2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV On Way To Consumers Now – Video


While it should come as no surprise that Chevrolet Bolt EVs are soon to be in the hands of the US consumers, thanks to Joe Lopez from the Chevy Bolt EV Interest group on Facebook, we can see actual Bolt EVs leaving GM’s Orion, Michigan plant and heading to dealerships.

So, the wait is almost over.

As for the specific location these were spotting, Mr. Lopez says they were in transit on the  I-75 south in Detroit, MI…which of course means that not all of GM’s 238 mile EVs are heading straight to California right out of the gate.

Also of interest if one is impatiently waiting on a Bolt EV delivery, GM recently made the 238 mile EV’s owner’s manual available online. Check it out here.

The Chevrolet Bolt EV will definitely arrive in December, now can it best the 718 Toyota Prius Primes sold last month to set a new debut record?

The Chevrolet Bolt EV will definitely arrive in December, now can it best the 781 Toyota Prius Primes sold last month to set a new debut record?

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But where are all the Ad’s and commercials?!?!?!?

oh wait, it’s not that serious…..

Currently demand>supply, therefore ads not required ATM.

There was also an article on here about how GM was going to use more targeted ads for EVs, vs. the traditional methods.

Remember, Tesla does no advertising…

GM is no Tesla.

I’d love to see GM try.

Bolt is SOLD OUT ……lol

It is sold out for 2016 for sure.

Don’t even expect to get one in California if you haven’t pre-ordered yours already.

The word on the street is that it is Feb/March if you want one, even if you are in California and order one today!

2017 production is already sold out in Norway. The European version will arrive in mid 2017. Don’t know how many that is, but it was mentioned about 1k had already signed the contract in october/november without even seeing the car. I think the most important for GM is to ramp up the production to get a share of the market before Model 3 arrives.

If you order a Model 3 today you might get it in 18 months after the tax credits run out.

Insideevs publishes a couple of dozen articles on Tesla products every week, that’s advertising. You know Tesla has a team constantly doling out pieces of information to news agencies trying to get articles written. Just because Tesla doesn’t call what they are doing advertising doesn’t mean it’s not.

And Elon tweets

..and people, countries, just make commercials for them. It’s more fair to say that Tesla does not have and advertising department in the traditional sense, though they still get lots of exposure to potential buyers.

As far as I know, Tesla has stated that they do no “paid” advertising, as in print/TV. It would be silly to suggest Tesla doesn’t advertise. Stores/Galleries, e-mailing lists, referral program, media test drives, etc. All of that is advertising.

They have advertising/marketing in their financials. SuperChargers were initially listed there, but that has probably changed now.

Musk said once that conventional paid advertising (TV specifically) might be useful once Model 3 reaches volume production. My guess is a he is envisioning something like the Apple Super Bowl ad, as opposed to your local car dealer ad.

Just need to correct you language usage here:
Advertising means explicitly publishing ads/TV spots/etc. to influence people to buy your product. “Sponsored” sport teams, TV programs etc. also count as advertising. However, Tesla doesn’t do any of that — ergo they don’t advertise.

However, They most certainly MARKET their products via things like PR, Musk’s tweets, referral programs, interviews, press/public/customer product announcements, keeping test-drive cars etc. etc.

No reason to consider other marketing methods any better than advertising in some moral sense (worse, mostly), and no reason Tesla would have anything against advertising per se. They just haven’t needed it so far, but once they do, I’m sure they’ll start. Once the Model 3 is ready, there’ll be several 200mi mid-priced BEVs on the market (we all hope), so that’s a likely start point…

Thanks for the correction.

(I guess I should walk back to the engineering department.)

Nice electronic billboard on highway 880 showing the Bolt here in Bay Area, about 5 miles north of Tesla factory.

Tesla does not do paid mass media advertising.

But yeah, they certainly do advertise, and they certainly do get a lot of free advertising from media “buzz”, including from this website.

