2017 Ford Focus Electric: 115 Miles Of Range For $29,120

NOV 23 2016 BY JAY COLE 105

In addition to a 33.5 kWh battery, the new 2017 Ford Focus Electric adds DC fast charging

In addition to a 33.5 kWh battery, the new 2017 Ford Focus Electric adds DC fast charging

A few months ago we reported that the new 2017 edition of the Ford Focus Electric would be getting a bigger 33.5 kWh battery and a (at the time) unknown range bump, along with DC fast charging when the model started production in November.

Snazzy new DCFC Combo charge port for the 2017 Ford Focus Electric

Snazzy new DCFC Combo charge port for the 2017 Ford Focus Electric

Now we can fill in some of the blanks, as the car has both a EPA rating and has been priced (although the US Ford website has yet to be updated as of press)

The range of the 2017 edition moves to 115 miles – up from 76 miles (via a 23 kWh battery), while the MPGe numbers move from 105 to 107 MPGe, with the Ford netting 118 MPGe in the city and 96 MPGe on the highway.

Ford notes that a standard L2 charge (6.6 kW) takes 5.5 hours, while Ford states a fast charge recovers 75 miles of distance in 30 minutes* – a big plus when you are in a hurry.

Perhaps even more importantly, despite the larger battery DC fast charging being added as a standard feature, the pricing actually fell by $50, to $29,120.

2017 Ford Focus Electric spec sheet

2017 Ford Focus Electric spec sheet

Obviously, the advent of a 115 mile EV from Ford puts a lot of pricing pressure on the soon-to-arrive (~late January) Hyundai IONIQ Electric, which has been recently rated by the EPA with 124 miles of range, and also the updated Volkswagen e-Golf and its new ~124 mile range that enters production next month.  Neither of these models have yet to have an announced priced in the US.

The Nissan LEAF will likely be immune to the new Ford, at least from a range standpoint…as both January (and Carlos Ghosn) are coming to the US.

As a random point of interest, we looked into production of the new 2017 Ford Focus Electric and found out assembly of the car started last week (Monday, November 14th) at Ford’s MAP (Michigan Assembly Plant) – meaning we should start seeing the cars by as early as the end of this year.  Although we should note that the Focus EV is not a standard inventory car for many Ford dealers, so if you want one…you’ll likely have to order one.

2017 Ford Focus Electric Interior

2017 Ford Focus Electric Interior

Battery ledge still a touch intrusive in the 2017 edition

Battery ledge still a touch intrusive in the 2017 edition

Who doesn't love a customized kickplate?

Who doesn’t love a customized kickplate?

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New FFE has better range than Leaf, comes with thermal managed battery, comes with DCFC standard. It cost almost $5K less than the base Leaf with DCFC, and $8.5 less than Bolt. What’s “nah” about it? Until Ioniq, etc. announce their pricing, FFE is the best deal going.

Stepped trunk is lousy, power is lacking compared to SparkEV, but far better than eGolf and Leaf, maybe even be the best among 120’ish miles range EV. Before saying “nah”, compare the features and especially the price.

Unless eGolf and Ioniq are priced substantially less, FFE could turn out to be the sleeper hit. I just wish Ford would put more power into the drive train and actually try to sell them.

+1. I couldn’t have said it better myself

Agreed, this is a bargain. Might be even sweeter if it qualifies for A plan pricing.

Most excellent!
I like the Focus EV even MORE now.

This vehicle makes the #TinyTrunk on the Model 3 Prototype, look like a vast cavern of storage potential.

Put the battery in the floor where it’s supposed to be. That whole damn thing. KTHNX.

Battery is trunk AGAIN !!!!!! WTF !!!!!!!!

Ford = FAIL x2

Roses are red
Ford is blue
Trunk is battery
And so are you

Special order only? So no trained EV techs at most dealerships? That’s a deal breaker.

I don’t know where you are but in Texas the Ford dealers are very familiar with the FFE.

I can say in Chicago the dealers haven’t been the slightest bit interested in the FFE despite us being one of their pilot markets. I was going to test drive as a potential replacement to our leased Leaf … none had any available, special order only. Bought an i3 instead.

