New 2018 Nissan LEAF Spyshots: Interior And Exterior Revealed

4 months ago by Jay Cole 150

It’s the inside of the 2018 Nissan LEAF (Automedia)

Despite Nissan’s promise to continually release new images and information on its upcoming next generation LEAF, which officially debuts at a special event on September 6th in Tokyo (or Sept. 5th for most of the rest of the world), that really hasn’t happened as of yet.

Since May 18th, all we have seen is a lone shot of the driver’s side front headlight assembly.  Big whoop!

Fortunately, our spy photographers don’t care so much about Nissan wanting to keep the ‘cat in the bag’ and have taken some of the best new shots of the 2018 LEAF out testing on the road today – both inside and out!

2018 Nissan LEAF spotted in the wild with a lot less camo!

Thankfully, the Nissan-installed exterior “trash bag camo” on the last set of spyshots we uncovered have now been replaced in favor of just standard vinyl camouflage.

Also, we have the first look at the interior of one of these new Nissan LEAF test vehicles!

The fit and finish look fairly “production-intent” to us, and demonstrate a refined version of the set-up found in the current generation.

2018 Nissan LEAF – complete with refreshed interior!

On the outside, we still aren’t sure what to make of what appears to be a false grill up front below the new charging port – definitely a styling change over today’s LEAF, but the headlights are definitely an upgrade.

The rear hatch has also been toned down to look a bit more conventional; which could be the theme of the 2018 LEAF judging by these photos.

2018 Nissan LEAF

2018 Nissan LEAF sporting a more conservative rear hatch

Overall, we agree with the direction Nissan is clearly taking here with bringing the new LEAF into the styling fold of the rest of its lineup, but really the success of the 2018 Nissan LEAF is really going to based on 2 things:  battery/range and pricing.

The next generation LEAF will begin deliveries in the US in December/Europe in early 2018, and is expected to have a starting MSRP from the low $30,000s when equipped with a base trim/battery package that is good for about ~150 miles of range. A longer range option (~60 kWh) is said to be available in 2018, which pushes the available driving distance north of 200 miles.

Gallery (below): 2018 Nissan LEAF Spyshots

Gallery: Nissan’s lone teaser image, and previous spyshots

Images via Automedia

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151 responses to "New 2018 Nissan LEAF Spyshots: Interior And Exterior Revealed"

  1. unlucky says:

    Steering wheel looks nicer. The rest is the same old garbage. Isn’t that NAV screen even smaller than the one the LEAF switched to 18 months ago?

    Hey Nissan (and GM), get rid of the shifter on the center console and just give me buttons or a column shifter.

    1. georgeS says:

      “Isn’t that NAV screen even smaller than the one the LEAF switched to 18 months ago?”

      Not sure if it is smaller but can’t say I’m too thrilled with it.

      If they intro this thing with a small 30 kwh’ish battery with no active cooling it’s going to be a big disappointment.

      1. SparkEV says:

        Las Vegas (Lost Wages for some) hit 117F (47C), highest recorded temperature in history. If new Leaf doesn’t have thermal management, “it won’t be good” might be an understatement.

        I wonder how hot it’d get while charging DCFC on top of hot asphalt or parked in enclosed garage hooked up to L2.

        1. William says:

          Just Lease the Leaf! Who cares about battery issues with Nissan? After 24 or 36 months, it is time for Nissan to take the Leaf back, and dump it on the Manheim Auction Circuit!

          1. Dyna says:

            ….then find a cheap off-lease Leaf from Phoenix and get a free battery under warranty!

            1. William says:

              There are those that have actually pulled that rabbit out of the Nissan hat. A bit of a risk for a second hand owner to chance, in some close call ( 8 > 7 capacity bar ) instances. Cutting it close on battery degradation, and not meeting the threshold, could be an unpleasant and expensive Nissan battery replacement lesson!

              1. Aaron says:

                The real question is whether or not this is an LG battery pack. Nissan was talking to LG quite a while ago. If it’s a Nissan-made pack, then it will likely have the same problems the original pack did with heat issues.

                1. John Doe says:

                  I am sure the pack is both heated and cooled – as they were the only problem with that model.

                  Apart from crazy expensive display screen – if you happen to break it.

                  I have not seen any new EVs that does not have heating and cooling. Cooling will be important in the future for faster charging too, and even more so – for people that wants to live in a desert, for some reason.

                  1. Unplugged says:

                    Nissan (I don’t recall whether it was Ghosn) have stated that there will only be passive cooling on the new Leaf.

          2. SparkEV says:

            Even for a lease, if you lose a “bar” or two after first summer, and another after second summer, etc., you’re effectively paying to lease a lower range EV. If new Leaf has 150 miles range, and you lose 4 bars (30%?) in 3 year lease, you’re effectively leasing 128 miles (85%) average range EV with latter half of lease being worse (105 miles at end). Then you might as well lease 128 miles range EV with TMS that’s probably cheaper (eg. IoniqEV).

            As for buying used with highly degraded battery, the problem doesn’t go away just because the battery is new. There still isn’t TMS, which means newly replaced battery will also die prematurely if used in hot areas. As others have mentioned, it can get pretty hot in some parts of CA. Unless you only drive in cool climate and never venture out, it’s still bad.

            1. William says:

              Good call on The Hyundai Ionic Lease. Now to actually get to Lease one, would be a neat trick as they are just trickling in at the moment. My 2016 Leaf Lease has almost 9 K miles and a 10/2015 build date. Leaf SpyPro shows SOH at 100% still. 27.9 kWh still useable of the 28 kWh. On the 30 kWh Lizzard pack you can Level 3 Quick Charge the Heck out of the battery without hardly any taper up to 80%!