Legacy auto makers need to do a better job of targeting ads for PEVs (Plug-in EVs) to media sources which appeal to tech-savvy viewers, such as using Internet banner ads.

That’s not advertising it is called Marketing and that’s what Tesla does.

+1. Exactly.

How many millions does Tesla spend for their launch parties?

Wow, been a while.
Not sure but whatever it was they got ripped off.

There was a Bolt at the Fort Worth Auto Show, that was definitely advertising. I was also surprised to see the Bolt show up on the adverting screens behind the snack bar. I don’t think GM is going to short sell this car on advertising.

We should start see Bolt adds on TV soon. But who watches adds on TV anymore, I know I don’t. One of the best places for Chevrolet to advertise is right here on insideevs but they already do that with all the articles that get written.

I have actually seen multiple banner ads on the internet for the Bolt EV. Both on car related websites and elsewhere.

All of them mentioned that the Bolt EV was the Motor Trend car of the year, so they were deliberately created and not generic computer algorithm ads.

Also Opel has this rather… unique ad for the Bolt:


Europeans have great ads. When our kids were young, we used to take them to the local art movie house, once a year, to see them.

I saw that as well, I was just there on Friday evening. I talked to the rep who was very excited about the Bolt EV.

I heard a radio ad for Bolt in Houston the day of the MTCOY award. I was shocked.

Sadly it won’t be here for another 6 – 12 months.

Hopefully Volt will benefit from the name confusion between now and then.

Not sure there’ll be a lot of TV ads…
Darin Gesse, Marketing Product Manager for Electrified Vehicles at GM, has said the customers for EVs don’t really watch TV, so emphasis will be on online ads, print publications & billboards.

Do some of you still watch TV?

TV advertisements don’t work if we don’t watch traditional TV. If I’m watching a show, it’s on Netflix, Amazon Prime, YouTube, etc. I suspect that a lot of other people in the market for an EV are the same way, so why bother with expensive TV ads? I think GM’s banner ad approach makes much more sense.

And by the way, even though we see the Bolt as a major step forward to major acceptance of EVs, the people who buy it will still be early adopters by public standards. The rest of us who already have an older EV are just bleed edge adopters.

“Do some of you still watch TV?”

I tried to download that “TV” thing several times but it just won’t work!

I wouldn’t advertise if I were them. They have plenty of pent-up demand. Ship them out at an OK pace and wait for feedback from the customers and dealers before advertising.

How many years will it take when the Transporter delivering the EVs across state lines, from the place of assembly, will be a ZEV Itself. A total zero emission trek from the delivery room to the recycle yard (grid balancing). A non ICE throughput affair, would be astounding!

EV transporter? From a GM plant? Surely you jest.


And don’t call me Shirley! 😉

I’ve been in GM plants which move parts in and out directly on electro-Diesel (pseudo-)hybrids. Some call them trains.

I think GM is using them to deliver Bolts right now.

Top it off by delivering using the autonomous truck that delivered the beer!!!


Now that would be sick!!!!

Hydrogen trucks have been given the OK in Colorado, so if Nikola can get them out the door, maybe we’ll see electric delivery soon.
Or maybe with wireless charging and autonomous driving, the cars will just deliver themselves, betting on Tesla first for this?

Hopefully Tesla would lower their destination charge if they do auto-delivery. 😉

I too wondered about that. Once level 4 autonomy and regulations are made, they may very well self deliver to your doorstep.

Just have it drive itself through the nearest car wash on the final leg to my house.

ROFL at “soon”, no matter what Nikola says…

That aside, FCEVs are by the physics definition _always_ going to be much dirtier than direct-renewable generation.

“Direct-renewable” will be possible when reality distortion field will eliminate 4th dimension.

Nightfall Gray and Kinetic Blue Metallic are the best colors. Looks like there are a few of each up there. B)

Nightfall gray looks great there. I previously thought all the free colors looked poor but nightfall gray is fantastic.

