ABB Launches 4th Generation Terra 23; This One Supports CHAdeMO, CCS and Fast AC


Terra 23 is Like the "Baby Brother" of the Pictured Terra 53 System

Terra 23 is Like the “Baby Brother” of the Pictured Terra 53 System

ABB has just announced the launch of its latest multi-standard DC quick charger: Terra 23

ABB Terra23

ABB Terra 53

For Terra 23, the fourth generation update ushers in support of the Combined Charging System (CCS) standard.

Now, the Terra 23 can be equipped with up to three outlets (CHAdeMO, CCS and Fast AC) or with one or two.  It’s all up to the purchaser.

This low-power unit (20 kW) is designed for use in situations where the 50-kW Terra 53 (pictured) would draw too much power.  ABB says retail locations, commercial office environment and auto dealerships are ideal for the Terra 23.  Whereas, the Terra 53 is more suitable for highway rest stop areas and inner-city situations at dedicated charging sites.

The 20-kW Terra 23 can charge a vehicle to 80% capacity in 30 to 60 minutes, versus the 20-ish minutes of the Terra 53.

ABB further says that all Terra 23 units can be “field upgraded” to support 50 kW in the future if need be.

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17 Comments on "ABB Launches 4th Generation Terra 23; This One Supports CHAdeMO, CCS and Fast AC"

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so 53 = 50kW,. and 23 = 20kW. Why not just call them 50 & 20?

Seems like all of these chargers should have 120V plugs on them too, in case someone wants to use their own EVSE. Or how about multiple cords so more than 1 car can charge per station. I’ve seen 2 cords per charger, but not more than that. How about 4 per charger and put it in the center of 4 parking spots in the middle of a lot?

The article says up to 3 cords can be fitted.
I agree that chargers could be used more efficiently if they serve multiple spaces at a time. Even if there aren’t enough cords for every space, someone who is completely charged but still hogging a space can be unplugged (and the electricity billing system reset) and used by another paying customer parked within reach. Maybe lights on the charging unit itself could tell you which cords are available and no longer transmitting electricity.
Is unplugging someone else’s car still okay if they are completely charged, or has the etiquette changed?

Volt’s blink when charged, and I’ve unplugged other Volts to charge mine. Only bad part is the horn honks.

I thought the 3 cords mentioned in the article were for different types of plugs, not multiple of the same. Can the charger actually charge 3 vehicles at the same time?

Re naming, ABB already sells a single-port 50 kW CHAdeMO charger called Terra 51, so if you really wanted to find some logic in here, maybe 51 = 50 kW one port, 53 = 50 kW (up to) 3 ports. 🙂 I don’t see a use for “fast AC” in the US. Would be pretty cool indeed to have chargers fitted with more DC ports, e.g. dual CHAdeMO like Blink units. Even if only port is active at a time, not having to wait for whoever is charging to come unplug her/his vehicle, maybe move it, etc, could save quite a bit of time. It allows the charger to be used continuously when needed, very effective. @Gary: I don’t think the etiquette has changed: personally, unless given permission via a note or something, I would not unplug someone’s else car. Now, quick-chargers make it easier to tell if someone is actually charging, and aren’t to be used to precondition the vehicle or something like this, so if I find myself stuck, unable to continue my trip because someone can’t be bothered to unplug long after quick-charging has completed, yes I would likely make an exception. That could include requesting that… Read more »

Tesla is already running at 135 kW. This tells something that it takes other EV manufacturers at least a decade to catch up Tesla’s lead. And by then Tesla is probably already approaching 200 kW.

Tesla pushes “up to 135kW” (unverified marketing claim) into a 85 kW*h battery, approx 1.5C charge rate.
Nissan, Mitsubishi and probably BMW can pump 50 kW (actual, sustained) into a battery 24 kW*h or less, 2+C charge rate.

Indeed it would take Tesla to get to 200kW to catch up with those guys’ lead (something they can’t do anyway without modifying existing cars, btw)… At least a decade…
[Yes that was a bit provocative on purpose, but so were you, right?]

I wonder if the difficulty of fast-charging the 40KWH battery is one of the reasons it got dropped.

Start at 6:00 in this video, it showed 312 A at 368 V which is 114.8 kW; hardly a “unvarified marketing claim” 😉

What do they mean here by “fast AC”? I know the L2 J1772 standard goes up to 80A / 240V (19.2kW), and Tesla offers an optional on-board 20kW charger. Is this what they mean, or is it referring to the Mennekes standard used in Europe? (put another way, is this US-bound or Europe-bound?)

I like that they recognize the need for an intermediate speed in charging. Too much focus is placed on the time to charge a battery from empty to full. Most people won’t run their batteries to empty – that leaves no room to get to an alternative charger. Instead, opportunity charging will probably prevail as the norm (once infrastructure like this is so ubiquitous, you don’t have to plan out your trip / charging). People will plug in for as long as it takes to hit the bathroom and grab a cup of coffee. More often than not, they won’t be standing next to their cars waiting for them to reach 100% charge,.
“In the Renault Zoe, the French brand introduced a new technology it called the Chameleon Charger. The Zoe has one single port for charging, one single charger and one single AC/DC converter, and it accepts any current from 230V 10A 1-phase up to 400V 63A 3-phase (43 kW). Best of all, it’s self adaptive.

American company AC Propulsion looked into it and designed a system called Reductive charger, but Renault’s system is different, safer, more robust and better in every way. Most notably, it’s much stronger with the ability to sustain 43-kW charging.
It’s also new technology, fully owned and patented by Renault. ”

Google search:

zoe, like the Tesla uses the Mennekes standard in europe, so tesla can use this fast charger to (in europe)

You didn’t actually answer my question, although I guess the implication is that this is for the Zoe? Does that mean it uses a different plug format than J1772?

Brian, I believe the ‘type 2′ standardized by Mennekes works up to 63 kw.

Defacto charging stations in the US are 30 amps, and in Canada, 70 amps due to SunCountryHighways’ presence.

If there’s any great clammoring for anything more than 30 amps, I’m sure not aware of it since I’m seeing plenty of Chargepoint free 30 amp things these days, but nothing bigger. They are wisely keeping them free around here, since I think everyone realizes that if they aren’t free, the only people who will use them are for people in an emergency/ or get out of bind situation as I was when I visited you.

Not sure what they call it, but even the smart42 european version has a 22kw Mennekes option, and I know another ‘standard’ version is 44 kw. Seems funny that the fastest smart42 charger is currently 3 kw (down from 3.3 kw two years ago). Maybe Laurant could fill you in on anything more powerful for CCS or Chademo.

Tesla seems to currently have the most powerful rechargers.

Yeah that looks affordable

You’re right Dan. I question the wisdom of having 3 expensive connectors exposed to the elements ( but then I’m in a very cold climate ).

I know they are usually closed up, but being in a public place you can’t always depend on that.

They seem to charge too much for these things. Maybe they need to have a decent markup since they don’t expect to do any manufacturing volume.

People frustrated with so many standards for fast charging seem to forget that it is still a problem for our cell phones. Just look at how many companies that are selling cell phone charging adaptors. Situation is getting better with most going with some form of USB charger and port, but still too much variation to be truly called universal. I see having similar frustrations with EVs for some time. Maybe things could become easier if, like cell phones, there was just one cable that you could put the appropriate adapter on it.