I wonder if my clubs will fit. Probably not with the cart.

Meh . . . . for $22K after the tax-credit it is a decent compliance car. I think it would be a great car for people that want a decent EV for a low price and don’t need huge range. The Model 3 and Bolt definitely outshine it but they cost a lot more.

But we should be happy with how far we have come! Just a few short years ago, the only thing you could buy for that price was the little iMiev with its 62 miles of EPA range range!

Since when is Texas a compliance state? Ford has been selling the FFE here for three years.

Meh. They sell them in a lot of places but these are really mainly for Ford to get their ZEV credits. They are going to drop this thing as soon as they have an EV that is built from the ground up as an EV. It’s kind of a clunky conversion and everyone knows it.

funny – I and most FFE owners have much fewer complaints about our “clunky conversions” than the Leaf owners with their self destructing batteries. Lets see, 7k more for a butt ugly constantly degrading Japanese car built from the ground up or a conversion on an award winning euro chassis that is the best looking car in its class and made in America. Tough choice – NOT…

My Leaf batteries are self destructing as I write this, all 54 kWh of them!

Don’t take it so personally. I said “it is a decent compliance car. I think it would be a great car for people that want a decent EV for a low price and don’t need huge range.”

But be real . . . the sales of it have been pretty low, it had the dangerous “Stop Safely Now” issue, low range until recently, etc. We all know Ford can and will do much better. They just thought that playing it safe with an out-sourced conversion was the way to go.

My Ford actually has one of the most luxurious interiors and features of any of the EV’s out there. The smart phone interface is incredible compared to the LEAF, BMW, etc. You can get up to date location, where the car has been at what time, charging logs, health reports, etc.

My car came with drivers power seat, xenons, 5 level heated leather seats, backup camera, interior lighting color options, navigation, sirius, leather, led outside door handle lighting, dual zone climate control,etc.Not too many EVS like it in this price range, that’s for sure.

Only cars sold in CARB states get ZEV credits.

Is Texas CARB state?

CARB = California Air Resources Board

speculawyer is right.

What makes a car a “compliance car” is what the auto maker’s intent was when it was engineered and developed, not what States or countries it happens to be sold in.

It appears pretty clear that Ford awkwardly shoehorned an EV powertrain and battery pack into the Focus merely so they would have a compliance car to sell where needed.

Ford needs to up its game and develop a compelling long-range PEV; something to compete with the Bolt and/or the Volt 2.0 and/or the Tesla Model ≡.

Even though it is sold in all states, the Focus EV is outsold by the compliance Spark EV by more than 4 to 1. It’s really sad on Ford’s part not to update the battery package so not to take up so much space. Hopefully this happens when the next gen Focus arrives.

Well, to their credit they did add a CCS port to it and increased the battery size.

Yeah, the lack of CCS (or any quick charger) was a deal breaker for us before. I’m glad to see it in this model year, even if it took bloody forever.

Maybe this will ensure better sales this time around?

Range is fine for what it is. 🙂 If the price is $29,120 before rebate w/ DC charge standard… I would say it is a pretty good value when compared to similarly ranged cars such as the Ioniq and Leaf!

But that Trunk image… yikes. not so great. O.O

All this FFE bashing by people who know nothing about the FFE makes me sick. The storage area with the rear seats folded down is VERY functional. Every other other weekend I load my electric lawn mower, my weed eater, my edger and my leaf blower in the back of my FFE to go across town to mow a friend’s yard and I still have enough room for a weeks worth of groceries, It’s a hatchback for crying out load!

Uh, loud I mean.

Actually, “crying out load” was funnier.

+1 – It is always amusing to me, the bashing. I have had 22K trouble free miles, great looking car, super reasonable price, zero battery degradation, and yes, PLENTY OF ROOM! Hatchback with seats that fold flat. It is my gig car – I regularly carry a full set of drums back and forth to gigs for the last 2 years – no complaints.

I’ve been interested in a used FFE, now that the first gen prices are making it so affordable. I remember initially they had problems with them shutting down on the highway. Did that get totally fixed? Are there any other issues that are outstanding? If that’s fixed, then a used FFE seems like a real bargain!

