First 2016 Nissan LEAF In Forged Bronze Spotted In The Wild

SEP 5 2015 BY STATIK 35

We have been pounding the table a long time (since April) that the 2016 model year Nissan LEAF will come with a much anticipated, longer range battery for this Fall, in order to better bridge the gap to the 2nd generation offering in 2017.

New 2016 Nissan LEAF Color Palette

New 2016 Nissan LEAF Color Palette

Then in May, we reported that the 2016 LEAF will come with a 30 kWh battery in the SV and SL trims (entry “S” level to remain the same at 24 kWh), giving the LEAF “an EPA rated range of about 105 to 110 miles, but also that the new LEAF would arrive in 3 new colors.

“Thankfully, Nissan’s take on “Robin’s Egg Blue” (Morningsky Blue) that seems to have plagued been a required color for almost all plug-ins in the past, has been deleted along with Cayenne Red.  In its place 3 new colors – Forged Bronze, Coulis Red and Deep Blue Pearl.”

As further confirmation on Thursday of this week, Jean-Pierre White looks to have become the first to spot a new 2016 LEAF in the US, as he snapped what is clearly a “Forged Bronze” LEAF charging at Nissan’s US HQ.

Here is what JP had to say on his Nissan LEAF blog – JPWhiteNissanLEAF:

“I spotted a LEAF today that I did a double take on. The paint looked brown rather than black in the morning sunlight. Then I realized it really was brown not black.”

2016 LEAF Ordering Form Leaked (story here)

2016 LEAF Ordering Form Showing 30 kWh Battery Option and “Forged Bronze” New Color – Dealer Leaked (story here)

While adding some background on the find:

“The LEAF I saw was parked at Nissan HQ in Franklin TN and had Manufacturer tags on it. The Tires are not new looking so the car has been on the road for a while. There is little to distinguish this 2016 car from any other LEAF. The Michelin tires and Navigation console means it is probably an SL or SV trim. The interior was dark cloth, not leather.

So this is evidence the rumors are true regarding a  new LEAF model. We will have to wait until the official Nissan announcement(s) as to what we will get and at what price.”

Obviously, spotting a 2016 Nissan LEAF in one of its new paint schemes doesn’t confirm the 30 kWh battery or its forecasted 105-110 mile range, but we remain confident nonetheless.

Our congrats to Jean-Pierre and his eagle-eye!

JPWhiteNissanLEAF

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Kevin Cowgill
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Kevin Cowgill

Thank you, Jay, for constantly pounding on that darn table. We’re getting closer by the minute. Keep up the good work.

offib
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offib

If it was a deep blue plus pearl (that looked black), I would be more than happy to whip out a Fr.Ted reference… I guess that will never happen.

Ziv
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Ziv

Every increment of additional AER is welcome. Most of us can’t afford a $100,000 car so if you want a BEV, not an EREV, 110 miles in a 2016MY Leaf looks fairly appealing.
I think there are 3 pretty logical thresholds that we will see people wanting. 100 miles, then 150, then 200. Each threshold will be “enough” for an increasingly large group of car buyers. Once you get to 200 miles with some form of fast charging, that will probably satisfy 75% of the car buyers for use as a primary car.

Draighven
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Draighven

The only thing this doesn’t cover is single car households like mine. I would need a 400 mile range (in winter) to make a BEV my car. My trips usually happen on weekends and I really can’t afford to sit for a couple hours at chargers when I only have two days to make an 800 mile trip.

david_cary
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david_cary

You would be an outlier. I haven’t driven 400 miles one way in 20 years (I’m 45). I’ve driven 300 miles once in 20 years. Now 200-300 – probably 5 times. Ok for rental once every 4 years.

100-200 miles – 10 times a year.

A weekend trip of 400 miles – that is really an outlier.

And of course – supercharging is 30 minutes to cover about 150 winter miles.

Three Electrics
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Three Electrics

Get an i3. BMW will loan you an ICE 3-series for up to 14 days each year.

Mike777
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Mike777

Lease an i3, then buy the car after the lease expires.
That’s one way to [ barely ] afford an i3.

Just say’in.

Tony Williams
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I did 600 miles in one day with the 2012-2014 Toyota Rav4 EV (they’re all the same except three colors), from San Diego to Santa Rosa, CA. The car is equipped with our company’s “JdeMO” system, which allows use of public quick charge stations. This trip required numerous charge stops, but each stop was 30-45 minutes. The Rav4 EV is has a bit more range than the LEAF will have with a “30kWh” battery (even though the EPA data doesn’t reflect that), with the Rav4 capable of 142 miles range at 65mph with a new condition battery. I gave a dinner speech in Santa Rosa, and two days later, I returned to San Diego. It was a long weekend. I won’t call that an easy trip, because that is a lot of driving! But, the Rav4 EV can do it, when properly set up and with adequate quick charging infrastructure. The Rav4 EV is available for $25,000 to $40,000 used. This weekend, I drove the Tesla Model S-70D very easily the 350 miles from San Diego to Las Vegas using the Tesla Supercharger network. I only had to charge once enroute for an hour, during lunch. The hotel had a… Read more »
Alonso Perez
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Alonso Perez

