2017 Ford Focus Electric: 100+ Mile Range/33.5 kWh Battery, C-Max Energi Gets Refresh Too

1 year ago by Jay Cole 103

In addition to a 33.5 kWh battery, the new 2017 Ford Focus Electric adds DC fast charging

In addition to a 33.5 kWh battery, the new 2017 Ford Focus Electric adds DC fast charging

About a million years ago (ok, it was December), Ford announced that the next model year Focus Electric would have its ranged increased to at least 100 miles/160km (EPA), and would add DC fast charging abilities.

2017 Focus Electric

2017 Focus Electric – CCS 50 kW charging now standard

Now, thanks to getting our hands on a fresh copy of the 2017 MY Ford Focus Electric spec sheet, we can tell you that Ford has followed through on that promise, and apparently then some.

The new 2017 edition of the plug-in Focus sees the battery move from 23 kWh to a 33.5 kWh liquid-cooled lithium ion battery, a 46% bump.

What does that mean for range?

We won’t know until Ford makes the new Focus Electric “officially” official (same goes for any new pricing), but considering that the 2016 model is rated by the EPA at 76 miles with a 23 kWh battery, a similar percentage bump on the 2017’s 33.5 kWh battery would net about ~110 miles/177 km of range.

That type of range would put the 2017 Focus roughly on par with the 2017 Hyundai Ioniq Electric (also ~110 miles of range – details), and the 2016 Nissan LEAF (SV/SL – rated at 107 miles), at least for a little while, as the LEAF itself is heading for a major upgrade shortly.

Also arriving as promised for the Focus Electric – DC fast charging (of the CCS variety) up to 50 kW. The Focus EV is expected to arrive in late December.

Other changes are slight for the model:

  • 17” Sparkle Silver Painted Aluminum Wheels replace the standard 17″ Aluminum Wheels
  • New exterior color: White Gold (GN)

The 2017 Ford C-Max Energi in new "SE" trim gets a slightly refreshed look for North America

The 2017 Ford C-Max Energi in new “SE” trim gets a slightly refreshed look for North America

Also of interest:  Some new details on the 2017 Ford C-Max Energi were also netted via that car’s spec sheet;  and it appears to be getting some changes not dis-similar to the 2016 Fusion Energi in the US.

The standard “SEL” trim is out, and in its place a new base “SE” level and more premium “Titanium” level.  We expect the SE model to net a lower entry MSRP, while the tech-laden Titanium model will move upscale.

The C-Max Energi overall gets a slight refresh when 2017 production stars in November, but not to the extent of the current/updated Euro spec, but rather an upgraded front fascia based on the current North American car’s design.

Why might this be?  Perhaps, an investment Ford North America is not willing to make.   We have long suspected that the C-Max Energi would only live long enough to see another vehicle take its place (the petrol/hybrid C-Max was an unsuccessful launch for the company in the US); and with the Ford Model E headed to production in the Spring of 2019 (as both a car and compact utility vehicle), the C-Max Energi would likely find itself obsolete in that moment.

The 2017 gets redesigned headlamps, a new grille opening and tail lamp design, as well as LED “signature” lighting.  No word yet if the model will benefit from the same “tweaking” that saw the Fusion Energi gain an extra 2 miles of all-electric range (from 19 to 21), but it wouldn’t surprise us.

Other changes for the 2017 MY Ford C-Max Energi:

  • Grille – Ebony with Chrome Surround – Standard on SE
  • Grille – Chrome with Chrome Surround – Standard on Titanium
  • New exterior color: White Gold (GN)
  • Deleted color: Tectonic
  • 17″ Bright Silver Finish Painted Aluminum – Standard on SE
  • 17” Machined-Aluminum with High Contrast Painted Pockets – Standard on Titanium
We had expected to see the 2017 MY C-Max to take on the look of its Euro-brother (seen here in petrol form)

We had expected to see the 2017 MY C-Max to take on the look of its Euro-brother (seen here in petrol form), but that is not the case, as the model keeps a distinctive look for North America

DRIVER ASSIST TECHNOLOGY (new section for 17MY)

— SYNC® – Standard on SE

  • Enhanced Voice Recognition Communication and Entertainment System
  • 911 Assist®
  • 4.2” LCD Screen in Center Stack
  • AppLinkTM
  • Smart-Charging USB port – one (1)

PACKAGES (New)

— SE Driver Assist Package (401A)

