Canadian Chevy Bolt Orders Facing Delays Up To 12 Months

Chevy Bolt EV

MAY 18 2018 BY WADE MALONE 92

A GM Canada spokeswoman confirmed that there is a waiting list for buyers.

Chevrolet Bolt buyers in Canada have already been facing long wait times and the situation has only gotten worse. Many Toronto-area dealerships are estimating 8 to 12 months for delivery on the popular all electric hatchback.

“There is currently a waiting list for the Bolt in Canada.” GM representative Amanda Michalik said in a recent statement. “This is not uncommon with launch products, particularly such unique game changers like the Bolt EV. We have also seen an increase in demand for the popular Volt.”

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Last year, Chevrolet was the number one seller of plug-in vehicles in Canada with over 2,100 Bolt EVs and 4,300 Volts making their way to owners. So far the Volt remains a top seller in the country for 2018 and the supply situation is good.

Unfortunately, Bolt buyers in Canada will need to have more patience. Current high demand will continue to outweigh supply thanks to generous EV incentives available in many provinces. A recent Canadian recall of the Bolt’s front windshield wipers has also not helped the inventory situation.

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There are currently less than two dozen Bolt EV’s available for sale in the country. At the moment, GM representatives are unable to say when the supply issues will be resolved. But it is unlikely to improve significantly until GM increases production later this year.

GM is up against strong competition in Canada thanks to the long-awaited arrival of Tesla’s Model 3 and increased plug-in options from traditional automakers. If the inventory issues are not resolved soon, many more hopeful Bolt buyers will be forced to move on to other popular plug-in vehicles such as the Volt, Prius Prime, and Nissan Leaf.

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They are producing less Bolts per month than Tesla is producing Model 3’s in a week. And they already have production limits? What’s up with these experienced auto manufacturers? Weren’t they supposed to easily out-produce that little startup from Silicon Valley?

GM never planned to produce it, the Bolt, in large numbers. It’s only being sold in the U.S. and Canada.
Also with GM nearing the 200k limit, which they want raised, there is little incentive to increase production of a vehicle that loses money.
No refresh for 7 years, kind of lame and indicative of their view of the Bolt.

Too bad. The bolt is more practical and near as efficient as the 3. I’d sooner buy one than a tesla.

So, you’re saying GM designed the car to be a compliance car, that requires a government incentive. Where as Tesla did not.
Musk called it: 30,000 car limit.
Otherwise, those Canadian orders would have been filled in 30 days.

How many times are we going to go over this? It is not a compliance car, or they would be doing what Honda, Toyota, etc. have done and only selling in California, etc. The numbers are higher than 30,000.

They’ve been undersupplied in Canada since day 1 because they are diverting them to markets where they make more money off them. They underpriced it up here compared to the US.

Everything is a compliance car that is not produced according to customer demand.

GM is artificially limiting the supply of the Bolt, so it is a compliance car. It is also limited to North America.

I am even unsure about the Leaf which sells in way bigger numbers than the Bolt.

Tesla seems to be the only honest attempt at a mainstream electric car.

If Nissan significantly expands production in 2018, maybe they can be considered serious too.

“Everything is a compliance car that is not produced according to customer demand.”

Model 3 is a compliance car since it isn’t fulfilling demand right now. They are “trying” but it isn’t.

If you order a $37K Bolt EV and $35K Model 3 today in Canada, which one are you going to get first? The ONLY way that you “may” get Model 3 first if you already own a Model S/X/Roadster and you are willing to have one of those LR version with full options.

You are trying to re-define the term “compliance car” to the point of being meaningless. Sadly, you’re not the only one. 🙁

And if you think Nissan isn’t building the Leaf to meet demand, then your understanding of the subject is so limited that you shouldn’t be posting about it. Read and learn at least something about a subject before putting your oar in.

If Nissan wasn’t dedicated to building as many Leafs as the market will bear, then they wouldn’t have built new auto assembly plants in the UK and in Tennessee to build more of them.

The people producing European market Leafs at Nissan’s Sunderland plant (in NE England) are hoping Nissan want to sell Leafs, because if they do not want to, the workers’ jobs are going and the plant closing, because their diesel sales are totally down the toilet in Europe. Leafs, particularly the 60kW with proper battery management, are their best and, realistically, only hope for Sunderland (the plant and the city).

