Nearly All Tesla Model 3 Reservation Holders Say They’ll Opt For Non-Base Version Of Electric Car

3 months ago by Steven Loveday 50

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Tesla Model 3

Tesla Model 3

Tesla Model 3

As we have reported before, Model3Tracker.info has become the most notable place to check out data related to the upcoming Tesla Model 3. Updated information shows that nearly every reservation holder plans to upgrade.

This is to be expected, since many of the features that Tesla is most famous for, will not come standard. Also, better-equipped models will come off the assembly line sooner than base models. Added to this, the car (especially if there is still a federal EV rebate in place) is leaps and bounds cheaper than Tesla’s current offerings.

The website is tracking 6,300 Model 3 reservation holders. Let’s take a look at what the respondents said:

  • 65 percent plan to pony up Autopilot
  • 43.07 percent plan to opt for Enhanced Autopilot
  • 39.75 percent desire a larger battery pack
  • 11 percent hope for dual motor (no Ludicrous)
  • 8 percent plan to splurge for the Ludicrous option

If you factor it all together, 93 percent of those participating are intending some sort of available features, beyond the standard equipment. Of those upgraders, a majority are more interested in longer range, than greater performance. While these two sort of go hand in hand – as a larger battery will travel further and perform better – based on the assumed options, the two are not completely one in the same.

The consensus on the street is that the Tesla Model 3 will have battery capacity options ranging between 50 and 75 kWh. Paul Carter, founder of Model3Tracker.info, doesn’t anticipate that the first wave of Model 3 vehicles will come equipped with a larger limited, unlockable battery option. However, there is no way to know for sure what Tesla’s plan is.

Hopefully, Tesla will put the Model 3 Design Studio live sometime in June, so that people can begin making choices prior to the initial production pursuit. Teslarati says that Tesla may be able to produce as many as 110,000 Model 3s before the close of 2017. Other recent reports have speculated as low as 30,000, and up to 80,000 or more.

Source: Teslarati

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50 responses to "Nearly All Tesla Model 3 Reservation Holders Say They’ll Opt For Non-Base Version Of Electric Car"

  1. ijonjack says:

    My would be Bigger Battery, Dual Motors, Softer Riding Or Higher Profile Tires, & A Hole in the Roof . Now that would be Nice!

    1. Disappointed says:

      I suspect that All of the features of the “Model 3”, will be much closer to
      to the “Model S”, than anyone imagined,
      Particularly the Price !

      1. Rstey says:

        Spot on 😀

        1. Get Real says:

          Hey look, 2 new usernamesite here to cry that the sky is falling.

          I wonder which existing shill, shorter or hater they are?

      2. toni says:

        This might not be a problem for many people 🙂

    2. R.S says:

      I can do that hole thing cheaply! Let’s say $100 for an aftermarket hole, plus labor?

      1. Is that you, Farmer John? I want my Axe Back!
        /Sarc

        1. ijonjack says:

          Good price…Geeze I was thinkin of letin ya do it @ that Price ….But if ya gonna use the Axe , I need I little more time on that…….L m a o

  2. DJ says:

    Or an even better and frankly more useful poll. What % of Model 3 reservation holders actually know what the base model will offer???

    1. notting says:

      Yes! I couldn’t find any piece of information concerning the smallest battery capacity that will be available (just “something <60kWh"). So how should they know if they want more battery capacity?! Do they say like "We need much more range!" (different to many current EV users…).

      notting

  3. David Murray says:

    For me, I think it would depend on what the base model offers. My 2017 Volt is essentially a base model with just a few minor extra features like heated seats and leather. And I only took it because it was the cheapest one they had on the lot. I would have been fine with cloth seats.

    But the Volt is surprisingly well-equipped for a base-model.

  4. Electrode says:

    All these numbers are far from accurate. These respondents can put that they are going to order anything or everything but when it comes to really pony up the $$$ things will be different. I would bet that all these numbers will be lower and there will be more base vehicles that you think. It will be a great car even without options.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Thank you for that reality check. It’s sad that it’s actually needed.

      I wish all these articles on cars which are still in development, like the M3, articles which are nothing but fact-free guesswork, would be clearly labeled as exactly that: Just speculation.

    2. “It will be a great car even without options.” Even Elon said that!

      1. pjwood1 says:

        Elon likes falcon wings and “space ship” like, steering wheel’less, controls. I guess for some people, those things are super awesome.

