200-Mile, $30,000 Electric Chevrolet Bolt To Debut Monday At 2015 NAIAS

JAN 10 2015 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 253

Chevrolet Volt EV Concept Debuts

Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept Debuts

GM Sits On The "Bolt" Name In Recent Filing

GM Sits On The “Bolt” Name In Recent Filing

Back in August 2014, General Motors filed a trademark for the name “Chevrolet Bolt.”

UPDATE:  The Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept has indeed been revealed – all the details, pics, specs and videos can be found here.

Now we’re learning that the Chevy Bolt might well be the 200-mile pure electric car that General Motors officially confirmed 3 months ago.  If true, then we won’t see a 200-mile Chevy Sonic, but rather something similar to it in size, but pure electric and called the Bolt.

*Note: If you seek more details on this 200-mile electric Chevy, then you’ll want to check out the comments on this article (or perhaps below in the comments on this article) titled “REPORT: GM Working With Focus Groups On 200 Mile EV Rollout?” We deleted most of the contents of the article itself upon request, but the comments section contains exclusive information on the 200-mile Chevy EV.

Additionally, the Wall Street Journal and other sources are now reporting that the Chevy Bolt will be unveiled on Monday January 12 at the 2015 NAIAS.

This 200-mile electric car has been in the making for sometime now at General Motors.  In fact, former CEO Dan Akerson confirmed GM’s 200-mile electric car some 2 years ago.

So, it’s a given that this car exists and that it’s been in development for quite awhile, but now it appears that it will finally debut in Detroit on Monday at the 2015 NAIAS?

Here’s what the Wall Street Journal says:

“General Motors Co. plans to launch a $30,000 electric vehicle called the Chevrolet Bolt that would be capable of driving 200 miles on a charge by 2017, according to people familiar with the strategy, a move to gain ground on Tesla Motors Inc.”

“GM will show off a concept version of the Bolt on Monday at the Detroit auto show, eight years after the auto giant disclosed it would re-enter the electric car market with the Chevrolet Volt.”

“The Chevy Bolt, carrying a more capable battery manufactured by South Korea’s LG Chem Ltd. , will be aimed squarely at Tesla’s forthcoming Model 3, a $35,000 electric car also slated to debut in 2017. The concept version of the electric car will be a hatchback designed to look more like a so-called crossover vehicle, according to people familiar with the design.”

Original CrossVolt Trademark Filing.  This Filing Was Recently Extended By GM.

Original CrossVolt Trademark Filing. This Filing Was Recently Extended By GM.

Hmm…a hatchback designed to look more like a so-called crossover vehicle? Might that be the CrossVolt then.  It too has been rumored to be ready for debut at the 2015 NAIAS.

It’s believed that General Motors CEO Mary Barra will be the one unveiling the Bolt (CrossVolt?) at the 2015 NAIAS.  The Wall Street Journal states:

“The Bolt represents the biggest risk taken by Chief Executive Mary Barra since taking GM’s helm a year ago. Its development was approved when she was product chief under former CEO Dan Akerson . But U.S. gasoline prices have fallen below $2 a gallon this year, hurting demand for electric cars.”

“For Ms. Barra and other GM engineers, the Bolt’s proposed 200-mile range is critical because it is seen as addressing concerns about range long associated with electric cars, one person involved in the car’s development said. “Two hundred miles is seen as some sort of barrier where the notion of range anxiety goes away,” this person said.”

Update: Here it is - Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept

Update: Here it is – Chevrolet Bolt EV Concept

In terms of sales volume, we expect General Motors to shoot for the moon with its 200-mile electric car and so to does the Wall Street Journal:

“By placing the Bolt in the high-volume Chevrolet line and giving it a name similar to the Volt, executives hope to polish Chevy’s image as a full-line vehicle manufacturer prepared to meet demand, regardless of prices at the pump, according to people familiar with the strategy. GM expects the Bolt to compete globally, including in markets such as China. It is unclear if a car similar to the Bolt would be inserted in the Opel, Cadillac or Buick brands down the road.”

As for competing with the Tesla Model 3, it seems GM is ready to take on Tesla with this 200-mile electric car.  Range is spot on in regards to what we expect of the Model 3 and pricing will easily undercut the Model 3 if the $30,000 rumor is correct.

Update from “sources”:  $30,000 price tag is now considered to be the number after the $7,500 credit is applied

LG Chem is believed to be the battery supplier for the 200-mile electric Chevy:

“LG Chems’s battery improvements to make it possible to for GM to create the low-cost EV include better durability and electrical controls. Also, LG will use more of the available storage capacity in the cell than it does on the Volt.”

“We have progressed far enough that it gives us a high level of confidence that in the 2017 kind of a time frame, there are no show stoppers or gotchas that we don’t know how to get over,” Prabhakar Patil, the chief executive of LG Chem Power Inc., the U.S.-based battery arm of the Korean electronics giant, said in an interview.”

The 2015 NAIAS is shaping up to to a big event for fans of plug-in electric vehicles.  We’ll be on the scene to catch all of the reveals.  Press days start on Monday, so check this space often in the coming days to see how the show develops and to catch the unveilings as they happen.

Editor’s Note:  Don’t forget that we will have all the next generation of Chevrolet Volt news, info and specs you can handle late Sunday/early Monday night from the NAIAS  (look for that at 12:01 AM Jan 12th)

Source: Wall Street Journal

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The White Rendering of the fast back would be fine for a 2-seat variant, but tight (Once again) in the back seat for a 4-5 seat variant!

The CrossVolt Rendering is an interesting variation of the HHR Styling, with more glass!

However GM Does it – if they want to go all out in the All EV World, AND Compete with Tesla – they will need to stick their favorite Fast Charger (CCS) out there every 100 – 150 miles apart on the roads and bunches of them in Cities, if they wanted to Really Compete! (Still might not beat the Model 3 – due to the differences of Supercharging, Styling, Performance, etc.)