Bolts have never, and will never, be sold in Britain or any RHD market, and the “European” Bolt, the Ampera-E, has been pretty much withdrawn from the market since PSA Group bought Opel/Vauxhall brand from GM. So the shortage in Canada really reflects that US sales are their focus, and even then, only up to a certain number. If they lose even one sale of a V8 (or V10) truck, or an SUV the size of a small English county, to a loss making electric car they will have failed, in their book.

I’m going to the Canadian Car Club meeting tonight in Hamilton, Ontario so I’ll find out more precise details then. But I don’t understand GM’s practice of having an Extremely Low priced, optioned BOLT ev in Canada – priced far less than the equivalent car in the states, yet they (unlike the magpies here who say they don’t want to sell them in the states) obviously don’t want to sell them in Canada at the price they’ve set!!!! Sounds like there is an obvious solution.

Why needlessly piss off Canadians?

“Why needlessly piss off Canadians?”

Wait, what? I thought you were Canadian. Needlessly pissing off Canadians is what business *does* up here. Likely because we’re just too nice.

It is also sold to Korea.

In small numbers. Which are already sold out, for the year.

GM already announced that they’re sending 5000 to SK this year instead of something like 400 last year.

That’s good. Are they actually going to increase production? Or are they just gonna rob Peter (the U.S. market) to pay Paul (the S. Korean market)?

The no refresh for seven years is not official. That was a estimate from a forecast company. But vehicle models on average have 6-7 year lifespans.

True enough. Though advances in battery chemistry will probably dictate a shorter life for ev models.

It’s not even unofficial. It’s just a very badly informed guess by “market forecaster” who ought to lose his job.

People misunderstand the Bolt. As GM has already hinted, its future is more as a robotaxi than a consumer vehicle. Sure, they’re happy to sell them in the interim, but they don’t want to get stuck with an assembly line for 500k of them a year only to have demand fall off a cliff three years in because robotaxis kill the sale of individual cars, especially those in the Bolt’s market segment.

Isn’t the model S now 6 years old looking the same? That isn’t lame?

The Model S is about as far away from “lame” as it’s possible to get!

The Model S has gotten many, many upgrades in those six years. And continues to get upgrades on a monthly if not weekly basis!

Kudos to Tesla for eschewing the sorts of meaningless style changes that other auto makers use to ensure limited production runs and high costs for replacement parts, and to ensure every model year’s cars are seen as “newer” than the last.

The last time we saw an auto maker willing to buck that trend was Volkswagen, with the classic Beetle. Rejecting meaningless style changes kept the Beetle timeless, and in production for decades; far longer than most car models! Hopefully Tesla will have the same success with the Model S.

There have been very Subtle changes made to Model S through the years .

” It’s only being sold in the U.S. and Canada.”

You forgot S. Korea.

“No refresh for 7 years, kind of lame and indicative of their view of the Bolt.”

BS. Bolt was introduced in 2017. 7 years would be 2024. You don’t know that 7 years is actually typical car platform/model refresh.

LEAF didn’t get refreshed for 7 years either…

It did. They increased the range from 83 to 107 miles.

Mr. Chanos is apparently shorting the wrong company.
Funny, how the arguments against Tesla work much better on the ICE producers.

Tesla doesn’t have a competitor for the Bolt. Or at least won’t for another 2 years. They have a competitor for the Audi A4 or BMW 5 series. Their Model 3s cars are almost $60,000 Canadian, firmly in the luxury class. Even their fabled $35000 US Model 3 that will someday arrive will be in the luxury pricing class. No competitor for the Bolt, and certainly not for the Leaf.

My Bolt LT in Ontario, without the government incentive was close to $55,000 including the safety option. The premier is probably another couple of thousand more. My point is that if given the option to buy the low range Tesla M3, Bolt sales would probably struggle, but like you said there is some time before that could happen

Model 3 cost $45K starting for the $35K (US) version in Canada… So, current long range version will cost north of $65K in Canada.

Gosh, how terrible for Tesla to deliver a car aimed to compete with the Audi A4 and the BMW 3-series… just as they said they would.. How terrible that it doesn’t compete with the much cheaper (in every way) Bolt EV!
/s

Battery supply. The Orion plant where the Bolt is made has averaged around 200,000 cars per year over the last 30 something years. IMO, the only think holding the Bolt back is battery supply.

Maybe that’s why they are building, with LG Chem,, a battery plant nearby..

GM certainly is going to have to get a much larger supply of batteries if it wants to compete with Tesla’s volume of sales. I don’t see any indication that GM has any interest in doing so, but as the EV revolution progresses, hopefully that will change. GM may be left holding the bag, though, as Volkswagen (and hopefully other legacy auto makers) moves to ensure a large supply of batteries. The way its’ going now, GM will be left falling farther and farther behind, dependent on what LG Chem is willing to sell them.