There was a shutting down thing with the first issues and a non start thing a little later – those have all been fixed with software upgrades under over the production run. A good source for information is this user group:

I never did get the “stop safely now” but I did get the power cables replaced, it took less than a day. Right now all of the Fords have a recall to replace the MyFordMobile modem because Ford is changing their service. 42K miles and I have not once had to change the engine oil but the tires are getting worn from all the FWD burnouts.

What engine oil?

That’s “Texas Humor”, apparently.

It’s like an oil slick it covers everything and slowly seeps into your consciousness.

I remember when, oil, was so cheap they were giving cans away at the grocery store. Then the joke was they wan’t to try and get people to put it on their cornflakes.
Back in my day…

Changed the modem in my FFE (Ford Fusion Energi) and it Borked the MyFrodMoble… Value charging and EV range don’t work (mobile or web).

I think it’s a great value for the money as I said right above you.

I think the image here is what makes it look small. If they took off the privacy cover before taking this photo, it wouldn’t look nearly as constricted. 🙂 As you say, it’s a hatchback. People think my spark ev has a tiny back too, but once I fold down those seats I can store a surprising amount!

WadeTyhon said: “I think the image here is what makes it look small.” Seriously??? The Ford Focus is one of the smallest cars I’ve ever ridden in. And I speak as someone who has driven a classic VW Beetle, and whose first car was a (1975) Honda Civic CVCC, a 2-door hatchback which wasn’t much bigger inside than a Beetle. Look, I don’t want to bash the Focus. It’s one of the best-selling cars, so obviously it’s popular, altho I think that’s mainly due to its low price. But this car is significantly smaller than the average American make car. Likewise, it’s good that those posting here who own a Focus Electric like their cars. But people who drive aftermarket conversion cars say they like them, too. Even if everyone who drives a Focus Electric loves it, that’s no indication that any conversion car, including this one, can compete with cars designed to be PEVs from the ground up. The first horseless carriages were buggies converted to automobiles by adding a steering tiller and bolting a motor over the rear axle. No doubt there were many happy motorists who liked their early horseless carriage. But they certainly couldn’t compete in… Read more »

Seriosly??? Seriously!!! o.o

I didnt say it had a lot of extra space. I said the photo makes it look more constricted than it is.

If you take a bedroom, fill it with furniture and add a room divider down the center so you cannot see half of the room, then a photo taken of that room will look much smaller than it actually is. The photo of the trunk here is pretty awful.

I know you dont intend to bash the car, but it is a good value, actually. I will not be buying it myself, but it is good range for the money. 🙂

I think the FFE would be excellent if Ford let dealers stock it which they dont in Tucson…
I beleive Car and Driver did an EV comparison and where they said it was a Tesla for the common man and blew the other EVs away…
And yes it cant do 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds but upwards of 99 % of the people who buy cars dont care…
But if VW and Hyundai stock their cars and Ford doesnt there is no reason to go with the FFE…
I know VW said they will stock the 2017 eGolf nationwide and I beleive it was supposed to be at the same price…

Upwards of 99% don’t care. Hmm. We are all affected by the people we hang around but I can tell you that people like fast cars even if they don’t drive fast.

99% of the people I hang out would really like a 2.5 sec 0-60 car

Did they not announce that a wireless upgrade made it a 2.4s to 60 car?

It’s a nice looking car and the price is right. It would fill my needs.

Put 2 child seats in the back. Then tell us you can do all that. Heck, it can’t even do a Costco run. It is what it is.

The rear seat lower flips forward for tall items. Then the rear seat backs fold flat for big items. I moved a rocking chair with a ton of other things one day. You can get them at any EV certified dealer which are everywhere, even in the red states! Drive one before you knock one.

“The Nissan LEAF will likely be immune to the new Ford, at least from a range standpoint…as both January (and Carlos Ghosn) are coming to the US.”

I’m a bit confused by the grammar with that last bit. Does it imply that the long rumored long range Leaf will be unveiled in January? Or Available in January?! (I’m guessing not that)

My FFE lease ends in March, and the Bolt won’t be in PA until May or June according to a local dealer, so I’m mulling my options for what’s next.

Jay has been dropping hints for a while that a big upgrade to the Leaf is going to be unveiled and made available sometime soon.

