Tesla Model S P90D Is First Sub-3-Second Sedan Ever Tested By Car And Driver

1 year ago by Mark Kane 66

Top Performers Will Earn Themselves A Model S P90DL

Top Performers Will Earn Themselves A Model S P90DL

Tesla Model S (wallpaper 2,560 x 1,440)

Tesla Model S

Car and Driver was impressed by the performance of the Tesla Model S P90D (with Ludicrous Mode).

“The first sub-3.0-second sedan we’ve ever tested. So that’s something.”

The full production, large-size four door sedan that is able to do 0-60 mph in 2.8 seconds managed to break into the top few quickest cars ever tested by Car and Driver.

The quarter-mile run took 11.1 seconds at 121 mph (0.7 seconds better than P85D Insane).

The best result for acceleration can be achieved in Model S with the highest power (P90D Ludicrous) and the smallest number of options that increase weight (sunroof, rear-facing seats, second battery charger…)

Moreover, the battery needed to be 95-100% full with “max battery perform­ance mode” enabled. Car and Driver did test with two acceleration runs in opposite directions to eliminate wind and grade effects, split be a few minutes rest to cool the batteries.

Source: Car and Driver

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66 responses to "Tesla Model S P90D Is First Sub-3-Second Sedan Ever Tested By Car And Driver"

  1. Norm Cutter says:

    2.8 seconds! If that’s not a misprint, I am buying one.

    1. evcarnut says:

      Tesla Doesn’t Lie……

      1. kdawg says:

        Except on release dates

    2. Leaf Owner says:

      And that was Car & Drivers test … not Tesla’s testing which proves it is real.

  2. evcarnut says:

    Nice Work Boys & Girls !

  3. carcus says:

    2.8…. In a big ol’ car like that??? …. Gawdang!

  4. Speculawyer says:

    It is going to be interesting to see how fast the new Roadster will be.

    Maximum plaid!

  5. ffbj says:

    The first sub 3.0 second 0-60 time is “something?” Its like your mom tells you to make your bed and clean your room and you make your bed, and she says well that’s “something,” as it is the bare minimum.

    Later in the original article car and driver describe that “something” like this:
    “Nailing the right pedal vents a massive torque gush, and weird, wonderful, and addictive bursts of dopamine flood your brain’s pleasure center when this tsunami sloshes the juice in your inner ear.”

    Now that is SOMETHING!

  6. ModernMarvelFan says:

    That is impressive.

    Now, NOT to take away anything from the Tesla, I found two interesting observation:

    1.Moreover, the battery needed to be 95-100% full with “max battery perform­ance mode” enabled.
    2.split be a few minutes rest to cool the batteries

    So, you won’t be able to achieve this if the battery is only 50% full? That means the power is severely limited by battery with no capacity left. Also, the car can’t handle this repeatly…

    I thought Tesla upgraded Model S to reduce overheating issue…

    1. Anon says:

      Why does everyone ignore basic physics?

      Optimal battery temps and power levels will give you optimum motor performance. Non-optimal temps and power levels will give you non-optimal results.

      Pretty simple…

      1. ModernMarvelFan says:

        Do you need “optimum” gas tank level to achieve best performance?

        1. Ambulator says:

          Yes. Adding 50 or more pounds will definitely affect performance.

          1. ModernMarvelFan says:

            Would it make as much difference as Tesla’s battery only 30% full?

            1. Ambulator says:

              I would guess so, but since we aren’t given any figures you can guess the other way if you want.

              1. Brian Kent says:

                Sorry I just LMFAO. Glad I wasn’t drinking milk.

                “You’re welvome to guess in the other direction if you want.”

                ::singe::

            2. ffbj says:

              Of course it will perform less optimally under less than optimal conditions. Motorweek could not get the “D” in under 4.0 0-60. They pointed out the battery was at 60%, and their track is crummy.

              So if you want your Tesla to perform charge it up and warm it up. Its the nature of the beast, though ice is a worst beast and does not perform up to the new standards set by Tesla.

              Still to be fair the term ‘Troll’ gets tossed around too much here.

            3. Nix says:

              MMF — You are wrongly conflating two completely different issues.

              Yes, Tesla had a problem where it could go into a limited power mode. Yes, they fixed that.

              This is a completely different issue. This is the difference between squeaking out a 2.8 second run vs. maybe a 2.9 second run. Nobody at Car and Driver is saying that they went into limited power mode because their test car overheated.