GeorgeS

Really a turn off with comments like yours mister Weekly.

This is a big deal for sure. GM will beat Tesla to market with this car and it won’t just be a sonic.

The words seem to indicate that the batteries may not be in a tunnel like the Volt. This would definitely help make the interior more roomy as one would expect on a cross over vehicle.

Mary Barra will introduce it.

Sweet.

LuStuccc

The target is not Tesla or GM, it’s Oil burning cars.

J-Paul

Thank you for saying ;
The target is to have more efficient way to travel and all kind of plug in electric hybrid or not are welcome to replace fuel consuming véhicules.
The most important is to reduce CO2 emissions trying to reduce weather extreme that will cost hundred of billions $ to repair dammages !

DonC
Sorry but your comment is quite clueless. First, GM hasn’t said it’s targeting a Tesla. That’s just a media story line created to make a story where there is none. If anything GM is grateful to Tesla for gaining acceptance for it to come out with the Bolt. Mark Reuss has said as much. Second is that it’s clear that GM isn’t targeting a Tesla. Unless you’re a moron, if you’re GM and want to target Tesla the LAST thing you do is make the car a Chevy. You make it a Cadillac and equip it appropriately. If you look at the product, it seems the “target” would be the Nissan Leaf and/or maybe the BMW i3. Look harder and it should be clear that the “target” is the CARB and CAFE mandates. Third, anyone in their right mind would know that Tesla is not going to make and sell a car for $30K. The transaction price for a Model S is nearing $100k, the Model X is more expensive, and there isn’t a lot of cost savings to be gained by making a car smaller. Fourth, there is no Tesla to target. All we have is a statement that… Read more »
jstack6

DC, It has been in the news for over a year that Tesla always has planned a smaller more affordable car. They have the trade marked name Tesla GEN III.
Elon said it will be shown at the end of 2015 and released in late 2016. The new Gigafactory is to allow that to happen.
I even have a web site about it.

http://teslawanabeowners.webs.com/

RedLeafBlueLeaf

“Elon said it will be shown at the end of 2015 and released in late 2016. The new Gigafactory is to allow that to happen.”

He also said the Model X would be released in mid-2013. We’re still waiting.

Look, I love what Tesla is and wish them all the success in the world. But it’s crazy to take Elon’s future forecasts as if they are a certainty. The model 3 is currently an early phase R&D project. The goal is apparently a 200-mile range EV with a price tag after tax credits in the upper 30s. Will they make it? We don’t know, and neither do they. A few months ago in response to criticism about the neverending delays in the Model X Elon asserted that “People don’t understand how hard it is do deliver a product like this.” Actually, a lot of people do, but clearly Elon and Tesla did not.

The only safe thing to conclude is that Tesla’s long range “roadmap” planning includes a competitor to to LEAF with at least twice the range. With zero specifics.

LuStuccc

May you provide some sort of reference for your quote?i
I think you made it up.
The Model X is delayed because of the wild success of Model S . No more urge of cash the Model x was about, and plenty of time to perfect it some more.
Good strategic decision .

Get Real

You just made a contradictory statement REDLeafBlueLeaf.

Since Elon made the statement “People don’t understand how hard it is do deliver a product like this.” as you noted, how can it be that (your words) “…clearly Elon and Tesla did not.” Understand this???

You should read my comment to DonC as I think you are both totally misconstruing these things.

Tim M

I believe it was an intended jab at Tesla. Elon Musk doesn’t know how long it takes to deliver a car like this because he himself was so grossly off of his own release date. Read it again and you’ll get it.

I’m sorry, no… Elon Musk was specifically asked if the $35,000 price tag for Tesla Model ☰ was a consideration after Federal Tax Credits and the answer was, “No.”

That is because that program begins to gradually fade away the instant a company has produced 200,000 eligible units for the US Market. If Tesla hasn’t crossed that mark by mid-2017, they’ll certainly cross it by the end of the year. So no one buying the Model ☰ should count on receiving the full $7,500 incentive. It will diminish once per quarter until it goes away completely. Since the Model X will likely be a very good seller on US shores, Tesla Motors will cross that 200,000 unit finish line far quicker than anyone thinks possible.

Alonso Perez

Of course the Model III will exist. You can say that it will be late, and probably more ecpensive than rhe current price target.

But there is nothing in the history of either Musk or Tesla that suggests that the car will never be released. That’s just a short seller’s fantasy, like the idea that the S was never going to be built.

The III is coming, and will be much cheaper than the S. Cost savings will come from the gigafactory and volume, not just from reduced size.

Tom

Sadly, Tesla’s current factory is at about 20% utilization. If they wanted to build a cheap electric car, they have the space. The giga factory will be there undoing, as they have no target audience. The leaf is underselling, the i3 and tesla are rich mans toys. The new Bolt still doesn’t come into a price bracket were rapid acceptance will occur. The world is waiting for a sub $20k electric. With all the headaches for charging, reduced winter range, and general I can’t go see the relatives 1000 miles away on a weekend, there’s a lot to overcome to get a high volume electric out there. Bigger batteries are a good start, but with them comes longer charging times. I for one can’t wait to see how this all pans out.

Get Real

Well Don, I see your at it again. Your a smart guy, but on the subject of Tesla you tend to lose a lot of your IQ points every time you make a statement like ” something which doesn’t and likely will never exist.”

Really? I guess that GigaFactory that is rapidly rising out of the dirt is for nothing? You and anyone else betting against Tesla have already been and will certainly continue to be very disappointed. Probably the Model 3 will trail this Bolt and it will likewise be more expensive but it will also be a much nicer car.

