CHAdeMO Reached 3,000 Charger Milestone In Europe

MAR 28 2016 BY MARK KANE 24

Nissan LEAF and CHAdeMO plug

Nissan LEAF and CHAdeMO plug

On March 23, the CHAdeMO Association announced that the 3,000 charger milestone had been reached in Europe.

“Operators are busy adding new chargers as we speak

In total (as of press), there are now 3,028 points (most typically with an output of 20-50 kW), which is 28% of total 10,708 reported worldwide.

For some prospective on growth, four months ago it was 2,755.

In the case of Europe, a big, but unknown part of this number, are multi-standard chargers (which feature both CHAdeMO & CCS Combo).

“The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 10708.
— (Japan 5960 Europe 3028 USA 1612 Others 108) last update 2016.03.23”

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Damm, 600 in Uk and 500 in France is massive. Also other countries are rising like Norway, Germany and Netherlands and Sweden.

CCS seems to be on the up see the post on EV Sales for more details.

Yeah, CCS has been chosen by all the European manufacturers, so new fast chargers will support it. But if the marginal cost of adding chademo is low, that might be supported also.

Lots and lots of Type 2 flexi chargers will likely also be added curbside and in parking lots.

Yes, with CHAdeMO still in the lead in every major market (Japan, North America, Europe), “they might support it”.

But… but… there are fourteen hydrogen pumps!!! FOURTEEEEEEEN

Infrastructure is rapidly developing, where is your car, Nissan? You complained (rightly) about infrastructure, now it’s on it’s way but we’re still missing your car!

The DCFC station count is a good marker for total installed ev infrastructure, looking at plugshare England in particular looks pretty well serviced with public infrastructure.

Total EV sales have been above 1% market share for the last 4 months I can only see that growing from here. Nissan need to pull their finger out or risk being squeezed out by other players or being left at relatively small scale while others grow to fill the need.

Nissan will come. They are focusing on making cheap EVs for China and India. A lot of people there don’t have a car and are less prone to imagine they “need” hundreds of miles of range, given their zero mile range now!

It’s the right priority, for Nissan as a car company, and for us who wish to make transportation more energy efficient and less CO2-intensive. If they succeed, global emissions will fall much more than it Nissan prioritized making cars you and I want to drive (I drive a Leaf today, and can’t wait for Bolt and Model 3).

I haven’t seen anything about _specific_ near-term plans by Nissan for cheap EVs for China/India.

If you’re referring to Ghosn’s comments in the NY Auto Show, he just made general comments, and fairly obvious ones, on what’s needed for those markets.
Nothing about timing, nothing about what Nissan is concentrating on currently, and why it seems to be dropping the ball on the LEAF.

Missing which car… I use these CHAdeMO DC Quick Chargers alot in my existing… been for sale for over 5 years now.. millions of 100% electric miles… Sure… will be nice when 150 to 200 mile economy EVs arrive… but… really… very useful EVs are already here. Not sure… reset your trip odometer every day for a week… see how many miles per day you actually drive… more often than not you can easily make it with under 100 mile EV. Especially when you can use CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers to recharge to 80 to 90% in 20 to 30 minutes.

I wonder which category Canada falls into for total plug count? We are getting close to 20 in each of BC and QC, with several more in ON. So we are approaching half of that “other” category of 108.

For Canada a look on plugshare give those numbers per province:
Manitoba : 1
British Colombia : 22+1 to come
Ontario : 3
Québec : 34 +2 to come

It’s mabe not exact but gives a good picture.

Québec lead the way, and 20 more are planned for 2016. All are double conectors (chademo and sae combo) almost all are made in Québec. We do not just speak french, we go electric (99% hydro and wind).

And GM picks CCS for it’s DCFC charging standard…

CHAdeMO got the headstart, and there’s no indication CCS is making headway against CHAdeMO. It’s Betamax vs. VHS all over again.

Home-only charging for EVs is going to limit their uptake by regular consumers – there is no doubt. As DCFCs proliferate like gas stations did in the early 20th century, consumer uptake follows.

Now what if there were two diameters of gas pump nozzle, and nobody could decide which one was best, so different manufacturers used different ones? It’s divide and conquer. Oil companies must love this! GM? BMW? Put CHAdeMO on your cars – and allay the battle of the plug. CCS? YOU LOST! OK?!

I don’t see one reason why we have to argue which plug is best. Once CHAdeMO got out of the gate and has thousands of locations worldwide, there’s no reason to re-invent the fast=charge wheel.

Actually, Superchargers should dominate – but one carmaker building them out is not enough. Since human pride is at stake – nobody is going to let Tesla decide which charger format is THE ONE, so it looks like at best it’s Supercharger or CHAdeMO – or adaptors for all.

Given that there are multiple charging standards I don’t see why charge ports aren’t replaceable?! CCS and CHAdeMO does pretty much the same thing, it’s just the physical plug format and the handshake protocol that differs. It should be an easy thing to create a charge port that could be swapped out for another, at least at a service station if not by the car owner.

