BYD Electric Bus Now Being Tested In Downtown Los Angeles

MAR 2 2014 BY MARK KANE 10

BYD Electric Bus In Downtown Los Angeles

BYD Electric Bus In Downtown Los Angeles

In late February, an all-electric bus from BYD started a 90-day demonstration in downtown Los Angeles.

“The Los Angeles Department of Transportation will conduct a 90-day demonstration in which the bus will run as part of its downtown Los Angeles service, which transports an average of 29,000 passengers per weekday.”

According to press release, the bus will operate along a “very demanding” route with “multiple stops and large passenger loads.”  So, this is good chance to go and check out the leading Chinese EV if you happen to be in the LA area.

Los Angeles Transit Executive James Lefton stated:

“Should the BYD buses perform well under these conditions, it will prove to be very influential in LADOT’s decision to adopt the pure electric technology.”

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Bill Howland
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BYD’s large battery (326 kwh or thereabouts) is in my view a far better solution than ABB
s solution of a ‘Substation of Complexity’ at every bus stop.

Just by using a few more batteries, the BYD’s charge very grid friendily (is that a word?) over night using cheap baseload power plant and/or wind power. And no new infra structure of any kind is needed right now, and when they get 100’s of busses, then evenutally a larger electric service for the bus depot, but that is it. A totally elegant solution, and with LA air being the way its been, 100 fewer vehicles belching out bus fumes.

Mikael
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Mikael

ABB don’t make buses 😛 But I agree with using large batteries since it will reduce the complexity. And since the added weight and price fairly small compared to total weight/price there is no reason to make it harder than needed.

More solutions will be looked at but at the beginning and to get massadoptation of electric buses this is all that is needed. Reduced weight and price for the batteries will come as a bonus later on, making it even better.

Boris
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Boris

Now after NYC and London, LA is trying out this bus, I wonder who will put the first order in however. What’s up with the Nordic cities, I thought they’d be jumping on this…

DaveMart
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DaveMart

Presumably they are keener on giving Volvo a go:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2013/05/volvo-20130514.html

‘ Volvo Buses’ new plug-in hybrid buses will begin field tests in Gothenburg, Sweden this month. Volvo Buses has already sold more than 1,000 of its conventional hybrid units; the plug-in version will facilitate the reduction of fuel consumption and carbon dioxide by 75 to 80%, compared with current diesel buses, the company said.

The plug-in hybrids are based on the Volvo 7900 Hybrid, Volvo Buses’ second series-produced hybrid bus model. The plug-in hybrids have been further developed, and enable rapid recharging from electricity grids via the Opbrid Bůsbaar pantograph on the roof ‘ (May 2013)

Mikael
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Mikael
We have plenty of projects running here in Sweden. Volvo are developing PHEV-buses, trying them out in Gothenburg (which already have electric trams as the main public transportation in the city centre). And also pure battery buses with fast over head charging at stops, implemented in normal bus lines in 2015. Scania are developing buses in Södertälje and want to build and inductive stretch in the city of Södertälje. Hybricon is developing systems for electric buses. Going to try out 8 buses in the city of Umeå. With ultra fast charging at 300 kW. http://hybricon.se/word/ Trolleybuses in Landskrona which charge the batteries when driving on a route with air cables and then can unhook, “slide out”, and drive on batteries for a while and then continue to charge when back on a route with air cables just “sliding in”. Härnösand and Sollefteå will get electric buses this summer. They have ordered a few of the dutch? bus VDL Citea Electric with 200+ km range http://www.vdlbuscoach.com/News/News-Library/Wereldprimeur–de-VDL-Citea-Electric.aspx The (small) swedish company Coman are developing electric buses. Don’t know much about them except that an order from a swedish city was cancelled because of some argument. But they at least have buses in… Read more »
Boris
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Boris

Interesting, thanks for the info (to both Mikael and DaveMart)

Scott Franco
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Scott Franco

Anyone know the range of this thing?

LA, for those who didn’t know, went all CNG with its buses a while back and claims to have significantly cut emissions in the city.

bydfan
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bydfan

>150 miles per charge

Mark C
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Mark C

Is Proterra not a viable option? It seems to me like we’d want to support our own industries when they offer a competitive product. Or, is BYDs reputation so much better that we may as well give up on anything they compete with us with?

IMHO, it is shameful for our governments {local or federal} to send our tax dollars overseas instead of buying domestically.

jimmy james
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jimmy james
BYD is a publicly traded company with 60% American ownership (Warren Buffet owning ~10%). So technically only a 40% of the profits are going to stock holders outside of the US. Also Proterra would need to set up 2 of their $1M plus charging structures + the costs incurred to install these large charging structures to run a demo with their bus. Not to mention the additional costs the city of LA would incur to the tune of an additional $4-6K per bus in charging because the Proterra bus hits the grid for recharging every 15-20 miles throughout the day including during peak rate times. Foothills Transit realized this spike in electricity charges before finally negotiating a sweetheart temporary price break from SoCal Edison. Additionally, the chemistry used in the batteries for the Proterra bus is much more volatile than the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries BYD is using and don’t last the life of the bus. So other than the Proterra buses being far more expensive to own and operate, and the fact that they use batteries that are more harmful to the environment, as well as you will have to replace them at least once during the life of… Read more »