Look I know you don’t like Elon Musk and that’s ok. What isn’t smart is you let your emotions cloud your thinking and your normally intelligent comments suddenly go off the deep end to much regarding Tesla.

Anyways please don’t take this wrong as its meant to be a constructive criticism.

I think we can all be happy here. A 200 mile EV not from Tesla is serious progress and I’m sure Musk is very happy because his goal all along was to prod the laggard OEMs into doing the heavy lifting of his goal of vehicle electrification.

FairMinded

I like the way you think!

The target market is more likely the Nissan Leaf which is selling briskly, especially in Georgia (highest volume selling Nissan product in Atlanta).
Including other products in that space; the Chevy Spark is already available, but very limited availability.
Others in that market and more product coming available: Mitsubishi I, Kia Soul, BMW i3 (not price point but vehicle type), Ford Focus, new VW all electric, etc. Lots of choices, and all electric

Lustuccc

Remember in 2009 the Volt was announced as a series-hybrid oonly with 230 MPG ?

and this?
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1034168_2011-chevrolet-volt-talk-about-limited-production

pjwood

Shrewd comment. Tesla has accelerated its supercharger plans for 2015, per maps. The northeast is rockin’. They also slowed down the Model X launch, which means Model E can’t be too far along. They could become to a major OEM, what Porsche is to VW, but this game is about to suffer delays less, and less.

pjwood

..sorry, George. I meant Robert this time. CCS is a very tall order, for the segment Tesla is conquering. If anything, I’d agree that Bolt variants can beat Tesla, but it’s always been about what GM markets, in any space.

RAV4 EV AZ

Well said George.

I will have to say hats off to GM if this comes to frutrition. All electric 200mi holy grail, a sucsesfull Volt and a Crossover Voltec! At a price point Making them vehicles for the masses.

We would buy a crossover Volt to complement our BEV.

Hi George, Sorry – not much I can do about my 6’3″ Tall Frame – it is what it is, and the Volt does not work for tall people in the back seat, that is just how it was shaped. It is a 4-Door Vehicle, and I test all such vehicles as to fit for myself – first in the drivers seat, and then – for space behind the seat as set for me up front! If it was a 4-seat, 2 Door, Vehicle, my references might be the same, but with less critical terms, since I don’t consider 2 door vehicles the same as I do 4 door vehicles. I know it was designed for the Aero benefits, but I also know that there is a flat spot back at the lip at the back of the hatch/trunk lid, and the flat length of it could be moved to the roof line to get more headroom farther back, and bring the taper tight to the lip of the truck at the very back. The Target figure of the ‘200 mile range’ for a BEV is precisely the figures first mentioned by Tesla some time ago for their ‘Third Generation’… Read more »
Lad

Alas. I wish the car was real; but, I must confess I floated that as an idea on a post. Even made up the name “Bolt.”cause I thought if I were an engineer working for GM, that’s what I would call it.

Actually, I greatly hope it was a premonition of the truth…Sorry, if I caused a problem, it was meant to be humor.

Lad
Waiting

Could this possibly be the start of auto makers making 200+ mile range BEV’s instead of the pathetic industry standard of <100? Let's hope so. Now id rapid charging comes with the package, yahoo!

Alaa

2015 or 2017?

Joakin

They could do the two options ,one bolt all electric and the actual model with extended range,so they Would compete with the leaf and tesla.
Like bwm deos with the i3

It’s not much of a technology leap to toss in a gasoline engine to power a car!!! We already have that.

Bro1999
IDK

+1 Thank You for posting!

Benz

Well, I haven’t heard anything so far regarding some kind of a (secret) GM charging station network for enabling Chevrolet Bolt customers to do long distance driving in North America (US + Canada), let alone that it would be free for them to charge there?

lithium

+1

shawn marshall

how do you sell Volts when Bolts are coming?

hope they can make the range and price figures stick. Had difficulty with that in the Volt roll out and it was part of the skeptical eye rolling for electric cars. If the winter range is 150, I think that is still plenty good for a sweet spot. Other care makers will have to answer – many of our
Korean friends.
prices should come down even more as these techs get more shake and bake like ICEs. Wish it was not so far off – that seems a bit bogus huh?

Chris O

Yes, how do you sell Volts when Bolts are coming…Voltec really is the bridge technology to span the time frame until an affordable long range BEV becomes feasible.

The fact that a next gen Volt is in the works indicates that GM isn’t quite as close to bringing an affordable long range BEV to the market as the hype suggests.

Lustuccc

“feasible”?!? A mass marketed EV1 Ni-MH (125 miles range) would have done the trick 15 years ago!
Don’t you know that GM and the other ICE car makers protect their lucrative markets and their big brother big Oil?

Lensman
Seriously, the GM EV1? I guess you think everything in “Who Killed the Electric Car?” was actually true. Even if the 125 miles you claim was the average real-world driving range– and it wasn’t; even for the 2nd generation NiMH battery pack, it was more like 70-90 miles when it was new, obviously decreasing with age– GM couldn’t possibly have afforded to sell the car at a price that 99% of buyers would have been willing to pay. Nor do most car buyers want a cramped two-seater that has most of what should be luggage space taken up by the battery pack. Sure, there were (and still are) a group of loyal, outspoken EV1 leasers who would have loved to buy the car at the price GM would have sold it for, had it been for sale. The same thing more recently for the RAV4 EV, which -is- sold rather than just leased. But in both cases, it was/is a “test market” car sold far below the price that would reflect the true cost of manufacture. We EV enthusiasts should stick to actual facts. Let’s leave the tactics of citing outlier figures and ignoring “inconvenient” facts to the EV bashers.… Read more »
Lustuccc

The EV1 had a retail price tag of $44000 (-$9000 incentives)

And for the RAV4 and the Altra those were only conversion from ICE cars with not much more costs.