I’m skeptical that we see it available in the first half of 2017 myself, but I’m certainly nowhere near as plugged-in to the industry as Jay is.

Right now Ford is offering $2,000 Cash Back, so it’s $20k for a Titanium level Focus EV with CCS.

Getting a Leaf to a comparable trim level is about $5 to $7k more.

But really with these entry level EVs, it’s all about the lease price, which should remain at $169/mo with $1,999 down.

While the current Leaf SL with 107mile battery pack is over $150 more per month at $326/mo lease with $2,799 down.

That was the end of year clearance lease pricing for the 2016s. Currently, Ford is offering $240/month for 48 months with a $3,885 down payment on the 2017s. Still far better than the Leaf.

BMW has a better lease.

Which BMW lease is that? BMW factory offer on a 2017 i3 BEV is $279/mo for 3 years, $4204 at signing, before tax and license, 10K mi/yr. FFE factory offer is $273/mo for 3 years, $918 due at signing, before tax and license, 10.5K mi/yr.

Seems to me that over 3 years, FFE is over $3K cheaper than the i3.

Wow, seems amazing to me that the i3 is that close in lease price to the Ford, given the difference in sale price.

I agree!

This tells me that the MSRP on the i3 is inflated – is anybody really gonna pay $47K+ for that car? The residual is high too… will it really be worth over $27K after three years? I doubt it. I’m guessing it will probably be worth about $20K, based on history with another 100-mile BEV – a 2014 RAV4 EV. That was about $50K MSRP (totally inflated), but could be leased for about $450-$480/mo (true $0 drive-off), with a residual of about $20K.

So anyway, to make a long story short, I think the ~25% difference in the 3-year = lease cost of the two doesn’t reflect the ~50% difference in their MSRP because, again this is my opinion, the MSRP and residual of the i3 is high by about $7000.

It looks like Ford has updated their website for the different regions. Currently California has this lease offer for the currently unavailable 2017 model.

36 month lease, $3339 due at signing

But we are still looking at year end. Right now there are no lease incentives showing for the 2017 model. But with the vehicle price holding steady from the 2016 model, I expect the same $169 – $199 lease price to hold for next year, with $1,999 down. Also still waiting to see the first window sticker.

I can not believe how inexpensive this vehicle is for what you get – the only option is leather seats – EVERYTHING else is standard, including HID headlamps, navigation, high end stereo etc…$ 20,245 BEFORE dealer discount. Assume another one or two thousand. Lease price given is $204.00. How can you go wrong, battery placement or not – remember that the rear seat folds down.

Base MSRP: $29,120
+ Options: $0
+ Destination: $875
= Total MSRP: $29,995
– Incentives: $9,750
= Net Price: $20,245

“Black Friday” RCL Customer Cash

Program #50382: For Red Carpet Lease incentives $250.00, take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 11/30/2016. See dealer for complete details.

Amount: $250, Offer Valid: Nov 1, 2016-Nov 30, 2016
RCL Customer Cash

Program #50378: For Red Carpet Lease incentives $9,500.00, take new retail delivery from dealer stock by 01/03/2017. See dealer for complete details.

Amount: $9,500, Offer Valid: Oct 4, 2016-Jan 3, 2017

To go and trade in my ’13 FFE for a new ’17 is very tempting but my existing FFE is still very nice and should be serviceable for many years to come. The only real advantages of the ’17 are CCS charging and the larger battery. I’ve been contemplating putting a ’17 charging system on my ’13 ever since I found out the ’17 would have CCS. I thought the charging door opening of ’17 would just be the same opening as the older opening but with the charge ring removed but the charge door opening on the ’17 is actually a complete different shape. So to install the ’17 charging system on older FFEs you’re also going to have to replace the fender as well as the charging system components, not really a big deal to replace the fender. For Texas you really need the range of the Bolt so I don’t really see myself buying a new FFE, but, if I can get the details worked out I might try to put ’17 CCS charging system in my ’13. I don’t see the battery as being a significant reason to upgrade. Now that the 33.5 kWh battery has… Read more »

I know the 2017 use LGs but what batteries do the earlier years use and have they had any issues with heat?

