Volkswagen I.D. At The Paris Motor Show – Photos & Videos

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Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen unveiled at the Paris Motor Show a concept compact electric car – the I.D.

It is scheduled for production in parallel to the new Golf, but the bad news is the date – 2020.

With expected range from 249 to 373 miles (400-600 km) using the new MEB platform, it should be a strong BEV.

Volkswagen stated that the 125 kW motor will be good enough for 0-62 mph (100 km/h) acceleration in less than eight seconds.

By 2025, the production I.D. should be autonomous.

With some four years still to go, there remains for us nothing else than to check out how it looks:

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Volkswagen I.D.

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Volkswagen I.D.

Press blast:

REVOLUTIONARY VOLKSWAGEN I.D. ELECTRIC CONCEPT CAR MAKES ITS WORLD DEBUT AT THE PARIS MOTOR SHOW

Sep 29, 2016

The I.D. concept car will become the first Volkswagen built off the Modular Electric Drive kit (MEB). It is due to go on sale in 2020, with a range of up to 373 miles

  • The first Volkswagen in a completely new fleet of highly innovative electric vehicles, based off  the Modular Electric Drive kit (MEB)
  • Immediately recognizable as a zero-emissions vehicle thanks to a newly developed design DNA for electric cars
  • Uses a 168-horsepower electric motor and has a range of between 249 and 373 miles on a single battery charge
  •  Interior offers an entirely new experience thanks to the Open Space concept
  •  Launch will happen in 2020
  •  Concept gives first tangible glimpse of fully automated driving, a mode that will be offered from 2025 onwards
  • Multifunction steering wheel retracts into the dashpad  in fully automated mode (“I.D. Pilot”)
  • Volkswagen has set itself the goal of selling a million electric cars a year by 2025

Think New. – Volkswagen sets a course for the future

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Wolfsburg / Paris, September 2016. Volkswagen is embarking on its journey to the future at the Paris Motor Show with the world premiere of the visionary I.D., a highly automated electric car that will be able to cover a distance of 249 to 373 miles on a single battery charge. The production version of the I.D. is due to be launched in 2020 at a price on a par with comparably powerful and well-equipped Golf models. Volkswagen is looking even further ahead with this concept car: in “I.D. Pilot” mode, it is capable of fully automated driving, a technology that should be ready for series production in 2025. Volkswagen has also set itself the goal of selling a million electric cars a year by 2025 and the production version of the I.D. will make a decisive contribution towards this ramp-up of e-mobility.

Volkswagen has made electric mobility and fully automated driving conspicuous with its innovative exterior design language and with the interior, too: the conventional driving environment has been transformed into the interactive center of a mobile lounge, or a supremely versatile Open Space. The spaciousness of this area and the intuitive, clear functionality allow you to experience mobility in a completely new way.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The I.D. represents the world  “the day after tomorrow”. But the latest generation of the e-Golf, with a zero-emissions range of up to 186 miles (on the European cycle) and new gesture control, will be on the road “tomorrow”. The world of “today” is also visible in state-of-the-art Volkswagens like the new Tiguan, which launched interior digitalization with its Active Info Display and head-up display. The Tiguan, the e-Golf and the I.D. concept car together point the way from the present to the future on the Volkswagen booth.

The I.D. is the first vehicle to showcase Volkswagen’s iconic new design language for compact electric vehicles. The exterior and interior design preview the year 2020 because while the vehicle is currently a concept, the I.D. is expected to be on our roads within the next four years, and its fully automated driving capability gives us a glimpse of the year 2025. Thus, the I.D. is a standard bearer for the progressive Volkswagen brand strategy called “Think New”. This strategy is based on four central areas of innovation, which are also reflected in the new Volkswagen design approach for electric vehicles:

  • Smart Sustainability: Volkswagen is advancing the development of innovative high-volume electric cars
  • Automated Driving: Volkswagen is going to make cars even safer and more comfortable thanks to automated driving
  • Intuitive Usability: Volkswagen has put its focus on vehicles that are intuitive to operate and feature new display and control concepts;
  • Connected Community: Volkswagen will interconnect humans, cars and the environment with a Volkswagen user identity in future

