Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter Now Only $450 – Was $1,000

3 years ago by Eric Loveday 53

Tesla CHAdeMO Adapter

Tesla CHAdeMO Adapter

It was more than a year ago when Tesla Motors first unveiled its Model S CHAdeMO adapter.  The price way back then was $1,000.  Status – coming soon.

While the status of coming soon remains, the price has been cut by more than half: $450

This confirms that Tesla is nearly ready to begin selling this adapter to the public at a far more reasonable price than was first claimed.

We’ve seen this unit in use in the real world before and have heard of some Model S owners getting this adapter as part of a beta testing program, but it seems like soon every Model S owner who wishes to CHAdeMO charge will have access to this adapter at a price of only $450 (provided that Supercharging is already enabled on the Model S).

You can check out the CHAdeMO adapter and other Tesla goodies here.

Tesla Model S Using CHAdeMO Adapter to Grab Some Juice At A Nissan Dealership

Tesla Model S Using CHAdeMO Adapter to Grab Some Juice At A Nissan Dealership

CHAdeMO Adapter Previously Listed at $1,000

CHAdeMO Adapter Previously Listed at $1,000

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53 responses to "Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter Now Only $450 – Was $1,000"

  1. Anon says:

    I don’t think there is an EV out there that has as many different adapters and hence, has as great a flexibility to charge anywhere, as Tesla’s S / X models.

    Still waiting on the Roadster upgrade news, and official Model X debut… 🙁

    1. SeattleTeslaGuy says:

      Sigh. A small problem with that logic – the d@mn adapter STILL hasn’t shipped in the US. I love how people are out there assuming it’s actually available. It’s already available in Japan. I’ve had one on the order list since spring. Worse than vaporware.

      1. Anon says:

        Impatience was never a virtue. Really surprised you’re not elated with the price reduction…

        And even without ChaDeMONSTER adapters, the Model S / X (and possibly updated Roadsters) are still the most flexibly chargeable EV’s in the World.

  2. pjwood says:

    All changing quickly, in New Enland, as MA’s first SC went live, yesterday.

    The Cape and Auburn (metro-west Boston) are built, finished. Then, West Hartford to the south (CT), and heating rumors about Hookset (NH), are all radically setting the table for what I suspect Tesla may aim to sell as an “all-wheel drive winter”.

    Still hoping for CHAdeMO, but the need for it is being supplanted, rapidly.
    http://tinyurl.com/l6z8rgq

    1. martinwinlow says:

      In America, maybe… but wait! There are other countries in the World apart from the USA! No, really!

  3. sven says:

    I’d like to see one of those seven-year kids that was pushing the BMW i3 around try to lift Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter up off the ground. That would make a great video! 😉

  4. The pace of these exciting announcements seem to give Tesla one more edge over legacy OEMs. I will buy this adapter. Even if I only had occasion to use it 10 times over the life of the car, it’s still less than I would expect to pay for a tank of gas for an equivalent size ICE car.

    The value gap between Tesla and the competition grows wider…

    1. sven says:

      I think you meant to say less than paying for 10 tanks of gas. Great point, none the less. 🙂

  5. Someone out there says:

    Isn’t this effectively a 2 ft piece of cable? I still think $450 is a lot for that,

    1. Jouni Valkonen says:

      Tesla is having very high grossmargins in their options. They are selling the base model of car in relatively cheap price, but are taking big profits from options.

      This is similar what Apple does. It sells 16 GB version of iPad in relatively cheap price, but charges 200 dollars extra from 128 GB version! Although the added component cost is perhaps 20 dollars, as flash memory is very cheap.

      This way Tesla and Apple can attract both customers: those who just want the car/iPad but are stretching their budged and those who want the best product and price is irrelevant so they do not mind for paying extra from options.

    2. Brian says:

      It’s 2′ of very thick cable (high current) with some kind of intelligence (probably just a micro-controller) to convert the two communication protocols.

      What you’re really paying for is those two connectors. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they cost $200 each, even for Tesla buying them in bulk.

    3. ggpa says:

      That piece of cable has an expensive connector at either end, in addition to the electronics already mentioned

    4. Joshua Burstyn says:

      I don’t have specifics but I would imagine that the communications protocols are quite different. Charging doesn’t start until after negotiation is complete. Presumably there is also an ongoing communication during the charge session in order to allow tapering towards the end of charging and to prevent overcharging.

