1,500 ABB DC Chargers Installed, DC Wallbox Coming Soon

JUL 28 2014 BY MARK KANE 15

ABB Target Market segments in EV fast charging

ABB Target Market segments in EV fast charging

This Spring, ABB stated that it reached the mark of roughly 1,000 installed DC fast chargers of different type. At the same time, ABB announced that the number of sales exceeded 1,300, which means that 300 more were ordered.

Now today we see an update of “1,500 DC chargers delivered“, which at ~4,500 DC fast chargers installed around the world (including Tesla Superchargers), ABB must have more than 30% market share.

Next step for ABB is to move DC fast chargers from public domain to homes. First will be in China with DC wallbox with 10 or 20 kW power for Denza EV customers.

More details on that system (in partnership with Denza) can be found here.

We believe that a similar device will sooner or later will come to Europe and North America and when this happen this could be first such charger on the market ever.

ABB DC wallbox for Denza

ABB DC wallbox for Denza

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15 Comments on "1,500 ABB DC Chargers Installed, DC Wallbox Coming Soon"

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GeorgeS

boy oh boy.
all these different protocols and handles are just too much.

One of the chargers with 3 protocols must cost a fortune. Seems counter productive to the movement.

Most of the cost is power electronics. Adding additional cable sets is relatively inexpensive.

GeorgeS

good point. Maybe they use the same power electronics for the Chadmeo DC and CCS DC. but I think CCS goes to higher kw rating than Chadmeo but I’m not sure.

also on the A/C side in europe it goes all the way to 48 kw (see other article).

scott franco

“Next step for ABB is to move DC fast chargers from public domain to homes. First will be in China with DC wallbox with 10 or 20 kW power for Denza EV customers.”

Not a bad idea. At 30 amps, we are still below what a reasonable house line power can develop. Electric stoves are 40-50 amps, and there is no reason we cannot do 100amps with special wiring.

According to one of the AC power calculator sites, that is 22KW at 100amps/220v, and 11KW at 50amps/220v.

So approximately double or 4 times todays 6KW.

Why would you care? With a 50KWH battery you would care.

Bill Howland

If the occassional rare person installs one of these things, the utility will tolerate it, however, get ready for demand charges and conversion to commercial rates if more than one or 2 of these things are used per neighborhood.

As well as cancellation of any discount EV rates.

A Utility can only offer discounted rates if charging takes place over the entire nightime, to maximize use (and minimize the loading) on the baseload generation.

Mike I

The new eVgo Freedom Station in Mountain View, CA has an ABB Terra 53C CCS charger next to a Nissan CHAdeMO charger. I saw a new Leaf owner initially choose the ABB to charge his car. As soon as he got the handle close to the car it became obvious that it was a different shape.

Anyway, it’s good that the two chargers are independent because two cars can be charged simultaneously, unlike the unit pictured above, which I’m pretty sure can only charge one at a time.

Steve

This DC wallbox is a pretty interesting idea. Once it is installed in your home basically you don’t need a highpower onboard charger anymore. This could make EV’s a lot cheaper.

If it is a CCS wallbox you can use it also with your next EV. I guess most people change their car every 3 years, but the wallbox could stay.
Or you can share it with two cars on the driveway, so both don’t need an onboard charger.

I could really see how this could make EV’s cheaper in the long run.

Martin lee

Steve if you take out the high power charger from the car you no longer have the option for regeneration when breaking, as the same electronics can be used for both. They may not be in current cars as sales are not high enough to drive least cost engineering at the moment.

Djoni

I don’t think so.
The drive unit is the same for regeneration and propulsion.
The charger is, AFAIK, independant of this yet.

Aatheus

Not quite correct. For most EVs, the regenerative braking is being handled by the traction motor and the motor controller. My old and new LEAFs had 3.3kW and 6.6kW onboard chargers, but both have the same 30kW maximum regenerative braking.

Dave K.

Home is the wrong place for DCQC, you’re spending the night, why do you care how long it takes? The place for these is out by the highway, a coffee shop, convenience store, fast food etc. But cheaper and more is of course better.

ptrubey

DC quick charge isn’t needed in homes if you have a big battery like a Tesla. However, if you have a small battery like a Leaf, then it makes more sense.

io

Why? I don’t understand your reasoning here.
3.3kW is already more than enough to fully charge a Leaf overnight…

Aatheus

I would love to see 3 20kW wallboxes installed at the local mall, rather than 1 60kW charger. Or maybe 2 30kW chargers. If nothing else, it provides redundancy against failure. Best case, now 3 cars are charging faster than is possible on 240v for any car except a Tesla.

Anderlan

I wonder if Solar City could get around red tape if they rolled their battery pack in with a Tesla DC charger and didn’t even mention the battery pack? Like, it’d be just a buffered charging station.