              1. SparkEV says:

                Are you in Las Vegas or AZ? If not, and if you never intend to visit anywhere that gets hot, Leaf may be ok. But I’m talking about hot areas, and if you intend to visit them, you are risking the battery.

                1. Mark.ca says:

                  Why is it only the leaf with these problems? The eGolf to my knowledge has the same cooling system (air) but you don’t hear about any battery degradation in CA. In my area we constantly are over 100F in July-September and my commute takes me through even hotter areas and my range is the same after a year.

                  1. alohart says:

                    Doesn’t the eGolf at least move air through its battery pack with a fan? I think the Leaf is totally passive. I doubt that any kind of air cooling is sufficient in really hot areas.

                    Even some i3’s with refrigerant cooling are refusing to start due to excessive battery pack temperatures after being parked all day in the direct sun on hot asphalt. Their A/C compressor that cools the refrigerant won’t run unless the car is on or charging so that it won’t drain the battery pack’s charge while parked.

                    Really hot weather is tough for EV’s that don’t have very large capacity battery packs that could run their A/C compressors to cool their battery packs while parked as Teslas might do.

                    1. John Doe says:

                      I’ve never notised that the i3 had any problems with heat.

                      But then again, I kept it plugged in when I parked.
                      In Spain, I keept it at 16 C, and in Norway I had it plugged in the same way. In the winter I have it on 20 to keep the windscreen ice free and the car warm and cosy.

                      Cool car to rent, but I think it is too expensive to buy, and it looks a bit weird, and at the same time a bit cool and different.

                      The technology behind the car does make it interesting. I have several friends that have the EV only model, and the car has worked flawless so far.

                      The corrotion resistance is supposed to be best of the EVs – but I will probably lease the Zoe.

                      Since I live most of the time in Norway, Germany or Austria – extreme heat is not any problem.

                      The leaf is larger, and I’m kind of waiting for the price to be anounced. I think it will be competetive. More expensive then the Zoe, but not that much more.

                  2. SparkEV says:

                    Mark, GOM range is poor way to judge battery capacity. my 2.5 year old SparkEV now shows 105 miles GOM range whereas new was 75 miles. But measuring the battery, it lost about 0.5 kWh in past year, probably 1 kWh (or bit more) since new.

                    It’s simple Physics: battery will degrade over time, and the hotter it is, the more degradation you will get.

                2. William says:

                  Your right, the Hyundai Ionic will quite probably be the best low cost value for Ludicrous Heat Climates in 💯 🔆 Easy Bake Oven EV roasting cook offs!

          3. KenZ says:

            Yes, we need lots of leases. That way when they come off lease I’ll be just about ready to retire my purchased used ($9700) 2013 Leaf and get my next 5 year commuter car for cheap. I’m at 49,500 on the odometer today and still have all 12 bars here in Reno, where it’s mildly hot in the summers and cold in the winters. 35 mile commute with a charge on each end… no problem.

            I think it really depends on your needs. New leaf will do just fine.

          4. Anderlan says:

            Heat issues will turtle your car in order to keep from *severely* injuring the pack, or igniting and s***. That’s why lease isn’t the answer.

        2. Steve says:

          It was 120F in Phoenix yesterday

          1. William says:

            Black Asphalt and a stick of Butter, and all your Nissan thermal management woes are covered, by the friendly nice fellows at Nissan Corporate! Heat in the 120 ♨️ range, is egg cooking/frying territory!

        3. ModernMarvelFan says:

          Even many SF Bay Area counties have hit 105 degree and higher this past week.

          No wonder that many LEAF owners no longer charging at my work place this week! LOL.

        4. georgeS says:

          SparkEV,
          in 108 F parking lot for 8 hrs I had 1.5 MPH range loss in the afternoon in Model S—not plugged in of course. Model S will drain it’s batt just sitting there to cool battery.

          Just a fact of life because the batt is expensive so better to give it the temp it wants.

          I bet the BoltEV does the same thing….even though my Volt did not

          1. SparkEV says:

            Some say even SparkEV uses battery to cool the pack if the temperature gets too hot and parked.

            It doesn’t take a whole lot of energy to cool the pack when stationary if the battery is somewhat insulated. You only need it to about 80F, not 40F like some office buildings try to do. The number you show might mean about 0.5 kWh, which isn’t bad at all.

          2. Unplugged says:

            When I have visited Palm Springs in the summer (112F) my Focus Electric would state upon turn-off, “It’s hot outside. Plug-in when possible.”

        5. Mister G says:

          I agree spark, stay away from leaf in those temperatures but they will only continue to increase. Only option is TESLA

          1. Counter-Strike Cat says:

            Tesla Model 3 is cheap s*** build and has no heatpump and the glass roof will suck out all heat and the heating will eat 40% of the range.