              They are simply saying that if you want to hit 2.8’s instead of 2.9’s, you have to have the battery charged up and rest between runs. This is about optimizing performance, and has absolutely nothing to do with overheating and going into limited power mode.

              This is no different that ICE cars on the drag strip making sure the gas tank only has just enough fuel, that the engine isn’t heat soaked, that the transmission isn’t heat soaked, that the tires are at the right temp and pressure, etc. This is all standard drag race stuff, where to get the absolute fastest speed out of your vehicle (ICE or EV), you have to understand the laws of physics, and obey them.

              How much of a troll do you have to be to confuse these two completely different issues?

              1. ModernMarvelFan says:

                “How much of a troll do you have to be to confuse these two completely different issues?”

                Most of your answers were great until that last sentence. As I said before, I can play nasty down to your level as you want.

                I guess only a troll would confuse the difference between CEO and director…

              2. Phr3d says:

                Nix, RE “how much of a..”
                WTF?

        2. goodbyegascar says:

          MMV:

          ICE engines need to warm up for a bit before they can be expected to give optimal performance.

          You must have known that.

          1. hari says:

            True and clutch need to be broken in and not excessively worn out and tires need to have comparatively better grip than an EV to account for the not so linear torque characteristics.

            On the other hand, Tesla could’ve been conservative about the numbers only to be proven better in optimal conditions by third party.

          2. ModernMarvelFan says:

            “ICE engines need to warm up for a bit before they can be expected to give optimal performance.

            You must have known that.”

            Maybe you should also know that Tesla’s battery pack needs to warm up for a bit in the extreme cold before it can give optimal performance as well as having any regen capabilities.

            you must have known that as well.

            Not only the Model S battery has to be warmed up to proper temperature, it can’t be too hot either… LOL. Did you forget that simple fact?

            1. goodbyegascar says:

              MMV:

              Admit it, you resent Tesla’s success in making a much better car.

              Just admit that.

              1. ModernMarvelFan says:

                LOL.

                If you read enough of my posts, you would have known that I am highly interested in purchasing a Model 3. I have no problem with Tesla at all.

                I only have problem with those idiotic Tesla fan boys…

        3. Priusmaniac says:

          You better don’t be at the highest elevation city in the US, Leadville, Colorado 10,152 feet (3,094 m), or your performance will seriously be affected. The Model S at contrary won’t bother at contrary.

          1. Nix says:

            Interestingly, electic vehicles are actually slightly faster at high altitude than at low altitude.

            Not only do they not lose any power due to thin air, the thin air has less drag. Less drag means 1/4 mile runs are slightly faster the higher you go in altitude.

            This is the same reason you can smack the heck out of a golf ball at a golf course at Vail, and it really flies.

    2. goodbyegascar says:

      MMV:

      Go back and read your own comment.

      1. ModernMarvelFan says:

        I read it and it made more sense than your post…

        1. goodbyegascar says:

          MMV:

          You have only come to this website to be a gascar apologist.

          No more hiding it now.

          1. ModernMarvelFan says:

            goodbyegascar,

            Apparently, you must be either stupid or new here. If you have been reading this long enough, you would know that I drive an EV and have been here long enough, way longer than you have…

            But the fact that you don’t allow any criticism of Tesla by calling anyone who questions Tesla a “troll” only shows that you are nothing a TEsla fan club idiot who got nothing else to do but going around calling any Tesla critic trolls.

            It is truly amusing that I have been called a Tesla hater and Tesla lover by both sides on inside ev.

            Maybe you should stick around more often so we can have some exchanges in the future.

            LOL.

            1. goodbyegascar says:

              Ha!

              I always know when I scored a direct hit on a troll!

              1. ModernMarvelFan says:

                LOL.

                And I can smell the stink of a Tesla fan boy moron from miles away…

                1. goodbyegascar says:

                  By now it is obvious that you have come to the wrong web site.

        2. James says:

          Trolls…why do we feed them?

          1. goodbyegascar says:

            James:

            Well, tonight a troll just got busted.

            1. ModernMarvelFan says:

              Exposed?

              The only thing it exposed is the fact that you don’t have a clue on anything.

              If you had been able to read in the other article about Z06/P90D race, you wouldn’t have made the stupid comment about who won… LOL.

              Maybe you should learn some facts before posting so you don’t look so biased like a Tesla cult follower….

              1. goodbyegascar says:

                I said the Corvette “got its ass kicked,” because it did.

                Yeah, I’m a big time Tesla fan. No reason to hide that. I also love GMs Voltec drivetrain, and I think the Bolt is going to be a breakout hit.

