Nissan Says 42,700 LEAFs Sold Worldwide, Even More Committed To EVs (And Saving The World) In The Future

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Nissan Says They Are About To Implement "Countermeasures" To Remove Roadbloacks To Owning EVs

During Nissan’s second quarter update in Japan (video of which below),  Toshiyuki Shiga, who is Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer, and the man in charge of Nissan’s zero emission strategy, said the company has sold 42,700 LEAFs since the 73 mile, all-electric car went on sale almost two years ago.

Chief Operating Officer Toshiyuki Shiga Now Leading The Zero Emission Charge For Nissan.

The COO also took some time to discuss the progress of Nissan’s EV program, and how they see the future and the company’s mission to the greater good of mankind, and not just in the sales of automobiles (translated from Japanese):

“Sales volume of EV is slow—that is the media report that I read,  frankly speaking its (the report) disappointing. I am frustrated.  Nissan is becoming the leader in (the) zero emission area will help to contribute to solving the global warming and resource issues. 

Somewhere in the history of human beings, people will have to switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy.  And Nissan is assuming a risk to do it first.  We are not the first one (to make an EV), but as a mass volume EV maker, we (have) deployed electric vehicles globally for the first time.”   

The Nissan executive notes that there are many different situations around the world, and that can make it difficult to market electric vehicles in certain situations; but that Nissan wants to penetrate the worldwide market with zero emission vehicles now, and in so doing they are learning what it takes to sell them more efficiently in different areas.

“It will be two years next month since we launched (the LEAF), and through sales of (the LEAF) we are learning a lot of things.  For example, why customers hesitate to buy electric vehicles, and what are the issues they face after they buy them, and how they delight the customers once they get into an electric vehicle.”

Nissan LEAF Production Will Expand To Smyrna (TN), Next Month

Nissan says they understand the roadblocks to electric vehicle ownership more thoroughly now, and they they are taking a “new lineup of countermeasures” to remove them.

Some of these roadblocks may be on pricing, as Nissan is moving production for international sales away from Japan, and into the USA and the UK starting next month to remove currency pricing pressure from the car.  The company as well will be offering the LEAF in a more basic, cheaper version to expand the base of customers who potenetially can afford the car, as well as adding a high-end luxury offering through Infiniti (the LE) at the end of next year for people at the other end of the spectrum.

Mr. Shiga sums up the conference call by remarking:

“So sales of Nissan LEAF…people may have different opinions to say this is too slow or too fast.  We would like to penetrate the market more.  But, I am (now) responsible for the task team that is accelerating the sales of Ev.  So the entire company is united to promote the sales, and I am leading this.  So in that sense, please don’t forget that we have this passion and a sense of mission to work on EV, I hope you understand this, and look at our activities from this perspective.”

Contributor’s note:  Part of this story is making the rounds on the Internet saying Nissan/COO Shiga is “disappointed and frustrated” with LEAF sales, and was delivering a eulogy on EVs.  Not so.  Sadly, as the story is reprinted, few (if any) auto journalists actually took the time to listen to the webcast (about 150 views last time I checked), and have just copy and pasted a ‘Cliff Notes’ translation of the COO’s speech from someone who did listen to it (in this case TTAC).

Unfortunately, TTAC (which is a great outlet for general automotive news) got the inference wrong thanks to some choppy translating, and probably because they were skimming for nuggets to report at the event. (Update:  TTAC was at the conference).  It happens.  Nothing intentional on TTAC’s part.  At least they are digging for original content.  TTAC also said the Nissan COO’s talk had the “undertones of an eulogy on the electric vehicle,” which if you watch the video…he clearly does not.  If anything talking EVs is his most upbeat moment after 40 minutes of a ‘nails on the chalkboard’ discussion about China.

Below video:  Mr. Shiga, Nissan COO, talks about everything Nissan in a rather lengthy quarterly results conference call…but don’t worry, I have watched the whole painful ordeal, and can tell you that the part that is of interest in regards to plug-ins starts at the 41:40 mark.

