BYD e6 In Thriev Fleet Featured In Fully Charged – Video

SEP 29 2015 BY MARK KANE 19

BYD e6 in Thriev fleet

BYD e6 in Thriev fleet

Fully Charged visited Thriev, who operates 50 BYD e6 electric cars as taxis for companies in London.

In fact, they intend to introduce an additional 50 from a new batch, with higher range of some 240 miles (386 km), instead of the current 190 miles (305 km).

We are not sure whether the claimed range is actually achievable in normal operation, but with a decent battery pack size (~70kWh) nonetheless, they are well suited for taxi service regardless.

To get a better feel for ‘real world’ range, in the US on the EPA standard, the base E6 is rated at 127 miles (204 km) – meaning the newer edition BYD e6s for Thriev should net around 160 miles (258 km).

“First experience in the BYD e6.

A Chinese built 190 mile range electric taxi that’s surprisingly pleasant to drive.”

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19 Comments on "BYD e6 In Thriev Fleet Featured In Fully Charged – Video"

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a must watch from fullycharge about VW.

Llewellyn mixes up CO2 emissions and NOx emissions.

Yes, he should be embarrassed by all the mistakes he made. But I agree with his outrage.

An Excellent line by Robert: ‘The Truth Lies in the Con of the Diesel Industry!’

Sounds like an excellent new Movie Title!

Good overview of why evs are so superior, especially in the city.

When Robert Llewellyn asked the BYD rep in the video how many kWh the battery pack had, he said “about 70”. Wikipedia says 75 kWh.

If the e6 got about 3.1 miles per kWh, like the Leaf and the Model S, then with 75 kWh it should have an approximate real-world driving range of 232 miles.

Why, then, is the real-world range (127 miles) so much shorter? Is BYD’s tech so inferior that their electric powertrains are that inefficient; only 1.7 miles per kWh? How can the Leaf and the Model S be 82% more energy efficient than the e6?

I’d almost rather think that BYD was greatly exaggerating the capacity of their battery pack than to think it’s that hard to build an efficient EV powertrain.

sorry to disapiont you, but the efficiency of the e6 is really poor. Therefore the range claim sound about right.

And if they use a inverter that has 80% efficency, and a electric motor with 80% efficiency and more cable losses you might get to 60% system efficiency. Compared to around 95% (?) for the Leaf. The numbers seem possible, but yeah they are bad.

Keep in mind that even the renault zoe goes down to 70% efficiency at higher speeds. If a electric motor is tuned for speeds lower than 30mph, it might get really bad a highway speeds and therefore get bad results in test cycles.

And good results in typical taxi driving use case

@Mr M. and Pushmi-Pullyu, You ladies don’t know what you are talking about (efficiencies?) — cite facts. BYD specs show that this is basically a class 2 Truck @ >6000 lbs GVW. It is a workhorse, not a toy for the rich (Tesla).
His answer on pack size is a generalization:
— BYD shows MY2012-2014 had a 60kWh pack
(aren’t most of the London e6’s MY2014? )

— some MY2015’s shipped with a 70kWh

— MY2016’s have >80 kWh (what London gets next).

When Nissan makes an all-electric Taxi that can carry passengers comfortably, or when Tesla actually ships a $35K EV, then you can compare specs, until then — it’s apples and oranges. The rising tide floats all boats.

Pushmi-Pullyu said:
“Is BYD’s tech so inferior that their electric powertrains are that inefficient; only 1.7 miles per kWh? How can the Leaf and the Model S be 82% more energy efficient than the e6?”

Yes, to the first question. To the second question, because Chinese military hackers haven’t been able to steal Nissan’s and Telsa’s IP yet. 😉

Anybody who checked the EPA’s fueleconomy.gov would have seen that the BYD E6 had a rating of only 62 to 63 MPG combined for the last couple of years. That’s horrible, especially when considering he new Prius will have a 60+ MPG rating. Proterra EV buses are most likely greatly superior to BYD buses with regards to efficiency.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=34860&id=34859&id=36437&id=33383

@sven, you are a Sino-phobe, go trade in your Chinese iPhone for one made in America. I think that the California workers building BYD’s electric buses in Lancaster would take issue with your (Proterra) comment about their quality versus the the South Carolina workers building Proterra buses.
At the end of the day, there is probably room for a lot of good EV manafacturers. Put your hate away.

According to the EPA, the BYD E6 uses 55kWh/100mi (63 MPGe). This is 1.85mi/kWh from the wall, not to be confused with efficiency from the battery to the road. For comparison, the RAV4 EV, one of the least efficient modern EVs sold in California, is rated at 44kWh/100mi (76 MPGe) which comes to 2.27mi/kWh from the wall.

So, yeah, the BYD E6 has really poor efficiency.

@ Mike, you are kidding, right?
RAV4 EV is discontinued (so popular was it?), but the 2014 was only a 5000 lb GVR with EPA range of 95 miles with a 27kWh NiMH battery.
— the e6 is >6000 lbs (more passenger capacity) and was hauling a battery twice the size:60kWh
— Apples and Oranges, and not just Apples in 2016

E6 5000lbs 100hp 125 EPA miles 60kwh battery

lol

>6100 lbs GVW

WOW! Why can a chinese company build an electric car which can drive 258 km and NONE of the OH so great german manufacturers can?

I want a BYD E6! Please find a way to actually sell them in germany! (I would also like a TESLA, but I think BYD is more likely to be my budget 😉 )

The big 3 are right: Germans don’t want electric cars (if they come from german manufacturers and offer NO RANGE at high price!)

e6 is around 60000$ for 100hp lol

@EVfan, get your facts right
— Max Power is listed at 90kW (121 HP)
— Max Torque is listed at 450N-m. Match that on which vehicle?
and $60K is not the price either (anywhere)

Oops look like time warner struck again, no videos in the northeast us.

Oh but LLewellen seems to be just as knowledgable as most big experts so I can’t pick on him.

There does seem to be a change in carrier frequency in the pwm as the car accelerates – I thought the necessity for that type of thing was in the past.

But low efficiency or not, FOR the NYC Taxi EV Test, only the BYD passed. THe leaf’s battery was too small, and the Tesla was way too expensive.