Audi e-tron Winter Range Test: Video

JAN 29 2019 BY MARK KANE 53

The range is not the highest among EVs, but it’s high enough

Bjørn Nyland’s test of the Audi e-tron winter range shows that 330 km (205 miles) is possible at speed of about 90 km/h (56 mph). The range could be higher by maybe 5% on a dry road.

Additional calculations indicate usage of 82.6 kWh out of 95 kWh battery, which suggests high reserved battery capacity (over 12 kWh), not available for driving. It could be also one of the reasons why the charging power within the available state-of-charge window is high even at the end (because the physical 100 is still far from 100% shown to the user).

Energy consumption seems relatively high at 25.3 kWh/100 km (62 mi), but acceptable. The Nissan LEAF had 17.8 kWh/100 km (62 mi).

Range test results at a constant speed of 90 km/h (56 mph):

  • Winter range: 330 km (205 miles)
  • Energy consumption: 253 Wh/km (407 Wh/mile)

Audi e-tron specs:

  • 0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds or 0-100 km/h  in 5.7 seconds
  • Top speed – 124 mph
  • up to 417 km (259.1 miles) under WLTP test cycle
  • 95 kWh battery (36 cell modules, each module is equipped with 12 pouch cells, nominal voltage of 396 volts)
  • battery pack weight: 700 kilograms (1543.2 lb)
  • dual-motor all-wheel drive – up to 300 kW and 664 Nm in S mode (boost) or up to 265 kW and 561 Nm in D mode. Front motor is 135 kW, the rear is 165 kW (S mode).
  • Maximum tow rating – 1,800 kg (4,000 pounds) when properly equipped
  • 9.6 kW on-board charger (240 V, 40 A) in U.S. and 11 kW or 22 kW three-phase in Europe
  • DC fast charging up to 150 kW: 0-80% in 30 minutes

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The range is probably the same as model 3 AWD in winter conditions. Cars without heat pump seems to suffer much more when the temperature is below zero degrees.

I assume you mean 0 C. Below 0 F heat pumps are generally useless using typical refrigerant/design pressures, have to use resistance heating.

Rasmus Birkegaard Christensen

I would get like 320 or so in my model s s85d in freezing temperatures. It’s much heavier than a model 3 and has older tech. Usable capacity is about the same. I bet the awd 3 would get at least 400km, remember it’s only at 90km/h

E-tron WLTP range is 259 miles.

330km at 90km/h is not much – i guess this is like 250km at 140km on German Autobahn. And even less if you drive 160 or 180km/h of there is no traffic. Does not impress me to be honest.

130-140 is important. But it’s still a high consumption. If you want to drive faster you have to go with an ICE. An EV is for saving energy not wasting it at 180kmh. For the rest of the world not even important.

Nope. Tesla is much more energy efficient than competition in high speed scenarios.

Fairly unimpressive.

This is better than I feared. At -5 to -6°C with winter tyres on a wet road with the cabin heated to 21°C this really seems alright for such a monster of a car. Especially since you can always charge this car to 100% since it has a generous overcapacity.

It is worse cause it is just 90km/h. Summer conditions, dry, at 120km/h the e-tron will use more than 30kwh for 100km, worse than the i-pace.
265km range with 120km/h is nice for a city car for moms. Not for any kind of longer (>150km one way) trips.

What about for dads. Oh wait, we men need to drive a pickup to feel good.

And then they have their mid life crisis and buy a fast “performance’ sedan because their wife won’t let them buy the sports car they really want. 😉

Mediocre range for the price at any temperature. And who drives 56mph?

The article should have explained to you that this is the TBTP, or “TeslaBjorn Test Procedure”. Driving the battery from full to empty at a constant 90km/h comes remarkably close to a real world use case of mixed city/highway over a period of ownership. It is his simpler way to come to a real world range figure.

And it represents the cost of fuelling the car which I believe is a really important metric for people that go electric for economic reasons.

Ok Concordeski

Bollocks. This car is cheaper than the Tesla 75Ds were and goes further.

The 75D version of the model X (and S) is no longer available.
The model X 100D with a bit more range than the e-tron costs a bit more money… maybe more than a bit.
The X is bigger, the Audi should be a bit more car – better driving, more high tech, more refined, better quality, more options (for sure very expensive), …

That is why I have written “were” not “are”. This is in my mind also one of the major reasons why they have been taken of the market, they were more expensive, had less range and charged slower in distance per time than the etron quattro.

Not quite right. I have a S75D, Dec 2017. At 110km/h (my typical highway speed here in the province of Quebec) I have roughly 330km range at these temps (0 to -5 C). I would get much more at 90km/h.

That’s because it is an S not an X. The S is lighter and significantly lower aero drag than the X or etron. The etron is a beautiful car (especially inside) and a true luxury barge, although with lower efficiency than one would have hoped. Etron, S and X are rich person’s toys so style my trump (sorry) the specifications.

I just looked at the Tesla configurator to check the price of the X and found (new to me) that they have de-rated the range of the S and X by 7 or 8% and taken $8k off the price.. Or you can check the box, pay $8k more (back to the old price) and get the old range. $8k is a lot of money for getting 25 miles of range back!!!

Does anyone know if they are actually removing cells from the battery or, more likely, limiting it with software. As a plus this software limit (assuming that’s what it is) should allow charging to the software limited 100% at a higher rate and with less stress on the battery. Anyone know anything about this??????

Air conditioning and heater on full blast for 21°C inside?

Model X 75D is rated at 237 miles of EPA range. The E-tron is likely to be rated near 220 miles of EPA range. That’s pretty abysmal given the size of the pack and the cost.

Even the Model X 75 D was more expensive. And I guess that the etron has more range than the X75D.