      2. Brian says:

        The BMW 3-Series has been a great car (actually the near undisputed gold standard for compact sport sedans) for nearly it’s entire existence.

        Check the base price vs average transaction price and you’ll get a good idea how Model 3 buyers will behave when checking option boxes.

      3. Thomas says:

        Elon tells a lot…..

  5. BenG says:

    In my opinion it will be pretty amazing if Tesla can produce and deliver even 30,000. Those larger figures are frankly unbelievable.

    If everything goes great Tesla will be able to produce 5,000/week before the end of the year, but I wouldn’t expect them to hit that rate even in the best case scenario until very late in the year.

    If they are able to begin production in July as planned, it will initially be at a very low rate with lots of quality control testing required of the cars rolling off the line.

    1. Good Zilla says:

      Everyone’s opinion is always limited by what they know. The leadership of Imperial Japan did not believe the United States’ claim that it had a new bomb, just one of which would demolish an entire city. Experience then revealed the truth. Opinions become burnt trash if the Model 3 is the bomb. Whatever the case, the past is largely over.

    2. Hank S. says:

      The other numbers people are throwing around exclude delivery and are max possible production figures (almost always qualified with “if everything goes perfectly”). That means that both the 80k max production estimate and your 30k actual delivery estimate can both be true/accurate.

  6. Nix says:

    Of the 6,498 reservations they are tracking, they have only recorded 5 cancellations.

    Obviously the site is self-selecting so it isn’t scientific. But I would have actually expected a higher cancellation rate just due to “stuff happens” in life type of events. Like health problems, economic hardships, etc. Even on s site where users self-select participation.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      You mentioned the factor of self-selection, Nix, but this appears to be unusually biased even taking that into consideration. In fact, I wonder if it’s an indication of some malfunction of how the website counts or displays its data.

      It was reported, some years back, that the cancellation rate for Model S reservations was 25%. It’s simply not believable that the cancellation rate for the M3 would be multiple orders of magnitude lower.

      1. “It’s simply not believable that the cancellation rate for the M3 would be multiple orders of magnitude lower.”

        And why not? Tesla, at the time of first Model S deliveries, was barely beyond demonstrating that they could build some nice EV conversions, but today, they have proven commitment on 2 cars in production, the charging infrastructure, battery production, wide international expansion, etc!

        Sure, things can still go wrong, but 1st Model 3 should not really be equated to 1st Model S!

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Just common sense, Robert. Life happens, and stuff happens. Plans have to be changed to deal with reality. That $1000 someone loaned to Tesla yesterday, may be something they really need today. Or someone who reserved a M3 may have their car die, and need to get a new(er) car now rather than wait a year or two.

          Only 5 cancellations out of the 6,300 who responded to that online poll? That’s simply not a credible number.

  7. Ken says:

    I camped out overnight at the Devon Tesla service center and was second in line. I plan to order the $35,000 base model. If it’s cheaper without floor mats or front plate holder, i’ll skip those items too. And everyone in line with me felt the same way. There was a current model S owner or two in line that would add some options. But most in line said they planned to buy a base model and that this would be the most expensive car they ever bought. Some even said it would be the first brand new car they ever bought. It’s not my first brand new car, that would have been my Leaf or my Mini E. But if its stays at $35,000 it will be actually be cheaper than i paid for my 2012 Leaf SV by a few bucks.

  8. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    The conclusion stated in the headline of this article, that very few M3 buyers will buy the base model with no options, should not come as a surprise to anyone. Relatively few highway-capable, 4-wheeled cars are sold with no upgrades or options at all.

    And let’s keep in mind what “Electrode” pointed out, above; that these numbers only show what people would like to have, before they know the price of such options. The actual percentage of buyers paying for those options may turn out to be quite different.

  9. georgeS says:

    I may cancel my order and just stay with my Model S.

    There is one thing that could swing me to going with a M3 however. Charging rate.

    4 miles per minute is what i’ve been getting on the model S. Yes it varies but if you pull into the super charger with around 100 miles showing for your range, that means to get 80 miles more you are at the super charger for 20 minutes.

    Sure if you are eating lunch it’s no big deal but I was in a hurry yesterday and really would have liked a faster rate.

    The M3 will be more efficient than the S. So that alone will give a better charging rate in miles per hour.