  • Power Liftgate
  • Reverse Sensing System
  • SYNC® 3 – Enhanced Voice Recognition
  • Communications and Entertainment System. Includes 8” LCD Capacitive Touchscreen in Center Stack with Swipe Capabilities, AppLinkTM, 911 Assist® and Two Smart-Charging USB ports – Note: SYNC® AppLinkTM lets you control some of your favorite compatible mobile apps with your voice. It is compatible with select smartphone platforms. Commands may vary by phone and AppLinkTM software. Note: Pinch-to-zoom capability included with available Voice-Activated Navigation System

— SE Comfort Package (402A)

  • Mirrors, Sideview – Heated & Security Approach
  • Seats – Heated Front & Leather-trimmed with 10-way Power Passenger

— Titanium Driver Assist Package (501A)

  • Active Park Assist
  • BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross-traffic Alert
  • Forward Sensing System
  • Hands-free Liftgate
  • Power Liftgate

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  • Premium Audio & Navigation Package
  • Hands-free Technology Package
  • Parking Technology Package

Big hat Tip to Alan!

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103 responses to "2017 Ford Focus Electric: 100+ Mile Range/33.5 kWh Battery, C-Max Energi Gets Refresh Too"

  1. Jerico says:

    With the Bolt just months away, I would say to Ford: make a 200-mile car or don’t bother.

    1. Sublime says:

      A 100 miles short on range and still no trunk I assume. Good job Ford!

      1. Assaf Oron says:

        110 miles with climate-controlled battery and quick-charge is pretty darn decent.

        Would likely fit the needs of >90% of families on 99% of days.

        Lack of trunk space, that could be a bummer on the family front.

        But the main question is quantity. Will the FFE continue to be “handmade to order”, which is only a hair better than “compliance”?

        1. mx9000 says:

          I’d say 90% of singles and couples with no kids or young kids. You can’t get adults into that back seat.

          1. Mike I. says:

            The back seat is actually fine. The reason I didn’t buy one in 2012 was that I could not use the car to pick up my parents at the airport. They are retired and if I had to pick them up from a one or two week cruise, their luggage definitely would not have fit. I ended up getting a 2012 RAV4 EV and don’t regret it one bit. It has more range than this 2017 Focus and way more cargo space than any other option below $60k. Even our 2015 e-Golf has more cargo space than the Focus.

        2. JH says:

          The fine for 95% of people (or variant thereof) simply doesn’t stand. If you want to sell your car you have to have the long range alternative and dc charging. The market has been overwhelmingly clear on this. Anecdotally I am for instance in the the crowd that for 99% would be covered by this machine. I still wouldn’t buy it s it short on range for those rare occasions where it matters. In my case i will keep my diesel burner until the model 3 is out. I am not alone in this it seems.

          So ford; this will be a non starter, to little, way, way, to late. And I build that statement on actual market figures with real customers.

        3. Unplugged says:

          I leased a Focus Electric. There is no problem with adults sitting in the back seat. I don’t know where your info is coming from. As for luggage or cargo capacity, most people don’t realize the “organizer” is removable and this allows plenty of room. Nearly the same as the Leaf, as far as I’m concerned.

    2. SparkEV says:

      Except let’s wait for the pricing. If it’s $10K cheaper than 200 miles range EV, it’s well worth it since most people won’t drive 100+ miles a day.

      Far better news is DCFC on Ford. Longer distances are covered with DCFC; 1.5 hours of driving and 30 minutes of rest is perfectly acceptable for many people.

      1. Assaf says:

        +1 from me, Sparky

        Happy Friday 🙂

      2. jerry dycus says:

        Spark, it’ll need to be
        $10k cheaper if they want to sell any at all when 150-200 mile EVs become the standard.

    3. The big unknown(s) … price and availability.

      We need to see Focus, and/or Bolt available in 35+ states with an MSRP under $35,000 selling at least 1000 units per month for these vehicles to be competitive EVs.

      The technologies is here today, but can production and sales/marketing teams deliver?

    4. mx9000 says:

      I guess you’re right, the Bolt makes this OBSOLETE instantly.

      Poor battery range, esp. the CMAX.
      -No Automatic Cruise Control
      -No Automatic Collision Prevention.

    5. mx9000 says:

      The Market has also said why bother.
      Ford’s P/E, Price to Earning ratio is 5.6. In other words the Market don’t think Ford has a future past 5 years.

      So, you wonder where that money went? Tesla closed at $225 a share of Friday. The market thinks Tesla is the future.

