Watch Faraday Future’s FF91 Livestream Reveal – Video

7 months ago by Jay Cole 61

Tonight from Las Vegas, Faraday Future will finally reveal its first production-intent electric vehicle, and it is sparing no expense in showing it off…including a stage to demonstrate the EV’s 0-60mph abilities.

Faraday Future: "Go big, or go home" is apparently the motto

Faraday Future: “Go big, or go home” is apparently the motto in Las Vegas today!

We are at the debut live to report on the all the details, and you can also watch the big reveal as it happens from 6 PM (PST)/9PM (EST) right here.

(The above video we be converted to a repeated loop after the presentation)

Update (8:00 PM/ PST): Full details, specs on the Faraday Future FF 91 from after the presentation can be found in a detailed follow-up piece here.

Update (5:57 PM/PST): And we are live..well kinda, if you enjoy the crowd loop.  Live start ETA ~6:15 PM now.

A quick live shot of the stage just ahead of the slightly delayed presentation:

Faraday Future presentation stage (InsideEVs/Tom M)

Faraday Future presentation stage (InsideEVs/Tom M)

Just as an additional advanced note:

Faraday Future has informed us to “…please dress warmly as this event will take place both indoors and outdoors.”

So we are hopeful to get some early ‘first drive’ impressions after the show, as well as a full recap on all the details of Faraday’s first EV as they are revealed.

Video (below): Check out Faraday Future preparations for the big event (Update) …or not, as for some reason Faraday has just removed the video in the past hour:

Below: Here is a screencap of a Faraday Future mule testing out the company’s huge 0-60mph test track earlier.

Faraday Future's "track" getting tested earlier this week

Faraday Future’s “track” getting tested earlier this week

Earlier “mule” race with a Tesla Model S:

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61 responses to "Watch Faraday Future’s FF91 Livestream Reveal – Video"

  1. Terawatt says:

    All their videos manage to push the wrong buttons. The music and the flashes and the grand words, so short on any concrete content, all combine to create an impression that screams “contrived”, “pretentious”, and at times “childish”.

    Most other companies understand you need some street cred before you can start thumping your chest this way. Faraday seems to think feigning confidence achieves the same thing.

    They better have something of substance, not just an impressive stage show.

    1. wavelet says:

      Even if they show an impressive prototype tonight, I won’t really be able to take them seriously.
      I did a quick calculation a few days ago, here:
      http://insideevs.com/faraday-future-will-apparently-launch-dozen-new-vehicles-2026/#comment-1122145
      that they must be spending >$5.5M on salaries alone every month, and that’s without producing anything. It’ll be at least a year until they have something to sell (build additional prototypes, test & iterate, finalize the design, engineer for production, set up manufacturing or a contract manufacturer, homologate in multiple markets, start manufacturing), during which they’ll have a lot more expenses. Even if they do a ton of outsourcing, that’s still a lot of projects to manage and they need to do all the integration.
      By definition, this money wastage and silly hype that’s been getting a lot of criticism means they’re badly managed; even if they manage to find rich investors, it’s highly unlikely they’ll actually make it to series production.

      1. Alex says:

        Where did you get the information that they weren’t already doing all those things you mentioned?

        Is it based on the fact that prototype vehicles have been spotted? Thus they must be only in prototype mode?

        I’m genuinely curious, and don’t meant to bash. I just want to know as much as you do.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          I think wavelet is going on the assumption that Faraday Future is showing a working prototype as soon as it possibly can. Altho we can’t state that as fact, it certainly seems a reasonable assumption. Why would any publicly advertised startup, especially one that’s clearly running short on money, hold back on showing a working prototype as soon as it can? Obviously the sooner they can do that, the better for publicity and for attracting investment money.

          All those other things which wavelet mentioned, happen after development of the first working prototype(s). So again, altho we can’t state that as fact, wavelet’s assumptions seem to be sound. Certainly much, much more believable and realistic than FF’s outlandish, over-the-top, and sometimes obviously impossible claims!