                I can’t think of a single plug-in car that I wouldn’t want to own (even Mitsubishi’s iMiev!) compared to its comparably-priced ICE competition. I have a strong bias toward electric cars. That’s why I visit this website.

                As a reminder, this website is called “Inside EVs” for a reason. It has its own, very strong bias toward electric vehicles, you know. And Tesla is, without dispute, the best of them all. Just look at the frequency with which the writers submit articles about Tesla.

                No other brand gets as much attention, or generates as much enthusiasm as Tesla.

                Never mind that a 3,600 lb Corvette Z06 2-seater strains to keep up with a 4,900 lb electric sedan that 5/7 people.

                On the other hand, a belated congratulations to Chevrolet for celebrating the Corvette’s 60th anniversary. Their engines have come a long way since the Blue Flame Six of 1953.

                1. Alpha777 says:

                  There’s talk of a Corvette hybrid.
                  That’ would be interesting.

                2. ModernMarvelFan says:

                  goodbyegascar said:

                  “I said the Corvette “got its ass kicked,” because it did.”

                  If got it ass kicked is “losing”, then you certainly got an interesting way of figuring out the “ass kicked” part….

                  “Yeah, I’m a big time Tesla fan. No reason to hide that. I also love GMs Voltec drivetrain, and I think the Bolt is going to be a breakout hit.”

                  You are a big Tesla fan boy idiot. Big difference! I love all those cars too and I drive one of them. But I don’t twist facts to make cases for something that aren’t.

                  “I can’t think of a single plug-in car that I wouldn’t want to own (even Mitsubishi’s iMiev!) compared to its comparably-priced ICE competition. I have a strong bias toward electric cars. That’s why I visit this website.”

                  Apparently, idiots like you are the reason 2015 PEVs sale went down? LOL.

                  “As a reminder, this website is called “Inside EVs” for a reason. ”

                  Yes, that is why I visit it too. But it isn’t called “inside Tesla”…

                  “Just look at the frequency with which the writers submit articles about Tesla.”

                  There are some legit articles and others are just blogs of reporting of other news such as this one and other “race video”..

                  “Never mind that a 3,600 lb Corvette Z06 2-seater strains to keep up with a 4,900 lb electric sedan that 5/7 people.”

                  Gear ratio is all that is… So why can’t the such powerful Tesla beat Corvette or get even close in top speed with such low Cd? Gear ratio. When you optimize for 0-60mph with a single speed gear box, you are trading off 1 end of the performance spectrum against the other spectrum…

                  At the end, if you want to compare performance, then how many it seats doesn’t matter. It is about performance. If you want compare overall “value”, then P90D wins, no arguement there.

                  The problem is that Tesla fan boys often try to just pick out 1 factors to compare, when it doesn’t work, then they pull out other stuff such as fuel efficient, carrying capacity..etc to justify the superior value….

          2. goodbyegascar says:

            MMV:

            Cite a single example.

    3. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      ModernMarvelFan said:

      “I thought Tesla upgraded Model S to reduce overheating issue…”

      No, Tesla still has not magically turned the Model S from a street legal luxury sedan into a track racecar.

      And isn’t likely to.

      1. ModernMarvelFan says:

        Well, that might be the case. But I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that Tesla upgraded the packs and cooling system to improve the overheating issue. Maybe I read it from “inside Tesla fan club daily news”. LOL

        Well, it is fine. It is still awesome car. But no need to keep comparing it against other Performance Track car if it isn’t designed to compete at the same level…

        I only have problems with “selective” comparison by twisting facts…

        1. Stephen Hodges says:

          Problem is that when you identify a limitation, such as heat, or contactors, or something else, and you beef them up, the car goes even faster, and you still have a problem. If they beefed up the systems and put a cap on the current, you could run again and again, just not so fast, and the speed freaks wouldn’t be so happy. Can’t have it both ways.

        2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          ModernMarvelFan said:

          “I only have problems with ‘selective’ comparison by twisting facts…”

          But you seem to have no problem with cherry-picking only the “facts” which fit your argument, as already shown muiltiple times in this comment section.

          You also have a rather glaring problem with admitting when you’ve been shown to be wrong, and an associated problem with learning from what others say, as also demonstrated over and over just in this comment thread.

          Tell us again how Voltec is less complex than a multi-gear transmission… LOL! 😀

          1. ModernMarvelFan says:

            “Tell us again how Voltec is less complex than a multi-gear transmission… LOL!”

            YOu want to go there again? LOL.