      Now, Exxon is funding a lot of short loud mouth idiots, but that’s not effecting the market. The market has Bought Tesla and voted No Confidence in Ford.

  2. mx9000 says:

    CMax Energi get’s a refresh, but there’s no battery upgrade??? Can that possibly be true?

    1. Mike Hunt says:

      Seriously, this would be a practical car if it had a trunk. A wagon with that small of trunk space is a deal killer.

      1. David Murray says:

        It’s really not as bad as it looks. It still has more cargo space than a Volt. It’s all in the way it appears.

        1. Tedfredrick says:

          I have both volt and focus andithe volt has way more cargo space

          1. Texas FFE says:

            I don’t know much about the Volt but I do have both a Fusion Energi and a Focus Electric. The Fusion is a much bigger car but the cargo space of the Focus is much more configurable and I can haul much more cargo with it. It takes the kind of time that only comes with ownership to really figure out the cargo space of the Focus and I get the feeling you really haven’t spent much time with the Focus.

            1. I agree that the Focus, with quick drop-down rear seats, has plenty of space if you don’t have to haul three or four passengers at the same time.

              I’ve carried large 10×10 popup tents, chairs, cooler, etc without any difficulty.

          2. Vin says:

            I’ve had both the Focus Electric and the Volt, and the Focus Electric has way more cargo space.

      2. EV AZ says:

        Right, C-Max Energy has minimal cargo space.

        I would think that the refresh they would have put the batteries under the floorboards.

        RAV4 EV
        5 Kw PV

        1. Spoonman. says:

          It really doesn’t. I just drove my family from PA to MA in ours and we had no problem fitting our stuff.

          Our last car was a Fit, so we like cargo space.

      3. Dathomir says:

        When you say “wagon”, I assume you’re referring to the C-Max Energi. Not sure what you’re hauling on a daily basis that won’t fit in the back of the hatchback, unless it’s planks of wood. In my C-Max Energi, I’ve fit my 2yr old, wife and picked up her best friend from the airport and she had two medium to large sized suitcases and I roller carry-on! That was only one example, we have taken many road trips without a hitch and have fit everything in our C-Max and yet still have visibility out the rear.

        C-Max is not for everyone and that’s ok, but to throw out bs no cargo space excuses without examples of what you are hauling on a daily basis, you lose any credibility.

        1. Bill Guiffre says:

          I agree David. I am totally happy with the cargo space of my C-Max Energi (which is way more fun to drive than the two Prius’ I owned. Only bummer is I can’t sleep in the Energi due to the stepped rear space.

          Drop the batteries down and I will be happy.

    2. TX NRG says:

      The Energis share the same battery & power train. The 2017 Fusion Energi refresh didn’t get a revised battery pack when announced a few months ago so the 2017 C-Max wasn’t expected to either.

  3. Trollnonymous says:

    100+ miles EV?
    Damn, better late than never I guess.
    It better be significantly less then either the Bolt or Model ≡.
    Even the new LEAF will take it’s money and eat it’s lunch.

    1. skryll says:

      The chassis probably needs an aerodynamics work over, the 2015 VW eGolf gets 83 miles EPA with 24kWh battery, where the fusion got only 73 miles EPA with a 23kWh battery.. That’s 13 percent more range on only 5% bugger battery, probably due to aerodynamics and lack of heat pump ?

      1. Per “the fusion got only 73 miles EPA with a 23kWh battery” – I think you meant “the Ford Ficus Electric got only 73 miles EPA with a 23kWh battery.”

        Ain’t no Ford Fusion Energi with a 23 kWh Battery, yet!

        1. Wow! I just invented a new Ford, the ‘Ficus!’ Sorry, meant’Focus’ … Ford Focus Electric …

          1. Nix says:

            A Ford Ficus sounds like it would be a very “green” car….

    2. Texas FFE says:

      I think with the faster charging and the bigger battery, the Ford Focus Electric is going to give the Nissan Leaf a real run for its money next year. Unfortunately, with its autonomous features, I think the Hyundai Ioniq is going to outsell both the Leaf and the FFE. The Bolt of course with the longer range is going to blow them all away.

  4. Bill Howland says:

    Better late than never. One key question – what is the price increase?

      1. Jay Cole says:

        While trying to be as kind as possible to that author, that’s horse poo-poo…and maybe a bit embarassing.