    I’m hoping Tesla/Panasonic has upgraded the battery to be able to take more power. More power (C rate) combined with a more efficient car (ie the cars electric consumption in miles/kwh) would make a significant improvement in charge times.

    As far as the other options. We’ll see what they cost. I may just upgrade from my 2012 Model S to a 2014…first year for auto pilot.

    Also, I love my hatch back. I don’t like the fact M3 will not have one.

    1. Koenigsegg says:

      So because you had 1 bad experience you’re letting that affect your overall perception of the car.

      LOL come on son. Where you at now? Everything with your car is fine. And time does not exist, only clocks do.

      1. georgeS says:

        “So because you had 1 bad experience you’re letting that affect your overall perception of the car.”

        It’s not 1 bad experience that’s how fast the S charges. A faster charging rate is always desirable.

  10. Brian says:

    Not a reservation holder, but I think I’ve talked myself into a base Model 3. I’d go for few, if any, options. It still be the most expensive (and best!) car I’ve ever owned.

  11. Four Electrics says:

    Assuming a slow and troublesome ramp, I’m more interested the egregiously priced options which will exist only to prevent cannibalization of S sales until volume can be brought up. A $40K mandatory Ludicrous package is an example.

    This is not a foregone conclusion: Tesla can simply promise extreme wait times instead, but I don’t think it will be enough.

    1. Get Real says:

      So says the serial Tesla-fudster(s).

      I guess 4E, sven, zzzzzzzzzz, tftf and all the other shills, shorters and haters are really going to be passed this time next year when Model 3s are everywhere.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        As they say, “Haters gonna hate.”

        Why is it that so many of those who post anti-Tesla FUD online seem to be compulsive liars? Why do they continue to write lies even when nobody is likely to believe them? Perhaps when someone tells lies that often, it becomes second nature, so that after awhile they can’t help themselves.

        One fable speaks to that:

        “Two types… The scorpion and the frog. Ever heard of them?

        “Scorpion wants to cross a river, but he can’t swim. Goes to the frog, who can, and asks for a ride. Frog says, ‘If I give you a ride on my back, you’ll go and sting me.’ Scorpion replies, ‘It would not be in my interest to sting you, since as I’ll be on your back, we both would drown.’

        “Frog thinks about this logic for a while, and accepts the deal. Takes the scorpion on his back. Braves the waters. Halfway over feels a burning spear in his side and realizes the scorpion has stung him after all.

        “And as they both sink beneath the waves the frog cries out, ‘Why did you sting me, Mr. Scorpion, for now we both will drown!’ Scorpion replies, ‘I can’t help it, it’s in my nature.'”

        –“The Crying Game” (1992)

  12. MTN Ranger says:

    I’m planning on a $50-55k Model 3 with larger battery, AWD, leather, glass roof. If prices work in my favor, add in the sub zero and air suspension.

    I fully expect to wait until around mid 2018 for east coast delivery.

    1. McKemie says:

      Her is some retrospective. I ordered my S in December 2012 without ever having even seen an S. The only option I selected was the 85 battery. At that time, I did not realize that air suspension was required for reasonable ground clearance. My 3 WILL have air suspension.

  13. Doggydogworld says:

    110k units in 2017? Teslarati people need to stop dropping acid.

  14. LKG says:

    If a capacity of a company is limited and battery production is limited it seems supplying demand the fastest way possible would be smart. The government’s of the world establishing the rules for car manufacturing is not established yet. Why not drive my model 3 for a couple of years and get my second model 3 with autonomous ability once the Secretary of Transportation and the Transportation departments of 50 states workout the details. If I opt for a glass roof how will I keep the roof clean when the migratory birds take a rest in the tree I parked under. The real nuisance is the sun makes it hard to read the very important text I just received or is the the latest Facebook post. I had one bad experience with a HEMI and I don’t need to accelerate at Insidious 0 to 60 miles per hour and have to explain to a Judge how much fun it was running at Red Line. I just love Elon’s subliminal humor naming his car after such a perfect descriptive adjective. I think he had a conversation with the same Judge.
    I think if I was trying to get the most customers happy, I would build three customer’s cars with 40 KWh batteries rather than two customer’s cars with 60 KWh. Personally I rarely drive over 200 Miles a day. If range is what I need a Mercedes-Benz van with 170″ wheelbase is smooth riding. For the distances where the destination is more important than the journey, American Airlines is the way to go.

    A basic model 3 is faster than sprinting and think of all the carbon dioxide I exhale.

