686 CHAdeMO DC Fast Chargers In The U.S., Up By 53 In Less Than 50 Days

AUG 21 2014 BY MARK KANE 29

Worldwide CHAdeMO Map (August 13, 2014): 686 CHAdeMO DC Fast Chargers In The U.S., 3869 Worldwide

Worldwide CHAdeMO Map (August 13, 2014): 686 CHAdeMO DC Fast Chargers In The U.S., 3869 Worldwide

Nissan LEAF connected to CHAdeMO charger

Nissan LEAF connected to CHAdeMO charger

Over a month ago, we noticed 633 CHAdeMO DC fast chargers in the US on the official CHAdeMO Association website.

On August 13, this number was changed to 686, which indicates 53 new installations in less than 50 days – or more than one charger a day on average.

The total number stands at 3,869 and it seems that the Japanese quick charging standard will reach 4,000 points this fall.

“The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 3869.
— (Japan 1,978 Europe 1181 USA 686 Others 24) last update 2014.08.13″

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Its The globally consistent charging standard
unlike the Continental German/American corporate standards.

Chademo is the Franco-Japanese corporate standard.

And not a very good one either.

Mahindra & Mahindra has signed on but they actually have to make electric cars and deploy the actual units in India to make their commitment more than theoretical.

CHAdeMO doesn’t really have much French involvement (only PSA Peugeot Citroën because of the iMIEV clones). It’s primarily a Japanese standard. It only turned international/open after pressure from CCS and the EU.

On a related note, it seems the CCS network is growing rapidly in Europe. It seems it’s possible now to travel across many countries there using CCS chargers.

Why would you want a “globally consistent” charging standard, when the electricity grids and existing plug standards are anything but consistent on different continents? Using a combo plug based on J1772 would obviously not make sense in Europe, where 3-phase is common in many countries. On the other hand, you would not want to use a combo plug based on Mennekes in the US, since it would be incompatible with the large installed base of AC L1/L2 chargers.

The CCS plugs are harmonzied as much as it makes sense (most importantly the signaling protocol to keep controller development simple). The outlier is Chademo, which not only has an incompatible protocol, but also requires two receptacles on the car.

DC-Chargers already are adapters between any sort of AC grid and the car, no need for different standards there.

There are simple Mennekes Type 2 to J1772 cables in Europe. Type 2 can always be used with one phase. In fact, most Type 2 compatible cars use just one phase right now. Only Zoe, Tesla S, Mercedes B and optional Smart (for 3000 Euro on top of it’s price) can use Type 2 with all three phases.
And of course you can use all the Phases for DC too (if any car will support that standard… ever). So Type 2 could work anywhere, but I guess CSS will win in EU.

They may have installed 686, now how many of these actually work ?

Here in Salt Lake City we have 3 installed and as of yesterday all 3 of them were down.

ABB hardware is junk.

ABB? PlugShare says all the units in Salt Lake City are Nissan units.

The 2 Units owned by Salt Lake City on 500 south are made by ABB. They have both been down since June 15. They have been broken for so long that plugshare removed them from the list.

The other unit owned by Salt Lake County on state street is also an ABB unit. It has been down many times. See plugshare comments.

We have 8 ABB Terra SC quick chargers in Utah. Currently, 4 are broken down.

I’m sure Tesla owners will enthuse. They have the CHAdeMO adapter. Oh, wait!! Can’t edi-

Question is …

HOW MANY of the 686 are OPERATIONAL and publicly ACCESSIBLE?

Yeah, the number of times that Chademo units are out of service is a bit distressing. Is it just the hardware from one or two makers?

I find this story that the number of these chargers going up by 53 new ones in the US to be wrong. The reason why is I have been keeping track of them on plug share every few days. In the last month I have only seen three to five new fast chargers pop up on the map.

To tell you the truth I think something else is happening and that is Fast Charger Stagnation. Fast Charger Stagnation is when all you have is the same existing chargers aging and no new ones being built to go the system.

Another interesting thing was I was asking a Nissan Dealer about a used Nissan leaf for sale. He was shocked to learn that DC fast charging existed for the leaf. The good news was after hearing about Nissan giving out DC fast chargers he was interested in seeing if they could add a fast charger at the dealership.

I don’t think it is actually 53 chargers added in 50 days, it’s just the main CHAdeMO site is notoriously slow in updating the information so they probably batched up the update. So 53 chargers added to the site in 50 days, but who knows when they were actually installed.

Did I miss it?
Where are they on the map.
Where are these new chargers?

Are they scattered willy-nilly?

site updates of Chademo or CCS or Frankenplug are not fine grained.

I wish someone would create new San Diego Chargers.

I’d like to do some community supported, cooperative, share based quick chargers, message me if interested in San Diego or the Bay Area.

I see what you did there… 🙂

All these arguments about plug-in standards will soon be over as Inductive Charging takes over.

The small efficiency losses from inductive charging will not matter when the overwhelming benefits become obvious.

Benefits outweigh negatives 100 to one,

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20140813000209

I dunno, the charger BMW is working on for iCars is 3.6kW. I’ll deal with the “hassle” of a plug and charge at 80A.

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That is typically enough for at home overnight charging. I’ve been doing 3.3kW for 3.5 years. So for the needed weekend/trip charges people can still plug in but the masses would like to drive in to their garages skip the plug. Of course, people don’t mind plugging in their phones … SMH.

Interesting article. I think that the current wireless standard may prove to be fine for cars with < 50kW batteries, but it may be too slow for the larger battery packs.

I could see where the masses might prefer this. Personally, I prefer to plugin, as I feel it gives more control.

Does anyone know where there is a comparison of features, reviews, cost of QCs online?

Chademo.com has pics and models but we need more to locate units to install on a cooperative, community, share based system. Thanks!

Here the German Picture

DC Chademo 39 x 50kw, 31 x 20kw
AC TYP2 18 x 43 kw, 3400 x 22kw, 1100 x 11kw
DC CCS 42 x 50kw, 15 x 20kw
DC Tesla 95 x 120kw

I prefer TYP2, so I can USE my car.

regards

How many CHAdeMO Charging Stations are 24 x 7 access able? How many are co-located with a couple accessible L2 EVSE’s? How many are installed, on a State by State count?

How many are Free and how many are Paid access? What are the paid prices charged? Which billing networks are they on?

I think Robert’s questions above are valid. Most EV drivers do not “expect” free charging, we expect to pay a fair price. But there is such a wide variety of charging costs that it is a crapshoot if you were to pull into a QC location for a charge. Is it working? What network? How much will it cost(if it works)? These problems or questions need to be resolved so you know what it will cost,and that you will be able to QC if you see a location on Plugshare, eg.

For people bitching about non-operational CHAdeMOs, here is the analogy.

Tesla is like Apple – proprietary, company owned ensuring uptime.

CHAdeMO is like Android – open, widely available and in time achieves resilience because of numbers.

Nah, that analogy doesn’t work. Since BMW, Audi, Daimler-Benz, GM, Fiat/Chrysler, and Ford all back CCS, you can’t view Chademo as Android.

The DC fast charging situation is pathetic all around. The current winner is Tesla, IMHO . . . I didn’t see that coming. But I guess that is what happens when there is a standards war.