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27 responses to "Nissan Says 42,700 LEAFs Sold Worldwide, Even More Committed To EVs (And Saving The World) In The Future"

  1. Kane says:

    42700 or 47200? I heard 42700.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Thats a pretty big transposition error in the story isn’t it? Fixed and thanks for pointing that out!

      1. Kane says:

        So 16,5k in US, 19k in JP and 2k for Norway. 5k left for others :P.

  2. BlindGuy says:

    Initially I was very excited about the 100 mile range Nissan Leaf. For some people the Leaf is working out great. The reality of a Leaf being our sole vehicle faded as we learned more about the battery warranty and the real world range of this EV. For people who live in hot climates or have mostly highway speeds for daily commuting; without the ability to charge during work, the Leaf may not be practical for being your sole vehicle. Configuring a more affordable base version is a move in the right direction. I think the battery issues could be improved by adding battery cooling and or a small range extender; like the I3 is supposed to offer. IMO people were dissolutioned by constantly hearing 100 mile range commercials and then getting more like 60 – 75 real world range when charging to the recommended 80%. Bottom-line: add a simple series generator until batteries x4 in capacity and save money by using a very basic driver information interface. People love EVs but they have to be practical in use and cost JMO.

  3. kdawg says:

    Has the Volt hit 30K worldwide yet?

    1. kdawg says:

      I guess I could have just pulled up the Wiki :\

      “32,972″ Volt/Ampera sales

      1. Jay Cole says:

        Technically, GM has sold about 29,150 “Volts” worldwide through October including Euro-zone…but I digress, (=

        Really splitting the hair, I would say GM was probably actually going to sell the “30,000th” Volt sometime today or tomorrow given their sell-thru rates.

    2. Stuart22 says:

      Take Japan sales out of the equation and the Volt handily beats the LEAF, if the breakdown by country is correct as per what somebody put in their comment. Why Jay didn’t include the breakdown in his article is something he ought to explain. Japan is a protected market heavily tilted toward Japanese products; it should surprise nobody that the LEAF’s numbers are impressive if the truth was known and considered. Put a bold-faced asterisk or simply omit Japan sales numbers with any comparisons are made with cars manufactured elsewhere.

      1. Jay Cole says:

        Hey Stuart,

        You know me, I love to dive ‘the numbers’ on a car, behind a car, or by one random metric…but we really weren’t shooting for any kind of camparison, or ‘value of sales’ on this one.

        We just felt it was an interesting conversation from Nissan’s COO about the ‘greater good’/future of EVs, along with a rare worldwide sales update on the LEAF.

        Generally, once a month we do spotlight one particular country then breakdown the plug-in sales and the outlook for that country. What they buy and don’t buy, etc. Last month was Canada:
        http://insideevs.com/places-not-united-states-plug-in-sales-in-canada-for-september/

        Will probably go euro-zone for this month, but some places are a little slow on the uptick reporting the registrations.

  4. ClarksonCote says:

    If Nissan would change the way they calculate remaining range, and linearize their battery bars, people would have much less range anxiety.

    In chatting with another Leaf owner, we were told that the vehicle can often go 20 miles after reaching the “Low Battery” warning. That seems ridiculous.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Thats very true there being a lot of range at the low end.

      On Monday, I was caught doing some extra errands, and was down to my last bar when I recycled the car back on. 18 miles to go. Made it home before the turtle, but I wasn’t booking it by any stretch.

      Ever since the K-Cars of the 80s that had a digital fuel meter that “actually” gave you the right number of miles remaining, that North Americans apparently couldn’t handle, there has been an expected ‘buffer’ zone at the buttom, for better or worse.