          Oh, and here’s one solid data point we know: FF has negotiated with the State of Nevada to build an auto assembly plant there. They have cleared the land, but no actual construction of any building has commenced. Another data point: It takes about two years to build and fine-tune a factory for mass production. So at best, FF is at least two years away from selling an actual production car… a reality which is sharply at odds with their outlandish claims.

          1. Four Electrics says:

            I think Faraday will eventually finish their US factory, but if be surprised if this car were not initially made in China.

        2. wavelet says:

          Alex, all good questions (-:

          Yes, they’re based on assumptions, not absolute knowledge, and I probably should have made them explicit.
          1) I think we can all agree that the FFZero 1 concept racecar they showed a year ago is totally irrelevant to any street vehicle. [It’s also bizarre — there’s isn’t really any reason to show off concepts of racecars before they’re track-ready — you’re simply giving away info to the competition.]
          However, it still takes significant design effort to display such a concept, even if there’s no drivetrain inside.
          Ergo, the designers have not been working fulltime for 2+ years on the FF91 .

          2) Further, The lead designer, Jin Won Kim (formerly Head Designer at Toyota) has only been working at the company since July.

          3) For all Peter Savagian, who as SVP Propulsion probably has the most important job, talked in the reveal as if he was a co-founder at the company and onboard from the start, he also only joined FF in _August_. He has a lot of EV cred, having worked on EVs as far back as the GM EV1 program — but FF has had time to enjoy very little of it.

          3) As Pushmi-Pullyu said below, I’ve never heard or encountered a startup (and I’ve worked at startups and VCs — I have direct experience with literally hundreds of startups) that didn’t show prototypes as soon as they worked (and sometimes a bit sooner (-: ) — attracting investment and initial customers ASAP is key to survival… Esp. when hemorrhaging money, at >$7.5M / months (revising previous estimate of $5.5M upwards, since they have 1400 employees, not 1000). The famous “stealth mode” only holds until the first prototype is ready.

          4) Before a car design is finalized, multiple prototypes have to drive 10000s of miles, for the iteration process. Not everything can be modeled by computer… This holds even more when’s it’s a brand-new platform, not an update to existing one, and yet further for all the fancy features (signaling via lights, detecting the driver/user from the app… There’re no door handles at all, so AFAICS, if the identification is bungled, the driver can’t get in the car. Wouldn’t want that to happen on a cold night…)
          As far as I know, only a couple of prototypes were seen driving on roads, all in the last few months… It’s impossible to completely hide the number of prototypes that would be needed driving around in various places in the world.
          Even large carmakers, that have large private test areas don’t manage secrecy — FF don’t have that resource.

          5) Once the car is nearly production ready, there’s a whole process of finding all the numerous suppliers, negotiations etc. At that stage, some details inevitably leak from employees, if not about the tech details of the supplied parts, at least about the potential relationship. Haven’t heard anything like that about FF — and a lot of people are watching them, so it would have leaked.

          6) To produce, you need a factory. All that exists of FF’s is ditches in the desert, since they stopped paying the construction company… And Savagian had the gall to call that “Phase 1” in the reveal… Compare with what Tesla means by that phrase when applied to the gigafactory .
          Building a factory takes a long time, as Pushmi-Pullyu says (Tesla bought a ready-made one, they didn’t build from scratch).

          7) You’ll note that they haven’t published full specs on the car, which isn’t just the 0-60 times.
          Conspicuously absent from a near-production-ready car were:
          Curb weight, Top speed, 0-30 and 40-60, braking distances etc.

          Note when in the Bolt’s product cycle that and other items got published…

          8) They spent time discussing “VIP” stuff and taking reservation before giving any of the details about the car (not even range, which was mentioned later).

          They’re claiming deliveries in 2018, but I think it’s 100% never.

    2. AlphaEdge says:

      > “so short on any concrete content”

      I don’t get this. You do know the reveal is in a few hours? Weird.

      You can complain some more after the reveal. /rolleyes

    3. Nix says:

      I agree. They somehow come off as a parody of themselves. Like watching Airplane! as an in-flight Safety Video.

      http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2096966-hilarious-in-flight-safety-videos-watch-and-learn-why-airlines-are-using-them/

    4. jimijonjack&Jill says:

      This has all makings of an “INFOMERCIAL” sounds like much “BS” with the on “Q” hand clapping phony audience…o much s Hungawa

    5. jimijonjack&Jill says:

      I would not trust these guys with a $1 deposit never mind $5000.00..this car is merely an Unproven Prototype a Non existent production car and very Vague at Best .In my observation They have nothing so far yet and are in need of money.I hope they can change this perception soon and Succeed..