There is officially 1 Bolt listed for sale in OR….sort of…on cars.com


Autotrader doesn’t even have the Bolt listed yet…

That is on the sleepy ass stealerships.

Even a stock photo will do. Wow.

Epic Fail on their parts.

No surprise.

The dealers probably have all thier allotments sold already. If the dealers don’t have any cars to sell they’re not going to list them on AutoTrader. Probably the first Bolts we will see on AutoTrader are going to be overpriced sold by scalpers trying to make a mint off of the pent up demand.

The white one on top is mine!

I assume it will take a week or so to get to San Diego.

Lucky! Hopefully you get yours in time for the holidays. I gotta wait till next summer.

Did you go for the Premiere? 😀

I went for the LT, added only the heated seats and steering wheel.

If I could do it again, I’d add the confidence package as well.

I forgot to add floor mats, etc.

We ordered the day we could, and the info we had to work with wasn’t nearly as clear as the info on the Chevy site.

I had to look through the codes and try and email the codes.

I won’t be sad about it.

It was built between 11/28 and 11/30.

Not sure when we’ll get it, but almost definitely by the end of the year.

Very cool, be sure to report back once you have it in your driveway!

Both good and bad, I wanna know what the first lucky owners think.

My dealership ordered 2 Volts on a Wednesday morning and they were in northern Colorado Friday afternoon, after first stopping in Denver.

Congrats to you! (Assuming you bought a Bolt).

Let us know what you think of it.

Is there excitement about this car or what?! I don’t think I’ve ever heard about a new car model that warranted a news article on the first truckload of cars leaving the factory. I just hope this excitement continues AFTER people start taking delivery.

Well, you could take that a couple of different ways, though I would say many people are excited about this car, and with good reason.

“I don’t think I’ve ever heard about a new car model that warranted a news article on the first truckload of cars leaving the factory.”

This was true with the Volt as well, lots of interest when car carriers were finally seen with them. 😉

“May the sales be ever in their favor” 😉

Wait till word of GM Bolt’s “8 year, 40% Battery Degradation” clause hits mainstream media…

Nothing flatlines sales more, than when the people selling a product, have such little faith in it.

Thanks GM / LG.

They’re probably just trying to head off some warranty battles. This is little different than Nissan warranting the Leaf battery for nine bars and 5 years. Remember, GM says they’ve never had to replace a Volt battery and some of those have more than two hundred thousand miles on them.

For reference, this language is no different than the Volt’s battery warranty, and it is by far the most reliable battery in the EV industry right now given its thermal management and lack of any observed degradation compared with (insert any other PEV here).

“Like all batteries, the amount of energy that the high voltage “propulsion” battery can store will decrease with time and miles driven. Depending on use, the battery may degrade as little as 10% to as much as 40% of capacity over the warranty period. If there are questions pertaining to battery capacity, a dealer service technician could determine if the vehicle is within parameters”

Welcome back from Electrek, Anon. Where I’m not convinced they aren’t deliberately trying to kill all EVs without a Tesla badge.

Electrek’s click bait headline:
GM warns of potential battery degradation of up to 40% for Chevy Bolt EV during warranty period or 100,000 miles.

Original text in question:
“Depending on use, the battery may degrade as little as 10% to as much as 40% of capacity over the warranty period.”

As in 100,000 miles or 8 years with normal driving you might expect 10% degradation. Drive poorly in extreme conditions and you might experience more range loss. Any significant premature range loss will be covered by the warranty.

Yeah, if there is a defect in the car it will be covered. An explicit warranty isn’t even needed for that case. In the US companies are liable for defects regardless of what they say in their warranties or even if they say nothing at all.

If you use the car in a way that causes extra degradation you may see 40% even with no fault in the car. If you drive typically and see 40% due to a fault in the car it will be covered. It’s US law.

Yes, GM putting in this statement will mean you have to show it is a fault in the car. But if the fault is significant and thus widespread there will be plenty of lawyers lined up to help you do this.

So while this may be a small cause for alarm it probably isn’t a big one.