        It states pre-orders for the Bolt EV were skedded for August, with deliveries in October (based on some undocumented statement in April at ACT – that we have no knowledge of, and that CleanTechnica itself reported that Bolt production would indeed start in October only days after that event)…and that based on that obscure timing on orders/delivery, timelines have slipped 3 months according to a “local dealer”.

        Thing is, that start of production has been October 2016 since we first heard word of confirmation for the Bolt 2 years ago, and GM has always repeated limited deliveries for the end of the year – which doesn’t mean your local Joe dealer will have a dozen copies for you to pick over. It means they will be shoving out a few into California (and into ride-sharing) before we ring in the New Year

        “Late”/end of year confirmations by GM has been made frequently,such as here a couple weeks ago, and here four weeks ago, and here by the CEO in June (pretend like I linked another 12 examples here – because there literally are that many under recent Bolt stories)…and of course from the mother-of-all-stages right there at the official production launch in Las Vegas. Not to mention by LG Bolt part production confirmation from yesterday.

        If anything GM has re-iterated/touted its plans to be in production this Fall and have first deliveries happen in late 206/year’s end way too much. To suggest any other timeline has been planned/expected at this point is obtuse at best.

        Looking at GM’s progress in Orion, they seem to be exactly on target…as they always have. Quite frankly, if my “local dealer” was telling me I could pick up a Bolt EV of my own in January, I would consider than a very positive sign.

          1. pjwood1 says:

            Face it, you’ve lost your Focus.

            1. Alaa says:

              We will see.

              1. ModernMarvelFan says:

                Anyone who reads Clean Technica is a “horse poo poo” lover… =)

            2. Ziv says:

              LOL!
              Alaa, I am not laughing at your response, but at pj’s double entendre. If I could communicate half as well in Spanish as you do in English, let alone my being able to make myself understood in Arabic, I would be pretty proud of myself.

              Me realizing I made an unwarranted assumption and hoping that it isn’t an irritating one…

        1. jim stack says:

          Jay, Chevy does have a fleet of 20 BOLTS drive testing in Scottsdale Arizona at Cruise Autonomous vehicles. They all have CCS Fast Charge ports. They have been here since about June 2016. So Chevy can produce at least small numbers of these by the end of 2016. getCruise.com

      2. bro1999 says:

        That source of info is dubious at best. Especially with this news having hit a few days ago: http://insideevs.com/2017-ford-focus-electric-now-with-33-5-kwh-fast-charging/?replytocom=981522#respond

        1. ClarksonCote says:

          I think you posted the wrong link. 😉

      3. JustWilliamPDX says:

        Yes yes, and the Model 3 will be a year early! Your pronouncements are always so sound and credible.

        1. Alaa says:

          Thank you/

    1. Eco says:

      Another key question – will it be sold in all states & provinces i.e. no longer a ‘compliance’ car?

      1. David Murray says:

        The Focus EV and the C-Max Energi have already been available in all 50 states for quite some time. It just happens that many dealers don’t bother to stock them.

  5. Someone out there says:

    Wow, that is a nice upgrade! I guess Texas FFE gets his day in the sun today 🙂

    This puts the older generation EVs to shame. Come on now Nissan, time to wake up!

    1. Someone out there says:

      Somehow it got in my head that this was a plugin hybrid with a 100 mile range. Apparently it’s a BEV. That’s not too impressive then.

  6. David Murray says:

    The upgrades the Focus EV are very welcomed changes. Anything over 100 miles EPA and fast charging is a very usable car with very little range anxiety. If the price is right and the vehicle is actually well stocked at dealers, it could actually sell much better than the previous model.

    The C-Max is the one I find most disappointing. It needs a battery upgrade something fierce. I’d be amazed if it didn’t also get the same boost to 21 miles as the Fusion being they share the same drive train. But seriously, both cars need a battery upgrade. 30 miles of range should be the target. Even the Prius Prime is going to have more range than the Energi twins.

  7. Terawatt says:

    Congratulations to Ford on achieving what so far only Hyundai had done before them: announce an EV that is already obsolete before it goes on sale.

    I suppose if it’s $22k before incentives somebody will buy it. But it isn’t, is it?

    1. Terawatt says:

      I guess we can say they take planned obsolescence to a new level! ?

      1. bro1999 says:

        To be fair, the revamped Focus EV is just that, a refresh. Probably costs a minimal amount in development costs to shove in the bigger battery and QC hardware.

        Not like a whole new platform like the Ioniq.