  2. floydboy says:

    How about 0-1 fpy(factories per year)!

    1. Yogurt says:

      Or 0-2? as LEco bought land and broke ground on a factory in China last month even though still dont have a license to manufacture cars there…

      1. Michael Will says:

        Which for the American market may mean -2 if it is indicative of a Chinese reaction to Trump. Who knows if Chinese companies are still allowed to funnel $ to the US creating jobs there instead of in China ?

        Excited about the reveal tonight.

  3. ffbj says:

    I did a teaser video of me being over FF. I lasts about 9 seconds.

    1. Nix says:

      sooooooo…..

      NSFW??

      (I keed!! I keed!!)

      1. jimijonjack&Jill says:

        The thing looks like a Toyota Venza These Guys still have a lot of work to do …I hope they can come up with model 3 Like competitor and Succeed at it .

  4. Phr≡d says:

    uhmm.. Jay? whassup?

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Its all good/live streaming now right (well, the exciting crowd loop anyway, lol). Faraday wanted to wait until exactly 5:59 PM…makes it more suspenseful I guess. Have we ever failed to stream yet, (=

  5. Phr≡d says:

    “Have we ever failed to stream yet, (=”
    true and much appreciated..

    by Now, I shoulda’ Presumed the problem was local – as in, auto-updating Flash fail, therefore I needed a manual update.
    Thanks for the quik response!

  6. Phr≡d says:

    15min and counting.. (no fan of this guy, me)

  7. cab says:

    Oh man, is anyone else starting to feel embarassed for this guy?

    1. Mist says:

      It’s sooooo painful to watch!

  8. TM says:

    It just won by a whisker?
    I wouldn’t call that a speed champ. Very fast, yes, but don’t go bragging about being faster than a P100D.

    I hope these guys do well, but I think they will just steal some (1-5%) of Tesla’s customers away. For the Tesla customers who would have gladly paid 2x more for more luxury and other options, but weren’t given the choice by Tesla.

    Good luck.

  9. cab says:

    Ugh, I’m not even a Tesla Fanboi, but this all strikes me as “we are slightly better than Tesla…but will arrive years later”. I mean, even the parking demo was so “last year” at this point…

    The factory video showing dirt being moved…again, like Tesla’s Gigafactory, except, um, without a factory. It’s just so…desperate.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      LOL!

      Doesn’t it get you all excited and tingly to know that Faraday Future has actually hired a construction company to clear the land for a proposed auto assembly plant? I mean, if they can do that, how could anyone doubt they can build a world-class, Tesla-beating car!

      😀 😀 😀

      (Hopefully the /sarcasm tag isn’t needed here.)

      1. Just_Chris says:

        For once I agree with you.

        I am left completely underwhelmed by the whole FF experience. Promising me a car that has even more power, speed, gadgets, hassle, impracticality, etc. than a Tesla or a Bentley is about as enticing a s free vasectomy, even the doors are less practical than a model X, what happens when my phone runs out? how do I get in the car? What happens if I want to leave my phone at home? What happens if my in laws come to visit and I want them to take the car to get milk, do I have to give them my phone or spend 20 mins registering them online? I am really struggling to find a positive here, I know its electric but really what is the point? 2,000 crap patents? If your biggest differentiator from the rest of the automotive world is a blue coke can that raises up out of the front of the car while the car drives itself you’re in trouble.

        This company is like all the worst bits of Tesla with none of the good bits, 1400 employees and you can even make a good job of the presentation? How about showing the car driving at 60 mph onto the stage braking wildly and screeching to a halt inches from the presenter or swerving to avoid him on an oil covered stage. A drag race? who cares? I saw absolutely nothing new or impressive about FF, for what they have spent this is just hopeless. Why couldn’t they have built something? anything? that they could really show off. There are engineering graduates making self driving golf carts that can park them selves using $30 Arduino boards.