Just taking a random guess – someone who knows nothing about EVs put it in there specifically because of what occurred with early model Nissan Leafs which were losing over 35% of their range in the first few years.

Even though the reason for this was because of Nissan’s lack of a real Thermal Management System. The Bolt will not be effected by this in nearly the same degree. Tesla and Chevy did not make this same mistake as Nissan.

The Spark and Volt are rock solid. The same will most likely happen with the Bolt. The last thing they want is an expensive battery that needs to be replaced every few years. 🙂

Electrek is the Breitbart of the EV News world with Tesla as their totem, instead of the Alt-Right.

Are you accusing Elektrek of behavior anything at all like this?


Because that’s not advocacy by Breitbart.com, that’s slander that endangers lives.

Tesla has no warranty at all for degradation – or at least nothing they will put in writing.
“The Battery, like all lithium-ion batteries, will experience gradual energy or power loss with time and use. Loss of Battery energy or power over time or due to or resulting from Battery usage, is NOT covered under this Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty.

I think its funny that people think all DEFECTS are covered by the warranty.. I carefully read my Roadster warranty, and it SPECIFICALLY stated there the car is not defect-free. Of course, I didn’t expect it to be.

I just wanted them to cover explicitly what they said they’d cover.

The optional $12,000 battery warranty only had less than ten takers in the States when I inquired about it after I purchased my car. Carefully reading the warranty, ultimately, Tesla would only guarantee that after 7 years they would give me my $12,000 back, interest free. I complained about that, and then they REWROTE the warranty strictly for me!

But it still wasn’t good enough and I declined. Hence it makes sense that less than 10 took them up on it.

Moral of the story: Always look over all the warranties prior to purchasing a new car so that you are not surprised later.

Thanks for the info — hadn’t heard that yet.
I would have hoped for 30% degradation rather than 40%), which is IIRC other EV carmakers have when they have an explicit policy (Tesla doesn’t BTW, which is underhanded IMO), but that’s still reasonable.
Note – I just checked, and it applies to any subsequent owners, not just the original one.

hey… at least they HAVE a battery degradation warranty….

Looking at YOU FORD!!

40% degradation allowance for warranty is somewhat disappointing, but it is lightyears ahead of Tesla’s 99.999..% degradation allowance for Model S/X.

LG Chem made the cells for the Volts and nobody has any appreciable range loss at all. I’ve seen 52 miles on back-country roads with my 2011 Volt during summer of 2016 (73k miles at the time). That is with its 35 mile EPA rating (guess they were “low” on that one).

LG Chem makes the cells for the Bolt as well. If you 100% charge, drive down to 0% and DCFC every time – maybe it will degrade faster. Obviously, the “ignorant” and “clumsy” will cause such degredation. Tesla recommends not to range-charge their cars every day and kind of warns against Supercharging every day as well.

I would expect at 100,000 miles, Bolt range loss would be 10-15%. That’s fine by me. Moronic consumers who lack EV prowess may find that a negative. But you will also see near 10% range loss in a Tesla 85-90 kWh battery at 200,000 miles as well. Good luck with 300,000 miles into an NCA battery… Still waiting on someone to “really” surpass 200,000 miles in a Tesla who doesn’t have the large pack replaced “because of an algorithm”

The Bolt is using LG Chem’s new, lower-cost cells. That’s a different chemistry, and we can’t depend on the longevity of previous LG cells being the benchmark here.

One problem with PEVs (Plug-in EVs) is that battery tech is a moving target. Even the oldest Volt or Leaf isn’t yet 10 years old; heck, even the Tesla Roadster isn’t. So we have no idea what the actual battery life will be over time. Let’s remember that li-ion batteries have a shelf life, quite apart from the degradation over time due to cycling.

That said, there’s no rational reason to think these new cells will age especially fast. I presume that LG Chem and GM did some accelerated aging tests to get at least an estimate of how they’ll last over time.

