Additional Details On U.S. Version Of Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

2 years ago by Mark Kane 36

2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is finally coming to the U.S. (see walkaround video) and will go one sale this fall as 2017 model year.

Don Swearingen, executive vice president of Mitsubishi Motors North America (MMNA), revealed to Autoblog a few additional details about the upcoming plug-in hybrid SUV for the US.

First, Mitsubishi encourages that it’s ready for additional Outlander PHEV production after few years of lithium-ion battery constrains, that limited market expansion previously to just Japan and Europe.

In the U.S. from 10 to 20% of all Mitsubishi Outlander (some 2,000 a month) sales are expected to be PHEVs. The target for the first year now stands at 4,000, which is down some ~1,000 units when the company had originally pegged a late August/September release.

Simple math indicates this means about a ~2.5 month slippage has occurred, and we should expect to see the Outlander in early November.

Francine Harsini, MMNA’s senior director of marketing, encourages that Mitsubishi plans “a big national marketing push” when it ultimately does arrive.

Any dealer in the US will be able to offer the car, but they will have to get EV certified by Mitsubishi. Anyone who already sells the i-MiEV is already certified, and Swearingen said he suspects the Outlander PHEV will really increase the number of interested dealers.”

Price to be announced three months before sales launch, so we expect ~August.

The 12 kWh battery should allow for around $5,800 of the $7,500 federal tax credit, depending how the fractional values are ultimately reported/rated.

“Swearingen did say that the Outlander PHEV should qualify for a federal tax rebate of around $5,800, based on the battery size. (This doesn’t quite match up with what we’ve heard, which is that the Outlander has a 12-kWh pack. A 12-kWh pack would only qualify for $5,419 in rebates)

The tiny Mitsubishi i-MiEV is also to remain available at least through 2017, but the future isn’t clear as Japanese carmaker intends to focus on the plug-ins for CUV segment, and has stated there will be no next generation of the i-MiEV.

Quick Outlander PHEV specs:

  • 12 kWh lithium-ion battery
  • all-electric range of 32 mile/52 km NEDC and expected 22 miles/35 km on the EPA scale
  • 2.0-liter gas engine and two 60 kW electric motors (one per axle) for AWD

source: Autoblog

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36 responses to "Additional Details On U.S. Version Of Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV"

  1. PJ says:

    So is it 2k sales a month for the regular outlander, or do they expect 2k for the plug-in version a month. It sounds like it’s 2k for the regular version so only 200-400 sales a month. Which is really low, so much so that you wounded why even bother. There are a few Europen countries that sell more by themselves. I was expecting 2-4K a month for the plug-in. I know Mitsubishi isn’t the biggest brand in the states but this thing sells like crazy in Europe and Japan

    1. David Murray says:

      Well, historically, how many regular outlanders have they sold per month?

      1. Mitchell says:

        ICE Outlander sales in the USA are 2000 per month, so Mitsubishi says sales of 10-20% of that would be very good.
        Via http://www.myoutlanderphev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2460

      2. David S. says:

        Averaging 2k a month for the last 8 months like PJ said
        http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01/mitsubishi-outlander-sales-figures.html

      3. JP White says:

        I’m not sure regular outlander sales are relevant.

        Other than the Tesla Model X, this car has no plug-in competition. The regular ICE Outlander has a very broad competition.

        If they price it reasonably as in Europe it will sell gang busters.

        1. ModernMarvelFan says:

          “Other than the Tesla Model X, this car has no plug-in competition. The regular ICE Outlander has a very broad competition”

          Huh? if price of Model X is already acceptable, then Volvo XC90PHEV, BMW X5 PHEV are all potential competitors.

        2. EV AZ says:

          Agreed, the M3 reservations would be an indicator of how many Outlander PHEVs will be in demand. At an allocation of only 2000 per month I could see a wait list.

          RAV4 EV
          5kw PV

  2. Bill Howland says:

    Looks great, depending on the final price.

    1. Just_Chris says:

      +1, you took the words right out of my mouth.

      If they sell for $40k+ this is a totally uninteresting offering, $30k and it is the most exciting car to hit the US this year after the Bolt. At 400 sales a month (20% of 2,000) it would seem that $40k is about right if the price is much lower what they mean is they’ll only import about 400 per month.

      1. mr. M says:

        Expect them to be 40.000$-50.000$ depending on version.

        In Germany they cost 39.999€ base
        +6.000€ Plus
        +another 5.000€ Top

        The european to US price ratio is often around MRSP US = Price EU (tax included). Since the Euro is worth a little more than the Dollar, but we have taxes included in the price.

        1. Nix says:

          Converting European pricing to USD has long been a very unreliable way to try and estimate US pricing.

          1. mr. M says:

            Ok, you are right. It’s only valid to get a rough estimate.

            We should better compare the Outlander (no Plug) that is available already in both countries.