        Total fail.

  10. Phr≡d says:

    Fastest ahem -production- EV in the world (2.39sec)

    1. fffure says:

      They claim 2.39
      They can only achieve 2.59 at demo

      And it is not a production car

  11. Phr≡d says:

    every tenth of a point of CD equals 12 miles range – we’ve rached 25 with our station wagon (/s)

  12. Mjp462 says:

    I wish all the luck in the world to FF, but this is hard to watch.

    Parking demo.
    We have land to build a factory.
    We are just barely faster than a Tesla.

    Pathetic brags.

  13. philip d says:

    Everything but the kitchen sink. This is going to be expensive if it every makes it to production.

    4 wheel steering and 4 wheel torque vectoring. And some sort of electrochromic smart glass greenhouse. Yikes.

  14. Phr≡d says:

    but.. I don’t WANNA go to the garage.. -ouch

    1. Mjp462 says:

      Yikes.

    2. cab says:

      Am I a bad person for trying to enable closed captioning?

    3. Phr≡d says:

      ahhh.. turn out the house lights so it can see the line it was programmed to follow (/s)

    4. Phr≡d says:

      The YT ‘driving’ the car on the bright-white line occurred at 1:12 into the presentation if this gets edited out at a later time (i.e., watch the car drive in). The car is able to complete its ‘parking’ demo by driving another 30 feet in complete darkness. hm..

  15. bro1999 says:

    Self park…..Or not. Lol
    What a disaster.

    1. bro1999 says:

      That might have been the true range of the FF91….About 50 feet.

  16. bro1999 says:

    OMG, this guy makes Musk look like a public speaking champion.

    1. AlphaEdge says:

      Seriously? The guy who has a major stuttering problem. LOL!

      1. CLIVE says:

        He is South African, maybe you can be nice.

        1. AlphaEdge says:

          Sorry Clive. It’s not a criticism but just pointing out how inaccurate bro1999 comment is. I have no problems with Elon’s speech issues, as it’s what he is saying what’s important.

          1. CLIVE says:

            Gotcha, thanks for explaining.

      2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        Dude, your jealousy of Elon Musk is showing. It’s showing a lot.

  17. Michael Will says:

    Torque vectoring is cool though… should be great cornering…

  18. Jelloslug says:

    So was there a price ever mentioned?

    1. Phr≡d says:

      premium segment (at least that what I -think- he said)

  19. samhaydenjr says:

    That was all well and good but they didn’t say how big the air filter is!

  20. Phr≡d says:

    As a sarcastic ass regarding this presentation, I’ll fully understand if you ignore me/this as most do, but..

    So, Jay.. whad’id ya Think?

    1. Phr≡d says:

      (and I trust you’ll keep IEV fans up to date on how many $5000 reservations FF receives in 24 hours, since they rather Demanded that obvious comparison — I, personally, cannot Wait to bid on Unit_01)

      1. Phr≡d says:

        ‘cuz I always had a soft spot for the Family Trukster, and a sleek variation would be neeto

      2. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sven says:

        The $5,000 reservation is for an “Alliance Edition” only. The reservations for a regular FF 91 are free, like when Tesla took “reservations” for the original PowerWall.

  21. CLIVE says:

    Wow the CEO acted like he had never seen the car before.

    “You funded it”… he was told !

    1. Phr≡d says:

      ayep – communication does not seem a valuable commodity among the big players shown tonight.

  22. CLIVE says:

    FF needing a serious stylist to dress them all!

    1. AlphaEdge says:

      Be nice! 😉

      1. CLIVE says:

        I was being nice.

  23. ffbj says:

    I fear the future has been put on hold momentarily. We will get back to you on that later. Film at 11:00!

  24. SteveSeattle says:

    I like the styling. Very futuristic and the form is exactly what I would like in a family touring EV. However there seems a bit too much of everything promised and I expect it will way over my price range.
    Irked by the fasted “production” car 0-60 though. It is far from production.

    1. Jelloslug says:

      And all Tesla would have to do is put an ever so slight tweak to the P100D Model S and it would go faster.

      1. Nix says:

        P101DL?