Refreshed 2016 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Review, 0-25 MPH Now Two Seconds Quicker – Video

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2016 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Looking "Refreshed"

2016 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Looking “Refreshed”

With the newly refreshed 2016 Outlander PHEV now reaching customers throughout Europe and in Japan, and with a newly revised delivery expectation for the US (forward for a change – August 2016), we figured now would be a good time to publish a review of just what the new Outlander PHEV is all about from the UK (Car Keys).

For US readers, we should note the Outlander PHEVs first “official US debut” to see the plug-in SUV in the flesh will be at the New York Auto Show in March.

Additionally, Americans should ignore all the bits about what the DC fast charging/CHAdeMO abilities can do for you – that featured is not available (on any trim level) for the United States.  Just 3.3 kW L2 charging for you.

Besides adopting Mitsubishi’s new design language, there has been changes functionally to the Outlander PHEV as well:  the plug-in is more emissions friendly, the efficiency by a decent chunk, heated steering wheel is now available standard, and overall the Outlander PHEV is a full 2 seconds quicker to 25 mph.

Hat tip to offib!

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37 responses to "Refreshed 2016 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Review, 0-25 MPH Now Two Seconds Quicker – Video"

  1. Nix says:

    Has it been confirmed that the US will be getting the exact same version as the EU/Japan (minus the fast charging)?

    I still haven’t seen anything official from Mitsubishi confirming there are no other changes other than the charging.

    1. kdawg says:

      I’m guessing the steering wheel will be on the opposite side 🙂

      1. Nix says:

        Hopefully they move the pedals too…

        *grin*

  2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    So… no increase in the all-electric range, estimated at a mere ~23 miles on the EPA cycle; and only a 3.3 kW charger?

    Seems like when the Outlander PHEV finally arrives on American shores, it will already be outdated.

    1. Nix says:

      Outdated? Limited, yes, but “outdated” implies something has outdated it by superseding it.

      Please point me to what other SUV class PHEV you can get with more EV range at the same price point that makes the Outlander out of date.

      1. Bill Howland says:

        Looks great to me Nix…. As far as mileage they seem to best even the plug-in-prius, and also do better than most of the Mercedes models…

        So, depending on how they price it, you could visualize many families wanting this vehicle.

        It really can’t be all bad if it is the most popular EV in Europe. If it becomes the most popular EV in America, what will the naysayers say then?

        A car that is built down to a price cannot have absolutely every latest feature.

        They’ll probably start criticizing the people who bought the car… But it looks plenty good enough to me.

    2. John says:

      If they sell well here, (and I believe they will,) the model will only improve. Everyone has to start somewhere. I am just excited to see an affordable’ish PHEV SUV. My wife commutes a whopping 10 miles to work, and we run most errands in town. Even with 20 miles of range, we would rarely use gas.

      I call it a win.

      1. EV AZ says:

        Totally agree, what will the mpg with an ICE be compared to the PHEV with 21mi range?

        28mpg ICE to a 100+mpg PHEV

    3. LEAF_n_PiP says:

      I actually agree with not including DC fast charging on the US models, as there simply aren’t enough DC chargers available so it would be silly to have them be occupied by a model that can only get 23 miles of range anyways, and most owners would never use it nor want to pay for it. That being said, I truly hope they bring 6kW charging for the US market.

      1. Alan says:

        +1 to that. Keep the DCFCs for EVs, not PHEVs, but by this date we should have most, if not all, new PHEVs with 6.6 kW charging.

        1. kdawg says:

          I thought the benefit of the Chademo port was that you could feed generator power out of the car?

          1. Nix says:

            That is the real loss, in my personal opinion, for my personal needs.

      2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        The average car buyers keeps his car for 7 years. If you’re just leasing, then perhaps the 3.3 kW charger won’t be a problem. But if you’re actually buying the car, you need to think about how it will perform over the years you intend to keep it. If a 3.3 kW charger is not already considered outdated by most PEV buyers, it certainly will be within a couple of years or so.

        Removing a faster charger which is available on the European model shows Mitsubishi isn’t committed to selling a truly competitive PHEV. In the past, I could excuse them not selling the Outlander in the USA, because they were probably production constrained, and balance of trade issues might prevent them from making as much profit here. But now it looks like they just don’t care about potential American customers.

        1. Paul says:

          I think there’s less margin for Mitsu in the US relative to Europe, so to prop it up to acceptable levels they take away the fast charger.

    4. Samwise says:

      Which is exactly why you can pick one up for basically the same price as the none hybrid version…
      They could double the range but ultimately it would add to the purchase price and move the vehicle out of reach of a lot of buyers.
      It’s a car balanced for a specific market/price range and overseas sales say they have got this almost perfect.
      The problem is not this car, the problem is the fact there is really only one option available from ANY manfacturer and it’s impossible to make a car thats perfect for everyone.

  3. ct200h says:

    I’d take 6.6 to 7.4 ac charge rate over DCFC

  4. tom911 says:

    Can you charge the battery 100% using the ICE?

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Why would you want to? There’s no advantage, and a strong disadvantage: using the gas motor to charge the battery pack makes the car more inefficient.

      There is a practical reason for using the motor to keep the battery pack from falling below a certain minimum level of charge. But to actually use it to charge a pack to a higher charge level is just wasting gasoline and adding air pollution to the environment.

