charging except for those business who want to draw in customers with free charging (like Tesla, Restaurant, shopping malls)…

  7. LOL says:

    At this pace of EV progress it will take more than 200 years for electric transition. What’s needed is a wireless charging parking space with 1,000 parking lots enabling seamless handsfree charging. That is the only cure to this slow EV adoption. Vast majority of ICE owners won’t make a switch to EVs until they have ultimate convenience of public wireless charging. You have no deal until this gains traction.

  8. Empire State says:

    The shape of the distribution of charge customer proportions and price paid is probably much less interesting between the $0 and $1, which was teased out of the data for inclusion here, than is the shape of the distribution between $1 and $10 or above.
    Better writing may have investigated this relationship a bit while in contact with Chargepoint, as Jay Cole seems to start to do in the comments.
    As a retail or other public-facing venture who might be prompted to have Chargepoint networked equipment installed, I’d be more interested in the charging frequency histogram at sessions with prices above $0.00 and closer to my cost of providing them than I would be interested this info provided to expected new Tesla drivers. Providing RFID cards and/or apps are not significant barriers to entry, and Chargepoint had better demonstrate some value they add here. A retailer’s website can tell me in-store inventory levels, and they sure as heck could tell me as much about their outdoor charging equipment status as Chargepoint can.

  9. Bill Howland says:

    Just reading peoples’ comments, it seems that in locales with Confiscatory Electric rates, all the ‘free’ docking stations are TOTALLY PLUGGED UP.

    Meanwhile in places with reasonable electricity rates (near me for instance), the ‘free’ docking stations are rarely used, mostly by out of towners, since it is just as easy to charge at home, since the added cost is immaterial.

    Of course in my area, the very few ‘for charge’ stations are absolutely never used, except in an emergency.

  10. Teslas camp out at free chargers, making them not available to cars that actually need to charge. They are attracted to them like flys to poop. Free charging is the bane of the EV world.

  11. Goh says:

    Where I live the few free stations left are now monopolized by Volts, Kias or a guy on a hat driving a 2012 Leaf that shows up every day at 7am to get it charged.

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