I thought it was a huge short sighted mistake for GM to spend $5 billion on stock buy backs, instead of building a factory for batteries. Really shows their intentions me thinks.

https://www.gm.com/investors/stocks/stock-repurchase-program.html

With battery technology changing probably in a few years, that’s probably really wise decision on GM’a part.

Lac of Demand

Battery supply is low because either GM refused to commit a big enough contract for LG to justify building a plant, or LG offered low pricing for a limited quantity only.

This isn’t a case of unexpected demand causing a battery shortage. It’s a case of planned supply being low.

Their production is limited to the ratio of Bolt/Sonic they can produce, and the Sonic has seen dwindling demand. They’ve already retooled the line once to increase the ratio of Bolts to Sonics, and it sounds like they’ll be doing it again. #Facts

The Sonic? I thought that was going out of production. I guess last Summer that was the excuse for shutting down the line for 3 weeks to “retool” the line.
(Reuters) – General Motors Co (GM.N) will stop production of its subcompact Chevrolet Sonic by as early as this year, the Wall Street Journal reported April 4th 2018

Despite reports, the Sonic has been confirmed by GM to survive for the foreseeable future. The 2019 Sonic has already been detailed by Chevrolet – it will get a new base engine and new color options. But expect production to be lower than it has been in previous years.

LITTLE CANADIAN DEMAND , Hence Slow Production ..

My theory is: Low battery supplies, and no desire to sell much in Canada because they priced it more favourably here than in the US once the currency conversion etc. is taken into account.

It’s a shame. I like the GM EV tech a lot. They’re quality. Love my Volt. Almost got a Bolt, but needed more trunk space.

Bingo. 12 month production delays from an experienced automotive manufacturer is indicative of problems not associated with making the cars. Supply of batteries? Profit and loss (don’t forget, they were seeing an initial loss of $9,000 per vehicle before ZEV credits)? Artificially keeping adoption low so they can sell more gasser SUVs?

What we aren’t seeing out of GM is this elusive EV roadmap. What we are hearing about is an electrified vehicle line-up. That means hybrids. On the bright side, they aren’t Mitsubishi or Mazda, who have no interest in an EV.

Until GM puts out an all-electric Cadillac Escalade or Chevrolet Suburban, they are just not serious about the subject. They are cautious, possibly reluctant, and definitely not fiscally motivated. When Tesla hits their profitability stride, you’ll see some serious scrambling.

They don’t have bottomless risk-friendly investor pockets like Tesla, is what it is. As a public corporation, they have to be responsible to their investors. They’re being smarter than all of the other major manufacturers in developing a platform and proving it out and getting a reputation. But they literally can’t do what Tesla is doing, because that risk would be unacceptable to all involved: their board, their investors, and their employees that rely on them.

Whatever you think… Tesla could go out of business next year or the year after. They are taking a huge gamble. Their investors are willing to take that risk. GM’s won’t and can’t.

GM has bankrupted itself several times through incompetence (no other brand was eating it’s lunch) so why not take the risk of failure trying to be part of the future?
Oh, and Telsa has the same restrictions as a publicly traded company, so that point is moot.

Tesla has entirely different kinds of investors. Who are hoping to make it big off a very risky investment.

GM’s investors… not so much.

That’s how the free market works. Nothing is stopping GM from doing what Tesla has done, which by the way started with nothing, by getting people, investors, excited about the future of transportation. They did this by going all in with creating EVs that have long range, are powerful and fun to drive and incorporate innovative technology. GM’s EVs…..not so much.

There are very powerful economic forces preventing a large legacy market leader like GM from using the same business model that Tesla is. That’s why in every disruptive tech revolution, some of the old market leaders go out of business, replaced by newer companies that grew quickly from startups.

See “The Innovator’s Dilemma”:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma

If Tesla keeps growing its production the way it has been since 2012, then it won’t be many years before it’s Tesla that is considered a non-risky investment, and a foot-dragging legacy gasmobile making dinosaur will be seen as the poor one!

Tesla’s stock is a risky investment because there is so much activity by speculators and day traders, but when you look at the business prospects, Tesla has an amazing potential for future growth… and GM has little if any.

GM has gone bankrupt multiple times? Really? What alternate reality did this happen?