A vehicle concept for a new era

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The I.D. is Volkswagen’s first compact concept car based on the new MEB vehicle architecture. MEB stands for Modularer Elektrifizierungsbaukasten (“Modular Electric Drive kit”) and it was conceived for pure electric vehicles. The ground-breaking MEB thus corresponds with the key mobility requirements of the future. This is why the newly defined vehicle architecture of the I.D. is considered to be a milestone in car development by Volkswagen AG, while at the same time providing the basis for the development of many more all-electric cars. The concept behind the I.D. guarantees the best possible ride comfort, optimum use of space, maximum safety and ground-breaking sustainability, thus redefining the parameters of “drive”, “space” and “comfort”. This is underlined by:

  • The long wheelbase with very short overhangs
  • The front end structure that, in addition to the giving the highest level of safety, allows the front wheels to turn sharply and give a small turning circle of 32.5 feet
  • The flat lithium-ion battery that is  integrated in the floor lowers the center of gravity and results in an ideal axle load/weight distribution
  • The multi-link rear axle with an integrated drive unit and decoupled subframe gives optimum driving dynamics and ideal acoustics
Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

For Volkswagen, the world premiere of the iconic I.D. in Paris marks a watershed. This car is as revolutionary as the Beetle was seven decades ago and the first Golf was 40 years ago, vehicles that went on to become two of the world’s most successful cars of all time. The I.D. has the potential to make history, too. It has been designed to be a compact all-rounder that will help to make electric cars the ‘everyday’ choice, with its impressive electric range and an attractive price.

The driver can activate the fully automated “I.D. Pilot” mode just by touching the Volkswagen logo on the steering wheel. With this, the electrically adjustable and retractable steering wheel disappears into the dashpad to form a single entity flush with the dashboard, boosting the lounge feel inside the car.  The Open Space concept is an all-new interior layout because the architecture of the rear-mounted electric motor and the high-voltage battery in the floor of the vehicle liberates more space and allows greater flexibility and more freedom than was ever possible in a car that’s just over 13 feet long. The I.D. is positioned as a compact electric car with which Volkswagen aims to expand its range of high-volume models in parallel to existing global bestsellers such as the Polo, Golf, Tiguan and Passat.

Connected Community – the new Volkswagen ID

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Anyone who drives a Volkswagen in the future will be given their own Volkswagen ID. The ID is an individual profile, in which the personal seat and air conditioning settings, your favorite radio stations and songs, the sound system settings, the configuration of the navigation system, and the type of ambient lighting, as well as the contact details of the driver’s friends and business associates, are saved. This profile can be securely accessed via the cloud, enabling the I.D. to recognize the legitimate user by their smartphone—the Digital Key—and know who is about to get behind the wheel.

With the I.D. you’ll be at home on the road because, with Volkswagen Home-Net, it will be possible to interconnect your car and home. For example: using cameras in your house you will be able to check whether everything is OK at home from the car. If a family member has forgotten their key, all you need do is call and look into the camera, and I.D. sends the picture to the Active Info Display, so that the driver can open the front door using an app.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

It could even become perfectly normal to receive parcels on the road, since the new Delivery Service in the trunk of your car can act as a mailbox. Studies show that millions of parcels sent in Europe could alternatively be delivered to the trunk of a Volkswagen parked anywhere between Helsinki and Lisbon. If the car owners aren’t at home, I.D. would be able to receive parcels simply and efficiently, or allow them to be collected. The parcel delivery agent is able to locate the car by GPS and is granted temporary permission to open the trunk via an app. The car’s owner is then notified via an app or e-mail as soon as the parcel has been delivered and the trunk is locked again. Volkswagen is currently working with international logistics service providers to implement this innovative concept.

Design

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

“Before we first put pen to paper for the I.D. project, we debated the topic of ‘Mobility in the future’ at length,” says Klaus Bischoff, Head of Design, Volkswagen Brand. “It is clear that the car of the future, and thus the mobile space, will be a place of communication more than ever before. The Open Space in the I.D. is just such a place.”

“The electric powertrain gives our designers far greater freedom. We have shrunk the cooling grilles to a minimum, shifted the axles far outwards and created breathtaking proportions, as demonstrated by the I.D. —an icon of the future. We had the unique opportunity to guide Volkswagen into a new era, and with the I.D we have taken this opportunity.”