        1. Just_Chris says:

          Also, if the only want to sell 200 per month then this car is fine. IMO there are 200 customers a month who don’t need 200 miles range and will pay extra for a better looking car.

          If this upgraded version sells for $22k per month Ford would sell everyone they could make. IMO there are 2 things that need to change to see ev’s take 5+% of the market, range and price. I don’t think you need change both in 1 vehicle a $22k 33kWh car, IMO would sell better than a 60 kWh car for $37.5k. I’d love to see both, not everyone has $30+k for a car and not everyone needs 200 miles range.

          1. Eric says:

            Very well said. I often read comments here and scratch my head. Not every car is supposed to be a Model S, or even a Bolt (which I think is ugly and therefore would never consider). I’ve driven e-Golf, Soul EV, Focus Electric, and Leaf, and I enjoyed Focus the best (it wasn’t close). Also loved the hatch — popped my surfboard in the back with luggage and left town with my girlfriend. Leaf, Golf, and Soul don’t have as good a cargo setup. This model would be an excellent second car in any household — IF it comes in at the right price. P.S. on obsolescence…How many EVs on the market today cost less than $60K and offer more than 110 miles of range? Thanks.

  8. Nix says:

    I suppose this is an improvement, and I applaud Ford for at least doing something.

    But this is really just Ford finally living up to their 2010 promise of the Ford Focus EV having 100 miles of range:

    http://www.dailytech.com/Ford+Focus+Electric+to+Have+100mile+Range+Active+Liquid+Cooling+for+Battery+Pack/article19532.htm

    To be fair, every single EV maker who released plans for 100 mile range EV’s suffered from the same EPA testing demons, and none of them actually hit their 100 mile range promise. So this isn’t an anti-Ford thing, or even an anti-gas car to EV third-party (Magna) retrofit thing. It is just frustrating that it has taken so long for car makers to meet the original customer expectations they had set for their initial entry into the EV market.

  9. Andrew says:

    The nerd in me is excited to see a 46% bump in battery capacity in presumably the same packaging and weight envelopes as the cells from just five years ago.

    Battery chemistry is really moving along now. That said, this car will need a competitive price to move in any volume.

    1. Rich says:

      We’ll have to wait and see if they kept the same battery packaging. It’s possible they took what little trunk space was left and now the whole thing is filled with batteries.

      1. Mike I. says:

        They can’t fill the whole trunk with batteries – they still need a crumple zone.

  10. John says:

    As long as car companies GET STARTED, and slowly progress, we’ll get where we need to go.

    This is why I constantly defend PHEV’s as a
    Gateway Drug”

    They’ll only get better, and the excuses will go away.

    I just hope it’s in time.
    I’m worried about the world my kids/grandkids are going to grow up in.

  11. Priusmaniac says:

    Kind of cold start syndrome. The good news is that % improvement is high. Two more iterations and they will be above 200 miles too.
    At least Ford is on a better way than Fiat-Chrysler and Toyota.

  12. Perian says:

    SOP 2017 Ford Focus Electric and the 2017 C-Max is November 14, 2016. You won’t be seeing these upgraded units until late January at your local Ford dealer. By then, the Bolt should be in full production mode.

  13. The Ford Focus Electric is SO fun to drive! I have one. Granted it takes me out 35 miles max, it’s enough for most of my trips.

    1. bro1999 says:

      35 mile realistic range….hell, might as well get a Gen 1 Volt and just pretend it doesn’t have a range extender. 😉

      1. mx9000 says:

        He’s saying 35 miles out to get back, 35 miles back.

        1. And the 2017 Model FFE will take you out 90-100 Miles, take 30-45 minutes at a Quick Charger, and be on its way again!

          Now, to see the first story on getting in a 500 Mile day in a 2017 Ford Focus Electric! With a good 100 miles range car now, and quick charging, a 500 mile day would take about 2-3 Hours in Charging Time, plus about 7-8 Hours in Driving Time! If the Quick Chargers are close to Restaurants, there would be limited need for any extra stops!

          1. You need a 300 mile capacity on the battery to realistically take a car out on a long distance road trip.

            1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

              300 mile minimum? Well, you’re entitled to your opinion.

              But a lot of people seem to think the Tesla Model S85’s EPA range of 265 miles, and real-world highway range of about 210-220 miles, is entirely sufficient for long trips, so long as it’s not in bitterly cold weather.