      1. Just_Chris says:

        A lot of EU cities are considering zero emission zones. In these zones you may get fined for running your engine…. perhaps, depending on how they do it. I think it is better to run the engine out of town to charge the car and then drive in town with the engine off.

        1. David S. says:

          I think it is better * to plug it * to charge the car and then drive in town with the engine off.

      2. neez says:

        My commute consists of 15 miles of country road, then 35miles of all highway, then another 10 miles of slow 30-40mph suburban. I did read that you can charge the battery with the ICE on the highway, then use full EV mode in your suburban commute which makes sense as a strategy to save fuel.

  5. Philip d says:

    “and overall the Outlander PHEV is a full 2 seconds quicker to 25 mph.”

    And 2 seconds slower from 25 mph to 60 mph?

    What was the old 0-25 mph and what does this mean for overall performance? Was it just a change in gear ratio? Is is quicker in EV mode as well or just under full hybrid power?

    Seems like a weird stat improvement to tout.

    1. kdawg says:

      If they shaved off 2 seconds, it must have been pretty slow getting to a measly 25mph.

    2. protomech says:

      According to this, the old Outlander PHEV did 0-40 km/h (25 mph) in 3.22 seconds.

      http://www.myoutlanderphev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=767

      2 seconds faster than that seems somewhat unlikely.

      The Volt does 0-30 mph (close to 0-50 km/h) in just under 3 seconds, compared to 4 seconds for the old Outlander PHEV; the Outlander PHEV being able to do similar would be quite impressive.

    3. Nix says:

      Now I don’t have any facts to back this up, but the only thing I could think of to explain the faster 0-25 speed might be from having the gas motor and the electric motor both provide power at the same time.

      1. Philip d says:

        I think all posted times have always assumed that. It’s very hard to find any reliable times or any times for that matter posted in EV only mode.

  6. Alex says:

    I love this car, but best would be a 50 kWh Outlander Sport dual motor like the eX Concept.

  7. Trollnonymous says:

    At least have a 6.6KW charger.
    3.3KW is quite disappointing.

  8. Just_Chris says:

    I always find the comments on this page about the Outlander interesting a few things always seem to come up with fairly easy answers:

    Why is the range so low? this car was designed for Japan and the EU, in particular for people who want to drive an SUV in a European city these people don’t rack up a massive mileage in a day so there is no need for 50 miles range. It also means that you can share the platform with a pure ICE version. The question that I find myself asking is not why the Outlander has a modest PHEV version but rather why is the Nissan Pathfinder hybrid (with a lithium pack) not a PHEV.

    Why does it only have a 3.3kW charger? Standard wall plugs in the EU give 3.3 kW there is no cheap way to increase that to 6.6 kW.

    Why can you charge the car when driving? EU cities are dense and full of smog, some of these cities are being fined for pollution and so are considering legislation to ban turning your engine on in town. What worries me is that these cars might be bought by people who want to drive in the city but don’t have access to charging infrastructure, they may always charge the car whilst driving never plugging it in.

    Why put a DCFC on a PHEV? Every motorway service station in Britain and a lot of service stations in Holland have DCFC’s in them, if you are going to stop to pee why not charge your car to 80%. Petrol is a lot more expensive in the UK than the US so getting another 30 km range from a free DCFC would probably pay for your coffee, well it would have done if you weren’t in a motorway service station.

    Why has it been delayed for the US so often? It was designed for the EU and Japan. The EU in particular has very strong legislation that will come into force in 2020 that means a lot more PHEV’s for the EU. It will shock some, but there are other places in the world other than the US and people do design products specifically for those other places.

    1. Nix says:

      +1

      Every Outlander PHEV story should include a link to this comment…

      *grin*

      1. Phr3d says:

        +1 both, thanks!

  9. ModernMarvelFan says:

    “verall the Outlander PHEV is a full 2 seconds quicker to 25 mph.”

    How slow was it before?

    Typical cars can do 0-25 in anywhere from 2 secs to 3 seconds..

    I doubt it could do it in 2 seconds or faster, so it must be super slow before.

  10. ModernMarvelFan says:

    I won’t be surprised to hear that Outlander PHEV will be delayed again in May 2016 for the Aug release and the model will be pushed out to 2017…

    1. Rich says:

      I don’t understand Mitsubishi management. They had a plant in Normal IL they just shut down in Nov. 2015 while they starve the US of a vehicle people want.

  11. Adam says:

    I have no idea why anyone is concerned about the lack of DC fast charge or high current AC charger.

    You plug this in overnight, do all or most of your commute on EV, then plug in again at night. Simple.

    Its got a tiny battery, why in the world would you hog public chargers?

  12. ct200h says:

    a quicker turn around at home. You drive 25 or so miles round trip on an errand and arrive home on empty. you plug in and at 6.6 to 7.4kw you are recharged in under 2 hours ready for your next trip to the soccer field or whatever. Maximize EV miles.
    with 3.3kw it will be 4 hours

    1. Nix says:

      Drive the kids to school, do some errands, return home and charge for four hours, with plenty of time before the kids get out of school. 15,000+ miles of EV driving each year with mid-day charging is possible.

      With PHEV’s, Your Mileage Will Vary more than any other vehicle. For every example of how it won’t work, there is another example of how it will work.

      The fact that everybody’s personal driving habits will produce different results in a PHEV doesn’t mean there is an inherent problem with the vehicle itself.