Tesla Model S Deliveries Now Underway In Taiwan

5 months ago by Eric Loveday 25

Mr. JD Clayton, Property President of Studio City, and Miss Isabel Fan, Regional Director of Tesla Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, hosted the ribbon cutting ceremony.

Mr. JD Clayton, Property President of Studio City, and Miss Isabel Fan, Regional Director of Tesla Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, hosted a ribbon cutting ceremony in Macau.

It’s hard to believe that some 4.5 years has passed since the Tesla Model S first launched in the U.S., yet there are still nations around the globe waiting for order books to open and deliveries to begin for the electric Tesla sedan.

One such nation is Taiwan, where despite having Model S EVs there for test drives starting 3 or so years ago, first deliveries didn’t commence until just last week.

Tesla Model S

Tesla Model S

As Focus Taiwan reports:

“Tesla Taiwan announced that it has begun delivering Model S cars to Taiwanese customers…”

“The company boasted the Model S, which costs a minimum of NT$3.18 million (US$101,000), can travel 632 km on a single charge.”

In addition to deliveries getting underway, Tesla announced the opening of the first Supercharger in Tawain. It’s located in. Taipei Expo Park. Additional Supercharger are expected to come online soon in┬áTaichung, Tainan and Kaohsiung.

No word on when first Model X deliveries will begin in Taiwan.

Source: Focus Taiwan

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25 responses to "Tesla Model S Deliveries Now Underway In Taiwan"

  1. Huhu says:

    Taiwan is not a nation. Even Trump has not recognized it as a nation.
    Definitely great to see Tesla start selling in Taiwan though.

    1. PJ says:

      For all intents and purposes it is a nation

    2. John Hansen says:

      Taiwan is a nation. China would like it to not be a nation, and they’ve clung to that belief for the past 68 years. In 68 years, Taiwan has diverged quite a lot from China. Younger Taiwanese people, in particular, identify themselves as Taiwanese and not Chinese. The only reason that it isn’t recognized as a nation is because the Chinese government has kept them under threat of annihilation for the past few decades. There’s really no reason for the Chinese government to do this either, it’s done entirely out of nationalistic pride. Taiwan is no threat to China.

      But yes, I agree that it’s great to see Tesla selling to Taiwan.

      1. Huhu says:

        There is never a nation called Taiwan, and there is only Chinese living in Taiwan, no Taiwanese per se. It would be much more correct to call Taiwan as a self-governed island, pending either unification with Mainland China or independence.

        Leaving at that, not looking to start a political fight here.

        1. John Hansen says:

          Well, I’m not looking to start a political fight, but the 23 million citizens of Taiwan (who call themselves Taiwanese, btw) don’t agree with you. Taiwan is a nation that is entirely politically separate from China. What is your basis for saying that they aren’t a nation?

          I agree about not starting a fight, I think this can continue to be a civil discussion.

          1. Tom says:

            Because neither the UN or the United States recognizes it as one? The official stance of the United States is that Taiwan is not a nation.

            1. John Hansen says:

              The key word there is “official”. Yet we sell them weapons. How do you explain that? As you already know, the United States and the UN only don’t officially recognized Taiwan to kowtow to China, but treat Taiwan as a full nation in all other respects.

            2. wavelet says:

              Both the US and the UN recognized Taiwan as a country (in fact, as the sole legit government) until 1971, just before Nixon’s visit to China to make nice with the PRC.
              The US did subsequently try and leave Taiwan as an ordinary (non-Security Council_ UN member, but this was defeated by vote; Taiwan applied again for membership in 2007 but was refused, for no good reason.

              For all intents and purposes, Taiwan’s been an independent country for 70+ years, ~3 generations… Culture and even language have diverged from the mainland (writing practices & language constructs are more archaic). No reason not to recognize this formally.

      2. Mike I. says:

        Taiwan citizens are issued a unique passport that says “Taiwan, Republic of China”. So, to me, they are a separate country.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Looks like Taiwanese passports no longer say “Republic of China” on them:

        2. Daiwanlang says:

          The issuer of the Republic of China passport is the Taiwanese government, which is elected by 23 million Taiwanese, which makes Taiwan an independent sovereign.

          China, aka People’s Republic of China, does not issue that passport, thus Taiwan is not part of China.

          Just because the official name has not changed doesn’t mean it is part of China nor diminishes its independence.

    3. Daiwanlang says:

      Give it up. The fact that you need to troll the internet repeating the Chinese “alternative fact” about Taiwan is enough to show the world that Taiwan is indeed a nation.

  2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    Huhu posted Communist Chinese propaganda:

    “Taiwan is not a nation.”

    It is the official position of the Communist Party of China that Taiwan is just a “breakaway province”, but that’s merely communist propaganda, not the truth.

    Here’s the truth: The USA and what was then called the Republic of China, now Taiwan, signed the Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty in 1955, by which the USA guaranteed the Republic’s independence. This has since been superseded by the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979.

    Here are a couple of Wikipedia pages that can’t be accessed behind the Bamboo Curtain in China, where “Huhu” likely lives:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-American_Mutual_Defense_Treaty

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act

    1. GrokGrok says:

      To the contrary, no government official in Taiwan has ever stated that they are an independent nation, separate from China. The day they do, the Mainland will start active preparations for the “liberation” of the wayward province and proceed on that course expeditiously, consequences be damned. Instead, the background to the Taiwan Relations Act is that both the government in Taiwan and the government in Beijing officially recognize that the island is a part of China (as does the U.S.), they just disagree over who the legitimate central government is (a viewpoint more sincerely held in Taipei in 1979 under the KMT than today). Of course, functionally, Taiwan governs itself “independently,” which is why the whole stuff with the phone call and transit was stupid (why attract Beijing’s anger, when you have the reality?). Having said all that, its situation does produce some linguistic awkwardness, just as it’s very easy to also casually list Hong Kong as a “country” your merchandise is sold in along with many other places. No political point is generally being made by this usage, it’s just the casually easy thing to say.

