Electrify America Launches California’s First 350 kW Charging Stations

DEC 7 2018 BY VANJA KLJAIC 25

The ultra-fast DC chargers are being launched at Simon Group’s San Francisco Premium Outlets.

These units become California’s first location for electric vehicle (EV) charging systems featuring fast recharging speeds up to 350 kilowatts

It seems that Simon, a global leader in premier shopping, dining, entertainment, and mixed-use venues, is gearing up for the electric vehicle future. They are doing this by teaming up with Electrify America, helping the real estate powerhouse advance the EV charging infrastructure at their facilities. In turn, this allows Simon to bring vehicle charging onboard as an auxiliary service for their customers.

The real-estate corporation owns or has an interest in more than 325 properties, comprising approximately 241,000,000 square feet (22,400,000 m2) of gross leasable area in North America and Asia. And now, the company’s San Francisco Premium Outlets will become California’s first location for electric vehicle (EV) charging systems featuring fast recharging speeds up to 350 kilowatts.

The fast DC chargers are built by Electrify America. helping Simon advance the electric vehicle infrastructure at their facilities. The first location will receive 10 DC fast chargers that will be fully open to public use. The charging site features eight 150 kW chargers and two 350 kW chargers. For the latter, the ability to recharge an electric vehicle at 20 miles a minute, providing a whopping 200 miles of vehicle driving range in just 10 minutes, will mean that this is one of the most appealing locations to do your shopping, movie going and car charging at the same time.

Furthermore, the 10 Electrify America chargers are co-located with 20 Tesla Superchargers. In turn, this makes the San Francisco Premium Outlets, one of the largest multi-standard fast charging sites in the country. And that’s not a bad way to market your business.

But, for Simon and Electrify America, there’s more to come. The company is set to install additional charging systems at Simon locations nationwide. These will include 17 centers in California, sporting a whopping 95 additional chargers when done. And from our point of view, that’s a really sound business model. After all, we all spend at least 2 hours at the shopping mall, maybe even more at the movies, and having your car fully recharged for a completely free return trip is something we’d all be looking forward to. Even if it costs us more money in the end – when you calculate all the caramel flavored popcorn we’re gonna stuff ourselves inside.

Source: Green Car Congress

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25 Comments on "Electrify America Launches California’s First 350 kW Charging Stations"

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Spoonman.

Installing them is great, making sure they work is another. So far the PlugShare check-ins at EA’s Bloomsburg, PA charger (the one closest to me, I think) are not encouraging. If you’re relying on a charge in Bloomsburg, PA and it doesn’t work you don’t have a lot of other options, either.

(Of course one of the negative check-ins is from a Clarity PHEV owner who of course can’t use fast chargers so one should as usual take public comments with a grain of salt.)

Will

I know. It’s open and working. Went to PA Hazleton from Ohio in my volt to drop off my brother and they were open and working

Spoonman.

Good to hear.

Blablubb

I wish EA would allow tracking as well as Ionity in Europe. Have a look what somebody put together based on the Ionity data that they update on a daily basis. Impressive growth over the last couple of months. https://ionity.evapi.de/#/ Great to see the growth in the US as well, the map is starting to fill compared to just a few months ago!

Will

Will not be free. You have to pay for EV Service

Texas Leaf

EV charging is never free, somehow someone is always paying for the charger and the electricity. Everyone used to complain about the cost to use EVgo chargers but EVgo prices came down and now EVgo prices look pretty low compared EA prices. EA price will have to come down eventually but until then I’m just thankful we have all the new chargers.

BoltEV (was SparkEV)

Huge THANK YOU to EA for not making them free. Free charging SUCKS the life out of people and make them lose their minds.

Paul

It’s $1 connect fee and $0.30 per minute, $0.40 per minute idle fee after you’re done charging. So if you spend 30 minutes charging it will cost you $10.00. There are also 4 EVGO DC fast chargers (50 Kw) at that mall as well, for a total of 14.

Ziv

Free charging is a blight on the landscape of humanity. Is that a thing? Anyway, free charging encourages idiots to over use it. The “free” chargers near me were nearly always blocked by Leaf taxi drivers charging their cars for “free”. The station is now closed.

White Leaf

It would nice to have more chargers in the Riverside area of southern California, there’s always chargers in use and never enough as Electric cars are becoming more and more popular thanks to Tesla. Can’t wait to see chargers at every shopping mall, grocery store and workplace.

Texas Leaf

The news about Simon is great but it’s hardly a novelty. EA has about two hundred charging stations identified across the country right now with over forty operational. All accept for a few of those stations have 350 kW chargers.

Some users are having trouble with the EA chargers. That is to be expected when a new system like this goes online. From what I have read, EA has been pretty diligent so far about addressing the issues and getting the chargers working again once the issues have been identified.