They have an internal battery cooling system that disperses the heat when charging- that is why the batteries don’t degrade like the Leafs

Right because heat generated by charging is why the Leaf has a battery degradation issue.

Please – unless you are well versed in battery technology, it is best not to state things like they are fact. Do the research on the Leaf battery and other EV’s cooling technology. A Leaf could live at a temp that would never kick on Tesla’s cooling and it would degrade faster. It is the chemistry. Not that getting baked in AZ helps without a cooling system but it is more complicated.

Evidence for the above is apriori. In that later versions, still without active cooling, lasted longer and were less affected by temperature extremes.

Only because Nissan changed the Leaf’s battery chemistry to a type somewhat less affected by excessive temperatures. It lessened the problem, but certainly didn’t eliminate it.

And as I understand it, the problem of Leaf batteries prematurely aging was most pronounced when the battery pack got hot and stayed that way for an extended period of time… like 24 hours or more. It wasn’t just a problem with temporarily overheating while charging.

If you can get a couple thousand off that MSRP this might be a very nice second car. I have driven both the Leaf and the FFEl and the FFEl is the better car, but it just didn’t even have enough range to be a decent limited utility car. Getting it over 100 miles of AER makes it a lot more useful to a significant minority of car buyers.
It isn’t a patch on the a** of the Bolt or the III (when it arrives) but if it costs $10,000 less, it doesn’t need to be.

+1 – exactly!

Agreed. I don’t get all the haters on this car. Not everybody needs the same thing.

Darn nice upgrade on the FFE and it actually costs less to boot!

Well, this is a much more attractive offering than the previous generation. The old version was always severely lacking on range, and then to make matters worse there was no way to fast charge. Now it’s actually a viable vehicle, and the price isn’t too bad. Ford could probably sell 20,000 to 30,000 per year of these if they would stock them and make people aware that it exists. But I suspect they’ll remain content with 2,000 per year.

My exact thoughts.

With the larger battery pack they should have put in a slightly more powerful motor since the larger pack allows for a faster discharge rate over more cells. Just bumped it up to 160-180 hp or whatever is possible.

Then dropped the price to $27,500-$28,500 before the incentive. This would give them a $20,000-$21,000 EV after incentive with a 0-60 of around 7 seconds and 100 miles of range.

Then they wouldn’t be competing directly with the Bolt and upcoming Model 3 and Leaf 2. They would be all alone in a segment until now has only been buying used EVs.

They would sell 15K-20K a year easily until they got their act together for a FFE 2. But this is all assuming they actually care to sell any.

A move in the right direction. Still behind the range of GM and Tesla and next year everyone else (but Mitsu i-Miev). Ford will not be able to play this game much longer without losing market share to better engineered EVs.

If this car had come along say a year ago, everyone would be praising it for its more than 100 miles of EV range. But as it stands, it seems too little too late.

At any rate, if the Ford Focus Electric continues to be a car made only (or almost only) when a customer specifically requests one, then it’s not going to have any significant impact on the EV revolution, regardless of how good or how bad the car is.

Too little too late? Really?
Please, show me your Model 3 or Bolt. I’m planning on ordering my FFE on Friday and will have it months, maybe even more than a year, before these other promises become real for most consumers.

I, like most consumers, don’t need more than a 60 mile range. Getting 115 with CCS is pure gravy. An extra $8,000 to $20,000 to get to 200 miles seems excessive to me. Some people may need that, but not me. And probably not most.

But if you’re willing to consider future products like the Bolt or Model 3, then don’t forget that Ford has said they’ll be doing a 200+ mile EV, too.

Exactly. Different strokes for different folks.

Deliveries of the Bolt EV start next week. Deliveries of the FFE may start at the end of net month. Difficult to understand why you think the longer range FFE will be available as soon as, much less before, the Bolt EV.

Having had a 73 mile range BEV, could not disagree more on range. There is a huge difference between 200 miles and 100 miles. The new FFE might have the bare minimum for range, but not any more than this.

Alphaman said:

“I, like most consumers, don’t need more than a 60 mile range.”

If “most consumers” didn’t need more than a 60 mile range in their car, then auto makers wouldn’t give all gasmobiles a gas tank big enough for at least a 300 mile range.