From every angle, the I.D. adheres to a new design language for compact Volkswagen electric cars. Cars like the I.D. aren’t mere machines, but cars that react interactively. Everything is neatly laid out: ample space, maximum precision, a charismatic front end, iconic C-pillars, flowing, sculpted surfaces and expressive wheels are just a few of the design signatures for Volkswagen electro-mobility.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

An electric car doesn’t need large cooling intakes, which changes everything when it comes to front-end design. Interactive LED lights are framed by a C-shaped light signature, and react to other road users. The large, sculpted bumpers and “Anodized Blue” diffusers also give the I.D. a unique appearance. The transparent illuminated Volkswagen logo in the front section emphasizes the I.D.’s quality.

From the side, the design is characterized by precision. The voluptuous, flowing surfaces of the side profile merge elegantly into a single, homogeneous surface below the character line. The new design DNA  corresponds with innovative technical solutions, such as a lack of B pillars. The front and rear doors form a protective unit when closed. The rear doors swivel backwards, showcasing the Open Space. Door mirrors have been replaced by cameras, which are integrated in the front fenders. The powerful silhouette is perfectly rounded off by white and blue 20-inch aluminum-alloy wheels with blue low-rolling resistance tires.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The trunklid, which extends across the full width of the car, is contrasted in black. At the sides, the large rear window is framed by vertical aerodynamic fences and at the base by the strikingly narrow horizontal LED taillights. The I.D.’s bumper is a prime example of the avant-garde design of Volkswagen’s future electric cars, which looks as if it were made out of a single piece of aluminum or a translucent block of ice. Right at the bottom of the car’s rear section is a neat and tidy blue diffuser, mirrored by the narrow strip of LED taillights that wrap around to the flanks and the illuminated Volkswagen logo between them.

The four-door I.D. is 161.4 inches long, 6 inches shorter than a Golf. This concept car is 70.9 inches wide and 60.2 inches high. The I.D. has a 108.3-inch wheelbase, which is 5 inches longer than the Golf, so the proportions are even more attractive.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The I.D. communicates with its environment using light. The LED headlights interactively mimic the human eye (interactive spotlight), with the headlights reacting to their environment: for instance, they look in the direction of the driver as he approaches the I.D.

  • Parked. If all of the I.D.’s systems are shut down it looks from the front as if its “eyes” are closed. On a parked I.D., all you can see is a narrow little strip of LEDs in the headlights.
  • Startup. When the I.D. is “woken up”, it greets its driver and the passengers with an all-new 360-degee light show: the transparent Volkswagen logos at the front and in the trunklid light up in white. This is then followed by blue lighting in the front bumper diffuser, the side sills and the rear diffuser. In the final stage of this light show, the I.D. opens its “eyes” and, last but not least, white light shines in the four door handles.

Over and above that, Volkswagen’s designers and engineers have come up with different light scenarios for each operating mode:

  • Charging. While the batteries are charging, the blue light panels on the diffusers and side sills pulsate or “breathe”, while the headlights remain in sleep mode
  • On the road. In conventional drive mode the Volkswagen logos, the LED Daytime Running Lights and the LED headlights are on. As the car accelerates, the “eyes” adjust to the higher speed by adopting a more dynamic light signature
  • Autonomous Driving. To signal that it is in fully automated mode (from 2025), the laser scanners on the roof—which are now extended—the front and rear diffusers and the side sills are also lit in blue. As the car speeds up, the LED “eyes” look ahead, giving the car a sporty appearance
  • Communicating with surroundings. Over and above this, the “eyes” are interactive in fully automated mode. If, for instance, the I.D. wants to turn left or right, the LED headlights look in the direction that the car is going to turn. What is more, if the I.D. notices people at the side of the road it looks at them. This very human form of interaction draws the attention of pedestrians and cyclists to the I.D.
  • Shut down. This starts with the DRLs being deactivated and the door handle illumination being activated; then the blue lighting of the diffusers and side sills and the white light in the door handles go out. Finally, only the Volkswagen logos are illuminated. They stay on until the driver and passengers walk away from the car. Now the I.D. is in standby mode.

Open Space

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

As soon as you approach the car, the white light in the surface of the door handles illuminates. If the person’s hand comes up close to the handle, the line of light pulsates and the handle extends from the body and the door can be opened.

