90% Of Fiat 500e & VW e-Golf Sales In U.S. Were In California in 2017

AUG 26 2018 BY MARK KANE 32

Some plug-in electric cars are sold almost entirely in California

EVAdoption elicits us in its latest tweet on plug-in electric car sales in California aa s percent of the total U.S. sales.

As it turns out, there are models highly dependent on California – aka true compliance EVs like the Fiat 500e or even the Volkswagen e-Golf – the latter of which is getting some momentum in Europe at least.

Anyways, both the 500e and e-Golf in 2017 noted more than 90% of U.S. sales in California.

On the other side of the spectrum, we see Tesla Model X (32.4%), Ford C-Max Energi (39.1%) and Nissan LEAF (39.3%).

California is the U.S’. biggest car market, which means that the share will be always high, but if it significantly exceeds average share of the car market, then it must be related to manufacturers approach or some policy/incentives.

Source: EVAdoption

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32 Comments on "90% Of Fiat 500e & VW e-Golf Sales In U.S. Were In California in 2017"

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Doesn’t surprise me at all. Trying to get a dealer to tell you about the e-Golf in Maryland was like trying to pull teeth.

In Norway, they will tell you all about it, but still have to wait a long time to get it.
Supply is supposed to be better soon, according to local news.
Just like EVs from Hyundai, KIA, and even LEAF (shorter waiting line though).
M3 is not even for sale yet.
The manufacturers are not able to meet local or global demand.
When Tesla get their second factory up and running, and Mercedes, VW, Audi and maybe BMW really start production – and when Renault, Peugeot and others release more models, things will change.
Only 6 years until ICE cars are not allowed to be sold in Norway, for example.

To bad Tesla is not Apple rich. They could have had 3 Model 3 factories, and have started quicker with Model Y, their pick-up, truck and another small EV. All before the rest really started their volume production.

But many brands and models is good, since huge investments are made to give us many EVs to choose from.

They stressed in the last earnings call that a lack of money is not a major limiting factor to their growth…

I wish Ohio was like Norway

To be clear, Fiat makes no excuses for selling solely in California. New 500e sales are limited to California and Oregon.

I’m surprised that they haven’t expanded it given the fact that the traveling provision ended in 2017.

Hello compliance cars.

California is a favorable environment for EVs, socially, politically, financially and climatically. That explains the total share and the 90+% ones are basically only sold here.

I don’t agree about the financial part of that statement. Electricity is the highest in the country. Electricity costs nearly as much as gasoline. More if you use public chargers.

“I don’t agree about the financial part of that statement. Electricity is the highest in the country. Electricity costs nearly as much as gasoline. ”

If we ignore the lower cost of electricity for those who have solar power and the lower rates offered for EV owners and use 15 c/kWh and 4 m/kWh then we are looking at a cost of $0.0375 per mile.
Locally (Bay Area) we are paying $3.69 / gallon. Even if you make the sacrifice of driving an underpowered Prius you your cost is going to be about double.

Most public chargers that aren’t free (and there are a bunch of those) charge ~$0.21/kWh. At that price, it’s about equal to gas at $1.25/gallon for a 25 MPG car. Basically all gas in California is currently around $3.50/gallon, so it absolutely still saves money. Especially when charging is free.

Only because automakers have been allowed to not sell them elsewhere for years, building an EV community here. But there’s no reason why people in other parts of the country aren’t similarly interested and of course, when the price is right, people will jump all over EVs. (See also: Model 3.)

The big automakers are following the same playbook big tobacco employed. They want to keep selling us ICE junk for the next thirty years, and they will pull every trick in the book to make it happen. Bye bye Goldilocks climate.

If their was a magic switch that could replace all the ICE junk with BEVs tomorrow it would not save the Goldilocks climate…

Absolutely correct, only significant carbon taxes enacted by all of the large emitters (global taxes are a TOTAL nonstarter politically) offer any real hope of putting a significant dent in global emissions. The only serious hope for getting through the next few centuries without large numbers of extinctions, large sea level rise and a significant die back of the human population (kind of a good thing except it will, of course, be almost all poor people who aren’t big emitters) is geo-engineering (putting aerosols in the upper atmosphere to block some of the sunlight).

I certainly hope you are wrong. I think pollution is the worst thing we are doing to the planet and global warming is just part of the problem. Adding more pollution to curb one aspect of our problem is the worst solution. We need to clean everything up, not a band aid to hide the problem.

Actually, both EV adoption and renewable energy adoption show a very positive trajectory — by 2035 or so, two of the biggest carbon emitters should be mostly gone… Unfortunately, that’s too late to avoid catastrophic climate change 🙁

Unless you can think of the “just right” app, to use on a global scale, to reign in human produced CO2 and CH4, our existing Goldilocks environment, will have no choice, but to try to have all remaining species “adapt” to the new forcing, from increased climate warming gasses.

At some point in the future, a population of 10 Billion people will have to make some concessions, on 20th Century 1st World economy Fossil Fuel burning habits. If we don’t get into at least 50% sustainable energy utilization, we will have only ourselves (predecessors) to blame, on the other side of a very unsettling rapid (within a few centuries) climate transformation.

A few centuries, versus global history, means little to many who recently voted.

At least the dinosaurs weren’t so stupid, they failed to do something that could have stalled their demise.

It’s a shame the 500e didn’t get further distribution. The car is a hoot to drive.

It’s not even sold in Europe.

I know, right?!
And being here in the UK, I’m pretty confident that if the 500e were sold here (admittedly, it’d probably need CCS though), it’d be the toast of the trendier parts of the capital, where currently the i3 abounds.

The only surprising thing about this to me is that there is 10% sold somewhere else? I thought the 500e was only available in California. Of course, Fiat’s motivations are understood because the vehicle doesn’t make money and possibly still looses them money. VW, on the other hand, I find confusing. They sell the eGolf in other countries at a profit. So why is it only a compliance car in the USA?

I believe the 500e is also available in Oregon and Maryland or Washington…
There are lots of used 500es and eGolfs in Phoenix…
I dont know about other places…
VW is battery constrained and cannot make enough eGolfs to fulfill the demand in the EU so why ship them across the seas…
I also suspect that VW would like to pack their current generation of BEVs in right now and wait till next year when they start selling their ID series…

Yeah, but VW doesn’t want to sell its ID series, if it restricts the Buzz to 25mph. If they want me not to buy it, and deliberately gimp it to make me think it’s a characteristic of EVs, I move on. It negates what they do in racing because we already know how separate that forum is from what they sell.

25mph — Where do you have that info from? The videos from the single handmade prototype that they showed off to the press? Don’t be redicolous.

Fiat states emphatically on their website that the 500e is ONLY available in California and Oregon. Those purchasing used 500e in other states run the risk of not having a dealer authorized for EV repairs.

Were the remaining 10% in other CARB following states? I’ll bet they were.

If Fiat offers $2500 down + $99 a month across the nation, they are able to sell every where.

Water is wet . The sky is blue

Is the Fiat 500e even sold in other states? I would expect the remaining 10% to be distributed across the states that border CA.

Outside of CA, the 500e is only sold in Oregon. But eight percent for Oregon even seems a bit high.