      1. John Hansen says:

        To be clear, Hong Kong is fully a part of China. They were originally going to be granted semi-autonomous status, but China changed their mind about that. Taiwan, on the other hand, has a fully independent government.

        1. GrokGrok says:

          Hong Kong is a “semi-autonomous region” of China, which makes it quite a bit different than important but fully integral parts like (say) Shanghai. That means, per the agreement with Britain for what would happen after 1997, that China has responsibility for the HKSAR’s foreign affairs and defense, while HK mostly runs itself otherwise — except for outlined sticky bits like the extent of democracy. Those on Taiwan run themselves without input from Beijing, but the “Republic of China” on Taiwan ostensibly holds itself out to be the legitimate government of all China, although it presently only controls the Chinese province of Taiwan and a few other small bits. Taiwan authorities used to actually believe that formulation, now not so much, but they still do not and cannot officially change it.

      2. Daiwanlang says:

        All Taiwanese government officials, including the President and former presidents all have stated at one time or another that Taiwan is an independent and sovereign nation. Even Former President Ma of the China friendly KMT, still repeatedly stated Taiwan is an independent and sovereign nation.

        At issue is the desire to change the official name of “Republic of China” which creates confusion internationally about Taiwan as an independent sovereign. China would like the confusion to continue with the eventual goal of annexing Taiwan, and one way to do this is to threaten war and mass murder if Taiwan goes through the formal steps of changing its official name.

        Keep this in mind, China refuses to acknowledge the existence of Republic of China, yet at the same time lines up 2000 missiles to prevent Taiwan from changing its name from Republic of China to Taiwan.

      3. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        Generally speaking, in international law, making a treaty with another country means the country is being officially recognized as a sovereign nation by the country making a treaty with that nation. The U.S. has made at least two treaties with what is now Taiwan.

        Now, one has to acknowledge that Taiwan itself is somewhat ambiguous about its sovereignty and its independence from Communist China. But it seems to me that this amounts to no more than lip service; a polite pretense that Communist China’s claim that Taiwan is just a “breakaway province” actually has some validity.

        In other words, neither Taiwan nor the U.S. is officially stating that Taiwan is an independent, sovereign nation, because Taiwan is afraid that might provoke Communist China to take military action against Taiwan. The U.S. goes along with the ambiguity, apparently because that’s what the government of Taiwan wants.

        But in every practical, realpolitik sense, Taiwan is indeed a sovereign nation, despite what Communist China claims. Other countries — and not just the U.S. — recognize Taiwanese passports as valid, which they wouldn’t if they didn’t consider Taiwan to be a sovereign nation.

        Here is what appears to be an informed and, so far as I can see, neutral article on the subject:

        https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2014-06-03/taiwans-treaty-trouble

  3. Bob Nan says:

    http://ev-sales.blogspot.com/

    Tesla is the #1 seller worldwide in 2016-12 with 13,000 + deliveries of their 2 models.

    And in the same month, more than 100,000 plugin vehicles were sold worldwide which is a new record.

    In 2016, more than 770,000 plugin vehicles were sold and if we include the heavy vehicles like buses and trucks, its above 870,000 vehicles.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Much as I’m a fan of Tesla Motors, I seriously doubt they have ever outsold BYD in the number of plug-in EVs; BEVs plus PHEVs. Now, if you were to count kWh of batteries in the cars they sell, then they might outsell BYD. But BYD sells a lot of microcar, limited speed EVs, and it seems pretty clear that the total number of plug-in EVs they have sold over those years is much larger than Tesla’s total sales.

      http://insideevs.com/plug-ins-already-provide-half-of-byd-vehicle-sales-profit/

      1. Jay Cole says:

        I think Bob was referring to in December specifically (note the “2016-12”).

        BYD had a bit of an off month at ~8k, and Tesla had the vast majority their ordered deliveries shifted into December due to difficulties “transitioning” (this is the word Tesla likes, they even called me personally to talk the goings on early in Q4 and it was used often) to the new hardware in October and the first ~3 weeks of November.

        So he is accurate for December, but BYD was the runaway leader for 2016 overall.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Oh! Thanks for the clarification, Jay. I misread that as 2012-16, as in the years 2012-2016.

          My bad.

      2. Mikael says:

        What microcar, speed limited EVs does BYD sell?

        Hint: They don’t.

        BYD sells roomy SUV taxis and high performance premium EVs.

  4. Jim Whitehead says:

    By Huhu’s party logic, nothing exists without official recognition, so Huhu himself does NOT EXIST unless his government gives him a stupid permission slip and identity card. If his government takes away his citizen card, does he puff into smoke like an illusion and cease to exist?

    (I am just illustrating absurdity by being absurd. Sometimes its the only way to wake up people with heads full of MUSH).

    If Huhu cared to understand more, he should read George Orwell’s novel “1984” for insight into the limits of Group-think.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      I seriously doubt Orwell’s classic anti-USSR novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is available behind the “bamboo curtain”.

      And yeah, Huhu is likely just a figment of the imagination of Communist China’s “50 Cent Army” of poorly paid Internet propaganda contractors. ­čśë

      http://www.voanews.com/a/who-is-that-chinese-troll/3540663.html

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