Passengers on board the I.D. are in a mobile space that has been completely rethought and redesigned. Volkswagen calls it the Open Space—a pure, airy, space. The sculpted, flowing structures of the surfaces are inspired by nature, using bionic design instead of cold engineering. The design, with its organically shaped surfaces and gentle radii, emphasizes the impression of space. Another defining design trait is that the interior is enclosed by a Möbius strip, a geometric shape that owes its name to the German mathematician and astronomer August Ferdinand Möbius, who first described this twisted shape—where the inner surface becomes the outer surface and vice versa—in the middle of the 19th century. Most people will be familiar with the Möbius strip from the artwork by M. C. Escher. The simplicity of the interior, where switches and control stalks have been replaced by new digital solutions, results in a new, intuitive, operating environment.

There are four separate integral seats, with the headrests and seatbelts harmonically integrated into the backrest. The structural design of the seats appears very light. Flowing, restrained light grey satin fabric (“Jacquard Heather”) and a reduced seam underline the floating impression of the seats. The seats in the back can be folded up like cinema seats to save space, making room for large items such as folding bicycles or picture frames. The “dive down” function also allows the rear seats to be lowered to floor level, turning the trunk and rear seat area into a single large, flat cargo area.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Depending on the seating configuration, the I.D. has up to 33.9 cubic feet of luggage space. Between the left and right seats there is a utility box in the front and a folding center armrest in the back, both of which slide fore-and-aft and can be removed. A box for shopping can also be fitted in the front-seat passenger area. The Open Space is flooded with daylight through large windows and a panoramic sunroof. If the sunshine is too bright, the transparent roof can also be darkened electronically.

The MEB architecture and the digitalization of the display and control elements permit an entirely new interior layout for driver and passengers. The driver’s space blends in with the rest of the interior; the mobile space in the I.D. has been transformed into a multi-variable lounge, yet every driver will get to grips with it straight away as the I.D. is controlled with self-explanatory touch displays in the doors, capacitive keypads, and voice and gesture control.

The center of this car consists of an electrically adjustable and retractable multifunction steering wheel, a new Active Info Display, an electronic interior mirror (e-Mirror), an Augmented Reality (AR) Head-up Display and newly designed door panels. A central infotainment system in the middle of the dashboard is a thing of the past, as those menus are also available to everyone in the car, thanks to the four individual door panels.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The middle of the steering wheel has its usual Volkswagen logo, except that in this case it is an illuminated button with which the driver can switch from manual to fully automated (“I.D. Pilot”) mode. By pressing the Volkswagen logo for three seconds the electrically adjustable steering wheel retracts and interlocks with the dashpad. When the steering wheel reverts from fully automated to manual mode, an illuminated display appears in the rim of the steering wheel for a few seconds to indicate that it is changing mode. Aesthetics and functionality make the I.D.’s electrically adjustable and retractable multifunction steering wheel a highlight, both visually and haptically. The steering wheel has six rounded corners, creating a control island in the lower part of it to reduce the complexity of operation. From here the driver controls the car’s main functions, such as the “P”, “R”, “N” and “D” drive positions and the turn signals, using illuminated capacitive keypads. Four more capacitive keys adapt to functions like taking a phone call, while two capacitive sliders allow the driver to scroll intuitively through functions like the playlist and the sound system.

The I.D. has a new evolution of the head-up display. Information such as the directions given by the satellite navigation system are, for the first time, projected as virtual images that appear to be between 23 and 49 feet ahead of the car. The effect is amazingly realistic: arrows are projected via augmented reality to show where the driver and the I.D. are heading. Thanks to the AR-Head-Up Display, the navigation instructions are part of driver’s three-dimensional surroundings.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

A 10-inch Active Info Display shows information to the driver and can also be used to view content like the media library and menus such as the satellite navigation, or to control the multifunction steering wheel. The Active Info Display gives the driver great freedom. For instance, the full 10 inches of the screen can be turned into a 3D navigation screen. The display uses three transparent layers to display the various types of information. At the bottom, on the first layer there is the navigation map; the digital content retrieved using the Volkswagen ID is displayed on the second layer; and the third layer, at the top, is used to display driving data such as the car’s speed and range.