    5. Omar Sultan says:

      No, its a very complex connector, a J1772Chademo controller, and licensing fees that get paid back to the Chademo consortium, hence it costs $450 and a straight J1772 adaptor costs $95 if you need to replace the one that comes with the car.

      1. There are no licensing fees to CHAdeMO. It is optional to join the CHAdeMO association.

    6. martinwinlow says:

      No, it isn’t.

  6. Jouni Valkonen says:

    It probably makes more sense that every Chademo charging station is equipped with this Tesla adapter rather than to make Model S/3/X owners to buy this as an option.

    If this is used e.g. 10 times during the ownership of car, it is still quite hefty price for charging.

    1. Ed says:

      Not practical. The stations are unmanned and the adapters would walk off. No one is “making” Tesla owners buy this, and the vast majority of Tesla owners in the U.S. don’t need it. Some will want it if they travel to areas with high Chademo concentration but no superchargers. Also I expect there will services renting the adapter for someone taking a trip.

      1. Jouni Valkonen says:

        So, can you think how much it would add to the cost of adapter, if it is prevented to steal the adapter?

        Solving this kind of engineering problems is good practice for creativity. Although I admit that many people lack creativity and they just fail to see the solutions until someone else is invented them.

        1. See Through says:

          Tesla should just change their connectors, to conform to the CCS standard.

          1. Marc says:

            Once CCS becomes more popular, sure. But as of now I believe there are even less CCS chargers than Tesla superchargers!

          2. Joshua Burstyn says:

            Not really. CCS should change to use the Tesla standard. The connector for CCS is again bulky and complex. Why? Tesla does more with less.

          3. Spec9 says:

            I used to think that . . . . now I think other companies that offer long-range EVs should license the right to use Tesla superchargers from Tesla.

            The superchargers are faster, there are far more of them deployed, there are far more supercharger equipped EVs out there than CCS cars.

            Tesla needs to have fair price for a license though.

          4. That’s funny. Why would any manufacturer want anything to do with the CCS-Combo1 standard?

            It would be smarter for the very limited cars that use that standard (about three thousand TOTAL currently in the USA) to adopt the Tesla or CHAdeMO standard.

      2. We will have this adapter for rent as soon as we can get one.

        1. Spec9 says:

          Wow, that is a great idea. People can rent them when they want to do a long trip.

      3. Bill Howland says:

        Same issue with my even pricier $750 plus tax J1772 adapter for my Tesla Roadster.

        I disliked this thing from the start since anyone can walk off with it. I always shove it underneath the car to fool hopefully somewhat dimwitted thieves. To date I’ve been lucky.

        On the bright side maybe they’ll leave a $450 adapter alone. However, it may get stolen by another model S owner who knows what it is.

  7. Johnny GT says:

    Every time I see a picture like this I wonder what that charge port on the Tesla is made of…That’s a lot of weight hanging off that thing!

  8. I was hoping it was an adapter in the other direction – for those of us with an EV other than Tesla to be able to use a Supercharger on our CHAdeMO Level 3 ports.

    Maybe someday? Pretty please?

    1. Omar Sultan says:

      Musk has said he is open to it as long as other manufactures come up with a way to cover the cost of the electricity.

    2. Spec9 says:

      Yep. I would really hope that GM considers doing that for their 200 mile range EV. That would certainly make me more likely to buy it. Tesla superchargers are faster and they are already deployed out there.

      1. Anon says:

        Buahhahahahaa… You seriously think GM will work hand-in-hand with Tesla on EV’s and charging standards? After Mary laid down the gauntlet in that speech about “winning” the EV market???

        I mean… Sure, it’s RATIONAL to want them to work together– but the sad reality is, GM would rather see Tesla cease to exist, as it’s clearly upsetting the status quo of established, oil-lovin’ Automakers, who now have to change their ways, after 100 plus years of Business As Usual.

      2. Bill Howland says:

        According to the GM big wigs, the volt already has a public “Megacharger”, so 3.3 kw it is for the volt, plus gas of course

    3. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      The only two ways I can see it happening, is:
      a) for competitors’ future long-range EVs, which will be able to charge as fast as a 60kWh Tesla.
      b) competitors pay a larger “infrastructure” fee for cars with shorter range and slower charging, to allow for the greater time at Superchargers.