        6. Tom says:

          I keep hearing this talk of Arizona and Vegas and whatnot and losses of 20%. There appears to be solutions for the issue. But the other much larger issue of EVs is cold weather and I see nobody really even trying to acknowledge just how big it is. Cold weather. Most of the ‘yeah I tried it and lost 20%’ are really people driving in what I call ‘cool’ weather. 25 degrees or something. So first up even that is going to be effectively a range hit as big as what you are describing. Second and more important is these vehicles simply won’t function in any normal usable manner if the weather is actually cold. So for instance my commute is 90 miles round trip. In January it can be -15F in the morning pretty regularly and sometimes wind 20mph or more which increases heating loads for cabins (convective cooling always more). There is little to no usable information on how even a Tesla works in this environment if at all much less a leaf. I found stuff like ‘Tesla recycles waste heat to heat the battery pack’. Ok fine…what about the cabin? Or in another spot Tesla says its battery pack on the roadster (a bit outdated?) will function ‘safely down to -5F’. Umm…ok. So is that still true? If I park my car outside at work will the stupid battery pack sit there all day trying to stay warm just like you are speaking of staying cool? And mind you Newton’s law of cooling is at play here so the temperature differential is greater in below zero weather for the heating issue than it is for the cooling issue in hot weather so it burns more if it needs to stay in a temp band. And then how about the far more important issue? Even if it is functional and safe and takes 25% of the range off there is the very real issue that no resistance heater and no heat pump will ever get the cabin to any usable temp at the ambient temperature I’m describing. BMW’s I3 heat pump would be a joke. Heat pumps stop working (or rather get less and less efficient) about 0F give or take. And the only spec on a resistance heater I could find was 4kw which is big but nowhere near enough heat to work in my opinion PLUS in this weather the air conditioning pump has to run too because you have to keep humidity from human expiration from fogging up the windows. i.e. virtually all ICE vehicle defrosters run the AC when turned on. Will the Tesla or Leaf? How does this stupid thing work? I can’t even find valid info on a Bolt. Fluff pieces written on Canadian electric vehicles usually just gloss over the facts. It’s usually some guy that just says he’s going to leave his coat/hat/gloves on and crank up the seat heater. OK fine sparky so now you have made a compromise that takes us back 70 years and you are trying to sell this to ordinary people as an advance. Anyway this is why we are nowhere near mass adoption of BEVs in anything but mild climates. A Volt is a superior machine in such an environment. In fact if the electricity you are burning is from natural gas (I’m not even saying coal) then the ICE engine is net better efficient in the cold weather when considering transmission losses (30 or 40%), charging losses, etc. The net efficiency of gasoline in cold weather will be higher. And it is unlikely in that environment that your electricity came from solar. In fact it will even cost you more per mile to drive with the electric car than gasoline in some cases for cold weather.

          1. sveno says:

            Whoa whoa settle down 😀

            -15F (-26C) is peanuts! My Leaf has no problems with -35C (-31F).

            1. the heat pump is definitely of a nordic class and it works well enough for me. Sure the efficiency goes down but the heat is there.
            2. If you have a bigger battery but same interior then the range penalty would be much much less. iMIEV is a total disaster in winter – city only. On the other hand Tesla owners don’t really seem to care what the temperature is.
            3. I loose way more range with thick snow or slush on the road than very low temperatures.
            4. There are however things that need to be planned ahead with the current Leaf. Like when I am staying over somewhere where I can’t charge I need to make sure I DCFC in the evening when the battery is still warm from the drive or else I’ll be sitting there forever in the morning with really cold weather.

          2. alohart says:

            There are a ton of EV’s operating year-round in Norway. Norwegians seem to have made them function well enough to be usable.

            The i3’s battery pack is heated by a resistance heater. The heat pump on the BEV version is used only for cabin heating until it’s too cold at which point a resistance heater kicks in.

          3. sveno says:

            5. Old Leafs have a 6kW resistive heater. Newer models come with a heat pump + resistive heater. Max is still 6kW. Teslas can use 10+kW for heating but they use are more complex coolant loop where even in winter heat from motors is being fed into the cabin and/or battery.
            6. ICEs only have the range bonus in winter. Problematic startup on SLA batteries. Without a pre-heater you will need a long drive before the interior will get warm. You need winter diesel.

            Deicing the windscreen is like magic on an EV – push the heater button and it starts melting.

            At -40C (-40F) or below the ICEs start to be more useful again because then you really need that engine heat to keep your car from turning into an ice cube. Especially when you don’t have a heated garage to melt the snow and ice from the underside.

          4. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

            Wow, that was quite the post; was it your first?

            I can’t possibly answer all your questions, but here are some points:

            1. Cold weather, even long-term exposure to cold, won’t permanently reduce the range of an EV’s battery pack, not even the Leaf’s.

            2. I’ve never heard of an EV refusing to run just because it was cold. Reduced range, yes; but not refuse to operate.

            3. If possible, leave your car plugged in overnight on cold nights. That way it can run the battery heater (and maybe even the cabin heater) off power from the wall, preserving your car’s range.

            4. At worst, figure on 30% loss of range in bitterly cold weather, if the car is left outside and not plugged in. Plan accordingly when you decide what car to buy. If you can’t leave the car plugged in overnight, then get an EV with at least 30% more range than you think you’ll need for a daily commute. In fact, unless you’re getting a short-term lease, make that 40% over, because you need to plan ahead for loss of battery capacity as the car ages.

            5. If it gets really cold where you live, then definitely don’t settle for an EV with only a heat pump to heat the cabin. You’ll need a resistive heater on really cold days, when the heat pump isn’t putting out much heat.

            6. The Leaf does have a battery heater, even if it doesn’t have a battery cooling system. Of course, it takes power to run the heater… which, again, is why you should leave the car plugged in overnight when it’s cold outside.

            7. Lots of technical info, and real-world data, on the effect of low temperature on the Model S’s range can be found at the website linked below. (You can safely skip past the drama-queen framing story around the pertinent data.) I don’t know how well that translates to the effect of cold on other EVs, but all EVs have reduced range in very cold weather. (And so do gasmobiles, a reality generally overlooked!)

            http://www.duckware.com/blog/tesla-elon-musk-nytimes-john-broder-feud/index.html

          5. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

            Tom said:

            “…the ICE engine is net better efficient in the cold weather when considering transmission losses (30 or 40%), charging losses, etc. The net efficiency of gasoline in cold weather will be higher.