Conventional rear-view mirrors are a thing of the past in the I.D. But habit is difficult to change, so in place of the rear-view mirrors there is now a system that looks exactly the same and performs the same function. The e-Mirror combines data from three external cameras on a monitor. The images are transmitted from the door mirror cameras on the left and right-hand sides of the car as well as a rearward facing camera. Doing away with the mirrors improves the aerodynamics of the vehicle. The only button in the I.D., for the hazard warning lights, is to be found in the base of the mirror.

Information and controls that have previously only been available to the driver and the front-seat passenger are now available to the rear-seat passengers too, thanks to the new door panels. These white and partially transparent control islands are ergonomically mounted in the trim of the four doors, where they appear to be suspended in mid-air. It is evident from the shape of the panels that they also act as the interior door handles and house loudspeakers. The door panels can be used to control the air conditioning, the infotainment and navigation, the interior lighting, the electric windows and the central locking. The door panel can even be used to receive phone calls. These functions are all controlled on a white touchscreen with black icons as well as a capacitive slider on the side, which is used to regulate the temperature and the HVAC fan speed. The information displayed on the door panel changes as soon as the door is opened or the driver switches to the fully automated “I.D. Pilot” mode. The driver can also restrict the range of functions of the other door panels so that children can’t open the doors while moving, for instance.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

As soon as there is someone in the driver’s seat the steering wheel, which is retracted into the dashpad in parking mode, comes out and the multifunction displays light up simultaneously. At the same time, the I.D. triggers the Active Info Display and the AR Head-up Display. Ambient lighting and the Active Info Display greet the driver with a welcome routine. Close the doors, belt up, press the brake, select a driving mode and the I.D. is ready for off. The Start/Stop button is a thing of the past. “D” and “R“ are activated by gently pressing the corresponding button on the multifunction steering wheel, and the I.D. is switched off by pressing the “P” on the steering wheel, which causes the steering wheel to retract flush with the dashpad again.

Automated Driving

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

I.D. is the first Volkswagen that is capable of fully automated driving. Activating the fully automated “I.D. Pilot” mode is easy: the driver just has to press the Volkswagen logo on the steering wheel for three seconds to switch from manual to fully automated mode. The I.D. indicates that it has changed mode with a range of optical signals: the ambient light changes from clear blue light, designed to focus while driving, to a relaxed ambience, with a selection of colors. During the transformation from manual to fully automated mode the light in the Volkswagen logo on the steering wheel pulsates, too. The light distribution of the ambient lighting expands to illuminate the back, and the I.D. signals via the Active Info Display and the AR-Head-up display that it is ready to take control. As soon as the driver takes their hands and feet away from the controls the steering wheel retracts into the dashpad and the fully automated “I.D. Pilot” mode is active.

In fully automated driving mode the four roof-mounted laser scanners are active. They protrude from the roof of the I.D. in “I.D. Pilot” mode, but are also visible thanks to indirect blue lighting, like the diffusers and side sills, indicating that the I.D. is in fully automated mode. The I.D. is capable of detecting other road users not only using its laser sensors, but also with ultrasonic sensors, radar sensors, side area view cameras and a front camera. Traffic data is also constantly collected and compared with the vehicle data via the cloud.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

Fully automated mode is deactivated by pressing the brake or accelerator pedals. The I.D. indicates that the driver has to take control again by changing the color and distribution of the ambient lighting, pulsing the light in the Volkswagen steering wheel logo on the steering wheel, and posting alerts on the Active Info Display and the AR-Head-up Display. The steering wheel then comes out of the dashpad again, reactivating manual driving mode. Visual clues include the illumination of the accelerator and brake pedals and a light pattern in the steering wheel.

The color scheme and mood of the ambient lighting change along with the manual and fully automated mode. The door panels, the areas under the seats, the seat surfaces and the lower section of the instrument panel are indirectly lit. The ambient lighting also floods into the cabin through a kind of woven mesh that extends between the A-pillars parallel to the windscreen and around the instrument panel. Form and function blend into one here: if a pedestrian appears beside or in front of the I.D., for example, a warning for the driver is projected on the illuminated mesh.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The I.D. doesn’t only drive itself or be driven. It can find a space in a parking structure, all of its own. All the driver has to do is stop the I.D. in a specially marked zone in the entrance to a structure that has the necessary infrastructure and activate the “Pilot for multi-storey car park” using the Volkswagen app. As with the fully automated “I.D. Pilot” mode it is able to detect other cars as well as pedestrians. To ask the I.D. to leave the parking space again, all the driver has to do is tell the Volkswagen to return to its starting zone again via the app.