  14. The Ford Focus Electric is more fun to drive than 99% of the cars out there. It’s always a blast once I get into the cabin. The only thing lacking – raaaaaange.

    1. scoops says:

      I absolutely beat the crap out of my FFE. The original tires only lasted 15k miles… No emissions; just tire smoke. I can push it 10/10 because it’s sooooo slow.. Got owned (bad) by a LEAF from a stop up a steep gradient. The car is super half-assed though. Can’t wait to upgrade to a real car brand.

    2. Tedfredrick says:

      Fun to drive fo shure.

  15. Ziv says:

    This would have been great news, in 2013.

    1. bro1999 says:

      Toyota and Ford are battling for “Best plug-ins of 2017 that would have been considered good in 2013”.

      1. Trollnonymous says:

        Toyota for the win!!!!!

        1. Yoda says:

          Toyota is pushing fuel cells and has no stated plans for real BEVs…

          I fail to see how they even compare…
          And to me anyone pushing the fuel cell lies are far worse than the companies that do next to nothing (like FCA)…

      2. Mike I. says:

        The funny thing is that Toyota did have a 100+ mile range, fun to drive EV in 2013. Sure, it was only sold and serviced in California and they only produced enough to get the compliance credits they needed, but they had it. Now, not so much. Only hydrogen for Toyota ZEVs now.

        At this point, Ford had to do these upgrades (battery size and DCQC) just to keep people buying the 100-200 units per month that they need to keep the ZEV credits coming in.

        1. David Peilow says:

          Toyota had a fun to drive 100 mile EV in 1996…

    2. TX NRG says:

      Yes, great news in 2013, but not in 2016, because everyone’s commutes have gotten so so much longer in the past 3 years. Sarcasm\off

      Many people will rarely need to use the top end of their EV range beyond a certain point. Similar to adding an extra 80hp to a 200hp vehicle, or an extra 50mph to the top speed of a 120mph vehicle. Nice to know it’s there but rarely if ever needed.

      1. Bro1999 says:

        In that case, you should be driving an I-miev.

  16. Adx says:

    Can you say please two word to the upgraded Leaf.
    Will it be only more battery options (for example 30 and 40) or will it be both: new battery options in combination with little exterior facelift (like I read on pusheevs from Canadian dealers).
    So upgraded packs, or upgraded Leaf? 🙂

    1. 2017 LEAF (Dreaming): Leaf S with 24 kWh at a price drop of $5,000.00; Leaf SE with 30 kWh at current price of Leaf S; Leaf SV with a 40 kWh Battery, at price of current SV [as final year of current body style!]

  17. Yoda says:

    As said above the big questions are price and avalibity…
    I was hoping they would decontent it some to further lower the price…
    And of course if they dont stock it in mass will it realy matter as what good are 50 some sales a month…
    But there should be a market for 100 mile range EVs if there is a big enough price diferential as a 10k price difference can buy an awful lot of rental car miles…

  18. ModernMarvelFan says:

    I hope Ford upgrade FFE performance.

    Just imagine how much demand will be there if the new FFE can beat the ST in 0-60mph..

    If it can beat RS, it will sell even better…

    1. Texas FFE says:

      The horsepower and torque of the FFE is actually pretty good, much more than the Nissan Leaf or the upcoming Hyundai Ioniq, but the motor controller limits acceleration. The FFE is a little pokey coming off the line but is quite spirited coming out of corners or getting up to its maximum speed of 84 mph where the power and torque are allowed to kick in. There are people talking on the Focus Electric forums about modifying the controllers so that they allows harder acceleration at lower speeds, maybe Ford will get the hint and provide a revised controller.

  19. Texas FFE says:

    Since I already own an FFE I don’t consider this FFE upgrade enough of an improvement to make me want to trade up. I am glad that Ford choose to upgrade the FFE before they came out with a completely new EV model though. There are over 6,000 Focus Electrics already on the road, including mine, and most of us FFE owners are hoping the parts for CCS charging and the larger capacity batteries will be adaptable to the older FFEs.

    I believe that one of the reasons the Ford Fusion Energi sells so well is because of its advanced autonomous features like Adaptive Cruise Control and Lane Keeping Assist. The Ford Focus has advanced autonomous features in Europe but not in the USA. If the 2017 FFE does not come out with advanced autonomous features in the USA then I think it’s going to lose significant market share to the Hyundai Ioniq which will have them.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Hey Texas FFE,

      Unfortunately it does not/will not have advanced autonomous feature. Changes (outside the battery) are minimal on the 2017 from the 2016 edition you see on lots today.