      It would be nice to have some kind of real world toggle for those of us who would like a linear estimate…or better yet a estimated available kWh remaining (nerd) button. (I think that sentiment would go for any plug-in vehicle owner)

      1. ClarksonCote says:

        Right on. I’m okay with their having a very conservative range estimate, but at least make the battery bars linear. 1 bar of battery on a Leaf at the empty end of the battery is not equal to one bar at the full end.

      2. Brian says:

        Trouble with the Leaf is that it has much less range than a K car to begin with. Most gas cars are advertised by fuel economy (or horsepower, etc), not range on a full tank. When you have just enough range for a busy day with commuting/shopping/bringing the kids to school/etc, knowing your remaining range is that much more important.

        I agree completely that the charge bars should disappear linearly. This constantly leads to concerns voiced at mynissanleaf.com by new owners. It only increases range anxiety, which stunts the potential to grow sales through word of mouth / happy customers.

  5. Brian says:

    This is great news! We always focus on North American sales, but worldwide is just as important to the success (and impact) of this vehicle.

    I hope their “new line of countermeasures” includes some kind of plan for L3 charging infrastructure. They have hinted before that they would soon release a CHAdeMO charger for only $10,000. This, combined with some kind of active roll out (maybe through dealerships or partnerships?) would do a lot to quell range anxiety. It may not enable true road trips (yet), like the Tesla Supercharger network plan, but it would certainly broaden the potential consumer base. It would also have a significant psychological effect on EVs in general.

  6. MrEnergyCzar says:

    There is no battery warranty based on range and age milestones, just verbal conjecture of what is typical backed up by nothing…. A Volt battery type warranty would be a start and they are gambling with no liquid cooling of the battery….negative press can cripple…

    MrEnergyCzar

  7. I sat in the meeting, first row. (In the screenshot, the unruly hair is mine. The video features great shots of my backside, rightmost guy, wrinkled blue shirt. I always have that seat.) In my ear was the simultaneous translation, which I recorded at the same time. You can’t blame “choppy translating” on this one. Nissan has a multinational management and employs the finest translators in the business. The translators are taught to translate everything EXACTLY as it was said, leave unfinished sentences unfinished, and when the Japanese is choppy, there will be choppy English. The segment in question was translated by Yuki Morimoto, Carlos Ghosn’s personal translator. Nobody does it better. (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/07/her-masters-voice-carlos-ghosns-japanese-alter-ego)

    I looked Shiga-san in the eye when he said it. The Leaf question which Watanabe-san of Jiji softballed to Shiga appeared to have been less than spontaneous. Shiga-san was prepared. He referred to a media report that said EV sales are slow, and did it one better: “Frankly speaking it’s disappointing. I am frustrated.” It was a well-planned soundbite for effect. To maximize the effect, it was the last question of the day.

    Shiga did not say that the newspaper report was disappointing and that the COO of Nissan is frustrated by a journalist, as Insideevs alleges with a little sleight of hands and parentheses. No executive of a large company would stand in front of a room full of reporters, only to publicly dress down the writer of a lone article. It would be like spitting into a pack of hungry wolves, and honestly, it would be beneath a COO.

    Forget the attempt on spin. Shiga-san clearly is disappointed and frustrated by the slow sales volume of the Leaf, and he is not the only one in the company. It is interesting to note that Andy Palmer of Nissan had also spoken about slow Leaf sales while announcing an expansion of the EV range. Shiga-san did something similar on Tuesday: He said he was disappointed and frustrated by the sales numbers, but he will also move heaven and hell to get the sales up. Nissan has for quite some while pushed the line that EVs are just one technology out of several with a future.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Hey Bertel,

      I think my article expresses my admiration for your work, and I am glad you where there at the meeting and paying close attention (there is not enough people doing ‘the work’)…but that doesn’t change what he said, or his attitude when delivering it.

      What was on the video of the press conference that we hosted here was the same as what you witnessed live. An option of viewing that you didn’t give your readers, as well as not giving them the whole quote, and in context.