One area where EA is falling short is tracking the status of chargers. EA still does not have an app that can tell you whether a charger is operational or the last time the charger was used. Even after calling customer support before hand and confirming the chargers are online, some users have found that they could not charge once they arrived at the stations.

fotomoto

” a global leader in premier shopping, dining, entertainment, and mixed-use venues, is gearing up for the electric vehicle future. ”

These services typically take longer or, in the case of entertainment, much longer than it will take to DC quick charge an EV. Leave a movie or a dinner with young kids to go move a car?

Texas Leaf

Charging procedures are different for quick charging. For L2 charging you have time to get something to eat or even to watch a movie at a theater while you charged. For quick charging it’s recommended that you stay with the car while it charges and indulge in other activities either before or after you charge.

This procedure of break and charge can be quite useful on a long trip with multiple charges. For electric vehicles, like the Nissan Leaf, that tend to overheat the battery after multiple charges, taking a break gives the battery a chance to cool off a little. Since a cooler battery charges faster, taking a break before charging can actually save you money if you’re using a quick charger that charges by the minute.

Dan

For what it’s worth, the name is a bit of a stretch. The outlets are 1 to 3 hours east of San Francisco proper. Nice marketing though. Good idea to co-locate with a supercharger. Wonder if that helped (lower cost, quicker, etc.) for all of the supporting infrastructure.

hpver

EA’s reliability is pretty poor according to Plugshare checkins. And that’s entirely on relatively new installations. It’s incredibly disappointing. Chargepoint’s DC fast chargers are also glitchy. EVgo is far more reliable, and Greenlots is pretty good overall.

It shouldn’t be that difficult to keep things up and running. It’s almost as if some of these providers are trying to fail.

Spoonman.

I don’t get the downvotes on this and my comment. Who gets up in the morning and thinks “I’m gonna log on and stan for Electrify America”?

hpver

If the 350 Kw chargers really give 200 miles of charge in 10 minutes, then an outlet mall is the wrong location for them. A Starbucks or fast food place would be far better.

It’s like no one thinks these things through.

BoltEV (was SparkEV)

Current crop of EV will not charge 200 miles in 10 min, more like 1+ hour. Also, many people seem to want to charge to 100% and pay through the nose as I’ve encountered few in past month. For them, mall makes perfect sense and more profit for EA from stupid people.

phEVfan

Agreed. 350kW chargers are best for highway interchanges where you want to fill and go. At a shopping mall, you want to park the car once and go shopping. Don’t want to have to either wait for your charge, or run back to the car after 10-20 minutes.

What are the idle charges going to be on these when your charge is done? You’ll be forced to wait at the car to avoid penalties.

Davek

Thumbs up on that one. A mall where people are spending hours of their time is a stupid place to put very expensive and rare chargers that can charge a car in 20 minutes. Unless they’re trying to encourage 20 minute shopping trips, or they start only showing episodes of Family Guy at the movies. For the same price and better effectiveness they could have put in dozens of L2 chargers.

TomArt

Agreed – I noticed that right away as I read the article – no point in fast DC chargers at a mall. Though, if it’s on a highway, then the set of chargers could serve multiple functions – some for those needing a quick charge that are passing through, and others a slower charge while in the mall (like the SCs at the premium outlet mall in Hagerstown, MD).

Mike I.

That Simon Outlet location also has two EVgo installations, one at each end of the center with two 50kW chargers at each.
Simon has hosted many fast chargers. These are just the ones in California.

Petaluma Village Outlets – EVgo
Gilroy Premium Outlets – Supercharger + EVgo
Vacaville Premium Outlets – Supercharger + EVgo
Stoneridge Shopping Center – EVgo
Great Mall – EVgo
Napa Premium Outlets – EVgo
Camarillo Premium Outlets – EVgo
Carlsbad Premium Outlets – EVgo
Del Amo Fashion Center – EVgo
Desert Hills Premium Outlets – Supercharger + EVgo
Fashion Valley – EVgo + Supercharger (coming soon)
Las Americas Outlets – EVgo
Ontario Mills – EVgo
Pismo Beach Premium Outlets – Electrify America (coming soon)
Santa Rosa Plaza – EVgo
The Outlets at Orange – EVgo
The Shops at Misssion Viejo – EVgo

Jeff N

Article sez:
“The first location will receive 10 DC fast chargers that will be fully open to public use.”

Will? The site is already finished and open. I charged there two days ago.

Ziv

I would like to see a continually updated chart/webpage of how fast the Bolt, the 40 kWh Leaf, the e-Golf and the Ioniq (and all the new BEV’s on the horizon) charge 10%-80% on a 350 kW charger. I think most of the times I have seen Bolt charging specs it has been on a 50 kW charger. For what it is worth, I also think that the charging session should be billed higher if the person stays on the charger after the car has hit a taper point that reduces its charging below a 20 kW charge rate. Get them in and out more quickly and the fast chargers can serve more drivers. Staying to get 100% should be allowed for people that are going to need every mile of AER, but they should pay a little bit more for “holding up the line”.

Me

They are paying more for “holding up the line” when they charge per minute..

I don’t fast charge to full, or even 80%, if it can be avoided but for certain long trips it can’t be avoided.