500-HP, 300-Mile Audi C-BEV Pure Electric Concept To Debut In Frankfurt

JUL 29 2015 BY MARK KANE 21

Audi R8 e-tron

Audi R8 e-tron

We have another sign that Audi will unveil a concept version of its all-electric SUV at the 2015 Frankfurt Motor Show.

Codename of the project for the electric Q6 is “C-BEV“.

The C-BEV is positioned as a Tesla Model X competitor, but with sales scheduled to start in the second half of 2018, Tesla has three more years to introduce an improved version of the X to maintain or extend its advantage.

C-BEV will be 5-seater with range of at least 500 km (310 miles).

Battery and motor technology will be related to the R8 e-tron. We remember that the new R8 e-tron is equipped with Tesla style 18650 lithium-ion cells. Around 90 kWh is expected at this stage.

C-BEV apparently will also get a front motor within the gearbox (sounds similar to the solution used by Volkswagen Group in all plug-in hybrids), and two motors, one for each rear wheel, like in the R8 e-tron.

System power will be higher than the 340 kW in R8 e-tron, although it’s to early for any concrete numbers to be released.

To achieve long range electric, the SUV will not push too much air:

“Audi is also claiming a “sensational Cd value for an SUV” of less than 0.30.”

Source: Autocar

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21 Comments on "500-HP, 300-Mile Audi C-BEV Pure Electric Concept To Debut In Frankfurt"

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Brian

Bring it, Audi. And I don’t mean the concept – I mean the product.

pjwood1

We already know they get the concept.

TomArt

🙂

RS

That sounds good! Well 90kwh might not even be close to enough, for a 2018 car, and 500hp is also a little low, but that can be improved. It is nice to see someone trying to build a high range/performance big BEV, besides Tesla.

John Hansen

“and 500hp is also a little low, but that can be improved”

Lol! Wait, are you joking or not?

Stimpacker

Audi, please consider DC Fast Charging solutions. A vehicle like that will undoubtedly be used for family road trips.

John Hansen

Interestingly, if it really has a 500 mile range, there isn’t much need for DC fast charging, except for apartment dwellers and bad-ass road warriors. Not many family road trips are more than 500 miles round trip, and very few are 500 miles in each direction. Simple L2 destination charging is all that is needed at that point.

Still, I hope to see more DC fast charging. 🙂

Ryan

You mean 500km = 300mi… not even close to enough for a road trip, it won’t even get me from Minneapolis to Chicago and there are no DC fast chargers in between other than Tesla Superchargers

stimpacker

Also, on family road trips, we don’t creep at 65mph behind semis.
The AC is also usually running.
The roads are never totally flat.
We don’t want to reach the destination at 0% SOC.
We still want to drive around when we get there (and not to hunt for a charge).

Brian

Worse yet, it’s 300 miles on the NEDC scale. 90kWh in an SUV – even with a lowish Cd – will be closer to 250 on the EPA scale. Driving on the highway at 75-80MPH, it will be more like 200 miles.

mustang_sallad

I don’t see any reason not to expect 100+ kW fast charging on this car, and possibly a decent amount of 100kW stations on the road by the time this car hits the road in 3 years. Look at what Tesla accomplished in 3 years. I’m not saying that any one automaker has anywhere near as much drive and commitment as Tesla, but hopefully, with multi-standard DCFC stations and several automakers now getting into the realm of 150+ mile range EVs, we should see some teamwork on deploying the infrastructure. Starting to see a few modest examples of such teamwork already.
A supercharger to chademo/CCS adaptor would certainly help, or who knows, maybe everyone will get on board with the supercharger format – either way, fast charging will make this car road trip worthy.

TomArt

Cool – Audi will have a 2nd-place CUV BEV a year after Tesla takes and holds 1st place with the Model X.

If the Model S P85D, and the optional 90kWh pack upgrade, are any indication, the top-of-the-line Model X will probably have at least 250mi EPA range and 503hp (depending on whether the website is accurate, the current P85D has 259hp front, 503hp rear…does that mean 762hp total?!?).

TomArt

The non-performance Model X could have 270 miles or more EPA (dual-motor, 19″ rims, all-season tires).

TomArt

Speaking of Model X – for being only a month or two (or three?) from first deliveries, you’d think Tesla would have the design studio/ordering page up and ready by now. All we know for certain is that it will only be available in dual-motor configurations. We can reasonably assume that it will be available in 70kWh and 90kWh packs.

In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the 85kWh pack disappears very soon as an option for the Model S…unless they want to keep the price down and charge you more for the upgrades…

Priusmaniac

Since the X will need more energy than the S, 90 KWh will be a requirement and there will likely be an extention on the other side toward 100 or 110 KWh.

skryll

Why are you suspecting this to be a model x competing product when it is a 5 seater ? It competes with the model s only. The model x is a 7 seater for rich soccer moms daily routine and for taking friends for a ride with the family.

Brian

Because it is an SUV form factor and not a sedan. Plenty of SUVs sell very well with only 5 seats.

Scott Franco

A Tesla competitor at the same price but without a charging network? Hummm…..

JakeY

I think the expectation is around 250 miles of range for the Model X with the 90kWh battery. So Audi would need a much smaller car (it is 5 seater vs. 7 seater, so that helps somewhat) and aero tweaks to squeeze out 300 miles.

Audi uses 7488 to get 90kWh, Tesla uses 7104 cells. So Tesla still has a 5.4% density advantage. And by 2018, no doubt Tesla will already have another upgrade (at the moment it’s unclear if even the 70kWh is offered for Model X).

Three Electrics

Three motors? It’s bit hard to believe. Torque steering is cool, but on an SUV?

TomArt

Maybe to help prevent roll-overs?