LuStuccc

And yet, you describe what ressemble a lot like the Roadster, and a car that people got arrested in their protests to keep them and offered to pay a good price to GM.
When in the car history did a car company took back more than a thousand perfectly working cars and cruched them?

Tom

The EV1 had no retail price. It was lease only.

Lustuccc

I posted links with facts to help you reconsider your opinion (maybe). They are slow to appear…

Lustuccc

Here is what seems to be a serious thorough test drive.
His conclusion after 2 days tests.

“Based on my experiences the last few days, I foresee typical driving ranges with an NiMH EV1 like this:

Freeway commuting with minimal stop and go: 130-150 miles per charge

City driving mixed with freeway (including “performance demonstrations”): 100-130 miles per charge

Worst case – hard use including driving in the hills: 75-100 miles per charge”

And in the late ’90s at some point, competition *really* mattered.

Toyota RAV4-EV (120 miles) and Nissan Altra (R’Nessa) EV (120-140 miles)

Sorry the posts with links do not pass through.

Maybe you could reconsider your opinion about the “genuine” efforts of at least those three big car makers…

Lustuccc

Maybe this way :

http://tny.cz/92242dfc

It is my whole answer with the links.

Anon

Did GM license the CG Dog for vehicle mascot, yet? 😉

Also, Tata Motors already has a vehicle named “Bolt”…

Chris5472

+1 for the dog
And interesting fact about Tata. Did GM secretly purchase the name rights from them ? It who had it first ?

Anon

Wondering if GM cross licensed the name and is going to shove batteries in it, for sale in the US to reduce cost. It is a small crossover form factor… *shrugs*

Lustuccc

nice!

IDK

If that is it…I’ll take a Tesla 🙂

wavelet

Well, AFAIK the Tata isn’t sold in the US, but Yamaha already has a cruiser motorcycles named Bolt.

I think that Tata (and BYD) only does fleet sales in the US currently. So, private businesses and government organizations have access to their products here. Their vehicles are typically not deployed on public roads, but used in closed facilities such as docks and airports. Some of their buses may be used by local municipalities though.

Ziv

The current Sonic platform is an older one, but it is 6″ shorter than the current Volt platform, which is going away when the 2016MY Volt arrives later this year. So the new Sonic sized BEV will probably not be on the current Gamma II platform, so there is no way to say how big it will be. My money is on the wheelbase going from the Gamma II’s 99.4″ to somewhere around 102″. The Volts current 105.7″ wheelbase with the Delta II platform will probably be a thing of the past soon. The D2UX platform looks to be significantly longer. Guess we will know Monday morning.

Ziv

I just realized that the Gamma II isn’t as old as I thought it was. It debuted just 5 years ago. I wonder if the Bolt will ride on it or on an electric intent platform…

Spec9

Bad move. Length is the way to go. It gives you more room for zero additional drag. There is a reason plane s are all shaped like long tubes with wings.

Tmac

Eric thanks
Surprised this is not front page news!
Eric I would be curious on your take of the assertion that this risky given current low gas prices?

Typical WSJ sloppy reporting in my opinion : ” low gas prices have hurt EV sales” ???
Don’t think so, record number of tesla and leafs sold
Yes the volt sales are down but it is EREV. WSJ does not get it
Low gas prices boost SUV and pickup trucks and hurt Corolla and Prius sales.
Pure EV sales are not dependent on gas prices. Motivation is to get OFF oil, not use less.

scott franco

WSJ is thoroughly anti-EV biased in their stories. They cherry pick facts, combine the worst features of different cars to make points, and other nice touches. I wrote them about a EV dis piece that had about 5 such distortions in it, which they declined to publish (they have published other letters of mine). I am a regular WSJ reader, but EVs are one of their major blind spots.

Sam

The bolt rendering looks hideous. DOA.

Cross bolt rendering has potential if it’s big enough to be close to a midsize.

I’d be amazed and very impressed if GM did a 200 mile BEV. If a crossover, GM could do very well.

Anon

The “Bolt” in the article’s image, feels a lot like a Honda CR-Z clone, to me.

And that wasn’t a big seller… Making an electric version, might not help.

Rick Danger

The CR-Z just didn’t have performance to go with its looks, nor fuel economy to go with its hybrid status, which made it pretty much a two-time loser.
A Bolt, with 200 miles of range and halfway decent performance could do just fine.

Puzzlegal

looks like it has terrible visibility to me.

Lou Grinzo

At the risk of stepping into a GM-related war of words here, I would say:

1. I really, REALLY hope they can announce a $30k/200 mile EV, simply because of the ripple effect it would have on competitors, most notably Nissan and the next gen Leaf.

2. I’m not thrilled about a 2017 ship date, but having to hurry up and wait for technology is a major theme in my life, so I’m (more or less) used to it.

3. I’m not assuming the Bolt or anything else beyond the Volt 2.0 will be announced by GM in Detroit, or that any ship date for the Bolt, if one is announced, will be met. I’ve reached the point where I trust car companies about such things roughly as far as I can throw one of their vehicles. Doesn’t matter if it’s GM, Nissan, Tesla, etc.

4. Next week is gonna be a blast.

Marshal G

+1 on all points.

I welcome all new EV’s for the simple fact that none will satisfy everybody. Some people won’t buy GM due to a grudge, Nissan because it’s not a US company, or Tesla because they’re not union. I won’t buy Kia because of the extremely poor quality of a Rio I once owned. I think it’s a little overblown, because the high conquest rates or whatever it’s called for all EV’s prove that they have the ability to make people forget past brand loyalties. I think the majority of readers on this site would prefer a Model S but realistically it comes down to price and availability of the next reasonably affordable long range EV to hit the market.

David Murray

I would actually prefer a BMW i3 rex over a Model S.