      But anyone can hit play and decide for themselves.

      I didn’t see or hear the undertones of a eulogy there, and I too am used to listening to Ms. Morimoto at these events. I don’t feel he was (or would) dressing down a lone reporter, anymore than he would dress down his own EV.

      Mr. Shiga didnt say “sales are slow I am frustrated”, he said “sales are slow is what i read from the media, i am frustrated and disappointed” Not sure why else he would he throw that extra bit in? If he was saying it was slow and he was disappointed, why through in the jab? Thats my take fwiw.

      I figure you found my article from a trackback I got from hybridcars (part of your net-family), and a comment there from one of our readers, so I thought maybe I would see if you repeated your sentiments there, but it seems they decided (at least as of now) of pulling your story down:

      http://www.hybridcars.com/news/nissans-coo-airs-frustration-over-slow-ev-sales-59229.html

      Again, we disagree, but I thank you for taking the time to defend your work.

      I’m not thrilled with your assertion that we did “a little sleight of hands and parentheses” on the quote. Its a translation, we did the best we could with it, and we also put the orginal video in the story. If you want to take issue with that, I will note we didn’t jam two differnt parts of the speech into one quote to make it sound like those sentiments were made in the same breath as yourselves:

      Your quote: “Somewhere in the history of mankind, people will have to switch from fossil fuels to renewable energy, and Nissan is assuming the risk to do it now. We were the first volume maker deploy EVs globally. Please don’t forget that we have this passion and a sense of mission.”

      That last sentence came a couple minutes after the first. I personally really don’t have a big problem with either quote. Just talking about glasses houses here. I made an honest attempt at a translation to readable english.

      In the end, I think we are both guys who like to do our homework and to get it right, and we defend our work vigorously when we believe we are right. Thankfully, we do get a referee to call this one, (= I sent off a link to the Nissan media rep this morning to both our stories. We can let them decide what their COO said/meant. I’ll post his answer when it comes back.

  8. scottf200 says:

    Bertel and Jay, thank you for the articles and for the civil exchange. It all helps the us understand the complexities of this early technology curve.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Thanks Scott. I think both Bertel and myself can keep our disagreements on an even keel. Mr. Schmitt is actually in my ‘top 5′ of auto journalists I respect, so I’m not thrilled to be on opposite sides on this one.

      No big deal. It happens. On to the next story, (=

  9. Jay Cole says:

    Got an official response from Nissan…my thanks to Travis:

    “Hey, Jay.

    I’m told by our folks at HQ that their interpretation matched yours—that he was commenting that it is frustrating to read reports of slow sales and what seems to be a lack of appreciation for the role that Nissan is playing in pushing the EV agenda and zero emissions.”

    Travis PARMAN
    Director, Corporate Communications
    NISSAN AMERICAS

  10. So in a somewhat Clintonesque “it depends what the definition of ‘it’ is”-type discussion, we ask for biblical exegesis, only to receive a sibylline second-hand interpretation.

    Folks, this was not a long dead oracle talking. This is no lawyerly parsing of pronouns. We are at the half year results press conference. The COO sits in front of Reuters, Dow Jones, the Nikkei, Bloomberg. What he says can hit the wires before he even finishes the sentence. When he gets questions, he is expected to answer unambiguously, because every word can move markets. A hard hitting results press conference is no place for opaque statements, and none are expected.

    So Watanabe-san of Jiji asks: “Nissan Leaf sales volume seems to be struggling. In order to make a breakthrough, are there any counter-measures that you have in mind? And will there be any changes in local production in the U.S. and UK going forward?”

    In the room, the frame of reference is set for sales and production volumes. That four letter word “jobs” is lurking.

    Shiga-san says it’s a good question, and he is glad that it was asked, then states, according to the record: “The sales volume of EV is slow – that’s the media report that I read. Frankly speaking, it’s disappointing and I am frustrated.”