Sure it covers single car households, like mine.
It doesn’t cover you because your 800 mile weekends are way out of the norm. In over 20 years, I’ve literally never driven 800 miles in a weekend trip. Way too much time sitting in a car for two days.
There will be driving patterns that don’t fit electrics well for some time. But these driving patterns are unusual. I definitely think that 200 mile EVs fit about 75% of the population, given fast charging. Without fast charging, they fit about 50% of the population. Considering EV sales are still about 1%, that’s a huge growth opportunity.

Epicurus
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Epicurus

Get a Volt. I bet 80% of your miles will be all electric.

Anon
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Anon

You won’t be gettin’ that second gen Volt any time soon. 😉

Priusmaniac
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Priusmaniac

I agree with you Draighven, I also don’t understand how people can be satisfied with 110 miles with a single car. If I want to go at sea and come back that is already 200 miles, if I want to reach the Alps that is 400 miles, so your 400 miles range proosal would fit me as well and probably the many pure thermal drivers that are obviously not speaking here.

arne-nl
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arne-nl

“I really can’t afford to sit for a couple hours at chargers”

With the higher capactities come higher power. The KIA Soul EV is already capable of 100 kW fast charging. And it won’t stop there: fast charging standards will probably go over 200 kW sooner rather than later.

So the time spent charging will diminish as the battery capacity increases. With a future 200 mile LEAF/Bolt/Model 3, your 400 mile trip needs probably two 20 min fast charges. Time you can easily justify to go to the bathroom and buy some coffee/sandwich/ice cream/etc. Not hours wasted, but, given the limited size of the human bladder, more like 15 min or maybe half an hour. Or do you wear diapers on your 400 mile weekend trip? 😉

Don’t be surprised if, a few years from now, you change your point-of-view once you have experienced the reality of EV road tripping.

david_cary
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david_cary

Just for clarity – the base S is $70,000 and so $64,000 or so after tax rebate and destination charges.

$64k is still a good distance away from $100k. Even the ASP is probably well away from $100k given the popularity of the 70 model.

DonC
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DonC

My guess is that it’s slightly over $100K. The last time I looked it was well over. Of course times change but if it’s under $100K, I doubt it’s well under.

Jay always knows this type of stuff. You could ask him.

Tony Williams
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What the heck are you talking about? He just gave you the prices.

The base Tesla Model S is $70,000. That’s a fact. Not $100,000. Just click here for more info:

http://www.teslamotors.com

Tesla has Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) cars, too:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/preowned

All the above come with access to “FREE FOREVER” Supercharger network.

Tony Williams
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If you purchase any new EV, including a Model S, you qualify for $7500 in a federal tax credit (assuming you owed the government at least $7500 in federal taxes).

In addition, many states and localities have addition incentives. For example, there is a $6000 rebate for new or used EVs in Colorado. California gives $2500 for a new EV, whether leased or purchased.

Epicurus
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Epicurus

Wow. $6000 rebate on used EVs in CO? Used Leafs are in the $8000-$13,000 range. The rebate would almost pay for a 2011-2012 Leaf.

Michael Will
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Michael Will

double check your facts though. The 70k are not the purchase price but an estimated total cost after 10k off through rebates that are not instant, and also subtracting gasoline not used in 5 years. The actual number will be closer to 100k especially when you add in the stuff that makes a tesla awesome like the tech package for automated cruise control, dual motor, etc and add 8.5% sales tax or whatever it is where you live. I basically priced one out with all add ons except the toddler seats for the trunk and noticed the 90D is not that much more expensive than the 70D but has much more range and faster charging.

Tom Moloughney
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That’s not correct Michael. The up front cost for a new 70kWh rear wheel drive Model S in $70,000 (+$1,200 for documentation and destination fees, so it is actually $71,200). You can then subtract the $7,500 federal tax rebate or local incentives if you qualify.