GSP

Wow. Since price is not a consideration, the only thing the i3 has over the Model S a smaller, easier to park size.

I much prefer the Chevy Volt over the i3 REX. The Chevy has a much more useful range extender.

GSP

DonC

You don’t know whether the $30K is with or without the tax credit. You also don’t know how real the base price is. So don’t get too excited by any number you see at this point.

Major car companies do not miss shipping deadlines by any significant amount of time.

Oh, we know…. The Chevrolet website specifies the approximate $30,000 price as being ‘After federal tax incentives’ on the page that introduces the BOLT:

http://www.chevrolet.com/culture/article/bolt-ev-concept-car.html

Spec9

What? *checks to make sure it is not April 1st*

ffbj

A calendar?

Chris O

It would be great if GM were to offer a 200 mile BEV. Some nagging questions remain however.

If it takes very large production runs to meet a $30K price target for a 200 mile EV where will all the (big) batteries come from?

If a $30K/200 mile BEV would pretty much kill demand for EREVs, why is GM offering a second gen Volt?

If a 200 mile BEV needs high power charging stations to support it why was Ford, not GM the only participant in the CCS standard that wanted 150KW charger output?

It would definitely appear that GM has never actually planned for a short term production of the 200 mile BEV it’s hyping now.

scott franco

The volt production is half of Leaf (source: this website). I think the answer is that GM already has assumed that Volt will die in the long run. Notice their total lack of push for a volt with longer range (they will do it, but they are more concerned with touting the Wifi on the car).

pjwood

wi fi is free, if you have a smart phone and have some data to spare from your plan. That’s why the techie response to GM and Audi offering wi fi has been a major “wha??”

This post was sent from a 2003 Chevy, with cell phone hotspot (also nothing $$ extra on your monthly cell bill, unlike the OnStar wi fi subscription). If you have a “dumb” phone, go nuts, get GM’s wi fi and enjoy video streaming if you have to.

Scott, you need to define “long run”. Are we talking 50 years? There are a lot of people that will not buy a BEV. These aren’t “ludites”, but people very familiar with the technology that do not want to rely on a BEV. They want the range extender. I think the range extender (in various forms) will be with us for some time. Heck, plug-ins haven’t even reached 1% of the market in the US.

As far as Wifi goes, connectivity FTW. A car’s 4G cell service with powered antenna is better than a cell phone’s. Especially if you have a car-full of people/kids all streaming different content.

Epicurus

Absolutely. The plug-in hybrid will be much more popular in the hinterlands for a long time.

The only problem with the Volt is that GM has never advertised it effectively.

I don’t think GM, or almost any other automaker, will sell EVs in volume until the production price is on parity or better with ICEs.

Corporations don’t sell a less profitable product over a more profitable product. Unless it’s mandated by law because of the unpaid externalities of the more profitable product.

Warren

Agreed. But that won’t stop us from enjoying the benefits of their loss in the meantime.

Great story…Our insurance man does all his driving in and around his little town. The other day he needed to drive to the “big city.” He realized he hadn’t filled the tank on his Volt in 4 months. At the gas station, he couldn’t remember where the gas cap was, and had to get out and look, and turn the car around! 🙂

Traditional automobile manufacturers will wait until it is much more profitable to truly offer battery electric vehicles in a wide fashion. They rely upon the notion that vehicles that are out of warranty will require replacement parts over the course of their useful lifetime. Those parts cost more to the consumer at retail than to the manufacturer at the time the vehicle is assembled. That is a new revenue stream. So if electric cars are built properly, there are fewer parts to wear and replace. Thus you need to have an even lower manufacturing expense to achieve the same aggregate profit margin over the fifteen to twenty years beyond the initial production run of four or five years.

Bill Howland

“….“The Bolt represents the biggest risk taken by Chief Executive Mary Barra since taking GM’s helm a year ago….”

Not so much of a risk… What with London implementing ‘0 polution’ rulings as well as Paris, and some Chinese cities mandating 20% of car sales to be electrics, it looks like a pretty sure bet to me…..

China is going to be where the cars are substantially sold, as is the case now: all the Buicks are designed for the Chinese Market since thats where Buicks are sold, and the leave the crumbs of the Buicks left for the NA market.

Mary seems to have made a very prudent, essentially risk-free gambit.

Perhaps on this vehicle there will be a 6.6 kw dual charger option, to cut the recharge time to under 8 hours.

I can’t believe that some here will not buy a GM EV simply because of the charging speed. I look at it this way: its faster than a BMW burnt out charger.

ffbj

This makes sense in that GM sells most of it’s vehicles in China and is well aware of the market forces therein.
The government mandated, fueled push for ev’s in China will certainly raise demand, and at the least offer a floor of support for said vehicles. The Bolt even looks somewhat designed to appeal the Oriental buyer.

OT: But I thought it was offensive to refer to people as “oriental”. Only objects should be considered “oriental”.

Bill Howland

I don’t object to be called an Occidental. Of course, on here there’s alot of thin skin.

Bill Howland

As opposed to “Oriental”. Notice the capital ‘O’

LuStuccc

Notice the capital “O”

Tedfredrick

That’s not what the dictionary says

SteveHPA
Impact on Tesla? Perhaps in a couple of decades… Tesla, Panasonic, and its other partners are spending $4-5 billion together to create a supply of lithium ion batteries for Tesla equal to the world’s total lithium ion battery supply last year (vehicles being just a tiny fraction of where that supply was used). That new supply at Tesla’s planned Gigafactory will allow Tesla to make 500K vehicles per year around 2020, or 0.5% of the expected global auto market that year. According to the WSJ, GM has access to a supply of batteries from LG Chem that will allow them to make 20K Bolts… 1/25th of what Tesla is building supply for. Tesla is running to long range EVs at full speed, GM is putting a foot in the water. Perhaps if there’s big demand for the Bolt after it’s out, GM and/or LG Chem will decide to spend $4-5 billion for a Gigafactory of their own, so GM’s long range EVs can take 0.5% of global market share in the mid 2020s when such a plant is fully online… if so, Tesla would only have the other 99.5% of the global market to sell their EVs to.
tftf

Or how about GM and LG building smaller, but more plants on a rapid scale until 2020?