  15. J says:

    On mine, i’ll be getting:
    Likely a batter capacity upgrade (want at least 250 miles, but I might do without)
    Panoramic roof (not a sunroof)
    Ultrawhite seats.

  16. evnow says:

    This is the big story – completely missed in the article.

    •39.75 percent desire a larger battery pack

    i.e. 60% (!) will go with the base battery. Compare this to when S launched and so few opted for the (crippled) 40 kwh that Tesla cancelled it.

  17. Devin Serpa says:

    Likely the base would be much more sufficient and more optioned than most other cars.

    I mean really, my base Soul EV vs a base Model 3? Come on, current EVers will be fine with the base.

    Other luxury mid $30k’s customers might be looking for the upgrades…

  18. Dr. Steelgood says:

    How can you say “Nearly all” when you have a sample base of 1.6% (some 6500 out of 400,000 reservation holders) and some 60% of these (at maximum) opt for an upgrade – this comes down to approx. 1%. So, your statement is not serious at all, politely said. What about the silent majority of 98.4% reservation holders who don’t surf on different related internet fora every day ? Nobody has asked me about my reservation so far. As long as we have no specifications and prices for base/upgrade, this is pure speculation !

    1. DB currently in DC says:

      That’s exactly what I was thinking. I don’t remember being asked what I was planing on doing. The title of the article…like so many today…is very misleading. They should have said “Nearly All Model 3 Reservation Holders Polled….” We don’t need “click-bait” titles.

      I am still looking forward to actually seeing the configurator when it comes out. I opted to go ahead and by a Model S..picked it up a few days ago..but I’m still looking at probably getting a # as well.

  19. Tilyon says:

    It is suppose to be a 30,000. Dollars car not 50,000. It bas to be an every ONE car. I see that you need more Money first before building an every one’s car.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      I don’t think anyone at Tesla ever claimed the Model 3 will be an “everyman” car. And those who say it is, are ignoring reality rather firmly. No car in the “semi-affordable” price range is going to be an “everyman” car.

      No, it will be some future EV that’s sold at a lower price, something under $28,000, which will be the first “everyman” EV.

  20. bro1999 says:

    “43% want Enhanced Autopilot”

    Based off this Autopilot 2.0 video (with the most recent firmware), those 43% may be waiting a while!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYav3_7miIc

    Or may not, since Tesla is just fine releasing features to owners as beta testers that are obviously not ready for prime time.

    But hey, that’s what makes Tesla “cutting edge”, right?

    To those poor guys that actually want a base Model 3….they might want to pick up a sun dial.

    1. Bacardi says:

      If you’re going to go, why not go while getting frisky in the back seat?

  21. Bill Howland says:

    I don’t see why people are worrying about a $35,000 car since Mr. Musk has said the first ‘3’s will be loaded. The few commenters here saying they expect to pay $45-50k seem to be the more realistic, at least for the first two years. It will take at least that long to satisfy the 300,000 reservations.

    As far as wanting a bigger battery, I would have loved that option in my BOLT and it is 60 kwh to begin with. But I’ll live with the 60.

    1. Brian says:

      Don’t we all want a bigger battery, Bill. In the meantime, your Bolt still has the biggest battery of any EV you’ve owned (beating even the Roadster with a considerable margin).

      I know I critiqued the car pretty hard on Friday. Thinking about it over the weekend, none of those things are deal killers. It’s not my *ideal* choice, but I could see myself in a Bolt for the right price. Unfortunately, it’s still a little steep for me. Maybe Chevy will offer some deals in the future, or I can pick up an off-lease copy in 2-3 years. If I can stand to wait that long!

      P.S. Sorry about burning some miles off of your tread. That car really moves in Sport mode!

      1. Bill Howland says:

        Yeah, I put a little more air in the tires to help them even be more low-rolling-resistant.

        I suppose it is a good mental exercise to see precisely what will be standard equipment with the model 3, what options it will have, and what the price of those options will be.

        I’m guessing it will have a 55 kwh battery as a base. It will be interesting to see what battery/charging/supercharging options span off from that.

  22. F says:

    Article title should be: “Nearly All Tesla Model 3 Reservation Holders That Participate In The Website Model3tracker.info Say They’ll Opt For Non-Base Version Of Electric Car”.

    Otherwise, 6,300 out of almost 373K reservations is NOT statistically significant.

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