Toyota’s Future Hybrids to be Lighter, Sportier, More Engaging to Drive

4 years ago by Eric Loveday 11

A Fun-to-Drive Prius?

A Fun-to-Drive Prius?

Stick with us here, as this one requires a bit of explaining.

Lighter and Sportier With More Electric Range?

Lighter and Sportier With More Electric Range?

At the 2013 World Hybrid Tour last week in Michigan, Toyota made a few Prius-related statements.

One of those statements was covered by us last week.  It went down like this:

“We have been listening very carefully to Prius PHV owners and are considering their requests for additional all-electric range. We have also heard from owners that they would like a more convenient charging operation.  In response, we are developing a new wireless/inductive charging system that produces resonance between an on-floor coil and an onboard coil to transmit power to the battery, providing charging without the fuss of a cable.”

Those were the words of Toyota’s hybrid guru, Satoshi Ogiso.

Toyota execs added more to the mix though by saying that the next-gen Prius will be lighter, sportier, offer better overall driving experience, be more engaging and sip 10% less fuel than today’s model.

While none of those statements were applied directly to the Prius Plug-In, this was:

“Ogiso also said the next-generation Prius Plug-in (PHV) is being developed in parallel with the standard Prius model.”

By extension, that statement tells us that the next-gen plug-in Prius will also be lighter, sportier, offer better overall driving experience, be more engaging and sip 10% less fuel than today’s model.

And it’ll come with wireless charging.

And more electric-only range.

What else could you ask for?

A reduced price tag?  Let’s hope that’s the case.

 

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11 responses to "Toyota’s Future Hybrids to be Lighter, Sportier, More Engaging to Drive"

  1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

    Toyota actually wanting to sell the PiP?

  2. Ocean Railroader says:

    Chevy volt is going to slaughter some Prius meat while Tesla is going to be like Godzilla stepping on them.

    Reasons for this are the Chevy volt has a 40 mile battery range and they are starting to wise up and cut the prices to it down to the same playing field as the Prius. While at the same Tesla is getting their generation 3 car ready.

    1. Bloggin says:

      Exactly, the Volt is to come with at least a 50mile battery back and a more efficient gasoline engine, which would make it the best compact plug-in period.

    2. Robert says:

      I agree.

  3. Bloggin says:

    Toyota stated the next Prius hybrid ‘should’ achieve 10% gain in fuel economy. Bring it from 50 to 55mpg combined that’s already been reported. But at the cost of an even smaller gasoline engine.

    The current engine offers only 98hp for the liftback and wagon, the c has a tiny 74hp engine.
    So it’s expected the liftback and wagon will drop in hp closer to the c to improve highway mpg, and add a more powerful electric motor to help move the car from stop and at slower speeds.

    Toyota is working on inductive charging, just like every other auto manufacturer. It’s already available for the Leaf, and Volt through a third party.

    And if the Prius gets any lighter, it will be downright frightening to drive. It’s already a scary experience on the freeway at over 70 mph. And don’t get passed by a big truck while climbing a canyon road. Yikes!!!

    As far as more battery power for the plug-in, Toyota may go as far as actually offering 11 EV miles, since the current plug-in really just has 7 miles of EV power before the engine kicks in.

    But we won’t see anything new from Toyota until MY2016. About the same time we see the sleeker and lighter next gen C-Max Hybrid and Energi based on the S-Max Concept shown here: http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/28/ford-s-max-concept-preview/

    1. David Murray says:

      I’m really tired of seeing this myth perpetuated about the Prius Plug-in only getting 6 miles, or 7 miles in this case. And of all places on an EV related web-site.

      Now look, I’m no PiP fan.. I have a Volt and Leaf in my garage, but lets get our facts right. The EPA rating for the PiP is 11 miles. And if you do not exceed the speed or acceleration limitations during that 11 miles you will definitely get 11 miles of all EV driving. The EPA test, however, exceeds those limitations at 6 miles and forces the engine on.

      And thus, I hope the next generation Prius Plug-in will give the driver an ICE lockout option like the Energi twins have. That would immediately clear up the EPA range rating issue that the PiP has.

    2. David Stone says:

      Light cars are not frightening to drive;
      cars without the appropriate downforce are frightening to drive.

  4. Ocean Railroader says:

    It sounds like the Prius might obsolete do to all the better plug in hybrids and new electric cars entering the roads. I kind of wounder why Toyota should get with the herd and jump in to the more powerful electric car section.

  5. Dave K. says:

    I think the next gen Prius will be a great car, Toyota knows exactly what they are doing! Remember they basically own the hybrid market so they have been getting it right for more than a decade. We are the early adopters so PIPs small EV range seems inadequate to us but most people are not ready to go all EV, Toyota (and Ford and GM) is easing them into it with PHEVs that are not too different from the cars they are driving now, and in some ways that works well, their batteries get fully utilized every day, they can still take a road trip and the price is not too hard to swallow. I look at it as a transitional step.
    Also the current Prius is still quite heavy, check out small cars from the 70s and 80s, many were under 2000lbs, I believe Lotus made an 1100lb 2 seater.

  6. Priusmaniac says:

    What about a 90 % fuel consumption reduction by passing to a superior BMW i3 like system with an EV base and a kind of Wal-Mart 10 KW generator for 899$ as a range extender. That would already be better than their future Plug-in Prius with 22 EV miles.

    Toyota get real in progress because I start to be annoyed at wearing a pseudo that perhaps was good ten years ago but get heavy to wear these days.

  7. jeff says:

    Toyota is constipated with the Prius product line.

    How about being the first full sized PHEV pickup with 40 miles EV range?
    How about being the first PHEV mini van with 40 miles EV range?
    How about taking that Highlander and doubling it’s EV range?

    mkaes me want to buy an old Prius and convert it into the others.