Remember that LG supplies or will supply many other OEMS with batteries (Volvo, Renault…).

They aren’t amateurs and have a planning department. If orders pour in, they will expand factory supply as needed.

Because of import taxes, it may make sense to locate plants in all major markets (NA, Asia and Europe…).

SteveHPA

tftf,

whether in one location (as Tesla choose with the Gigafactory) or multiple locations as you are suggesting, building enough plants to double the world’s total lithium ion battery capacity in 2013 is an extraordinary endeavor. yet, even if it were taken on, it would only address 0.5% of the global vehicle market. I think Tesla would do fine “only” having the other 99.5% to sell their vehicles to.

scott franco

I’ll likely end up buying or leasing a Bolt, simply because I need another car besides my leaf and my bar is pretty low. Its tempered by my confidence that GM can mess up virtually anything they do right and the fact that the only other car I ever bought from them was one of the worst disasters of a car ever sold (the Vega).

What matters primarily is the charging picture. Right now the best hope for a Bolt would be a Chademo to Bolt CCS converter, probably supplied by a third party without an ax to grind. I’ll assume the car needs 8-10 hours on my standard l2 charger. It will be enough to suit my needs but far from ideal.

If GM can physically only make 25,000 due to battery limitations, they aren’t likely to be interested in nationwide chargers that only work on their car (and German EV’s). Currently, their are only 50 or so of these specialty chargers deployed in the USA.

So, they could very wisely join up with either CHAdeMO or Supercharger, both of which are far more widely deployed, but are both growing very fast.

What they most likely will do is exactly what they have done with their Spark EV “compliance car”. First and foremost, any limited production EV will absolutley be sold in CARB-ZEV states to meet GM’s regulatory issues.

CARB-ZEV – California’s ZEV program has now been adopted by the states of Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont. These states, known as the “Section 177 states,” have chosen to adopt California’s air quality standards in lieu of federal requirements as authorized under Section 177 of the federal Clean Air Act. Additionally, California’s GHG standards are now federal law. Maine, Washington DC and New Jersey are participating with ZEV initiatives, but are not signatory CARB-ZEV states.

IDK

I’d rather have a $35k Tesla then a $30k GM EV. But happy both are putting out EV’s in the near future.

I have the opposite opinion. GM has been making cars for 100+ years. Tesla is still learning how to build cars and how the business works. If both products perform the same, and the price is the same, I’d go for the established company vs. the start-up.

EV

Tesla’s first car is better than every car GM has ever made and that goes for every other car maker as well

absolutely comical and astounding

LuStuccc

+1

LOL @ the absolutes. Unfortunately you live in a subjective world. The Model S has many flaws and the compromise of refueling time. Not to forget a 6-figure price tag.

I will cross-shop the Model 3, but I’m guessing the only thing I will like better about it than GM’s EV is the SC network. I’m not going to pay too much of a premium for that network.. maybe $4K.

Spec9

Access to the Superchargers would push me toward the Tesla.

Taser54

Ahh, GM has brought it. A crossover based on the forthcoming sonic platform will finally give a practical EV to the masses. Purists, here is your car. Commuters, here is your car. City dwellers, here is your car.

Enjoy.

Now just follow it up w/a nationwide CCS charging network. Don’t rely on governments, just make it happen.

x

+10 !
they definitely have the means, only if they truly wanted

Big Solar

Lets hope so. also hope they actually try to sell the thing…if they really make it. I hope they do.

M Hovis

I just noticed the side view mirrors. Excellent! I bet they have a camera like most modern vehicles, but build a slim mirror design to pass regulation. I like it!

jeppollcat75

This Bolt is fantastic! About a year ago, I became aware of the Chevy Tru 140S concept, which was designed around the Cruze platform, but with a sportier look. I commented on the Volt users forum that I hoped they used this body design for the second generation Volt, and got it to market by the time the lease expires on my 2014 Volt. The Bolt pictured here looks identical to the Tru 140S. Not that I think they were listening to me (who does?), but WOO HOO! I think this is a gorgeous car!!

I love my Volt, but I do want something sportier. And, having driven the Volt for 15 months now, I realize I don’t need a range extender. A 200 mile pure EV would be more than sufficient for me. I may have to extend my lease for a year or two, but with luck I will be able to choose between this lovely Bolt and the Mini Superleggera Vision as my next car.

All I can say is that I sure hope this is the new EV from Chevy.

By the way, here’ a link to the Tru 140s concept: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/09/chevrolet-tru-140s-concept-is-the-meaner-cruze/

Lindsay Patten

I hate to throw water on your enthusiasm but the renderings in the article are just pictures of the concept car you mention run through photoshop by kdawg. As mentioned in the text, the Bolt will be a CUV-style hatch.

The pictures in the article really ought to be more clearly labeled.

jeppollcat75

Yes, I realized that shortly after I posted my comments. Damn. I can only hope that the speculation that it will be a CUV-style car is wrong. We’ll know on Monday.

DonC

Regardless of the exterior design, which I don’t think will resemble the rendering by kdawg, the Bolt will be front wheel drive, will use a single reduction gear, and will be a complete torque monster.

That is my wishful thinking since I love the Tru140S concept so much. I’m glad the Volt Gen2 picked up some of its cues.