            None of that is correct.

            1. Electric transmission losses, from power plant to the consumer, average only 7%. Charging losses, from wall outlet to battery pack, are about 8-15%. Added (or more precisely, multiplied) together, that’s about 14-21% loss of efficiency between power plant and the battery pack. Compare to energy loss from transportation and distribution of petroleum and gasoline. Who knows what that is? I’ve seen significantly different estimates. But whatever it is, add in the unaccounted-for energy loss from you driving your car to the gas station and back.

            2. I have never, ever seen a properly done comparison of energy efficiency between gasmobiles and EVs. The amount of energy used to refine the gasoline is not reported by oil companies, and is routinely underestimated or even ignored in such comparisons.

            3. Another reason why even the most apparently authoritative comparisons of energy efficiency between gasmobiles and EVs are inaccurate is that, for power from the grid, nobody ever stops to consider just what efficiency is actually being compared. For example, the EIA (U.S. Energy Information Agency)’s efficiency ratings for nuclear power plants treat them as having the same efficiency as coal-fired plants, because both use heat to generate steam to run a turbine.

            But no fossil fuel at all is used to heat the boiler in a nuclear power plant, and no CO2 or other greenhouse gasses are emitted!** When comparing the energy efficiency of gasmobiles to EVs, what we’re really concerned about is the use of fossil fuels and generation of greenhouse gases. On that basis, nuclear power plants should be rated as 100% efficient and 0% polluting!

            **Technically the water vapor emitted by a nuclear power plant’s cooling tower is a “greenhouse gas”, but it’s an extremely short-lived one, and certainly has no long-term effect on climate.

            4. Gasmobiles lose efficiency in very cold weather, too. That is, the MPG rating drops quite noticeably.

            1. Aaron says:

              The number I see the most regarding how much electricity is needed to refine one gallon of gasoline is 4.6kWh. I’ve seen a lot higher, but only a little lower.

              With 4.6kWh of electricity, my LEAF can travel over 20 miles.

              Transportation of fuel is a big deal, too, but I can’t find figures either. This also doesn’t include wear and tear on the roadways from the big tanker trucks.

              1. SparkEV says:

                The problem with that argument is you’re only looking at energy lost in refining while ignoring the energy lost in making electricity. Gasbags claim electricity generation + distribution is only 25% and 80% efficiency in charging + driving, net is worse than gas cars. They do the opposite of what you did: ignore gasoline’s loss before getting to the gas tank.

                This is really messy, and hard to argue. To what extent do you go? For gasoline, you have all sorts of subsides, one of which is global war that is keeping oil prices relatively stable. How much value do you put on human life?

                That’s why I argue from price perspective. It’s the easiest, most concrete, and it affects the bottom line which is the only meaningful thing for most people.

              2. sveno says:

                That 4,6kWh is seems almost like a random number as petrol and diesel are only some of the products that a refinery makes. Also that crude comes from many different sources. SparkEV also makes great points.

                Compare that to a power plant that has a very steady output and a very steady supply.

          6. SparkEV says:

            Tom, cold is only temporary loss of range. Too hot means permanent loss. That’s why hot is a bigger problem.

            As for too cold, best would be to have fossil fuel heater to warm the cabin and the battery, because heating is what FF does best. Unfortunately, this isn’t going to happen.

          7. Knut Erik Ballestad says:

            Hi Tom.

            I regularly drive a Nissan Leaf 2013 (no winter package) in temperatures as low as -5F. Last winter even -10F.

            The cabin is heated with a heat pump that works fine at -5F, but at -10F only the resistance heater works. So at down to -5F you are fine, but it is harder to keep the cabin fully heated below that. At below -5F the defroster also is not fully as good as in my Audi 80, but down to that level I see no difference.

            If I use the timer to top the battery charge at departure time, as well as pre-heat the cabin while connected, I even don’t need the battery heater from the winter package (uses 0.1kW to keep the battery lukewarm).
            – With a pre-heated battery+cabin, I get 65-70 miles of range at -5F
            – But if I park the car un-connected the range drops to 40-45 miles because of the cold battery. This is because of the missing battery heater in my car.

            In a normal summer day at +70F, I get 80+ miles from my 84 miles rated Leaf.

            Also, at -5F the battery charges significantly slower than normal, and if the battery is as cold as the outside temp, the charging speed is halved.

            —–

            But, the big difference from what you refer to as results of extreme battery heating, is that no permanent change/damage is done to the battery in cold conditions. As soon as the battery is warm again, it functions as before.

        7. Amy Manheim says:

          Why not just buy a Chevy Bolt? Nicer car.

      2. Leaf Owner Driver says:

        To me at least, the grill indicates they are going with air cooling still, but perhaps making it a little more active (perhaps using AC to blow cool air on batteries). I think the range loss would be minimal if they did that.

    2. mx says:

      What we see is the problem if a Traditional ICE maker building an EV.

      INSUFFICIENT INVESTMENT.

      Why?
      Because as an ICE maker they have shareholders, who don’t have the vision of an EV marketplace. They only car about standard regular profits and dividend payments.

      You can’t make the Large Investment necessary because you’re held back by the dumbest large investor in your pool, who will bitch and complain about the money spent.

    3. Anderlan says:

      Seriously. Switching between my leaf and prius, I love the prius shifter closer to the steering wheel. Keeps kids hands away from it, too.

    4. Courtney Vegan says:

      I think I will save for Tesla model 3.i can’t believe Nissan can’t even do better than the bolt in range numbers. Let’s hope it’s just a rumour,and the leaf 2.0 can match model 3 and bolt.