    Anybody with a healthy mind will hear that Shiga answered a sales volume question, and that he is disappointed by said sales volume, which we all know is not what it used to be, and definitely not as planned. We will hear that Shiga is frustrated that the metal is not being moved as budgeted – as he should, being the COO, and that he wants action. In usually very polite Japan, “I am disappointed” coming from the boss would be a strong reprimand.

    To go doubly sure, I rounded up the Japanese original soundtrack and pressed my cross-cultural adviser Frau Schmitto-san into service for this ongoing discussion. She spoke Japanese since she was a baby, but she is no professional translator. She says the sentence in question goes like this:

    “Sales of EVs are a bit down, I read that in the news. Honestly, I am sorry to hear that and I am frustrated.” She swears to sundry Shinto deieties that Shiga is sad about the sales, not about a news reporter. Frau Schmitto-san says “zannen ni omoimasu” is somewhere between “sad” and “sorry”, but has no connotations of apologies. However, if Carlos Ghosn’s personal translator says it’s “disappointing,” then we bow, yield to professional expertise and Nissan’s official translation.

    With the question framed like this, with Shiga’s answer going on to outline what Shiga wants to do to prop up sales, and having sought counsel, I apply Occam’s razor and declare that Shiga is fed up with the slow sales of the Leaf, and that he wants action. Those who have their selective perception tuned to different frequencies will disagree.

    The question about the planned Leaf production in the U.S. and UK went unanswered by Shiga, by the way.

    Nobody at Nissan asked me to correct my story, and we had face-to-face meetings at two occasions since Tuesday. The matter did not come up.

    If Shiga really would have been disappointed and frustrated by a false report, Shiga would have continued: “These allegations are false. In the contrary, sales of the Leaf have …” Wisely,it did not come to that.

    For the record, I currently live 30 minutes away from Nissan’s Yokohama world headquarters, and the folks at Nissan know where I live. Again for the record, at close of business on this Tokyo Friday, I still am in possession of all 10 fingers, and they remain attached to my hands. For tomorrow, I was asked to show up at a test track. If I get run over …

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Its over.

      You have an opinion still. No harm in that. Such is life, we move on.

    2. Stuart22 says:

      >>The question about the planned Leaf production in the U.S. and UK went unanswered by Shiga, by the way.<<

      Reading between the lines, one could sense a split that exists within Nissan with regard to future plans with the LEAF and EVs. Could Ghosn and his hell-bent push for world conquest soon be history? Will LEAF production in the USA proceed or will there be a last minute postponement until further notice?

      Most major auto manufacturers appear to be going the extended range plug-in EV route, while Nissan has been full steam ahead with the battery-only LEAF. It's easy to guess that within Nissan there are some who are taking notice, who are studying sales, and who might feel their current efforts with the LEAF is going down the wrong path.

      If they are disappointed in sales, then they must have some point in mind where things come to a halt. Question is – how close are they to that point?

      1. Stuart22 says:

        >> Will LEAF production in the USA proceed or will there be a last minute postponement until further notice? <<

        Related to that question……Plugincars.com just reported that Nissan has cancelled their grand opening of the Smyrna battery plant.

        Just what is going on….

        1. Jay Cole says:

          Hey Stuart,

          Seen the media notice on that. We will have a story on that at some point this weekend. Its still a little obtuse as to what is going on at the moment…not sure yet.

          I’m trying to run down some comment from the plant and/or update on the more important bits (like status/confirmation of job 1 for next month).

          Thanks for the heads up though. I appreciate that.

          1. Jay Cole says:

            Update: Heard back from Nissan. Looks like it is a non-story. The various execs/personalities that were to be there couldn’t all get there heads together.

            Despite the original story about saying there was nothing planned to re-schedule, Nissan is re-jigging it and told me they will send me details on the new scheduling this coming week. They also confirmed the LEAF launch was on track and they were currently producing lithium batteries out of there in anticipation of start of production now.