“lower-cost” seems so negative. I’d call them “high-density”. Because they surely aren’t cheaper per cell than other cells, they just store more per cell.

But no doubt given the chemical and physical differences required to increase the energy density (and power density?) we can’t assume they will age or wear the same as LG’s other cells.

But I do have some belief LG and GM did testing on these and have good (but imperfect) confidence in them.

A big driver of battery degradation is the number of cycles, and a PHEV or EREV will cycle the battery a lot more than a BEV. Especially a BEV with 2398 miles of range. Even so, the battery in the Volt hasn’t shown any degradation either in the real world or in INL tests.

Agree with unlucky that “low cost” is misleading. Adding nickel, which is the change in chemistry, makes the battery more stable not less.

Agree with you that all batteries degrade. Note that GM is only warrantying the batteries in the Bolt for 60% SOC for eight years. That’s unsettling, but it’s also consistent with the ELR which hasn’t shown any signs of degradation. Likely a CYA thing.

Agreed DonC. I’m willing to cut GM some slack because from what I can see, all their vehicles have by far the most reliable, long-lasting batteries. I remember PLUGINCARS did a survey early on with the Leaf and the Roadster, to get actual owner logs (from the car’s computers) to see how the batteries actually performed. My capacity battery was a very ‘average’ roadster battery, having lost 10% after 3 years. The worst battery was a German Roadster owner, who after only 2 years, put 50,000 miles on the car, but now had only around 45-50 miles range on average. I chauked that up to the guy had a lead foot and he drived so agressively that he got poor mileage, but since over half the battery had legitimately deteriorated (a light foot wouldn’t get you more than 100 miles on a 244 epa miled vehcile) – he must have doing constant 100% charges at a 17 kw rate, and then constantly draining the battery down almost to the point where the car wouldn’t move. Bob Lutz has said the GEN 1 Volt and ELR have 10 year, 150,000 mile batteries in them since they set the warranty point at… Read more »

DonC, the Volt has the same “up to 40% degradation” language as well.

While impressed with the Bolt’s range, I think only Ari C. has a chance of getting 2,398 miles on a single charge. 😉

Thought I read 70% “range warranty” in the owner manual. If it goes below a perceived 70% come in and get the techs to look at it. What below 70% may mean is a triplet set of cells (3) lost a cell and voltage testing signals something wrong. You can overcharge cells in a pair which is in-series with a triplet unless taps are being used for balancing (which I believe they are).

Losing a cell may make range fall from an estimated 36 to say 24 and that is a “shocking” (to use click-bait terms) change which should signal a possible warranty repair.

“Moronic consumers who lack EV prowess may find that a negative.”

In other words, normal people who aren’t car nuts like us?

Come on, let’s be realistic AND civil. Language like this is what causes backlash against liberals.

I didn’t see any mention of political leanings before yours.

I agree the sentiment expressed isn’t a good one. But I don’t know if I get how it became about liberals versus conservatives.

Volt maintains very conservative state of charge range. Any lithium battery would last very long in such conditions. It isn’t really comparable as you may not be able to be as conservative in pure battery vehicle when you need to get as much range as possible.

However, you know that the Bolt has vastly different parameters than the Volt. Your Volt battery has diminished, but your visible capacity has not. With around 35% holdback when new, you cannot but cycle it at most at 65% depth of discharge.

The Volt battery pack does hold up well, as you would expect with 65% DoD. At 130,000 miles, Idaho’s National Labs AVT saw 9% degradation on 2013 Volts – they measure the Ah of the cells directly. That’s terrific.

The Bolt changes things quite a bit… vastly more depth of discharge. We don’t know how much yet, but clearly the vast majority of the pack is available for use. It also has a very different chemistry. It is likely more instructive to look at other battery packs that use the same chemistry, rather than look at the same OEM manufacturer with different chemistry.

Comparisons of the Bolt EV battery to the Volt hybrid battery are misplaced because these batteries have a much different use case.