Technical Details

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The I.D. is the first compact Volkswagen based on the newly developed Modular Electric Drive Kit (MEB) that is designed as a purely electric vehicle architecture. This approach to the design results in a range of advantages, in particular the packaging. The I.D.’s zero-emissions drive system consists primarily of the electric motor, power electronics and transmission integrated in the rear axle, a space-saving high-voltage flat battery in the floor of the car and ancillary equipment integrated in the front of the car.

The electric motor has a power output of 168 horsepower (125 kW), giving the I.D. zero to 62 mph acceleration in less than 8 seconds and a top speed of 99 mph.  Subsequent production versions could also be offered with more or less powerful electric motors. In parallel, the concept also hints that it will be possible to configure the I.D. with different battery capacities. This would allow the drive system to be modified to suit the owner’s individual needs. The I.D. will have a range of between 249 and 373 miles on a single charge, under European test conditions.

Volkswagen I.D.

Volkswagen I.D.

The high-voltage battery used in the I.D. is located in the chassis. As a crucial link, the power electronics control the flow of high-voltage power between the motor and the battery, converting the direct current (DC) stored in the battery into alternating current (AC), while a DC/DC converter supplies the on-board electronics with 12-volt power. Power is transferred from the motor to the rear axle via a single-gear transmission. The motor, power electronics and transmission form one compact unit. The position of the battery has a positive effect as it gives the I.D. a very low center of gravity, like a racing car’s, and neutral handling. The I.D. is also characterized by an optimal weight distribution of 48:52 percent, front to rear.

The battery can be charged by cable or using an inductive charging interface in the front of the car. To charge by cable, a separate charging plug is needed to connect the car to an electrical outlet. For inductive charging, all the driver needs to do is park the I.D. over a so-called charging plate, with a little help from the electronics to make sure it is in exactly the right position. Over and above that it will be possible to send the car to an inductive charging station, too. Thanks to the rapid charging system the battery is 80 percent charged after just 30 minutes.

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37 responses to "Volkswagen I.D. At The Paris Motor Show – Photos & Videos"

  1. pjwood1 says:

    At least they have come around to promoting the inherrent benefits of an EV’s low gravity center.

    1. JMIJON says:

      It looks 1000 times better Than The Bolt…If it ever should come to fruition!

      1. R.S says:

        It really looks good! It reminds me of the Model 3, those clean non aggressive shapes, maybe also because of the pano roof. Details will probably change when it goes into production, but the overall shape is very promising.

  2. Dave says:

    Well that is a YUGE update 🙂

    Hopefully they are serious about it in 2020 because they will be late to the party by then.

  3. mx says:

    Fantastic.
    A better, larger i3, for less money?
    But, 2020 is a long way off.

    1. bogdan says:

      This car will be out of date by 2020. The others aren’t sleeping, they are actually fithing for their lifes.

  4. Bill Howland says:

    Ho Humm. So they just copied (more like ‘stole’) the design of the GM Bolt/ AMPe.

    And claim they are bringing it to market after GM has a 3 YEAR head start.

    For the time being, they are bringing out a supposed 125 mile poorly cooled/heated battery E-Golf, which hasn’t been a great seller since the value isn’t there.

    Many people are going to have reconsider their hatred of GM, plus their constant disparaging of the VOlt and Bolt.

    Those cars are looking better and better with the passage of time, and, since my nephew and his girlfriend got out of my totalled Volt with only some aches and pains thus proves GM’s commitment to safety.

    1. sven says:

      Sorry to hear about your Volt, but glad to hear that your nephew and his girlfriend weren’t seriously injured. The Volt’s safety record doesn’t get much press or recognition. Kudos to GM.

      1. Bill Howland says:

        Thanks!

