Nissan Takes LEAF On L.A. To Palm Springs Road Trip To Prove It’s Possible – Video

3 years ago by Mark Kane 16

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Blink DC quick chargers along fuel pump

Blink DC quick chargers along fuel pump

Is it possible to take a 107-mile trip from L.A. to Palm Springs in a 84-mile rated Nissan LEAF?

This is the question posed by Tim N., who often travels this route.

Well, it’s possible, especially when using a quick charger in the middle of the journey as seen in the video.

Thanks to Nissan’s promotion, new LEAF owners will get EZ-Charge cards with 2-year free charging access, so some of the inevitable stops will be free.

We must however note that without Nissan’s promotion, in California, the latest price revision of Blink DC chargers is set $0.59 per kWh, which is almost $9 for 15 kWh or some 60 miles of charge.

“Watch as we take a road trip from L.A. to Palm Springs in a Nissan LEAF, all with a little help from a charging station and a cup of coffee.”

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16 responses to "Nissan Takes LEAF On L.A. To Palm Springs Road Trip To Prove It’s Possible – Video"

  1. ggpa says:

    “$0.59 per kWh” … let’s hope this rate allows them to _finally_ start maintaining their DC chargers that seem to fail a lot.

  2. ggpa says:

    I wonder why Nissan is not selling EZ-Charge to existing Leaf owners.

  3. Brian says:

    Is that picture of 6x CHAdeMOs a real picture or a photoshop? Is it possible that someone other than Tesla has figured out that we need to have multiple stalls at each charging location?!?

    1. io says:

      Yes, that picture got me excited for a sec, but sadly it doesn’t look like it’s real.

      @Mark Kane, could you please clarify in the caption? We can all see that there is a gas pump and Blink QCs, what would be interesting is whether this is more than just a rendering, if it’s intended to be built somewhere, etc… Thanks

      1. Mark Kane says:

        Just photoshop :(.

    2. Mark Kane says:

      Just photoshop :(.

  4. Ben says:

    Still ugly

  5. Martin says:

    60 miles for $9? My Venza AWD CUV vehicle can easliy drive that for $9 in fuel and is larger, no battery to replace eventually and no range anxiety. My Prius can go for less then $5, easy. I love electric cars but seriously charing that much for power is a rip off x 5. Charging $0.79 in Hawaii, with prices like that, forget EV’s getting widespread. Blink DC needs to figure out that overcharing will hurt them in the long run as will limit EV sales.

    1. Kevin says:

      From the consumer side, fast charging is not designed to be a direct replacement for gas stations, especially since most EVs are charged at home 95% of the time. They are there to extend range on those few occasions that you are driving beyond your EV’s range. Thus, an EV driver’s view of pricing for a single DC fast charge should take into account this broader context.

      From the charging provider’s perspective, getting rights at an easily accessible site, getting through permitting, purchasing equipment, getting required utility upgrades to support fast charging, doing the construction itself, and paying for demand charges are all significant costs. On the revenue side, you are looking at a market of ~1% of all autos which 95% of the time fuel at home.

      These are not businesses that are running away with windfall profits. I think they are all still figuring out how to survive and serve EV drivers most effectively.

    2. Brian says:

      I would gladly pay $0.59/kWh for a quick charge. Assuming the charger was convenient and dependable. Most of the time I charge at home, paying about $0.14/kWh.

      As for the businesses, there are plenty of other ways to make money on these quick chargers. Notice how the man was drinking coffee while the woman ate a donut? What do you think the markup is on that?!? It’s possible they spent more money on coffee and donuts than they spent on the quick charger.

  6. Stimpacker says:

    Good attempt at promoting EV’s especially the Leaf but overall it still shows how flawed the whole driving experience is.

    1) You gotta creep on the freeway.
    2) You gotta count on the only L3 station to be available and working when you get there.
    3) You gotta wait while charging.
    4) You gotta charge twice actually (once each way).
    5) You pay more for electricity than for gas.

    Every time I see these sort of stupid videos, it’s always some yuppie with tons of time to spare. Imagine doing the same with your family in the car. You wanna risk that charger being available? You wanna wait 30mins X2 for what is to be a day trip? You wanna pay $$$ for electricity (even free EZcharge card runs out after 2 years).

    This is coming from a Leaf owner. Love my Leaf but know its limitations. It’s a family-mover, not an adventure car.

    1. JRMW says:

      I agree with you.
      Every tool has its purpose. Long distance driving is not the LEAF’s purpose.

      you COULD use your Porsche Boxter to haul garbage to the dump… but it’s better to use another vehicle for that, and it’s rare that we really need to haul garbage to the dump. Thus, Porsche doesn’t bother trying to sell the Boxter’s garbage carrying abilities.

      Likewise: Most people only rarely take hundred mile trips. Thus I wouldn’t focus too much on that. That’s what an ICE or a Rex vehicle is for.

      Instead: give solutions so that people can use their EV to its fullest potential. Such as:
      1) Do like BMW, and allow EV owners to swap their EV for an ICE for the rare times they take road trips. This can be done quickly and relatively cheaply, and it’s good for the Manufacturers too because it gets people driving their other offerings. So why not let people swap their LEAF for a Versa for their long day trips.
      2) INCREASE THE RANGE!!! (most important). This will take time.

      in the end this problem will self resolve as the cars get more range. Thus I think manufacturers should really focus on longer range BEVs.

      Who wants to stop 30 minutes every 50-60 miles? I certainly don’t. But people WOULD be willing to stop 30 minutes every 150-200 miles.

      I was against PHEVs and Rex vehicles until I saw what BMW did. They took the Volt’s problem (only 40 miles AER) and increased to 72 miles AER.

      if we can continue this eventually we can have a situation where PHEVs and Rexs have 150-200 AER, and BEVs have 200-500 range.

      at that point they will, quite literally, take over the world.

  7. DonC says:

    This looks like fun. Maybe not. Seems fairly miserable.

    Also won’t work in a year or so. Because of battery degradation my Leaf gets about 55 miles. Down quite a bit from when I first got it.

    1. McKemie says:

      I was quite irritated to find that Nissan was so reluctant to fix their batteries. Apparently you have the same experience. It certainly appears to me that Nissan has “shot themselves in the foot” and I don’t understand why anyone would patronize them.

  8. JRMW says:

    Do like BMW, and allow EV owners to swap their EV for an ICE for the rare times they take road trips. This can be done quickly and relatively cheaply, and it’s good for the Manufacturers too because it gets people driving their other offerings. So why not let people swap their LEAF for a Versa for their long day trips.
    =====

    sorry to reply to myself, but imagine this commercial.

    “I’m a Minnesotan and electricity costs me less than 2 cents per kWh. It only costs about $1 to fill up my battery! I can drive 80 miles on that! In my regular car it costs me $11.50 for the same trip! That’s 10 TIMES more expensive

    But what about when I need to drive to Palm Springs? Simple, I just drive to my local Nissan Dealership which is on the way and swap my LEAF for a brand new car! I get to do this 20 days a year for free!
    And who really drives to Palm Springs more than that?!”

  9. Leptoquark says:

    I looked up the location (api.plugshare.com/view/location/15391) where they charged; it’s a 7-11 “Ree-Charge ‘N Go” (clever!) in San Bernadino. Odd that they didn’t clean up the Yazaki connector, which was filthy, before they shot the piece.

    I noticed that a couple of the Plugshare comments say it charges at 48 kW, but I thought the Blink DCQC units were 60 kW. It’s the eVgo/Nissan DCQC chargers that are 48 kW.