Nissan Teams With Eaton On Second-Life Battery System

1 year ago by Mark Kane 21

2016 Nissan LEAF battery

2016 Nissan LEAF battery

2016 Nissan LEAF battery

Happy New Marriage Between Nissan and Eaton

Nissan teams with Eaton on energy storage systems using EV batteries (for second-life applications after significant capacity fade – so we imagine a lot of 2011/2012 LEAF packs).

Nissan is gearing up for upcoming volume battery reuse in the future and Eaton, as power management specialists, will develop ESS for various applications.

No specs or timeframe was announced, but they will begin with UPS combined with solar PV.

“Nissan and Eaton will combine their respective expertise in lithium-ion batteries and power electronics respectively, to bring reliable and cost-competitive energy storage and control technologies to the market.

The partnership will focus on creating commercially viable energy storage and control centres that will provide a sustainable ‘second life’ for Nissan’s lithium-ion batteries after their automotive usage. With more than 70 years of electric vehicle heritage and over 50 years of experience in power electronics, Nissan and Eaton are primed to take on the challenge.

The first module to be deployed will combine second-life LEAF batteries with Eaton’s uninterruptable power supply (UPS) technology and solar PV to create a stand-alone energy storage and control package that will allow customers to manage energy consumption and supply, whilst connected to, or independent of, the grid.

The storage and control module will offer an affordable, long-term method for harnessing clean energy, further facilitating the deployment of renewable energy and increased grid stability and efficiency.”

Robert Lujan, Electric Vehicle Director, Nissan Global said:

“The batteries as power storage units far outlast the typical life of a car. In order to bring a commercially viable solution to the market, it requires not only the battery expertise of Nissan, but also the experience in power management, control and integration that Eaton offers. This partnership is the first step in delivering a real world system for our customers in the near future.”

“Having produced our own batteries, at our leading manufacturing sites worldwide, for many years; we will now be able to expand the life of our automotive batteries therefore reducing the need to use additional resources from the planet to produce new batteries”

Cyrille Brisson, Vice President Marketing, Eaton Electrical EMEA said:

“These systems will really facilitate the wider adoption and deployment of renewable generation; giving people greater control over their energy supply and consumption.

“The wide-ranging benefits of such a unit include continuity of supply, increased grid stability and efficiency, avoidance of peak energy tariffs and a reduction in the reliance on expensive fuels like diesel to compensate for no-grid or poor-grid situations.”

2016 Nissan LEAF battery

Energy Storage Systems Via Old Nissan LEAF Batteries

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21 responses to "Nissan Teams With Eaton On Second-Life Battery System"

  1. Djoni says:

    Just obvious!
    Let me remember a few years back, what all those expert were predicting on battery being useless resource wasted at warp speed!

    Hum, forget it, I bet now they tell everybody they knew that was coming from the start.

    Conclusion: Dont let pessimist ruin your life!

    1. Just_Chris says:

      Errrr.. No, most experts always had an eye on recycling and reusing ev batteries, including nissan. Clearly there were / are some who still feel that ev manufacture may lead to some resources becoming more expensive but I don’t think 2nd life or recycling are new or radical ideas.

      That said good to see things moving on.

    2. SparkEV says:

      I suspect this will this increase prices for used Leaf batteries for use in older Leaf due to reduced supply. Then it’s more likely Leaf with dead battery will be junked rather than have the batteries replaced and driven for more miles. 8 year anniversary is coming soon, the end of warranty period.

      1. Brian says:

        It’s probably true that most Gen I Leafs will be junked rather than have their lives extended with new batteries. It is very unfortunate, but I don’t think it will become the long term trend. It’s hard to justify spending several thousand dollars to end up with a car with 40% the range of a new (200-mile) EV. Most will simply upgrade the entire car. But I think that once 200 miles is the norm, it will be easier to convince people to replace the battery, even if 300 mile EVs are available new.

        My Leaf will serve me well into the future. At the same time, I long for a longer range EV that I can take out of town. I suspect there are many others like me for whom a 24kWh Leaf “works” as one of multiple cars, yet a 60kWh EV would obviously work better. So I’m really torn. At least I have a year or two more to ponder the question.

        1. Mister G says:

          My lease ended on 2012 Leaf SL on December 16…we sure miss it but I’m having a difficult time negotiating 2016 leaf lease.

          1. SparkEV says:

            I suspect there’s high demand for 2016 Leaf with 107 miles range, so you probably can’t get good deals now. But if you can wait a year after Bolt comes out, you could get good deals on Leaf. 🙂

            1. Brian says:

              A year after Bolt comes out, Leaf will be available with a 60kWh battery. In fact, it will most likely lag the Bolt only 3-6 months.