        Hey SVEN, what is the deal with the $2000 NYS tax credit? It supposedly has been signed into law, and when I was in Ithaca 3 weeks ago they said it would be in effect in 3 weeks or so. But searching for it finds only the most vague details from the Sierra Club.

        You hear anything?

    2. mx says:

      I’ve never heard anyone interested in EV’s disparage the Volt. Petro-heads?

      1. sven says:

        No, not Petro-heads. It’s the BEV-purists that disparage the Volt. You must be new around here. 🙂

  5. sven says:

    I love the folding seat bottoms in the second row, and hope this feature makes it into the production model. I hope the seat backs retain the ability to fold flat. These VW seats are much more practical and provide much more utility than the mono pedestal seats that another automaker chose to put in their flagship BEV CUV, which are a form-over-function design.

    1. Djoni says:

      Good idea, but I am skeptical that you can put I bike across like the picture show, specially with the wheels on.

      1. wavelet says:

        Depends on the length of the bike (-:
        I think my kids’ bikes will fit in there, but not most adult bikes with 26″/700c wheels.

        Interior width (door-to-door, across the rear seats) of the current-gen Golf (Mk VII) is 144cm, the current Passat is 151cm. The C4 Picasso is 149cm… I think most adult commuter/MTB bikes will need 160+ cm.

    2. mx says:

      Looks like a better door design then the BMW i3, which is welcome.

      VW really knocked it out of the park.
      Now, build it.

    3. Someone out there says:

      That actually looks pretty clever. It’s too bad it’s not going to arrive before 2020 and then be fairly weak but maybe they will improve it further until then.

    4. wavelet says:

      Yes, those type of flip-the-base-up seats, a.k.a. cinema seats, have been available on some Honda models (the Jazz, a.k.a. Fit in the US, and the Civic Tourer — possibly others) for a while, and I don’t know why more car models have them. They make even more sense for skateboard-plan BEVs, since the floor is naturally flat.
      The only thing they don’t allow is sliding the rear seats front/back (it could be added).

      Re the pic you posted, I don’t quite see how the front door could open 90deg — that looks like it could only work if the hinge is on the outside or the door isn’t flush with the side panel — aerodynamics issue.

    5. They are borrowing one of the best features of the Honda Fit. Which is not new – the Chevy Bolt EV borrows heavily from the Fit (though not the Magic Seat).

    6. bogdan says:

      yeah, it works perfect on computer simulation…

  6. Hank S. says:

    1) I was repulsed when I first saw it because it reminded me of an old iMac, but it is now growing on me in a VW bug type of way

    2) It looks like it’s going to fall in love with Wall-E

    3) I just realized that it does not have a grill, but it didn’t jump out at me like the empty Model 3 grill space

    1. Anon says:

      I don’t think of the M3’s front as “empty” so much as an “Air Chisel”, to carve thru the wind.

  7. Four Electrics says:

    Is amazing to me that VW spends more than any other company on R&D; $16 billion last year alone. I expect a bounty of EV innovation from this company.

    1. Yogurt says:

      That is alot and almost double Toyota at 9 billion but I would assume that covers most if not all of the VW groups passenger brands…

      Passenger cars under Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen marques;

      motorcycles under the Ducati brand;

      commercial vehicles under the marques MAN, Scania, Neoplan and Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles

    2. bogdan says:

      They don’t invest the 16 billions in EV tech so dont’ expect too much.
      They need to invest o a lot in ICE, because meanwhile it’s impossible to meet the pollution standards set by governments all over the world.

  8. Huhu says:

    For any car especially an EV, performace should be the number ONE Priority. This so called revolutionary car’s Performance is extremely disappointing, even worse than the Bolt by 2 seconds, really?? This thing coming out in 2020 seriously doesn’t deserve any praise!

    1. Rob says:

      No. Range should be number one priority.
      The majority of car drivers aren’t interested in performance, just economy and value for money and reliability.
      As long as there is an option for a model that peels your eyelids back when you floor it, all will be well in the world…

    2. Yogurt says:

      I have to disagree about performance being the num 1 priority…
      The num 1 priority should be to sell it ample volume with a profit which means it hit a target market that people will pay for it and the manufacture will continue making EVs…
      I love performance but the general public doesnt know anything about 0 to 60 times and wants an appliance for an auto…

      If you cant wait and need range there is a Bolt, Leaf, Model 3 and maybe a Ford model E before then which is not exactly a big selection…
      I dont know of any other affordabe 200 plus mile range cars that have been anounced to be out by then…

  9. Rob says:

    Too many gimmicks and what’s with the rubber band tyres?
    Give the tyres some higher profile to absorb the bumps!

