Share of Supercharged Miles For Tesla Model S Increased From 5% to 8%

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Some three months ago we reported that more than 5% of total Tesla Model S miles were Supercharged miles.

The latest quarterly data indicates that Model S owners use more and more Superchargers and currently the share of Supercharged miles exceeds 8%!

“Our customers have now driven the Model S for 394 million miles globally, saving nearly 18 million gallons of gasoline.”

“Since inception, our customers have driven for free nearly 32 million Supercharged miles, the same distance as traveling to the moon and back, sixty-five times!”

An overall 3% change in just three months seems high, meaning usage over the summer has been very high (~15%). As Tesla is selling more cars, entering new markets and installing new Superchargers, the share of Supercharged miles will change for sure.

We are of course curious what will be the result in the long term and how high this Supercharged share of miles will go.

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34 responses to "Share of Supercharged Miles For Tesla Model S Increased From 5% to 8%"

  1. Sublime says:

    It seems like the growth of SC usage is even greater than that. If you subtract the miles reported in the “5%” article from these, you get 15% of miles using SC for this period.

    1. Sublime says:

      Used 14m miles instead of 15m in old article. It’s actually 14.3%

    2. Mint says:

      15% is what I’m expecting, but remember that these are summer months. You have a lot more road trips at this time than the rest of the year.

      There is also a novelty factor with the Model S and supercharging. New cars are taken on road trips more often than older cars.

  2. Boris says:

    When Model 3 comes out, people will abuse those SC’s even more…

    1. Mikael says:

      You misspelled it. It’s spelled “use” not “abuse”.

        1. Boris says:

          good stuff 🙂 didn’t know this song would ever fit under a supercharger article…

      1. Boris says:

        🙂 not if you “use” on your daily commute from work

        1. mike w says:

          Model S owners already paid $2000 up front to “use” the super charger network anytime they want to. Superchargers are critical for people who live in condos and townhouses that can’t recharge at home.

          1. See Through says:

            I don’t know how people will wait half an hour to an hour every other day to charge up at super chargers. It will be too much wasted time.

          2. Jouni Valkonen says:

            No, only 60 kWh version owners are paying an upfront payment from supercharging. 85 kWh owners will get it for free forever. The supercharging costs are not earmarked, but they are financed from Tesla’s total revenue stream.

            It will probably be the same that 200 mile version of Model III supercharging is optional but 300 mile version it is included as standard. I think that this is related to battery warranty problems, because larger battery pack can tolerate better supercharging.

            Actually, If we trace the true cost of Tesla’s supercharging network, then actually Lexus owners are paying the bills, because supercharging network increases the value of Tesla cars and therefore relative value of Lexus cars is reduced. Therefore Lexus owners must pay more for their car and this increased cost of Lexus car is where the cost of Supercharging network is actually payed.

            Tracing who pays what is very complex and above is simplified example. But the point is that the marginal cost of supercharging network is probably negatively, because it increases the value of Tesla cars. And therefore actually non-Tesla car owners are those who are paying Tesla’s electricity bills.

    2. Aas says:

      I doubt that relevant percentage of Model IIIs will be supercharge capable. I suppose, it will by a paid option that not so many customers will be willing to pay for. Because many are awaiting Model III as affordable, better alternative to Leaf.

      1. Mikael says:

        And I’m pretty sure the number of people opting for super charging for the Model III will be more than 90%.

        1. Jouni Valkonen says:

          For most of the Model III cars supercharging will be included as standard. The point of supercharging is that it is free forever and if Tesla would sell it as an option, this would counteract against Tesla’s principles.

          Supercharging will be optional or even disabled probably only for shortest range Model III, but it will also be the least selling version. We remember that Tesla had to discontinue 40 kWh Model S, because people do not want to buy short ranged EVs.

          The point why Supercharging is optional with 60 kWh version is that smaller battery cannot tolerate supercharging as well as larger 85 kWh battery. Therefore that optionality is there to ensure that Tesla is not end up into warranty problems. For the same reason, 60 kWh battery has mileage limited warranty.

  3. lithium says:

    This makes sense to Volt owners if you think about the electric/gas split. I drive on electric almost all the time. But when I use gas I use a lot of gas because I’m on a long trip. The result is 25% of my miles are on gas.
    I think you will see the same thing with the Tesla supercharger. You don’t use it very often, but when you do it’s because you are on a long trip and need a lot of miles charged up quickly. Long term I would expect to see about 30% of miles from Superchargers.

    1. kdawg says:

      Makes sense.

      And your post reminded me of the Dos Equis ads.

      “I don’t always use a Supercharger… but when I do…I prefer 80kWhs.”

      1. sven says:

        Stay charged, my friends.

  4. pjwood says:

    The “for free” part must abrade some of those who paid 2k to enable, 1+ year ago, especially if they can’t use it where SC’s have yet to exist. There is obviously hardware cost in the SC feature, but otherwise that spent $2k could have bought a lot of 10 cent kwh’s.

    Look at the 100,000 annualized end of 2015 unit goal, and you can see SC’s will need serious management, long before Model 3 comes out.