            YOu never finished your last class assignment… Did you run out of fingers counting the number planetary gearsets, clutches, valves in a 6/8/10 speed transmission and compare that with Voltec?

            LOL. I am still waiting for your count.

            Oh, that is right. You can’t count. You will just re post your picture again and your video again but you can’t understand anything from a multiple speed transmission diagram… LOL.

  7. George Parrott says:

    Try immediate backup runs in s Hellcat and see what happens?

    1. goodbyegascar says:

      Chrysler goes bankrupt again, no more Hellcats.

  8. M. St. J. says:

    I just want a model three that’s fun to drive in reasonably priced.

    1. Alpha777 says:

      Agreed.
      When I win the lottery, I’ll be perfectly happy with a 90D, and a sunroof, air suspension, and upgraded stereo.

      1. Alpha777 says:

        If you 2%-to 10%’ers, could buy a LOT MORE 90D’s that would be great. Would like to pick up a used one in 3 years.

        Thanks in Advance!

        1. Alpha777 says:

          By the way, You Guys are the Real HERO’s.

          -Slow Saudi funding of Terrorists.
          -US Energy Independence
          -Use of USA Electric Power
          -Increases USA JOBS!

          Thank you for YOUR Service.

    2. kdawg says:

      Me too. I already blow people off the line in my Gen1 Volt. The 0-30 is so fast in EVs that you don’t need ludicrous modes. Yes it does create buzz and drives sales, but when it comes to the Model 3, I’d rather they hit the price target of $35K, than create more buzz about 0-60 times. If they can pull BOTH off, then fine.

  9. MDEV says:

    What about the ridiculous launch mode in Porsche and other cars that literally destroy the engine and transmission.

    1. goodbyegascar says:

      MDEV:

      The sooner, the better. Every stoplight challenge will send that many more gascars to the junkyard, where they belong.

  10. goodbyegascar says:

    The Tesla P90D (L) is only the latest version of their first in-house design!

    Tesla’s Roadster 2.0 will settle every last foolish argument against the superiority of electric drivetrains.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      I seriously doubt that it will settle every argument, because it most likely still won’t be designed to be driven at its very highest speed in a sustained run.

      The next-generation Roadster 3.0* will still be a street-legal sports car, not a track racecar.

      *Drivetrain upgrades in the original Roadster are described as 1.5, 2.0, and even 2.5.

      1. …And Roadster 3.0 was a term posted on this websitecfor the 70 kWh battery upgrade for past roadsters, but they are hand built to order as needed.

        I think the next gen Roadster, with ‘Maximum Plaid’ will be shooting for the 2.0 second 0 to 60 numbers, and likeky for capacity to do steady state 150 mph! Likely a normal EPA Rated driving range of about 320 miles, too!

  11. Rick Bronson says:

    And its a 7 seater car with a Frunk. No car can match Tesla in these features.

  12. Mark C says:

    I really hope they don’t make any of them faster. Bragging rights are only worth so much. Car & Driver tested the performance off the public highways. There are plenty of people who foolishly give there car all its got and many can’t handle that much power. I like a powerful car, but there’s no way I would buy a car that has 0-60 mph in sub-5 seconds. I’m one of those who would do something stupid with it….

    I would love a Model 3 / E / whatever it’s called, but if there’s a high performance model, I’ll stick with the standard model instead. Less temptation.

    1. John in AA says:

      “there’s no way I would buy a car that has 0-60 mph in sub-5 seconds”

      That would limit you to only an entry-level S70 or S70D. Which is still a fabulous car of course. (I believe the S85 is also not sub-5, but ISTR the 85 is D-only now, which would disqualify it from your criteria.)

      I do agree that there is, um, limited real-world application for being able to go that fast. I guess that’s why it’s called “ludicrous”.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        John in AA

        “I do agree that there is, um, limited real-world application for being able to go that fast.”

        Indeed. The greatest benefit is Tesla getting a lot of free press every time the Model S’s top-end acceleration is increased, altho I’m sure drag racers appreciate the upgrades. Tesla has long since passed the point at which it will be any real benefit in everyday driving.

        1. John in AA says:

          That, plus I bet their profit margins on the performance upgrades are pretty fat.

        2. floydboy says:

          I’m not so sure Pushmi-Pullyu. If the getaway car in the movie ‘HEAT’ had been a P90DM(maximum plaid), The robbers may have fared better!LOL!

  13. Stanley Stashki says:

    Yeah, you try that launch a few times and see if you have enough charge to make it back to your driveway…