    1. bogdan says:

      Bumps?, What bumps? There are no bumps on computer simulation!

  10. Alaa says:

    I am finding hard to believe not only VW but all the others in the Paris Motor Show that exhibit their electric cars. All of them are saying that they will deliver these cars by 2019 or 2020. Even the ZOE which is supposed to be available today as I write this. The 41 kWh model they tell us about is not possible to order in France. I just checked. What is it like for me here in Egypt if the French can’t have it? As for the 2019 or 2020 boys, it is like a lazy student who tells his parents that he will be the first in his class in 3 years time! I ask you if Tesla will sell half a million cars by 2018 what will that number be in 2020? And what will be the status of the Gigafactory? How many will the have by then? There is no way out of it, if you want to build a lot of electric cars you must have a lot of batteries. The only one that can produce a lot of batteries apart from Tesla is BYD. These dreamers like VW MB etc will have to buy these batteries from LG or Samsung etc. Will that be a profitable thing to do? Many argue that no car manufacture makes tiers. True, but the world is full of them and it is not the same with Li ion batteries yet. The day we reach that point Tesla will be way ahead of the others in market share. It will be way too late for VW etc to catch up. And who knows what will Tesla produce by then. VW is offering a car that has less range than what Tesla had for months!

    1. Another Euro point of view says:

      Alaa, the thing is both car makers are not (Renault) or little (VW) exposed to US markets. So question to ask yourself is when you expect Tesla to export M3 in quantities and reasonably priced outside of the US. I find the following timeline rather likely: end of 2017, presentation + an handful cars sold to “close friends”. 2018: M3 production ramp up, only US and average sticker price between $40 and $45K. End of 2018 or beginning 2019: export starting but still no base $35K models exported outside US. This might be why no car maker in Europe is in a hurry . I find it more likely that the $35K M3 sticker price was calculated with components prices of 2018-2019 (batteries, controllers, e-motors) rather tahn with 2016 prices , otherwise Model S 60 would be currently sold at no more than $50K (+/- same battery size than the M3, same expensive aluminum body parts apparently, only a bit smaller).

      1. Alaa says:

        2020 is when the Gigafactory should be 100% ready and fully operational. That is what media says. I personally think that it will be sooner, but the main point is that the price of the kWh will drop to $100 or less. Now once that happens say 2020 at the most, then what chance does VW and others have against Tesla? Another main point is, what do you think will happen to demand once they sell 500,000 cars in 2018? And by then none of the other will have a car ready for sale! Let us go one more year 2019, I would say more than a million and VW plus the others all put together also still nothing! So the bottom line is that all these VW MB etc are day dreaming.

        1. Mister G says:

          Yes you are correct, I think this is all public relations campaign to ease anger against VW diesel scam. But if Strong man trump get in VW will not need a public relations campaign because Trump will squash all BEV incentives.

          1. Alaa says:

            I thought of that too, but I came to the conclusion that he will not be able to hide the idea and people will do their own cars. He might put taxes on these private conversions, but he will not be able to enforce this on the EU and other countries. Also solar is impossible to stop. It is so simple to install solar panels and batteries. Will he be able to tax people because they are making their own electricity? If yes then will he tax people who grow their own tomatoes in the back yard too? I don’t think so. I think that it is impossible to but this gene back in the bottle. Besides as I read today’s news he has no chance to win now since he avoided paying tax for many years. I think that it is illogical that any one can even apply to this job without showing his tax returns. This is a loop hole they have in the US which I think should be addressed.

      2. bogdan says:

        The car makers in Europe aren’t in a hurry. They are doing Bugs Bunny’s rabbit – turtle race:

        – Tesla is so alow at ramping up production.
        – And we are so fast at ramping up production.
        – What, they already sold 500k last year?

  11. Hauer says:

    I stopped reading at “2020”.

    1. bogdan says:

      maybe u can read further in 2020..

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