Sidenote: we are feeling the crippling weight of non-disclosures/embargos from Detroit this year…this is the longest weekend before a show ever. Hard to sit down and write about some new widgie-woo, new wiper blade feature or EV sales in Zambia right now, lol

Plug-ins are going to be such an exciting space in a couple years. We have waited a long, long time.

Awesome! I will be staying up for the 12:01 AM release.

I also decided to punt the sales predictions until after NAISAS. I really want to hear the Volt 2.0 details before writing down my thoughts.

GM has a couple embargo’d pieces in regards to the 2nd gen. The first lifts at 12:01 am (eastern) Monday…or Sunday night if you will.

The other is for 9am Monday – which doesn’t make a lot of sense (at least to myself) as their live presser in Detroit is at 7:35am -8:00am – which one assumes would divulge the bulk of that news.

Just have to wait and see, (=

Taser54

A few things are certain. The Spark EV was a test fleet for the 200 mile EV powertrain. It will now be replaced. GM and LG have also been operating a Cruze EV fleet for years in Korea. These fleets allowed the engineering for the 200 mile EV to be a quality vehicle and not a hastily released beta vehicle.

Game of perception. For all those “who killed the electric car” types. GM has brought forward the practical, everyman EV. Time to give GM credit.

Is it ok if I wait until they actually deliver a car?

Stuart22

Don’t be a party-pooper. Have faith in an American company for a change. The old GM is gone, replaced by a different ethic.

Can you give us a teaser, like what companies have the non-disclosures/embargos?

tftf

I assume most embargos will be lifted on Jan 12 and Jan 13?

Everything show specific is lifted on the 13th

12:01AM ET? CT?

pjwood

ET

Robster

Cool Jay, will be refreshing the site every 5 seconds:-)

Marc

Two things to follow:

1) Tesla’s share value on Monday: many investors assume part of its share price is due to speculation that the Model III would be the 1st mass produced 200-miler.

2) Future battery technology announcement: either manufacturing tech has had a breakthrough or there is a totally new battery chemistry involved.

These sure are exciting times!

kubel

They should seriously call it the EV1.

Whatever

The EV2 rather

Ryan

has a range of 200 miles before it’s first recall!!

How many recalls did the Volt have? Exactly. Now go get some much needed troll sleep.

Murrysville EV

“But U.S. gasoline prices have fallen below $2 a gallon this year, hurting demand for electric cars.”

That statement by the WSJ is demonstrably incorrect. Demand for hybrids is down, but not pure EVs.

pjwood

U of MI has a stat, to track the damage of gas prices on efficient cars as a group. It is the averages sales weighted mpg of cars sold, monthly:

http://www.umich.edu/~umtriswt/EDI_sales-weighted-mpg.html

I don’t see a bed of roses for EV’s, in 2015.

voltowner

I can see it now! The new Chevrolet Bolt Electric Vehicle at participating dealers only in CA and OR. Pure electric fun for those two states only!!!

David Murray

Yeah. I havee a sneaking suspicion as well that it will be a compliance car only.

Stuart22

I have an opposite take – GM’s going to go whole hog out on EV/EREVs starting this year. My reasoning – I suspect they’ve cut a bigtime deal with LG promising volume in return for rock bottom costs. GM’s take on potential demand is positive enough for them to take the gamble. 2015 is going to be an exciting year where things accelerate – the door is now kicked open and away we go!

scott franco

I don’t get the logic at all. If its just a compliance car, why give it premium range?

If GM is not going to follow the “hydrogen herd”, then they will have to sell this car in the following states starting in 2018 (hydrogen is exempt and will be sold in California only):

CARB-ZEV – California’s ZEV program has now been adopted by the states of Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont. These states, known as the “Section 177 states,” have chosen to adopt California’s air quality standards in lieu of federal requirements as authorized under Section 177 of the federal Clean Air Act. Additionally, California’s GHG standards are now federal law. Maine, Washington DC and New Jersey are participating with ZEV initiatives, but are not signatory CARB-ZEV states.

James

Range is nice, but I dont want a car smaller than the Volt. I certainly don’t want a $30k Sonic. The lease is up on my Volt in a year, and I’m still unsure what we would replace it with. If used Tesla’s drop below $50k, then I’d much prefer a used Model S to a new Volt.

The sonic is bigger than the Volt, IMO. Maybe you are thinking of the Spark. Personally, I don’t want a car as big as the Model S or want to pay $50K. I’m assuming the Model 3 will be smaller and cheaper. It will be fun to cross shop if that comes to pass.

Well the wheel-base not so much, but the hatch area is taller.

GSP

The Spark is an A-class size, and the Volt is a C-class car. I think the Sonic is a B-class.

GSP

1.) I think GM can pull off a 200mile EV better than Tesla

2.) Tesla holds the cards for a nationwide fast-charge network. (this is important to me)

Conclusion: It will be an interesting battle between the Model 3 and the GM car (if this is real).

EV

You think wrong.

GM doesn’t have a car that comes anywhere close to the Model S, not in their entire car production history.

How the hell do you think GM could possibly make a better car? ROFL

GSP

GM’s entire history?

Not even the pre-war Packards and the Cadillac V-16’s?

GSP

QCO

He’s talking about the Model 3, not S. And the Model 3 will be subject to the same cost reduction techniques used by others in order to get to the price point, so it’s a valid comparison.

But the important unanswered question would be whether GM intends to produce the 200 mile BEV in volume and make it widely available, like the Volt, or if it will be in limited or compliance volume like the Spark.

Clearly this announcement is designed to show that Tesla doesn’t have an exclusive lock on affordable 200 mile BEV technology, and from that perspective it will be a success. But if it is not widely available in volume in 2017, then it is just as much vapourware as the Spark EV is to the 250 million Americans that are not able to buy one today.

pjwood

+1. This is so much more about will, than talent.

RE: talent. Nobody knows where LG Chem vs. Tesla are, or will be, with $$/kwh. Too many posts in this thread presume too much.