GM went bankrupt in 2009. Govt bailout saved them from closing down but shareholders were wiped out

That’s once. What other time have they gone bankrupt?

Once equal to several times in your universe?

“GM has bankrupted itself several times ”

So once has became severe times? According to someone who are too stupid to count?

Tesla doesn’t have the same restriction because the largest shareholder is Elon and his family. GM is governed by different type of investors and board.

You are exactly right, GM is using profit to develop EV’s and also letting the technology mature before they jump in with both feet, this is the more financially conservative way to do things, and may win out in the end. GM is full on developing an all EV architecture that will work for full size 5-7 Passenger SUV’s but it takes time to do it right. They have another Buick BEV coming in the next 12 months, but the real BEV’s on the new architecture will not be here until 2021 and beyond. I think GM is well positioned both in BEV’s and Autonomous vehicles. For GM the new pickup launch in June is the big one, need to make lots of profit on those so they can keep funding BEV development.

“Tesla could go out of business next year or the year after. They are taking a huge gamble. Their investors are willing to take that risk. GM’s won’t and can’t.”

It’s only a risk if GM execs actually think that BEVs are not going to largely replace gasmobiles mostly obsolete within 20-25 years. Refusing that “risk” is exactly what lead to Kodak going from the #1 camera maker to going bankrupt.

Now, there is an argument to be made that most likely solid-state batteries may be coming along in a very few years, and any large investment in current battery tech may not be a very smart investment. But putting the brakes on while other companies are charging forward isn’t the way to stay a market leader. It’s the way to find yourself with an outdated product that can no longer compete in the market.

Strongly agree. While it’s often good advice to watch someone’s actions instead of believing their words, when it comes to car companies and EVs, it should be Rule 1. GM, like some other companies, is trying very hard to get all the greenwashing it can from a minimal product line commitment. How many times on this site have we seen people practically begging for someone, ANYONE, to bring out a decent SUEV? Imagine if Nissan had an EV version of the wildly popular Rogue or Rogue Sport; they’d have an order backlog and dealers adding “market adjustments” to the sticker price.

Good big picture point. All legacy car makers have large capital investments in making ICE. they want to get the most money they can out of those investments, not invest more to make evs, which don’t make much money.

Please define “decent SUEV”. Likely it is a unicorn that doesn’t exist in this reality, or universe. They are avoiding this vehicle because the current state of BEV technology makes it very difficult to do if one actually cares about selling BEVs to ordinary people. If you mean just selling SUEVs to the wealthy, then yeah, that’s probably doable. GM has actually chosen to try to sell down market and still give people what they most need in a BEV at the best price they can and that is range. Who else on the planet sells a BEV with 240 miles of range for $37,500? (actually a hell of a lot less after credits, incentives and dealer competition.)

Nobody. That’s who.

It’s not a production delay. They have more demand than they were planning to produce. They are increasing production this year.

Also kind of funny to see the disparaging or amused comments from Tesla fans, while they sit on a 2-3 year waiting list for a base model fictitious $35,000 Model 3….

I was thinking the exact opposite; that it’s rather amusing to see GM fanboys go on the same “apology tour” which they castigate Tesla fanboys for, regarding a delay of a year or more in someone waiting for the car they want!

Yeah, I think the next time some GM fanboy posts a Tesla bashing comment about the long waiting line for the Model 3, somebody is gonna link to this article. And maybe that “someone” won’t be just me, either!
😉

How about you not spam the comments full with your tesla fanboyism.

Canada needs to become a CARB state….

Ontario already basically is. $14,000 EV subsidy. And Quebec even more so, mandatory EV sales numbers. Which only means that many manufacturers just divert all their inventory to Quebec without making enough for the other provinces.

But GM doesn’t get USA tax credits.

But only Quebec has EV sales mandates, which is the real incentive for their adoption. The demand is there, the supply isn’t. Ontario has to install sales mandates too instead of relying on rebate incentives, which are basically added to the MSRP and thereby skimmed off the top by manufacturers, while consumers get this fictitious benefit (in the form of higher retail prices and a bad rep). Ontario needs sales mandates to wean off this subsidy.

There is no mandatory EV sales number in Quebec, only lofty goals by a greenwashing and Big Oil arse licking government.

One of their provinces is part of CA’s cap-and-trade market.

Quebec.

Ontario as well. For now. The Trump-like d’bag looking to win the upcoming election plans on killing it and also killing the EV subsidy.

So from that POV GM might be smart to keep production low. They will sell almost 0 in Ontario in a year if the politics in this province goes in the direction it seems it’s going.