    5. Kapil says:

      Nissan has done with leaf. They can’t innovate more. This one even looking uglier than Bolt forget to get close to Model 3.

    6. Kapil says:

      Agree with these images its confirmed that Nissan will eventually loose EV business. Bolt looks better inside than Leaf and forget they getting close to Model 3.

    7. Nero says:

      If you want to see full interior of it – find the video where Leafs been tested in autonomous mode in London. Exterior is still gen 1.5, but interior from New coming Leaf already

  2. Tim Miser says:

    I would have liked to see more change to the interior but still one thousand times better than the M3 interior.

    1. CDAVIS says:

      Tim Miser said: “…one thousand times better than the M3 interior…”
      ——

      I was thinking the opposite.

      The Tesla Model 3 interior is a clean minamilistic bold statement representing the future… unhinderd by legacy constructs.

      The 2018 Nissan Leaf interior seems stuck to the same old generic “safe” consumer expectations: small info screen…hard dials…hard switches…grill vents…is that a CD player slot I see in the photo?

      1. Mark.ca says:

        Same here….i like M3 interior better but still this new leaf is a much needed improvement especially on the outside design. This car will do very well.

      2. Jasmin says:

        THe M3 interior might be “disruptive” or whatever the buzzword of the day is, but it is also woefully impractical. A massive landscape format screen in the centre console is both intrusive and downright dangerous. The driver needs information close to their line of sight of the road, looking down and away from the centreline is the worst place to put it. Also a large screen with an over abundance of info is a big recipe for distractions, not to mention reflections. Simple, clear analogue dials located directly in front of the driver provide the least distraction from the road.

        1. Davek says:

          +1, Jasmin 🙂

          I’m all for change if it actually represents an improvement. The TM3 interior is an improvement in terms of manufacturing costs and upgradeability, but for some things, like finding a control without having to take your eyes off the road and dig through layers of menus, the traditional solution has ended up that way because it works!

          I like the new Leaf interior. The screen is big enough for my tastes, there are physical buttons for important functions, vents that you can aim where you want… All in all it looks pretty tidy (almost German?), IMO.

          I’m just hoping for CCS, however futile that is. I feel like Chademo is on its way out in Europe, and unless someone makes an adapter a Chademo car is going to be at a disadvantage pretty soon here. Thoughts?

          1. Derek says:

            Agreed 100%, it’s funny because I tend to be a let-the-market-decide capitalist but in this case we really need a DC charging standard and fast.

        2. Dyna says:

          All I see when I look at that Leaf center console is tons of wasted space. What a missed opportunity. I say that as a current Leaf owner.

        3. Jim Bo says:

          Agreed, M3 dash is so lacking in function. What’s the statement? “We don’t care”

          1. floydboy says:

            Since we don’t yet know its level of function, we’ll just say its lacking in clutter.

      3. DL says:

        That’s what the guy who designed the first digital wristwatch said; and look where that got them.

      4. jim says:

        I noticed that too. Who stills play CDs in the car. What a waste.

      5. EndResult says:

        What you mean to say is – spars and low cost to MFG. There is nothing “bold” about the design.

    2. Toni says:

      Please, at least look at the images before commenting 😀

      1. Mo says:

        What are you on, M3 interior sooo much better. Clean, minimal, love it.

        1. Confused says:

          Yes, no controls to touch. That will be great in many years when you can finally not pay attention as your car drives itself.

    3. Shane says:

      I agree. The M3 interior puts it squarely in “wierdmobile” category. This new Leaf, thankfully, looks like a car I can drive in public.

      Both Leaf and Model S are available for rental. The M3 is so different that it will never become a common rental car. Imagine the Hertz rep trying to explain where to find the turn signal indicator…

      1. F150 Brian says:

        +1

        The leaf interior follows what the public is comfortable with. It can be changed every 4-5 years to migrate with customer preferences.

        There is no point to having “fully self driving” as a consideration in a production vehicle today.

        Knobs and buttons are earier to us with winter gloves on.

        Voice recognition is not ready to be the primary interface. Google is getting close, and one day it will work.

  3. VazzedUp says:

    “we still aren’t sure what to make of what appears to be a false grill up front below the new charging port”
    Confused, I don’t see a false grill, just a bigger charging port, which is evident in the above close up shots. Hood, Charge Port door and bumper, no grill visible.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      It’s a bit hard to see, here is a blow-up of the area above the grill with the port:

      It is easier to recognize in the early “trash bag” spyshots (added that gallery above, and some IDS)

      1. Gene says:

        I don’t think it’s a grill: he black covering is meant to *look* like a grill for disguise purposes.

        1. Jay Cole says:

          Appears (at least to us…who knows for sure), that it is a faux grill to fit with the rest of Nissan’s lineup, and to keep form with the earlier IDS Concept.

          1. William says:

            Early IDS Concept, too good to be true, like most concepts. At least, they gave it a half hearted effort, for the sake of trying.

  4. Matt says:

    The new placement of the power button is highly bizarre. Really looks like you have to lean forward/down a bit to reach it, which will be inconvenient.

    1. AlphaEdge says:

      Terrible.

      You should rest back, and when you want to press the button, it should see your intention and extend itself to reach your finger.

      1. William says:

        Yeah, like the Tesla charging snake, but with telepathy and in reverse! Now that is Nissan “innovation that excites”!

  5. DJ says:

    Hey, a speedometer. Who woulda thunk???