My former 12 Leaf’s battery degraded at a compounded rate of 5.3% per year for 3 years (western PA), but if the Bolt can degrade 40% in 8 years, that works out to 6.2% annually.

I would expect better with newer technology.

PHEV batteries actually seem to get more wear because PHEV drivers will routinely use the full 0%-100% capacity of their battery. Just think, if you drive to work 20 miles and only 14 are on battery, then you’ve used 100% (nearly) of your battery that day. And every day. Maybe to work and again from work!

Meanwhile EV users usually don’t make routine trips that use more than 85% of their battery. And in long-range EVs they likely use under 40%. In this Bolt I would be using less than 20% per day!

If you use only 20% of a pack each day instead of 100% of it, it will last about 5x as long. Long-range EVs should have better battery longevity given normal use than short-range EVs or than PHEVs (or at least versus EREVs).

+1. Put 12,000 miles on a battery pack with a range of 50 miles and you have 240 cycles. Put 12,000 miles on a battery pack with a range of 300 miles and you have 40 cycles.

Restrict SOC limits to 20%-80%, and you may have maybe thousands of cycles instead of hundreds for the same degradation.

Most PHEV’s packs have very generous hold-back buffers – a 2013 Volt for example holds back 35%, so you really only ever use 65% of the DoD.

Tesla battery packs and Bolt battery packs would likely also exhibit less cycling. We don’t know the hold back for the Bolt yet, but the Tesla is only 4%, but most people don’t drive 200+ miles a day.

I doubt anyone will see this type of degradation. Nothing will likely ever be as bad as the original Leaf. An EREV battery should degrade faster than a battery pack in a BEV because less range means more cycles on the battery.

My guess would be 5% or 10% over ten years. But we’ll see.

You shouldn’t try to estimate Bolt’s battery degradation based on the warranty language and comparing to your Leaf’s actual degradation.

The Volt (with a “V”) has the same warranty language, between 10 and 40% loss in capacity after 8 years, yet it is the battery on the market with the least degradation of any strong plug-in.

The Bolt EV’s battery should be just as reliable, especially since it is much larger and therefore should experience fewer full charge cycles per unit time.

Every single thing – horsepower, range, price, L2 charging, and fast charging speed and general release dates have exceeded expectations.

This thing is not only under $30k its under it including destination charges.

They promised over 200 miles. EPA lists at 238 and many apparently get over 300.

They could have put in the standard 3.6 charger. Instead they doubled it.

They claim the battery is as high a quality as the VOLT, which seemingly has not degraded.

Given their excellent track record, I’m inclined to believe them.

Under $30K????

Show me the sales sheet that shows the price was below that at the time of purchase.

Yup – GM prices their cars to include the fed tax credit, just the way Tesla for the longest time priced THEIR cars including the fed tax credit.

Doubly true since my state doesn’t give ANY residential car credits.

Bill, sometime in the next year we should be getting a $2000 state credit in NY. It’s exciting to finally be part of the state incentives bandwagon, haha.

Well, okay, maybe not “exciting” but it will be fun to see if it has any meaningful effect on EV adoption.

I’d keep an eye on I-40 and I-15 headed towards Southern California.

Of course now that Chevy finally has the cars on the road it’s going to snow across I-80 for a couple days in the Sierras.

I guess one could watch the chain area cams on westbound I-80 looking for stopped car transporters full of Bolts putting on chains.

At the very least it’s likely that every Bolt heading to Northern California right now will have seen road salt and/or grit before it gets there. That is if GM didn’t actually load them onto trains as some have suggested. If you use trains to go from Detroit to California do you just send them all in to Southern California and truck them north instead of messing with the Sierras in the winter?

That was like an early christmas gift in my eyes…just beautiful to watch 🙂

In another major advance, the bolt now has a 110v plug, see page 109.

Bolts showing up en mass on Chevy dealer websites! Rydell Chevy has 16 alone!


Awesome! Will not be long now!

A friend of mine just saw one driving on the freeway here in SoCal, so they must now be out in the wild 🙂