Yes, this most definitely is too little, too late, for this car to actually compete with other plug-in EVs. And that is what I was talking about: The ability to compete in the marketplace.

Even cars which are hopeless at competing with others can find a few who love them.
No matter what car you name, you can find some who like it. I’m sure the Ford Edsel had its fans back in the day.

I hope you enjoy your FFE. I’m sure that Ford won’t sell many of these, but that doesn’t stop me from hoping you enjoy owning and driving it.

They’ve sensibly priced it with a big enough differential to the Bolt (which won’t be available in significant numbers anyway) to shift some. They don’t need to sell that many since they have the Energi twins to get their PHEV credits.

This car speaks volumes about Ford’s commitment to the EV movement; I see it as taking a minimum risk and only producing mandated cars as necessary. But hey, it’s not only Ford, most of the legacy car makers are taking this approach because they have a huge investment in fossil fuel cars. Even Nissan has decided on making minimum progress in developing the Leaf. Six years without increasing the battery range significantly is shameful and a direct indication of their low-risk approach. Yes, GM has the BOLT out; but, they have only committed to producing 30,000 in the first attempt.

It truly will take Tesla, the progressive states, and the committed Germany car makers to drive the EV movement in the U.S. The American makers are too busy dealing with oil politics and now with a President, Congress and SCOTUS who are science deniers.

It is true that Ford took a puzzy route with an outsourced EV conversion. But we know they can and will do better. Sadly, their strategy may work well for them since they have lots of tax-credits left. That’s why I wanted to law to change to make it a pool that they all draw from so the early companies are rewarded.

But with Trump . . . . . :-/

Don’t forget China, LAD.

Unlike the Trumpsters/Republicans, they actually believe science and they have worked the numbers so they will now be able to surpass the USA in what will certainly be the fastest growing sector (clean tech) of the worlds economy while we give up our former leadership role in this segment.

SparkEV-Fiat500-Leased - M3 Reserved - Bolt- TBD

“only” 30K is more than the yearly Model S US Sales —in year 3 of sales mind you.

In the Ford ad for the new Ford Focus Electric — it ends by saying…..Check out our newest full-sized trucks!


Now that is funny !

There is an all new electrified platform and drivetrain coming from Ford for the 2018/2019 calendar year. The Fiesta/Focus/Escape more modular platforms had to be renewed to handle electrification. The new Fusion/Mondeo/MKZ/EDGE/MKX/S-Max platform gets renewed the following year.

There is also new battery technology coming.

It did not make sense to design a new top hat for the old architecture, when it is being replaced with all new components in a few year.

New Fiesta is coming for 2018, and new Focus for 2019, followed by new Escape/MKC and new 200+ mile EV.

Ford really likes doing things in-house. The battery pack build has moved in-house for the 2017 FFE. Another thing is that I have noticed that Ford really does not work on the bleeding edge of a market with completely new models, they wait and let it mature, then offer a product when the volume can support it’s production.

So with the new Fiesta, Focus, Escape, Fusion, along with Lincoln models that need a plug, and China’s huge EV incentives, there will be a huge electrification push from Ford by 2020.

Lad said:

“Yes, GM has the BOLT out; but, they have only committed to producing 30,000 in the first attempt.”

While I wish GM had chosen to be more aggressive in its production of the Bolt, it’s pretty silly to complain about that when trying to make the case for the Ford Focus Electric! 30,000 is “only” about 19 times as many as Ford has ever sold of the Focus Electric in North America in any year.

The Ford Focus Electric is a compliance car. The Bolt is not. Period.

The photo at the top is red, but it isn’t of the 2017. You can tell by the (old) circular charge port door. The 2017 has a larger, irregularly shaped door.

Geez, can we all please chill out and give Ford the benefit of the doubt? They came into the EV game fairly early on, and they have — as evidenced with this new generation of the FFEV — continued to make progress. Are they as “pure EV” as Tesla? No, but who else is? Are they making ongoing efforts to make and improve an EV that is attractive to and affordable for a broader audience than Tesla? Absolutely! Seems to me that all of us EV drivers should be supportive of anyone who adds to the breadth and depth of EV offerings.