The “Musk Math” of gas savings is not included in the $70K

Robert Weekley
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Michael, a re-check of the page at http://my.teslamotors.com/models/design will show you that the ‘Musk Price’ for the Entry Level Tesla Model S 70 Rear Wheel Drive, is “$52,500 after Incentives and Gas Savings” so about half of your $100,000 idea. The Model S 70 (Single Motor) with Options: Autopilot Convenience Features, Premium Interior & Lighting, Smart Air Suspension, Ultra High Fidelity Sound, Subzero Weather Package, AND the Rear Facing Seats = $84,500 Cash Price + $1,200 Delivery & Doc Fee or $85,700 + Tax which at 8.5% = total: $92984.50 – $7,500 Tax Credit back to you = Net Cost of $85,484.50. The Switch to a 90D = a Cash Price of $102,500 + $1,200 Destination and Doc Fee for a total of $103,700 + 8.5% Tax = $112,514.50 – the Fed Tax Credit of $7,500 = $105,014.50 And – those prices include the Rear Facing Kids Seats at $3,000! So subtract that and the 90D = $101,759.50 After Taxes & The Tax Credit, while the 70 with just rear wheel drive only = $82,229.50! Drop the Premium Sound to save another $2712.50 with Tax @ 8.5%! A “Moderately Spec’d” Rear Wheel Drive 70, would be with Two Safety and… Read more »
Robert Weekley
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Full Links in above article – but in case it gets filtered – here is the message without links! >> Michael, a re-check of the Order page at Tesla’s Website will show you that the ‘Musk Price’ for the Entry Level Tesla Model S 70 Rear Wheel Drive, is “$52,500 after Incentives and Gas Savings” so about half of your $100,000 idea. The Model S 70 (Single Motor) with Options: Autopilot Convenience Features, Premium Interior & Lighting, Smart Air Suspension, Ultra High Fidelity Sound, Subzero Weather Package, AND the Rear Facing Seats = $84,500 Cash Price + $1,200 Delivery & Doc Fee or $85,700 + Tax which at 8.5% = total: $92984.50 – $7,500 Tax Credit back to you = Net Cost of $85,484.50. The Switch to a 90D = a Cash Price of $102,500 + $1,200 Destination and Doc Fee for a total of $103,700 + 8.5% Tax = $112,514.50 – the Fed Tax Credit of $7,500 = $105,014.50 And – those prices include the Rear Facing Kids Seats at $3,000! So subtract that and the 90D = $101,759.50 After Taxes & The Tax Credit, while the 70 with just rear wheel drive only = $82,229.50! Drop the Premium… Read more »
Larry
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Larry

Well, 1% of 350,000,000 people is still a lot of people. Heck, even 0.01% is a pretty good market for new airplanes.

G2
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G2

+1

RalphB
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RalphB

I need slightly more range than the current Leaf has. Planned to go with a 2016 Leaf on lease for 3 years while waiting for the 3. But with no info from Nissan, visited the new Tesla sales/service center 3 miles from my home. After an amazing test drive, ordered a close to base S for delivery in late October.

Brian_Henderson
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Location, location for the win!

“The LEAF I saw was parked at Nissan HQ in Franklin TN and had Manufacturer tags on it”

The “Forged Bronze” color is much darker than I had expected. Perhaps I was envisioning a Brilliant Bronze color. (ie: a lighter metallic, like Brilliant Silver)

jim stack
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jim stack

I still haven’t spotted the first Tesla S70 or a 2016 LEAF in the Arizona area. I’d love to sit outside the Nissan tech center here in Stanfield,AZ since I have heard Tesla and others are using that location for testing.

Anon
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Anon

The bronze is not a good color for the current gen Leaf. I think white, is the most tolerable color for them. 😛

kubel
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kubel

I’m going to head over to Nissan Tech Center this weekend to see if I can spot any in the wild. I did see some test LEAFs there before.

JImGord
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JImGord

Forged Bronze is a sugar coated way of saying “brown”. Brown cars never sell well.

Stephen Hodges
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Stephen Hodges

Metallic dirt, might interest people fed up with washing off

Larry
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Larry

Maybe so, but the seven of the nine cars I have bought in my lifetime have been some shade of brown. My Leaf would have been, if it were available. (BTW – absolutely hated my black Dodge Lancer!)

offib
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offib

You’d be surprised! Go to Ireland or the UK and spot some Nissan Quasqais / Rogues. They’re the one of the most popular car sold in this region and I can tell you that the new one comes in chocolate brown and I’ve seen boxes of them! True, brown is naturally rare since the 70s ended but there’s a lot of these in it! The Quasqai also comes in Pimp Purple with looks rather fresh!

The brown on a LEAF (eeeeaugh) should do well by doing what black paint does (hide it all) but show some colour in the sun to just barely shine a few flattering lines.

Dragon
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Dragon
If the 2016 Leaf SV comes in with ~110 mile range for ~$199 lease I’m all over it. I wrote an email to a local Nissan dealer that’s been known to be fairly EV friendly asking if I could get on a waiting list or if they’d let me know when it was in stock… First I got a form letter response saying to call to schedule a test drive. Huh? I asked again and got no response… >=I But this dealership is actually selling a NEW 2015 Leaf S in black for $16.5k – half the MSRP. It’s tempting but I really need that extra range… It seems like most of the Leafs that remain in stock and a lot of the available used ones are black. Considering that black cars use more energy in warm climates to keep cool, and that heat damages the batteries, I’m not surprised that color seems to sell more poorly. But I AM surprised that Nissan would introduce another dark color to the 2016, especially a dark color that isn’t generally a popular color. Unless they think the earthy brown will appeal to environmental EV buyers or something? Seems weird. I’m happy about… Read more »