VA isn’t CARB state and gets Bolt just fine.

Canadian needs to have more population.

Huh? VA 8.3 million people, Ontario 14.2 million people. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding you.

VA is tiny compared with Canada in land mass but dwarfs it in population density. Do you think if Canada has 1/3 of the people of US, it would have allocated more Bolts there?

Toronto is tiny compared to VA in land mass, but dwarfs it in population density. #randomfacts

With 2019 Bolts scheduled to start production later this summer, orders for 2018 Bolts have likely closed, or will close very soon (believe the books are already closed in Canada).
Word is that GM has been making the 5k South Korea-bound Bolts that sold out in mere hours earlier this year, which combined with maintaining modest US production likely leaves scraps for other parts of the world, such as Canada.
Once GM boosts production with the 2019 Bolt, these almost Tesla-like waits being experienced in Canada will probably be resolved.
http://media.gm.com/media/kr/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/kr/en/2018/march/0312_chevboltev.html

Isn’t Korea GM going bankrupt?
Yeah, the Bolt is supply constrained. No hurry to produce more. Maybe this Summer if you believe Mary B. which I don’t.

Nope, they averted bankruptcy at the last minute.

Actually, the vast majority of the GM Korea “bailout” was from GM corporate ($6.4 billion). The Korean Development Bank assisted with about 10%. They are the two largest stakeholders in GM Korea (77% GM and 17% KDB).

The real savior of GM Korea was concessions by the union for wage freezes and job cuts.

With the structural changes, GM Korea and the KDB expect the company to return to profitability within a few years. Without the changes, GM Korea saw no path forward to profitability and would have filed for bankruptcy.

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

The unions and government there finally bent and gave adequate concessions for GM to save the jobs there.

“This is not uncommon with launch products”. Wow, get real GM the Bolt was launched way, way, way back in 2015!! I re!member at that time GM saying, why wait for Tesla Model 3? You can buy a Bolt now. Well, where is the Bolt now when Tesla Model 3 is all around us? Let’s face it – GM is too busy blockading and lobbying against Tesla’s sales efforts in its home state of Michigan instead.

“Well, where is the Bolt now when Tesla Model 3 is all around us? ”

Really? Let us do this experiment. Go to your local Chevy dealers, order a $37K bolt today, and then go online and order a $35K Model 3 today. Which one will you get first? Unless you own a Tesla already and willing to buy the LR version, you are going to wait longer for the Model 3. So, stop your stupid whining based on your bias.

Yes, there is a much higher demand for the Model 3 than the Bolt EV, and thus a much longer line.

What was your point, wasn’t it? 😉 Well, it would have been if you were not trying to twist facts to fit your anti-Tesla narrative.

2019 is the MY where GM starts to receive lower pricing for batteries supplied by LG Chem. With better profit margins (and continued ZEV credit incentives), it only makes sense that GM will start to ramp up production for the Bolt, slowly but surely.
https://insideevs.com/gm-chevrolet-bolt-for-2016-145kwh-cell-cost-volt-margin-improves-3500/

The Bolt Premier is a $43,000 car built on the Sonic frame. If GM isn’t making a profit they did something wrong, because there’s no way the battery costs more than $10,000.

Bolt isn’t built on Sonic frame. Stop spreading the fake news.

And you know that because you are a GM employee so why don’t you disclose that fact?

Oh that’s right, because that would undermine your serial anti-Tesla trolling and likewise constant shilling for GM!

Hey, the eGolf also has a year long waiting list…what a coincidence!

When you only make 15 of them a year, it’s easy to get a backlog.

Supposedly most are made for the EU market…just like GM is making for the US market. Both try their best to not make too many copies.

I’m in Ontario, Canada and I put a deposit down on a Bolt over a month ago at my local GM dealership. This was to reserve a spot to eventually place an order for the 2019 Bolt, when they begin taking orders in Canada. I would have bought any Bolt model on the spot, if one was available. I was told at the time that I would have to wait 12-13 months to take delivery. So now I wait…and wait…and wait… My current EV is a Smart, so the Bolt will be a huge step up for me.

Funny your article mentions this “Check This Out: Chevy Bolt Finally Gets Its Over-The-Air (OTA) Updates” as one of the several month delays is getting new wiper motors that have new software in them 🙂 GM Recall #: N182148180; “Repair Description: Dealers will replace the front wiper motors with new wiper motors equipped with an improved software algorithm.”