BMW & Toyota Rumored To Be Working On Mini Minor, Toyota Starlet – Electric Version Of Mini Expected

MAR 30 2015 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 23

Mini Rocketman Concept

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According to Automotive News, BMW & Toyota appear to be expanding their cooperation partnership to possibly include a pair of pint-sized electric cars.

BMW Group and Toyota Motor Corp. may expand their cooperation to include the joint development of a new addition to BMW’s Mini range, a German auto magazine reported.”

“BMW is considering an entry-level car for Mini that would be called the Mini Minor, Autobild said. Toyota could launch its own version of the model, which may be badged as the Starlet, the report said.”

Mini claims that the report is “mere speculation” at this point in time and that may well be the truth.Β  However, Mini didn’t deny the report.

Of interest to us plug-in electric car fans is this statement in the report:

“BMW is expected to add an electric version of the Mini Minor after the first conventionally powered models arrive in 2018 or 2019, the report said.”

The more the merrier, right?

Source: Automotive News

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By 2019 a 120-150mile bev should cost the same as a ice equivalent. Why not come out at the same time as the ice? Sales of EVs will be at least double what they are today maybe even 3x.

Cute Death Trap…

It’s only a death trap because the road is full of selfish irresponsible people who drive 2-ton tanks like they stole them.

+1 Brian!

Don’t let your ego & false sense of invulnerability get in the way of basic physics…

Well, I do try to keep my ego in check, so I apologize for the mini-rant.

However, I happen to have a college degree in physics. I think I understand it better than most people. Collision safety is mostly about limiting deceleration rates. A properly designed small car has enough room for a crumple zone to be just as safe as a land barge. Sure, in a collision involving two vehicles, the larger one will fare better. But only because it is larger. That was the point of my rant in the first place. A collision between two SUVs is far more dangerous to all involved than a collision between two compact cars.

Moreover, collision avoidance should not be underestimated when talking safety.

Don’t worry, all cars will be self-driving by the time these hit the road anyway πŸ˜‰

It’s a Death Trap because of Legacy Vehicles that are much larger that this thing, interacting with your personal electrons.

My data comes from readin the Morbidity and Mortality Reports for Small Size Vehicles. The statistics are not good for vehicles of this size / class, no matter what you do with safey devices. Physics is physics.

Here’s a quick question: If you had to have a major accident, would you want to have it in this vehicle, or a Tesla Model S / X?

When you buy a vehicle, you should always ask yourself at the time of purchase– if that’s the shape of the casket you want to die in…

Pretty simple, really.

No offense, Anon, but you may need to work on your reading comprehension.

I said “It’s only a death trap because the road is full of selfish irresponsible people who drive 2-ton tanks like they stole them.”

You said “It’s a Death Trap because of Legacy Vehicles that are much larger that this thing, interacting with your personal electrons.”

You do realize that we are essentially saying the same thing, right?

Ahahahahaha. As a motorcyclist, I can’t help but laugh when someone claims a ‘small city car’ is a death trap! You should try a motorbike sometime!

Oh, by the way (why isn’t there an edit button?) my mum’s been driving a tiny little Toyota IQ for years now; in fact, she’s never once had an accident. Ever. Small cars may be inherently more dangerous than big cars, but to go as far as call them ‘death traps’ is plain naive.

Actually, these small cars are inherently safer than large cars. They are more stable, and more maneuverable, helping you avoid a collision in the first place.

As I alluded to above in my mini-rant, they are only less safe when in a collision with a larger car. The larger car will always inflict more damage on the smaller car, that’s just physics. But if you drive them both into a wall at 30 MPH, (properly designed and built) small cars are just as safe as large cars. And again, the driver of the small car has a better chance of avoiding that wall in the first place (without rolling the car on its roof).

You are operating under the assumption that you can always actively avoid every collision. This is simply not the case. All it takes is ONE off center crash at high speeds, and the smallest vehicle with the least amount of mass– is *ALWAYS* the loser.

Physics is physics.

Smaller cars can deflect to a point, but the human body does not fare well with sudden velocity changes that snap your neck on a recoil / bounce, instead of a “softer” cabin intrusion more typical of older vehicles that were built with a less advanced safety cell design.

Hamburger is hamburger; no matter if it’s on a motorcycle or in a small vehicle hit by a larger one.

And as for Autonomous Veicles as Josh suggest, legacy vehicles will be quite the problem, until they’re removed from the roads… That won’t be in your lifetime.

Had a friend that road a motorbike when he got back from serving years in Iraq. He died on a bike in Los Angeles, two weeks after I asked him to please wear a helmet and to be careful…

So he was ignoring the state wide helmet law as well?

No, he was wearing a helmet at the time. I merely mentioned it as I often get “concerns” before something happens to my friends. πŸ™

Unfortunately, someone stopped in front of him and he flew several yards the air, and was killed instantly when he landed. A helmet wouldn’t have helped. πŸ™

And just because I’m not comparing motorcycle safety with small cars, does not mean they’re rather Darwinistic devices unto themselves. They certainly are.

Sort of depends on where you drive. What does the local fleet look like? In Europe, average car weight is much less. Also, what kinds of collisions are likely in your area?

Plus, any EV has more mass than its size class would indicate. The supermini Renault Zoe clocks in at over 3,000 pounds (1420 kg).

So an electric MINI by 2019 or 2020? It will be completely obsolete by the time it comes out unless they modify the chassis design to accommodate batteries such that it can have a decent range. A kludge short-range gas conversion will be a non starter in 2019.

It’s been said that there is a correlation between the length of women’s skirts and the strength of the economy. They say in times of high inflation and low growth, skirts are longer, but as the economy rebounds, they styles tend towards mini-er mini skirts.

Well I am all for a strong economy, that’s for sure and if that is a byproduct, well bring it on! Does this also mean as our economy rebounds, EVs will get smaller and smaller? If so – I cannot get behind that. I mean, where’s the point when a golf cart becomes a SmartEV and a SmartEV becomes a Mini/Starlet?

Great! BMW’s version has CCS for fast charging and Toyota’s version has Chademo.

Not interesting…
The focus of the story isn’t EVs at all, which are only mentioned in passing in one sentence, doubly qualified, 5 years in the future, as a possible drivetrain variant.

As to the story itself (it doesn’t merit the term “report”), highly unlikely that BMW would let Toyota re-badge the Mini as a Starlet, a low-end name — that would mean too mnuch brand dilution,

(You can probably tell I’m not a person who likes retro-named cars milking nostalgia… As someone who actually got to drive an original Morris Mini-Minor and Fiat 500, the modern namesakes have nothing significant in common.

Many American families are too fat to fit in one of those EVs.

Many American families are too fat to fit in a Suburban