            US version MSRP:
            23.890$ (FWD)
            25.890$ (AWD)

            European version (inkl tax):
            base: 20.990€
            plus: 24.690€
            plus, 5 seats, AWD: 28.690€
            top: 36.690€

            So the US version in $ might be 2-3 cheaper or more expensive compared to european € depending what the US version includes.

  3. Scott says:

    Was mildly interested in this for a replacement of my 4Runner, then came the model 3…. it’s sooo dreamy…

  4. Rich says:

    Any word on what the MPG is when operating in hybrid only mode?

    1. Miggy says:

      about 7.litres / 100km

      1. mr. M says:

        Hybrid only mode results in consumption of:

        5.6l/100km in city driving (43mpg)
        7.6l/100km at highway driving (31mpg)

        Electric only consumption is around 17kWh/100km (same as the Leaf). With a range around 50km (31 miles).

  5. Eric Fisher says:

    Batteries seem to small for my use. Put down deposit for Tesla 3. Will reconsider this vehicle if range goes up a little.

    1. mr. M says:

      The US version went up a little already from the initial offering. Around 0.5 miles more to be expected.

      A little means <10% increase? Or what do you ask for?

  6. pjwood1 says:

    Doesn’t sound as good, now that years have gone by. I’ll take a Pacifica “Hybrid”.

    1. RexxSee says:

      It’s been at least 2 years since his success in Europe. Specs sounded good then… Remember that the petro-automobile cartel wish to delay the rEVolution as much as they can. Delaying the introduction of this awesome PHEV is a way to do it. If their intention had been genuine, Mitsu would have rushed to sell a lot here since last year.

    2. Spider-Dan says:

      Agreed. The Pacifica is pretty clearly a superior vehicle; I anticipate Outlander PHEV sales to go to:

      a) people who actually need AWD for the snow
      b) people who don’t want to be seen in a minivan

      (primarily the latter)

  7. midimal says:

    Put 20kWh Battery into Outlander PHEV and I am in!

    1. ziv says:

      Even 15 kWh would be a huge improvement. 22 miles is really shortlegged.
      The Ford Fusion Energi gets around 19 EPA miles of AER from a 7.6 kWh pack and the Outlander barely beats it with 22 out of a 12 kWh pack.

  8. Rick Bronson says:

    Please bring this model, otherwise Mitsubishi will slowly go down in USA.

  9. Spyder Mann says:

    Mitsubishi has only 1 intention…to take American dollars for a 100% complete “NOT made in america” car! They abandoned their U.S.production but they sure want the American money.

  10. Kosee says:

    Mitsubishi doesn’t expect to sell this car well. Odd because the AER range is the same as the prius prime and it’s an SUV, which is what Americans want, right?

    10-20% is very low, the regular outlander seems almost non-existent I’m Europe since the phev version arrived. People have an outlander that didn’t even want a EV or phev, just because it’s a financially good decision.

    This makes me think mitsubishi will price this car out of the market.

  11. R.S says:

    In Europe the Outlander PHEV makes up over 60% of all Outlander sales, I doubt it would be much different in the US.

    1. Nix says:

      In many parts of Europe, the Outlander qualified for full tax incentives vs. just partial tax incentive in the US. Along with getting better yearly registration fees than the ICE version.

      For example, the UK incentive is £5,000 (which would have been about the same as $7,500 USD for most of 2015). And on top of that, the road taxes are based upon CO2, so you save money on taxes you pay too. Add that to the much higher gas prices in the UK than in the US, and the lower daily driving pattern of UK drivers, and the UK makes for a better market for the Outlander PHEV.

      The US is a tougher market for them to crack than many places in the EU.

  12. Djoni says:

    Two 60 kW motors feed by a 12 kWh battery seems interesting.
    If you applied the same to the 30 kWh new Leaf, they would have put 300 kW motor in the Leaf.

    And any Leafer would have give Tesla a ride for their money.
    Half of that power would still double the actual offer.
    Sheee…..

  13. ct200h says:

    A reasonable update to 16kwh would add usable AER and maximize the tax credit in the USA. But seeing how long it has taken to make it to the USA there is little hope of any update.

  14. Josh Bryant says:

    Model X managed to win the race of most delayed US plug-in SUV.

    Will this beat the Bolt to market? Not sure.

  15. Sully says:

    Deal breaker for me is that you lose the 3rd row seating in the PHEV version.

  16. Stephen D says:

    If they can sell it for <$30 after Fed credit it will be a huge hit and they will be short on inventory

  17. JP White says:

    It won’t come out this fall as detailed here. It’s been delayed. Again!!

    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1103086_2017-mitsubishi-outlander-delayed-for-u-s-againspecs-may-change

    November at the earliest.

    Believe it when you see it.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Hey JP,

      Nothing has changed since Mitsu released this update…November is Fall.

  18. deborah crazy train flower power says:

    I like Tesla cars the most 🙂