  9. Ocean Railroader says:

    I wish someone could invent a thing like that this that could convent Chamo to CSS and CSS to Chamo that would be a big hit sales wise.

  10. David Murray says:

    Don’t know why they charge $2,000 for a software activation. I understand they want to get paid for supercharger access. But can’t they re-write the software to allow Chademo but NOT allow supercharger?

    1. Brian says:

      Shhh, don’t say that too loudly. That $2k activation is probably a huge money maker for Tesla!

      1. Omar Sultan says:

        The $2K covers the costs of electricity from SuperChargers for the life of the car. Since both SC and Chademo are DC-DC charging mechanisms that bypass the on-board chargers, there is likely no way for the car to differentiate between the two.

        1. True. The power going into the battery doesn’t know what protocol is controlling it.

          Any of them will charge at whatever amperage is requested by the car.

          1. io says:

            The Model S already transmit its VIN, SoC and a bunch of other data to every Supercharger it’s plugged into, and won’t let its battery be connected to that inlet unless it’s happy with the reply from the other party.
            [See http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/19591-Supercharger-protocol-for-diy-CHAdeMO-adapter/ for some of the gory details of Tesla’s SC protocol]

            As Tesla controls all the pieces (the car, the adapter, and SCs), it’s be absolutely trivial for them to implement signalling allowing to differentiate between Supercharger and CHAdeMO adapter (I’d bet they already do so), and allow either one separately if wanted.

      2. Bill Howland says:

        Haha!

        THat’s the Ponzi style gamble Musk is playing.. As long as people buy they $2000 option, the superchargers are ‘sustainable’.

        He’s gambling people buy it then seldom use it. But I hear the percentage charging from superchargers is growing.

        Obviously Musk must keep selling this option somehow.

    2. Marc says:

      Likely not technically possible since the ChaDeMo adapter would be doing the conversion to Supercharger standard before it hits the car. So the Model S couldn’t tell the difference between being plugged in to a Supercharger or the ChaDeMo adapter. (Of course all this is speculation until the dang thing is released already…)

      1. Ocean Railroader says:

        I’m glad Kia is building the first 100 kilowatt rated Chamo electric car chargers that it would make the Chamo network able to meet the needs of a hungry Tesla Model S.

        1. Joshua Burstyn says:

          Yeah I am going to test the 100kW chargers at the Kia dealership as soon as I can. 🙂

          I wonder if the Tesla adapter handles 25/50 kW stations or whether it’s robust and can handle 100kW. 🙂

          1. Omar Sultan says:

            Not clear, but I do not think so – the site copy says you can charge “at up to 150 miles/hr”, which puts in 50kW territory. But as the car ramps the charge down as the battery fills, who knows.

          2. Mike I says:

            I doubt you will see many, if any, 100kW CHAdeMO units installed by Kia in USA. The one that is being prepared at Kia Stevens Creek in San Jose, CA is just an ABB Terra 53 CJ, which is their regular multi-standard CHAdeMO + CCS 50kW DC Fast Charger.

      2. Stephen says:

        I don’t buy that. It’s just another way to encourage owners to sign up for Supersharger access. Its their adapter design. They could easily program a code for a non-supercharger enabled car to recognize it.

        1. io says:

          +1.
          The need for this “supercharging activation” is a marketing requirement, not a technical limitation.

  11. Francis L says:

    With more and more superchargers, this adapter become less and less important. And I think this price reflect that.

    People who needs it will pay that price. But only if they really needs it.

  12. Spec9 says:

    Damn . . . Tesla cars are so spoiled when it comes to fast-charging.

    With this adapter, the 60KWH model becomes much more useful too.

    1. The 60kWh Tesla car would have to have Supercharging enabled.

  13. We did a trip to Yosemite where there weren’t many superchargers, so I rented a charger from chademo2go.com. I paid $109 for a week but the fee was “all in” (shipping both ways, etc). It was well worth it as we charged twice in places where we otherwise would have been waylaying for half a day (once at a Walmart with its trickle charge). My time and our trip was more valuable.