Bjørn Nyland Now Testing European Version Of Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter

FEB 20 2015 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 27

Tesla Model S owner Bjørn Nyland now has in his possession a CHAdeMO adapter.

Nyland, who resides in Norway, will test the adapter this weekend.

We expect a video to be posted by Nyland upon completion of his testing of the CHAdeMO adapter for the Model S.  Of course, we’ll post that video here just as soon as it gets uploaded.

Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter - Image Credit: Bjørn Nyland

Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter – Image Credit: Bjørn Nyland

Despite end-of-January promises made by Tesla, the CHAdeMO adapter is still listed as “coming soon” in the U.S.  Note that the CHAdeMO adapter in Nyland’s possession is different from the one for the U.S.  The European version is in early testing stages at this point in time.

Unfortunately, the end-of-January promise made by Tesla has been broken.  Still in "coming soon" status.

Unfortunately, the end-of-January promise made by Tesla has been broken. Still in “coming soon” status.

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27 Comments on "Bjørn Nyland Now Testing European Version Of Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter"

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Bjørn’s girlfriend: Bjørn, is that a Tesla CHAdeMO adapter in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? 😀

I don’t think his wife would let him have a girlfriend.

I think we should be more respectful to Bjørn and his wife. He does a lot of the community and shares a lot about his life.

CHA de MONSTER adapter… 😉

Maybe it’s CHArlie de MONster 🙂

“Oh yeaaaa…” -Bjorn

If someone gave an annual award for EV media Bjørn will be a very strong contender. 🙂

I hope he tests compability with different chademo chargers. Some of them are expexted to not work

They should put a scraper at the end of it, and you could use it as a window scraper too. “Word’s most expensive window scraper”

Do you think GM will make a DCFC adapter for the “Bolt”, that translates between CHAdeMO and CCS? 😉

No

“Despite end-of-January promises made by Tesla, the CHAdeMO adapter is still listed as “coming soon” in the U.S”
You must not be keeping up with things. The adapters have been shipping for a while already in the US, it’s just that it goes through the long waitlist so new buyers can’t order yet directly.

They started asking people on the waitlist to place official orders starting in February and were shipping out immediately after the order was placed:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16401-CHAdeMO-adapter-wait-frustration/page66?p=897073&viewfull=1#post897073

“Shiiiiiiiiiiit.”. lol, love Bjorn!

Bjorn to be wild.

Don’t forget to set your EV to “camper mode” tonight 🙂

After just looking at the Purchase order page, I see that there is a glimmer of hope, that with a software update, Non-Supercharger Equipped Model S cars (the 40 kWh/60 kWh Deliveries, with supercharging not enabled) might (I say Might – I have not confirmed it yet) be able to use this adapter to access CHAdeMO – as well!!

See: http://shop.teslamotors.com/products/chademo-adapter and read at the description bottom: “***NOTE: A vehicle software update must be performed at the service center if Supercharging is not enabled.”
This makes it sound like a 40 kWh Tesla – not yet upgraded to the full 60 kWh access, and without Supercharging Enabled, might be able to use this adapter, as well! That would be a nice compromise on charging speed!

I would like to see this in reverse — an adapter to enable a CHAdeMO equipped vehicle to charge at supercharger locations. The adapter could include a small fee for unlimited charging. Access to Tesla’s supercharger network would help advance EVs just as access to its patents. Until Level 3 charge locations are common, or some dominant standard emerges, its going to be an EV world of plug adapters.

I second that motion.

I would definitely not want to see that. What I want to see is supercharging able cars (large enough battery capacity) from tesla competitors who buy into the network with the $3-4k needed.

There is no value in having Leafs hoging a supercharger spot with some kind of adapter.

Sure there is a value. The Leaf could charge in 20 to 30 minutes and be on its way. Also, there would be higher utilization of the supercharger network. The rate at which DC power is provided to the vehicle would depend on the system being charged and on the state of that battery (temperature and percent of charge).

Your choice of the term ‘hogging’ (if I spelled it correctly) has a negative connotation. If high utilization leads to significant delays in charging, that is a problem that will need to be solved. It will be the result of more EVs driving more miles. That kind of problem can be solved without years for research technology breakthroughs, and most EV enthusiasts would know that is a good thing.

The difference is you are under-utilizing the equipment per charge. The same amount of charging time gives you less range, so there is less utility out of that station. It doesn’t matter as much if there is never a wait time, but if a Tesla owner ever sees a Leaf charging while they are waiting, they are going to feel like it’s “hogging” the space. Better to install a cheaper CHAdeMO charger or level 2 EVSE and let them use that.

Supercharger use should be predicated on cars that can charge at 90kW minimum. Something like the Kia Soul EV can meet that criteria.

John F said:

“I would like to see this in reverse — an adapter to enable a CHAdeMO equipped vehicle to charge at supercharger locations. The adapter could include a small fee for unlimited charging.”

Tesla 60 kWh Model S owners have to pay a $2000 fee for unlimited charging at SuperChargers. It’s hardly likely Tesla will offer that option to non-Tesla owners for a lesser fee. In the rather unlikely event Tesla does eventually offer use of SuperChargers to owners of cars made by auto makers who continue to refuse Musk’s offer to join the SuperCharger network, you can be sure it will be at a rather stiff premium.

Frankly, I very seriously doubt that will ever happen. Exclusive use of the SuperCharger network is one of the perks of owning a Model S, and is a high-profile selling point. Allowing other car owners to use SuperChargers would kill the marketing advantage Tesla gets from the SuperCharger network.

If it costs $2000 for unlimited charging of a 60 kWh battery on a Tesla, it should cost less for charging a 24 kWh battery on a Leaf. For example, it might be $800. Making a supercharger network exclusive and unsuitable for the majority of EVs on the road can be a disadvantage for Tesla. More sites should be open to a more inclusive charging system, and Tesla drivers will benefit from more and better Supercharging sites.

The capex Tesla is spending to install their Supercharger network is far more expensive than the electricity to operate them. The few dollars difference in electricity costs between charging a 24 kWh Leaf and a Tesla Model S is chump change compared to the cost to build the Superchargers.

If a Leaf could charge at a Tesla Supercharger with an adaptor then it would charge no faster than a 50 kW CHAdeMO. That Leaf would block a Supercharger for about the same amount of time as a Tesla Model S, meaning the cost to Tesla would be nearly the same. Given these costs, the Leaf should not get a price break for charging at a Supercharger.

Put another way, using a Tesla Supercharger to charge a Leaf would be a waste of expensive charging hardware. It makes more sense to install cheaper CHAdeMO chargers to serve the Leafs.

I don’t think Tesla will allow any non-Tesla EVs to use their Superchargers unless they can charge at 100 kW+. Maybe the Bolt and next gen Leaf 2.0 will have that ability.

Great idea, but will the higher super charger voltage damage a Leaf’s charger?

I think level 3 is DC voltage matching in the CHAdeMO connector. There is no Leaf charger involved. All the work has to be done by the Supercharger.

The way all DC chargers (CHAdeMO, CCS, Tesla) work is that the car tells the charger the maximum charging rate it can handle and the DC charger delivers no more than the requested amount. So unless the car requests more than it can handle there is no problem.