    Definitely looks nicer. I do wonder though why do so many manufacturers have a display that jets out a bit? The Model 3 is ridiculous that way but MB seems big on it as well. Why can’t they embed it in the dash so that it looks smooth and like it was designed to be there instead of “oh crap, everyone else has a screen so we better put one in”?

    1. John says:

      It’s easier to replace?

    2. Jason says:

      If it is like the current Leaf then you can tilt the panel to suit your reach and height. That is what it looks like to me. If you don’t tilt it then it is “flush” with the dash.

      1. DJ says:

        Maybe that’s it? It doesn’t look flush in any way based on this picture (below) but I guess it would be nice to be able to tilt. Although admittedly I’ve never really felt the need to on the ones I’ve had before.

    3. Davek says:

      I think it probably makes it easier to integrate differently sized screens for different trim levels. If it’s integrated into the dash (which I prefer, for the record) you end up having a huge ugly bezel around the tiny screen on down-spec models (which does suck). On the other hand, the Base i3 has a free standing screen AND a huge ugly bezel… No idea about the thinking behind that.

  6. Mikael says:

    The exterior seems to look fairly good. Not so weird anymore.
    The interior looks pretty dated, like a traditional Nissan. But okay and better than the last Leaf interior.

    But what the f**k is up with the lousy range? Any indication on when in 2018 the real battery comes? If it is like january or december? 2018 model or 2019 model?

    1. Toni says:

      You can still see the dorky shape of the passenger cell. It is literally just a “pretty” new face and butt on the same mis-shaped and badly proportioned body. It doesn’t look good at all!

      1. Stephen Hodges says:

        Thank you for saying that… I’ve been wondering why there’s all the praise for the styling. Not an improvement in my eyes, mainly because the front and rear now don’t match the middle. If I have a front and rear ender I could have a go myself on a restyle, and I don’t think I would do worse.

  7. Gene says:

    Happy to see knobs instead of up & down buttons. And that blue switch near the shifter may be for the parking brake?

  8. jelloslug says:

    It still looks like a heavy refresh and not a new car. The doors are still the same as the old one with possibly a new skin on the rear one.

    1. gensan says:

      I agree. Nissan’s aim is probably to sell their new EV much cheaper than BOLT & M3. By heavily carrying over the 1st gen’s chassis, body, etc.

      In Japan, Nissan has started showing information to their dealership. Some rumors indicate that the 2nd gen would be 20%-30% more energy efficient than the 1st gen.

      1. gensan says:

        If the rumor of 30% more efficient is true, LEAF 2 would get 180 EPA miles with 40 kWh at a few thousand cheaper price tag.

        The heavy carry-over could make LEAF2 much cheaper and affordable EV.

      2. unlucky says:

        Than the 1st gen or the 1.5 gen?

        There’s a 15% difference between those two already.

        http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=32154&id=33558&id=34699

        30% more than a gen 1 wouldn’t be nearly as impressive as 30% more than a gen 1.5.

        Note the weirdness with dropping efficiency in 2014 but greatly increased range. The only real difference between the two is that the 2013 is measured when charing only to 90% SoC while the 2014 is measured to 100%. Any efficiency difference between the two is due to energy lost due to less efficient charging in that last 10%.

        1. gensan says:

          Ioniq is 20+% more energy efficient than gen 1.5 Leaf.

          30% could be achievable by Nissan who has been investing much money than anyone else for EV power train.

    2. gensan says:

      New technologies for 2nd gen LEAF. There very is impressing 1/4 sized Power Controller including inverter, chargers, DC-DC, cooling system.

    3. gensan says:

      Around 1:50 in the YouTube video above.

      The PCS #1 is probably the one being used in 2nd gen LEAF. It is very neat!

    4. gensan says:

      Size comparison of 1st gen / 2nd gen PCS’s

      1. AlphaEdge says:

        That does not show a size comparison, but the video at 1:51 does.

        It says the PCS module (4 in 1 unit, INVERTER, DC/DC, OBC??, charger) went from 22.8L to 17.2L in volume (size), and went from a 3.3KW charger to 6.6KW charger, and also DCDC from 120A to 180A.

        1. gensan says:

          The clear box surrounding the PCS #1 prototype is the one under the LEAF’s hood.

        2. gensan says:

          The PCS #2 is for future products. LEAF 2 would likely use PCS #1.

        3. Ken says:

          Current old Leaf already has 6.6kW charger onboard so the PSC #! and #2 don’t corresponde to old and next gen inverters.

          1. gensan says:

            The original article written in Japanese clearly indicates that PCS #1 aims to LEAF 2. The company Calsonic Kansei is one of the biggest Nissan’s child companies and in fact they are the supplier for LEAF 1/1.5’s inverter.

  9. bro1999 says:

    So this looks like a major refresh and not a complete redesign. Disappointing.

  10. Andrew says:

    I think I see an electronic parking brake next to the eco button 🙂

    Also excited about possibly more cargo room.

  11. Benz says:

    Exterior will be an improvement anyway.

    All will depend on the energy storage capacity of the battery pack.

    Will it be 60 kWh, just like the Chevrolet Bolt EV?

  12. Leaf says:

    Low $30s for 150 miles range would have been exciting in 2016.

    Nissan definitely gonna lose over bolt and tesla model 3, both just cost just few $k more. Maybe Nissan will offer bigger discounts to offset less attractive range.

    Anyway, why no updates yet. Tesla is all over the internet.

    1. Jelloslug says:

      This is the car that Nissan should have come out with in 2015.

    2. Counter-Strike Cat says:

      Tesla Model 3 is ugly junk.

      1. jelloslug says:

        Said nobody every.