Alright, that does it. I’m calling for a shooutout at the O.K.Range Corral.

Its winter, I have my coffee, we need someone to estavlisyna Motor Trend type test for range and efficiency, Outside temoerature should be moderate, needing only minir cabin conditiohing or none at all. No hills, no rain or wind.

Just line up a Jag, EQC, e-Tron, 75D S and go for it until they turtle and coast to a stop.

Some moms on their way to the kindergarden.

That 205 in winter is probably 250 in summer.
So, not really bad for version 1.0.

Do a WLTP conversion and 259 does not equal 250, no matter how hot it is.
More like 225. It was not that cold either.

Try driving too fast in Norway and you may quickly qualify for mandatory jail sentence. Or at least ~ $1000 fine for +21 km/h. It isn’t Wild West like in the US.
Speed limits are low, 70-90 km/h, few motorways up to 110 km/h.

And frankly it would be stupid to drive faster in winter in Norway anyway, the roads and their condition may be not so great.

From 95 kWh there is 88% usable Audi guys told me, that would be 83,6 kWh.

Yes, I have also earlier read it has 83.5 kWh usable.

The buffer is larger than the battery of some PHEVs. With the added mass and volume corresponding (plus the increase of the price) it’s kind of ridiculous.

I hope Audi will minimize in the future, like after about a year of studying the battery degradation of the sold E Tron.

but the charge rate is off limits , at “98% ” stil 50kw , due to this buffer.

I would gladly trade a little bit (it would not be much) of charging speed for 5 to 7 more useful kWh which are already in the car.

So they can say, see how little our batteries degrade.

Yeah they can open up some battery

sorry, but that’s really poor. Drive at 70mph on a UK motorway you’re probably >15% less efficient, so range is more like 180 miles.
Anything <200 miles real world is a concern for many users as you won't want to run it right down so typically you would want to keep to a minimum of 30 miles remaining, so real world is then about 150 miles – and that's assuming you run it from max charge. Charged to 90% for battery longeivity and you're even further down to 130 ish miles. Not enough imho and poor effort by Audi given they have had 6+years to study Tesla and can't even match the 6 year old ModelS.
It will sell because people will buy just for the brand, but there is risk here that poor real world range may impact on wider EV takeup which is essential for emissions reductions.

It sounds like Audi have thought about that. With the spare battery capacity it seems like you should be able to run it at 100% of usable charge (85% of battery).

So that means 180 miles of winter range at 70. Doesn’t seem bad,

For a pimped VW with a price tag nearing 100.000 euro that is simply lousy. Who drives 110 km/h on the famous Autobahn (with hills)?

News just in: Autobahns are in Germany. Audi sell cars worldwide. In the UK, in North America, in Norway 110km/h is ~the speed limit.

“Drive at 70mph on a UK motorway you’re probably >15% less efficient”

How often does it get to -6c with snow in UK? That was much colder than we see in our weekend ski trips so that 203 miles is worst case and that’s pretty good.

Model 3 in warm, sunny flat terrain could only get 241 miles when rated 310. THAT was a shocker. That would mean Model 3 running in the same cold and snow as the Audi eTron would have likely gotten less than the Audi’s 203.

https://insideevs.com/video-tesla-model-3-range-test-battery-dies/

I’ve achieved over 300 miles of real world driving at 70mph in my Model 3. Average 244 Wh/mile over the course of over 4000 miles.

Ah, he normally gets 281 miles of range on that route. He had a low result from 20-30 mph winds during that particular test.

“About 281” and year later, 241. Starting out 10% less than EPA range is not good. Losing 70 miles of range in a year is RED ALERT.

That’s on any car except Honda

I really didn’t expect that. Considering it is much heavier and it isn’t egg shaped for drag reduction, that is a pretty good range given the conditions.
I still don’t like it though and consider that the E-Niro has the best value for the price in all current EVs. The e-Tron is for the ones looking for a luxury SUV.

“The e-Tron is for the ones looking for a luxury SUV.”

Yes, and Audi agree with you about that. Audi are up-market models, it is a VW you are looking for if you want a mass market model, or Skoda or Seat if you are looking for cheaper variants.

Who cares about efficiency ? Like really we just go in pur EVs and drive until our range is almost at zero. All I care about is range 150-280 miles and charging 0-80% in 30-40 min

LOL …. “Who cares about efficiency?” … apparently you do, since you care about range. You understand how it works all together right?

Charging speed of the e-tron may be much more important to potential customers when they go from ICE to EV. And considering its shape and size, its efficiency is not bad. Let’s face it, consistently charging to 80% at approx. 150 kW is truly unique in the market. If I had money to burn, I’d pick the e-tron without a doubt.

100% in the e-tron is only 88% of the 95kWh battery capacity.
So 80% of that is close to 70% in a Tesla for example…

The blue neon ambient lighting reflects on the glass. This is German engineering?

Blue lights, stripes and stitching indicating ELECTRIC is getting tired. I wish ICEmakers would give that up.

I long for dimly-lit cupholders. The cupholders appear to be the only thing NOT backlit. Nothing worse than glancing into a black console abyss on a rainy, dark night driving 65 mph., fiddling to get your cup into the hole. Why do manufacturers backlight everything except those? Its a minor niggle in my M3 as well. I had to go to the aftermarket to solve such a basic thing.

It Seems Audi lit buttons and switches so garishly as to look like a hipster singles bar. Subtlety would seem the order of the day. Perhaps Bjorn had the ambient lighting up high and it could be cancelled or dimmed? If not…Not ideal.

A premium car with subtle door pocket, console and convenience offset lighting that can be defeated or dimmed is best. Like in S, X and M3. Just my opinion.