Putting value in a cheaper car is where the competition gets fierce.

It is awesome that we can start having the debate of which maker can make a better 200 mile EV.

That said, I think Tesla will win on vehicle features, performance and style (my taste). GM will definitely win on price and probably reliability. The one place Tesla has a huge lead is EV UI and software (and of course SuperCharging).

You could almost replace the vehicles with 3 series and Camaro and come up with the similar conclusions.

Having the choices is what will grow the market.

Alex

Would be a great day, and the end of Mirai! In your face Toyota!

Martin T

So we can shelve the 2016 Volt and go straight to the enthusiast BOLT

Yes ?

M Hovis

Nope. Still two different applications, though they just got a lot closer. Also 2016 Volt available at latest mid-year 2015 if not sooner. Bolt two years away minimum. So great to see the first wave of gen 2 EVs breaking. Good times.

alainl007

Hello

Chevy Bolt MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT well be the 200-mile pure electric car that General Motors officially confirmed Ahhhhhhhhhhh PATHETIC

Bla bla bla bla GM

GM bashing

EV1 Story is back!!!!!!!!!!! Again

Go Tesla

Lou Grinzo

My biggest worry re: the Bolt is the dealer network. Those guys have really done a lot to hurt the Volt, as some won’t handle it at all, and others only do so in a token way. If GM can somehow spark some enthusiasm among the dealers for an EV, then watch out — we’re off to the races.

Dave

Looks as cool as the early Volt renderings. Too bad the production version won’t look as sweet.

Taser54

It will be a crossover. Won’t look like this. That is a concept car from a few years back.

If it’s based on the upcoming Sonic, I wonder if there would be a hatch & sedan model.

Taser54

Most likely a hatch model based upon the Focus group reports. I don’t imagine there will be variants until this car is proven in the market.

Perhaps something like this

cab

That seems consistent with the description the person who saw the preview months back gave.

I thought that was a preview for the Gen2 Volt only, not a 200 mile BEV.

kubel

Or maybe a 200 mile gen2 volt. Ok, ok, I’m dreaming.

Caotain Bob

Mr. Weekley said: “It is a 4-Door Vehicle, and I test all such vehicles as to fit for myself – first in the drivers seat, and then – for space behind the seat as set for me up front!”

Don’t know aabout you Mr. Weekley, but I make a point of NEVER driving from the back seat. Give me a break. I sincerely doubt your daily drive requireS transporting more than two 6+ ft. Passengers. If so then buy something else, otherwise just STFU. Just sayin’.

Foo

Terrible logo. Looks like “8OLT”.

IDK

The Bolt would be priced in the $30,000 to $35,000 range after incentives, including a $7,500 federal tax credit, sources say, confirming details first reported Friday night by the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/01/11/gm-chevrolet-bolt-tesla/21595233/

Guess the Bolt is no longer a $30k EV…looking like more than $40k now.

SIvad

I figured they wouldn’t price the BEV, especially if it is a small crossover, at $30K when the new Volt will probably also be priced around the same.

They probably want to differentiate between the two with a $7,500 price gap in order to justify the EREV Volt having a smaller battery. They could justify the premium of the BEV Bolt because it has more passenger/cargo volume and a more expensive battery.

Hopefully GM gets the Bolt out the door for sale a few years before the Model 3 comes along. I’m sure GM is also hoping that the Model 3 in the end will come in at a $5,000 price premium over the Bolt.

Bloggin

A 200 mile version of the Volt would be great.

But I think Bolt is just a concept name.

A 200 mile Volt should be something like e-Volt or Volt EV.

unbiased

I maintain what I said several months ago, which is that there will also be two variants of the Volt released tomorrow.

kubel

The Volt is selling in barely enough volume to justify one iteration of the product. I don’t see two products coming out of the same pipeline anytime soon.

Gene Frenkle

I recall Akerson saying that the 200 mile EV would have a generator that could run on different fuels.

taser54

Jay is poised like a spider monkey ready to pounce on the keyboard at 12:01am.

Ok, I admit, I laughed at that…but only because its true.

QCO

Actually all this pre-show Volt news is diverting the InsideEVs team from their training regime (physical exercises, cardio, Swedish massages, protein bars) needed to prepare them for the rigors of attending the NAIAS show….

Wheaties for breakfast, guys….!

TomH

In my opinion the test of whether GM is serious about a 200-mile EV is whether they are also willing to invest 10-20 million dollars in a fast charge network spaced judiciously throughout the country’s Interstate highway system and major population centers.

I am not sure about the full cost of a 480 volt DC charger, but if they could be installed for $25,000 each, then GM could build a nationwide system of 500 chargers for $12.5 million. That’s not a huge investment for a new car. Even at $50,000 each, it could still be done for $25 million.

This is what makes Tesla stand apart. It is not just that they sell EV with a longer range than other manufacturers. It is also that they support these cars with the Supercharger network.

If GM does this, then I’m in. If they don’t, then I’ll probably wait for the Model 3 Tesla.

BTW, I am also surprised that there has been very little discussion of the battery breakthrough that LG Chem must have achieved to be able to offer a 50-60 kWh battery for a $35,000 car.

TomH

One more point. Another critical factor that fast chargers bring to the table in large population centers is that it solves the problem of people live in apartments and can’t do home charging. If all you have to do is drive a short distance once a week for a 40-minute 150-mile range electric fill up, then you don’t need home charging.

In fact, this is the only major drawback I see to the new Volt, which does not support (stupidly, I think) fast charging. There are tens of millions of apartment dwellers that are thus eliminated as potential Volt customers.

Tim M

So, presuming the picture in this article is actually a “Bolt” and not a “Volt” as the caption reads, that demonstrates the name is too close to the Volt to ever be used in a real production model.