    1. vdiv says:

      The 10c/kWh are worthless unless you can get them “into” your battery, especially in a reasonable time 😉

      Also comparisons of the cost of charging an EV at home vs. in public are poor because they miss the whole point of having an EV, which is to get to places other than home.

    2. kdawg says:

      The $2k price for Supercharging is OK in my book. It’s similar to paying for a feature, like hi-fidelity sound. I don’t look at it as the amount of electricity I would consume. Supercharging would let me take my Tesla beyond the AER and ‘refuel’ in 30 minutes. So $2000 pays for enhancing/expanding the driving experience.

      If they make this an option on the Model III, I will buy it. There is more than enough $ coming in to pay for the SC network, they can just keep expanding it as demand calls for it.

      1. sven says:

        That $2K Supercharger hidden fee/cost also enhances the resale value of your Tesla.

        It’s my understanding that Tesla doesn’t pay rent for the Supercharger spaces because the landlord/property owner believes they will generate foot traffic of high net worth individuals to the proprty owner’s business. Does anyone know if the Superchargers are actually generating the anticipated increase in business for the property owners? If not, will property owners want Tesla to start paying rent when the lease comes up for renewal? Will the Supercharger model at the current $2K cost still be sustainable if Tesla has to start paying rent for the Supercharger spaces?

        1. kdawg says:

          Probably, because the Teslas won’t last forever, and Tesla got your $2k already. So if you buy a new Tesla, they get another $2k.

          1. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

            A certain fraction of that is recovered when you sell your previous car. That fraction is the difference in resale value between SC-equipped vs. non-SC-equipped 60kWh vehicles that are otherwise equally-spec’d.

        2. Jouni Valkonen says:

          Actually that $2k for enabling supercharging is reducing the resale value of Tesla car, because supercharging reduces the longevity of battery.

  5. Anderlan says:

    I think this is called summer. People take more road trips in summer.

  6. A 5% to 8% usage as a percentage of supercharged miles traveled while:
    1. number of Supercharging locations increased from 103 to 167
    2. number of countries increased from 5(?) to 12
    3. Number of Model S’s increased ~7500 to ~40,000 (23% increase in Tesla’s fleet in the last quarter)

    Once the Supercharger network is established near most major global metro regions, I’d expect the average percent of supercharged miles to become a relative constant (likely no more than 8-12%). Also, I expect that Model S extended range miles (DCFC, or supercharged) will be a lower percentage than seen with BEVs having less battery capacity and range.

    1. Brian, you seem to forget that an increase from 5% to 80% actually is a 60% increase – not a 3% increase!

      🙂

  7. ffbj says:

    It will vary according to region/state/country.
    So in CA with a very heavy sc presence I could see 25% of miles driven within a few years when the Model S has reached a certain level of saturation and the Model X is out.
    While in 10 years I doubt if Tesla drivers in MT will have much more than 10% of trips on sc. In MT you really have to need to go somewhere for some reason or you just stay put.

  8. ffbj says:

    Point being that in MT there is no need to get away from it all, as you already are. The vacation is to go to the big city. Butte for instance, Woohoo! See how the decadent city people live.

  9. Mikael says:

    In general 10-15% in Europe, 20-25% the US and in China… well.. I have no idea but I think it will be the highest use at least.

  10. ragin cajun says:

    While a Model S is outside my price range, I hope the mythical $35k gets here soon…But as near as I can see on the SC maps, I would never be able to make it to/from many parts of the South. Even the gambling cities don’t have a clue…

  11. Lou says:

    I wonder if a business case could be made for an “EV charging cafe”? You know, set up a small coffee shop/snack shop/light lunch shop next to a Super Charger? It might not get a whole lot of use now, but in a few years, when SC’s are more popular and are “everywhere”, I can see a smart business person buying land and having a shop set up to service the SC customers. Many SC customers will not be sitting there for 30 minutes, I’d imagine many would just check in for 15 minutes or so, grab a coffeee, soda, pastry or hamburger whle their car charges. In fact, if Nissan and some of the other EV makers ever collaborate with Tesla in regards to SC’ing, you would see a steady stream of customers. Not quite what you’d see at a McDonald’s all day, but more than enough to sustain a healthy business.

    Lou

  12. Bill Howland says:

    If the trend continues we’ll probably be seeing more articles about congested supercharger parking spots and Tesla’s mounting electric bills.

    I wonder if its smarts to pay the $20/kw monthly demand charges in places like Southern California Edison, and then pay the confiscatory per kwh day rate, since I’d assume the majority of usage is in the On-Peak hours.

  13. Mr. M says:

    I just calculated my supercharger usage if i had a Tesla. I estimated that all my long range driving would be by supercharger, which is oubiously wrong, but a good start for estimation. Based on the length i drive a day during long range a better estimation would be something like half of this km.

    My “long” range travel during year is around 2.500km. I drive around 15.000km/year. So supercharger would be used for 16.6% of all travel. But we start with a full battery, so supercharger use would be only something around 8-9%. If I want to save money this percentage might go up to 15%, but more is not reasonable, because no supercharger is downtown and i dont want do drive 100km to charge for free.

    Other european opinions/calculations?