  13. Toni says:

    And suddenly, the Tesla 3’s lack of an instrument cluster doesn’t seem to be that much of a turn off any longer. 😀

    1. DJ says:

      Say what?

      1. Mark.ca says:

        He is saying that the 90’s want their dash back… @ leaf2.

        1. R.S says:

          But it has two screens! Something only 70k+ EVs should have!

          (JK, I personally like the M3 interior, but still…)

    2. William says:

      Who would’ve thunk? Oh well, let the gripes begin to trickle in!

    3. Counter-Strike Cat says:

      Tesla Model 3 is ugly junk and costs 50000 €.

      1. AlphaEdge says:

        Wut?

  14. Jason says:

    Interesting the shifter and AC looks the same. Hope they fix the AC issues so you can use the fan without having the AC on, at least the 2012 I drive would get a lot more range if I could run the fan only, would have thought it would be a software fix, but obviously not I guess.

    The Power button is in a stupid spot, the current Leaf has it in just about the perfect position. Why muck around with the things that just work well.

    So that whole centre console just doesn’t do it for me. We are in 2017, soon to be 2018. Bigger screens is what we want, with Android and Apple connectivity to show maps, etc. Given much of the rest of the console is the same, this new console just looks 1990’s to me. Guess it could be better in the flesh.

    I can understand changing the exterior because many people just didn’t like it, but the position of the Speedo above the steering wheel was genius. Not going to like this move to put it back behind the wheel. Would have preferred the current layout, but put SoC where the useless trees are, and just one clock integrated with the whole system please, not two clocks that both run from different time sources, just stupid and lazy IMO.

    I think Nissan made one mistake with the shifter, they stayed traditional. The natural thinking with this design of shifter is to push it forward to go forward and pull it back to go back. I wish they actually had a UI expert and did some modelling on this, I think it could be so much more intuitive.

    But, you know, it is ICE manufacturer building next gen EV, can’t really expect too much because they really are stuck in a particular way of thinking.

    1. James P Heartney says:

      “I think Nissan made one mistake with the shifter, they stayed traditional. The natural thinking with this design of shifter is to push it forward to go forward and pull it back to go back. I wish they actually had a UI expert and did some modelling on this”

      I’ve long thought the same thing. You get used to it quickly enough, but it’s weird. It’d be so much simpler to just have four buttons (F, R, N, P)

      1. Asak says:

        I agree about the shifter, it’s very unintuitive. If they’re going to go this way instead of having a standard pull down shfter, they might as well have made it so forward went forward. Oh well.

    2. Murrysville EV says:

      I had a 12 Leaf, and had forgotten about the dumb double clock thing.

      As a Model 3 reservist, I’m not thrilled with its missing dash arrangement, but this Leaf’s dash isn’t any improvement over the 12 Leaf I had.

    3. darth says:

      My 2015 can run the fan without the AC. Just hit off then hit the fan button to select the fan speed.

      1. Confused says:

        My 2013 can do that too. Now I just wish they would cool the battery. I keep losing bars.

    4. Luke Henley says:

      Hi

      I am in the UK and drive a 2014 UK Leaf. On mine it is possible to use the fan without AC Turn the unit off, then press the fan speed up button on the right (on an RHD car – it might be reversed on a LHD one) and the fan will come on without heat or AC. Then press the mode button to direct airflow between dash and footwell. To get airflow on the screen, use the demist button.

  15. Someone out there says:

    The navigation thingie looks a bit out of place and has quite a small screen, otherwise the interior looks just fine so far.
    The exterior looks a lot more conventional and I’m sure that will pay off. I like that the LEAF looks a bit unconventional but this look will probably sell more cars.

    1. Brave Lil' Toaster says:

      My wife this morning:

      “They’re getting rid of the funky headlights?! I *liked* the old headlights! It made my car look like an alien!”

      So… not everyone hates the old design. 😉

  16. David Murray says:

    I gotta say… I like the old Leaf interior design better. I really don’t know what they were thinking here.

    1. CLIVE says:

      I agree.

      I wonder if they will add a glass moon roof option…

      1. Confused says:

        Too heavy and expensive. They need Android Auto support too.

    2. Bret says:

      Me too David.

      The new dash looks big and clunky compared to my 2016. The radio / Nav unit sticks out of the dash, instead of being sleek and integrated.

  17. Bret says:

    It does look like a refresh and not a new model. The roof and window lines are exactly the same. I’ll bet it even has the same old 107 BHP motor. I do like the new front and back way better than my frog-faced 2016 SL, but I like my old dash better.

    This is a huge disappointment from Nissan after six years. I think they should have done this refresh a couple of years ago and offered a 40K battery. They would be selling way more than a 1,000 LEAFs per month.

    Unless the new LEAF is super-cheap or there is some magic I can’t see, I don’t consider this a serious competitor to either the Bolt or the Model 3.

  18. hpver says:

    Looks more like a major refresh than a total redesign. Not bad, but likely not enough.

    It will need to have 200 miles of range and good battery thermal management right out of the gate to compete. It’s not looking hopeful on either of those scores.

    We’re using our Spark EV in the current heatwave hitting the western U.S.A. It kicks on cooling automatically to cool the battery when you’re driving and when plugged in. This is the kind of thing Nissan needs to have. I fear they won’t.

  19. Murrysville EV says:

    Who will actually buy this car?

    1. First-time EV buyers who don’t trust Tesla or GM.
    2. People who don’t want to wait for the Model 3.
    3. Deal seekers.
    4. Nissan fans.

    Everyone else will buy the Bolt EV or Model 3.