      It is likely the Model E lineup (car/crossover) in 2019 will mean the end of both the C-Max Energi and the Focus Electric in the US. That late production timing for end of this year I think screams “1 and done” to fill the gap.

      1. Mike I. says:

        Jay, what do you mean by 1 and done? The Focus Electric will have model years 2017, 2018, 2019. The Model E may be available in 2019, but will almost certainly be a 2020 model.

        1. Jay Cole says:

          I mean an extended single production run of same product starting early, and ending late to fill the gap (however you like to call it).

          The new 2016/33.5 kWh kicks up mid November for maybe late December/early 2017 deliveries, and then has a long cycle run. Ford can “call it” whatever they like, 2017, 2018, 2019…but it would be the same car.

          So instead of seeing a tradition/ongoing cycle. ie)

          June ’16 to June ’17, then upgrades/changes
          June ’17 to June ’18, then upgrades/changes
          June ’18 to June ’19, then final build out

          This run has a late 2016 start, and what I believe is happening is no stops for tooling/upgrades until it burns out in late 2018/early 2019 to maximize dollars.

          Kind of like what the initial Volt is doing..but at the end of the run.

          The Volt started production in August 2015 as a “2016 MY”. Then paused for about 15 mins on Feb 1st, while they turned on some minor features that just didn’t quite make it in time for the initial start of production (adaptive cruise/braking), added a color and called it a 2017 MY…of which, production runs through July of 2017. 2018s likely arrive in ~September 2017.

          So same extended production cycle…that goes 2 full years, over 2 MYs.

          Ford is selling this new 33.5 kWh Focus Electric the same way as the old. ie) no dealer program, you order-we build. So sales are still likely to be in the ~100-and-something per month range on average (maybe a little bump the first couple months)

          The odds that Ford is going to build a thousand or so of these as a 2017, then shut down in 6 months to retool over next summer for a 2018 model seems highly unlikely to me. By the same token, would they then extend the run another ~6 months in late 2018 (for maybe another 1,500 EVs) into 2019 for the same reason?

          Not saying any of this is fact. I’m just saying with the Model E coming out in Spring of 2019 as a 200 miler, it seems unlikely Ford would choose to have 3 separately tooled MYs of the Ford (2 shorts and a regular) just to sell ~4,000 copies. I think it is more likely that the 2017 Ford Focus Electric you see in January, will be near identical in almost every way to the very last Ford Focus Electric they ever build…whenever that happens.

  20. Dale says:

    Solid improvements where the Focus Electric needed it most. I have a C-Max Energi with just a 20-mile range and average 96% of my miles in EV mode, so I think this would work for many people, especially if it undercuts the Bolt by enough price-wise to cover an occasional car rental for trips.

  21. Just_Chris says:

    I’ve been thinking about this upgrade and the wider ev market. In 12 months time we’ll have leaf 2 and bolt. Both of these will be under $40k. You’ll also have the i3 33 kWh Rex at around $45k? So what does that mean for the 33 kWh’s, focus, e-golf, ionq, soul, etc? My hope is some pretty big price cuts, I wonder if we’ll see lower trim levels of 24 kWh models coming in at the $20k mark? Hopefully we won’t just see the same prices as we do now but with the cars having bigger batteries. My feeling is that will only lead to modest growth probably mainly at the expense of PHEV’s which really isn’t that much progress.

  22. Alex says:

    The 36 kWh e-Golf and the 40 kWh Leaf are just around the corner, but 34 kWh Ford is better and than a 28 kWh Hyundai. And the i3 with 33 kWh goes as far as a bigger EV with 36-38 kWh, so its funny that Kia Hyundai have the smallest batteries, but they are sitting on the source (LG Chem). That shows there 0 % interest in EVs sales.

    1. The 36kWh Mercedes B-Class ED / B250e (28 or 31.5kWh usable) has been on the market for several years, both in US and EU. They aren’t exactly setting sales records.

      The 2012 through 2014 Toyota RAV4 EV with a 45kWh battery (41.8 kWh usable) required $17,500 discounts and unlimited mileage leases just to get them out the door.

      My point is that these 100 plus mile range cars have been around for years.