Are you kidding? Did you not see the article last week about Hyundai adopting CCS? That explains why sister comapny Kia was installing only dual-standard DCFC stations at their dealers – they were anticipating a switch to CCS in the future. Now that means Nissan and Mitsubishi are basically alone.

I’m all for continued installation of dual-standard stations, as there are tons of Chademo cars out there now that deserve to be included in the expanding infrastructure, especially given that dual-standard stations don’t add that much cost. But there are no significant new EVs on the horizon that are expected to adopt Chademo aside from next gen Leaf, and even that might even include CCS at this point. Model 3 may even support CCS, maybe we’ll see this week.

All of this is for EU and NA markets of course, Chademo is safe in Japan.

Yes, It wouldn’t be a surprise at all if european version of Model 3 has CCS port. After all they already have the type 2 connector, which is CCS sans DC pins.

For american version it’s less likely as they have completely different plug now, but not impossible. It will come eventually, but not now.

I think there is no question whether or not Tesla will join other manufacturers behind CCS. The only real question is when.

Leaf second generation will decide it which plug it will use in Europe and US. With a global launch mid 2017 and three factories Bolt will be NO competition.
Compliance car GM!
– no battery options
– high base price form 37.500 $
– Europe to expensive because tax & ship
– so its for US or? As European looking selling numbers from US GM is just stupid, good sellers in US are sedans, size like Malibu or Sentra and they build a mini van.
31 we see how bestseller for US should look, Model 3 will be a big sedan.
Leaf is more priority for Japan and Europe, hatchback like Golf, bit to small for US but even better than Bolt.

The most revolutionary new EV since the original Leaf is a compliance car? Really? It’s really funny how some people are utterly unable to look beyond the badge and at the car itself. Had Tesla announced this back in 2015 – when Chevy did – and pulled through on time, as Chevy looks like they will, you’d have been lauding the car as a world changing thing, the Second Coming of Musk.

Chevy has in fact made everyone else play catch up. And contributed to a faster switch to EVs. None of it says anything about who will rule in the new world order, because until at least 2025 EVs will be only a small part of the overall market. But it definitely helps bring that new world order about more quickly.

When you see the Leaf II in January 2017 then you will know what a revolutionary EV look like
– Vehicle to Grid, key of a renewable future
– Wirless charging 7 kW
– DC up to 100 kW , Bolt slow charge
– drag coefficient under 0,24
– nor mirrors in Japan version
– more affordable with different battery sizes
– Piloted Drive
– maybe a-pilar made of carbon fibre
And finally the batteries will be made in every market, Sunderland, Smyrna and Japan in Nissans own factory, giving some thousand jobs in the target markets where you can be proud and not silly supplied from Korea.
Nissan has a vision of a EV future, GM nothing except big sounds.

You say it’s Betamax vs VHS all over again, then proceed to show why it’s the opposite. Betamax was technically superior to VHS but bulky and costly. CCS is technically superior to CHAdeMO. Arguing that it doesn’t matter which is better, only which is first is silly. There’s a huge installed base of petrol stations out there – why don’t we just use those? Because EVs are better.

As far as number of chargers are concerned, Chademo is MUCH better. But why is CCS better? Let me count the ways.

First for consumers, I’ve never encountered any CCS that wipe out the AM radio while Chademo chargers often do. Though I can’t prove it, I suspect it’d due to Chademo using CAN at 1 Mbps vs CCS homeplug (GreenPHY) at 10 Mbps.

Second for manufacturers, CCS only need one hole about the size of a gas filler. Manufacturers making body panels that serve both gas and EV would benefit (more profit) from not having different or secondary cutout.

Third, supposedly, there are already 100kW CCS chargers deployed in Europe. AFAIK, Chademo is still 50kW with 62.5kW max in spec.

Fourth, more manufacturers support it. So far, it’s Nissan, Mitsubishi, Kia, vs GM, VW, BMW, Hyundai. Going forward, Ford, Audi, maybe even Chrysler may join the CCS camp.

Fifth, and minor point, CCS with single handle / port is similar to Tesla’s single port. CCS’s homeplug is also similar to Tesla’s protocol. They will probably never be interchangeable, and Tesla’s solution is far more elegant. But if you liked Tesla plug form, you should prefer CCS form over Chademo.

CCS is not that far behind: there is already 2000 of them available in Europe and in some countries like Germany or Sweden, CCS is even ahead of CHAdeMO:

I am hopeful that Nissan will update their J1772 sockets they will go ahead and add the CCS standard. Seems like it shouldn’t be hard for a vehicle that is already set up for CHAdeMO… and why isn’t that a default feature? I would bet that 6.6Kw AC and CHAdeMO could easily be absorbed into costs… sure makes the car more versatile.

Last week I helped a local business owner apply for a new quick charging station from Evgo.