Harold Sogard said:

“Are they making ongoing efforts to make and improve an EV that is attractive to and affordable for a broader audience than Tesla? Absolutely!”

Absolutely not. Ford makes a unit of the Ford Focus Electric only when a customer specifically requests one. The FFE is a low-volume compliance car.

Contrariwise, Tesla is increasing the number of cars it sells per year as fast as it can, and plans to increase its production to 500,000 within a very few years.

And you don’t make an attractive PEV (Plug-in EV) by taking a cheap gasmobile and awkwardly shoe-horning an EV powertrain into it. Competitive, compelling PEVs are designed as electric cars from the ground up!

Please insideevs, tell us something about the range of the Leaf.
Does it go in direction of the Bolt with much more than 200 miles, or the new Renault Zoe ~ 180 – 190 miles. Give us a hint.

more hints?? There had been at least 3 articles over the last half year that stated 160-175 miles for the next leaf. And available between spring 2017 to summer 2018.

Really I find no hint about the Epa miles, I only know that the IDS Concept has more than Bolt, maybe 250 miles. But with Zoe battery it should be 180 miles.

So sad this car has a little trunk because at this price it would be a top seller with a 33,5khw battery with TMS!

So here’s a list of plug-ins that have similar or less cargo volume than the FFE. On this list are many EVs that have a much higher sales volume than the FFE. So I suspect that cargo space is not a deal killer for most folks in the market for a plug-in.

BMW i3 BEV 15.1
Ford Focus Electric BEV 14.5
Audi A3 e-tron PHEV 13.6
Mitsubishi i-MiEV BEV 13.2
BMW 330e PHEV 13.0
Chevrolet Volt (Gen 2) PHEV 10.6
Hyundai Sonata Plug-in PHEV 9.9
Chevrolet Spark EV BEV 9.6
BMW 330e PHEV 9
Ford Fusion Energi PHEV 8.2
smart fortwo ED BEV 7.8
Fiat 500e BEV 7.0

When I had a FFE, I never had any problems fitting anything I wanted to put back there. Looks can be deceiving.

If those are accurate numbers, then thank you very much for this excellent info. Given the photos I never would have thought the FFE had so much more cargo room than the Volt.

Pretty solid effort by Ford. They’re staying in the game. Not leaders but doing ok.

Is it 2012?

I love the curb-side charging in the picture.

Like that will happen often.


Ya know, the emerging convention of having a charging port on the street side of EVs needs to be arrested.

I’ve two friends w/EVs living on narrow streets and there’s simply no way they can plug in without parking illegally in the wrong direction.

A 36m/15K $0 down lease is $360/mo plus tax, and that’s with $7750 CCR. A-Plan should bring it to around $290/mo plus tax.

I’d like to see one on a dealer lot so I could touch it, sit in it, drive it, etc.

However, even though I am near a certified dealer {North AL}, they do not stock the FFE since the first three they had when they were new to the market. Those sold very slowly and they haven’t put one on the lot since then.

The FFE sales are pretty good in Texas especially since the Spark EV isn’t sold here. Even FFE resale prices are pretty good here. New car inventory is pretty low right now but that could be to make room for the 2017 model.

We had a flood of new FFEs on the dealer lots at the beginning of the year. It’s nice to see that the inventory has been used up. 2017 should be a good year for FFE sales with this new model.

Right now there are 462 new Focus Electrics listed on AutoTrader. So there is maybe six months worth of inventory sitting on the lots. It might be a few months before we start to the 2017 model on the dealer lots.

If you were planning to buy a ’17 model and take advantage of the federal tax credit on your 2016 taxes I think you’re out of luck.

+1 – Good comparison – thanks for this.

So as far as the knocks on the car from the haters:

Cargo room – addressed with the comparison.
A compliance car: perhaps but the configuration is almost identical to the Nissan Leaf which is a ground up EV (although I have heard it is based on Versa components – Leaf enthusiasts chime in) The leaf also does not have an entirely flat cargo bed.
Cost: Probably the most bang for the buck of any choices currently in its class.
Range – not 200 miles but 115 is a lot better than the previous model. I have yet to see any Bolts on the road.

any questions?