    2. gee.em says:

      The Ioniq has a usable capacity of 28kwh. That’s similar with the i3, which has a usable capacity of 29 kwh. Hyundai/Kia is one of the few manufacturers that fair to specify the usable battery capacity and not gross capacity. Even the Leaf has 30 kwh gross capacity. Nissan did not mention the usable capacity. It should be around 27/28 kwh. The eGolf is excepted with a usable battery capycity of about 30-32 kwh (gross capacity about 36 kwh).

  23. It all comes down to price, which Ford has managed to limbo at the dealer despite an unrealistic MSRP. If the Focus’s MSRP is $8,000 – $10,000 less than the Bolt, it will find an audience. If not, they’ll discount it at the dealer until it sells. I expect that to be $8,000 – $10,000.

    With California, Colorado and other state rebates, and maybe an employer incentive (Google, BofA, several utilities, etc) and federal tax credit, this car would be less than $10k.

    If you live in the San Joaquin Valley (and a few other regions with dangerous air) and work for an employer that offers incentives, and you get one of the EVs that is offered at $8k off MSRP, you could buy a brand new $30k car for about $5,000.

    Add in fuel cost savings and the car is absolutely free in 33 months (compared to driving a gasoline car with $200 month fuel bill).

    If you’re feeling envious about people in SJV getting an extra $3k off their zero emission car, don’t. Worst air in the nation. More deaths attributed to bad air than automobile accidents. I was in the Central Valley a few days ago and when I saw the sunrise I thought I was in a post-apocalyptic scenario.

    1. QCO says:

      Excellent point. One that needs to be better articulated to the anti-incentive crowd.

  24. Jim Stack says:

    It’s about time. Now if they could make the Air Cond/Heater an efficient Heat Pump and clear the battery hump in the back they would be doing good. Then sell them all over the USA.
    I had a 2013 FOCUS EV and the batteries didn’t loos any capacity at all after 3 HOT summers in Arizona and 30K miles. A very good battery system.

  25. Bloggin says:

    I expect the 2017 FFE to maintain it’s $29k price point, while gaining a larger 33.5kWh battery pack + CCS….why?

    Because Ford has not spend any dollars to upgrade the vehicle for 4 years, and we have had a $4k to $6k price cut bi-annually, and 2017 is time for another price cut. A 9.5kWh battery pack increase + CCS balance out to a more FFE and still offer a slight price cut.

    This would put the well equipped 2017 FFE at $25k – $29k while a comparably equipped 30kWh Leaf and $34k – 36k and 30kWh base 3 at $43k.

    Ford needs to get some momentum going with the FFE, because the new Model E branded vehicles come in 2018/MY2019, and Ford needs to start earning some EV credibility.

    NOTE: Ford deleted the cargo management system from the FFE(offered to help deal with the pack taking up cargo space). With a larger battery pack plus CCS hardware, and now now need for a cargo system, hopefully Ford found a better way to package the battery pack. Ford knows this is a big drawback for the FFE and has had plenty of time to sort this out.

    1. David Murray says:

      I do not expect Ford to lower the price lower than the current Nissan Leaf. I’m quite sure they have no intention or desire to actually compete with the Leaf. While the Focus EV may not be a “compliance car” technically, since it is available outside of CARB states, it still appears to be a greenwash vehicle. They make it just to say they make it. They probably make no profit on it and are happy with 100 sales per month.

      1. Alphaman says:

        And for the record, Ford now has their specs and pricing online, and yup, it’s $29K before incentives, 33.5KWh, and has the DC fast charger, just as Bloggin prognosticated. Only difference is the FFE is already “well equipped” (equivalent to the Titanium option on the ICE models), as the only option available is a leather interior for an extra $1K; that means the most you could spend on one would be $23.5K after the Fed $7.5K tax incentive, far cheaper than a Leaf.

        1. Bloggin says:

          Now on top of that in California Ford is offering $2,000 Discount, so we are looking at $21,500 for a Titanium level trim Focus Electric with CCS and at least 115 miles of range. This is also with a liquid cooled/heated battery pack.

          That makes it $5k to $7k less than a comparably equipped Leaf.

          The Canada site shows 185km that works out to just about 115 EV miles.

  26. Rani says:

    Will the new battery pack fit into a 2013 Focus?

  27. Chris C. says:

    Hey InsideEVs, you need to tag this article the same way you tag all the other FFE articles, with the following tags:

    Ford
    Ford Focus
    Focus Electric
    Ford Focus Electric

    Coming up with umpteen tags that include “2017” is nice, but you forgot the basic tags. Dude, help us find these articles so we can drive traffic to your site.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Sure Chris, will do!