              Or are you say wait a year from now, after the Bolt comes out? Re-reading your comment, I’m going to assume that’s what you meant rather than my first impression. Yes, in December 2016, Nissan will have to offer some incredible deals to keep moving a Leaf with a mere 30kWh battery.

              1. SJC says:

                Unless there is a battery advancement, a 60 kWh battery would weight about 1500 pounds. Not much left for passengers and luggage.

          2. Dr. Miguelito Loveless says:

            Gee, I wonder if I got your car. 😉

            I bought a used 2012 SL a year ago.

        2. SparkEV says:

          Older cars are typically driven by poor people. I don’t know if they are likely to opt for battery replacement (big upfront expense) compared to buying another used car (most likely gas car) for similar or lower price and fiananced. Considering $100/kWh and 200 miles range EV may need 50kWh battery, $5000 + $1000 labor repair bill for 8 year or older car is pretty high when used gas cars cost less.

          More likely to be repaired is cheaper (aka smaller) battery EV and/or that has some redeeming features. SparkEV fits that well with its 0-60 time quicker than any car under $20K. But I don’t know if there’s anything “special” about Leaf other than that it’s EV. And if upcoming Bolt/3 don’t perform, they’ll be in the same boat as Leaf: to junk yard.

          1. Brian says:

            True that most people who are faced with a $6000 repair bill on an 8-10 year old car will just junk it. For an ICE, this might be a transmission overhaul. Of course with an ICE, you never know what will go next or when. With a BEV, in theory, that new battery should make the car much closer to like-new condition.

            The fact that the Spark is quick is certainly a selling point to, say, a high school student who might be buying an 8-year-old used EV. The fact that it sells new for under $20k is irrelevant at that point. In fact, an 8-year-old Spark EV might be worth MORE than an 8-year-old Leaf.

            1. BraveLilToaster says:

              “With a BEV, in theory, that new battery should make the car much closer to like-new condition.”

              Minus the CV joints, the electronic door locks, window motors, the easily broken LCD in the console, wheel bearings, brakes, power steering pump, and windshield wiper motors, yeah, I suppose you might be right.

              Replacing the battery would more than likely just be a fun project and an exercise in just how long you can make the car go, than it would be a viable way to keep a beater on the road. Unless someone can make those replacement batteries a lot cheaper in the future.

              Upgrading to 30 or even (speculatively) 60 kWh on the other hand, would definitely be worth your time and money to a lot of people.

              1. Brian says:

                If all of that stuff is failing after 8 years, you have a very poorly designed car. Most cars last twice that long, and that’s up here in the snow belt. Normally it’s about 15 years or so before rust gets the better of the car. Much more likely to fail in 8 years are timing belts, alternators, and catalytic converters.

            2. jerryd says:

              Brian, you do know batteries can be repaired don’t you?
              No need to replace with new either, just buy a good used one.

      2. SJC says:

        I emailed Nissan asking if they would sell the packs returned for replacement, they allow a $1000 credit. Nissan not only said no, they said don’t even think about it…ever.

  2. sveno says:

    Eaton? I believe this will be for industrial solutions. I don’t think we’ll have a SMB UPS solution based off used batteries.

    I am however dreaming of a UPS with replaceable 18650s in it. With balance charging of course so you can mix and match.

  3. jerryd says:

    One little problem with this is Nissan, GM, Tesla doesn’t own the battery packs except the few that are replaced under
    warranty.
    So just where are they going to get them?
    Only the earliest Leaf packs had a short life.
    Later Leaf and others like the Volt, Tesla have shown little degrading of capacity looking like 15-20 yrs before down enough to need replacing.
    And most packs can just be repaired as normally just a 1 or a couple cells go bad. Replace them and the pack becomes good again.
    As they are doing with Prius, other battery packs as they come out of warranty.
    That said an electronic set, inverter, etc that converts them to home use could be very good for people that own them.
    I have a Volt pack that could be done that way but I’d rather use in in my lightweight EV’s.
    And I can guaranty most of the available packs for a while will go to rebattery older lead battery and custom EV’s from
    EV crashes.
    Though I’d be interested in a reasonably priced conversion to home power units kits saving me the hassle of doing my own.

    1. mike w says:

      That is why Eaton is teaming up with Nissan. Nissans batteries are junk. There should be an abundant supply of them in the net few years.

    2. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      It’ll take time to develop the products, so they need to hook up now.

      I think you’d see EOL battery re-use in larger, commercial systems, where they really benefit from demand-response and scale and redundancy could overcome the shorter cycle life.

  4. About time a big company started thinking about battery reuse. What will we do when they reach the end of their life, for example?

    1. Mister G says:

      Battery recycling will take care of them…I see a business opportunity.