    Nissan will lose most of its Leaf 1.0 base to GM or Tesla EVs, or to traditional hybrids or ICEs after their leases expire. Right now, I’m driving a minivan until the Model 3 is available. Maybe Nissan will win a few buyers lured by cash on the hood.

    The 2018 Leaf has no interest to me.

    1. Davek says:

      5. Europeans that can’t get their hands on one of the 15 Ampera-e’s that’ll get imported.
      6. People who value practicality in a car (such as having a proper hatchback that you can fit things through) and thus don’t want a TM3.
      7. People who are just a little bit disappointed with the Ioniq’s current range.

      1. Shane says:

        8. People who want a few bells and whistles and don’t want to pay $50k (TM3).
        9. People who have a vehicle to trade.
        10. People who live more than 50 miles from the nearest Tesla Service Center.

  20. David Galvan says:

    Would love to get this vehicle. My own 2016 Leaf is being bought back by Nissan under lemon law (it has a problem where power cuts out and it auto-shifts into neutral, requiring the driver to coast to a stop and then turn the vehicle off then on). And I’m going to need a new car within this month.

    Wish there were a way I could wait until end of year to replace, but I don’t think there is. Trying to get a Hyundai Ioniq electric, but even that one is hard to find.

    1. alohart says:

      Buy a cheap used EV to tide you over until something that you really want is available.

  21. James says:

    Looks like Nissan is giving us a big bag of nothing. Not cancelling my Model 3 for that. Yuck. Bolt is better looking, has bigger screen.

    1. William says:

      That Nissan “bag of nothing”, maybe will come with something, but September may be a bridge too far for many, to want to find out what is in the Nissan grab bag. Advantage Tesla.

      1. Confused says:

        Why? Most will not be able to by a M3 until well after the Leaf is on lots and being discounted.

        1. William says:

          Good point, but I was thinking the Tesla faithful would be willing to suck it up a little longer, in hopes of getting their mitts on one of the first 500k Model 3s, to roll out of Fremont.

  22. Lawrence says:

    My eGolf’s lease is up at the end of this year and there’s nothing about this car that makes me choose it over the Bolt which is at the top of my list. It looks like a refresh of the old car so the proportions problem is still there. Then there’s still the battery issue that they might have or have not resolved. Styling might have tipped the balance for me, but that that’s not there. So nothing compelling at all.

  23. Dyna says:

    Looks like the Leaf will remain a great value… as long as you buy it used.

  24. leafowner says:

    Definitely an improvement — but no where near enough to sway Model 3 buyers. Nissan needed to step up their game — and it looks as if they fell short.

  25. Devin Serpa says:

    Wow I guess I’ll just get a Tesla.

  26. unlucky says:

    And what good is that CD slot? Who puts in CDs anymore? Or even DVDs? Even for NAV you store the map data on an SD card, they’re much more capacious than a CD or DVD.

  27. Lou Grinzo says:

    If the car looks like this (boring but acceptable), has a 150 mile range, and costs, say, $32k ($23k in my state post tax breaks), then I’ve found the replacement for my 2013 Leaf. Depending on the price delta, I might go for the 60kWh version.

    I need the cargo utility of a hatch, and I have no Tesla facilities within reasonable distance. Plus I have a large, local Nissan dealer where my wife and I have bought two vehicles so far, and we’re very happy with their sales and service. Those real world issues tip the scales enough that the Bolt isn’t a serious contender for me.

    While not thrilled with the L2, I’m definitely relieved that I’ll have a really solid, livable, and affordable BEV option.

  28. E says:

    The screen doesn’t look right – it sticks out too far and the gap looks to big and irregular (photo 3).

    Hopefully the production screen will be bigger and fit flush with the dash.

    1. E says:

      photo 8 in the gallery..

  29. One says:

    What are you all complaining about? Very nice interior. I think it’s cool it comes with an integrated laptop. It’s modern

  30. gensan says:

    Nissan’s aim might be setting a bar high for EV competitors and new comers by significantly slashing the price with a decent range.

    LEAF’s EV power train has also been used in Versa Note series hybrid variant in Japan since last November which might reach 100K units sold a year.

    1. Heavy carry-over from Leaf 1
    2. Common EV power train among multiple EV’s and series HV’s models
    3. 20%-30% more energy efficient which can make 30kWh model 140 miles and 40kWh model 180 miles.

  31. Derek says:

    I think we are seeing the 2.0 S that will feature that screen and the SV/SL HVAC controls from v1. The SV/SL 2.0 will probably have a equal or larger screen. Certainly not a complete redesign but maybe we should be happy if they kept what was working and put that money into the battery. If they found a battery chemistry that works without a complex active cooling system that would be great and I would have no issue with it.

    1. gensan says:

      We’ll see longer battery lifetime on LEAF 2.0 because of bigger capacity and better energy efficiency which would reduce lifetime # of charges.

      Even they couldn’t find a better chemistry.

  32. TS2000 says:

    The Infotainment system seems very UNimpressive!

  33. brendan says:

    Exterior looks a bit better than previous Gen…it needs to be appealing to the mass market like any “normal” vehicle as Tesla have already shown.
    Wonder when it will actually make it to Australia?

  34. Don Zenga says:

    By using a regular hatch design, they would have saved a lot of cost and they should pass this cost savings to the customers.

    Its believed to have a 38 KWh battery and so the cost should be around 30K with a range of 150 miles. Anything more than that price will push customers towards Model-3

  35. Jason says:

    I saw one of these camo 2018 Leafs coming down from the Sierras on Highway 50 yesterday. It looks A LOT nicer and less bulbous in person. Small bluish LED headlights. As one of the first 2011 Leaf owners, I think this looks like an attractive car — much better than the original.

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