Nissan Revealed The Fuel Station Of The Future Concept (w/video)

2 years ago by Mark Kane 37

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future - wireless charging

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future – wireless charging

The Fuel Station of the Future concept developed by Nissan and international architect Foster + Partners was recently revealed in Geneva, as it was announced earlier in late 2015.

The vision seems to make the traditional model of fuel stations upside down.

The main component is wireless charging bays installed along the street – a feature that would also be good for appartments dwellers and for offices. These future EVs could then even autonomously repark themselves when recharged to not block the bays.

The concept includes a V2G component that enables some powering of buildings during the day, allowing for better use of renewable electricity.

The third part are special automatic parking-charging systems.

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

“Incorporating a range of pioneering Nissan technologies, the vision hints at how vehicle-to-grid, battery storage, wireless charging, autonomous drive technology and over-the-air connectivity could combine to revolutionise how energy is used and distributed across Europe’s major cities.”

“The need for a sustainable and innovative refuelling network is becoming vital as the market shifts toward alternative sources like electric power.

Today, more than half (54%) of the world’s population lives in cities and by 2050, seven out of every 10 people will live in urban areas[i], so it is imperative that the infrastructure exists to support this growth.

Nissan is currently trialing an innovative vehicle-to-grid system in Europe which, when coupled with advances in its second-life batteries, will allow drivers to operate as individual ‘energy hubs’ able to store, use or return clean energy to the grid.

It is predicted that by 2050, almost all global energy needs can be met with renewable energy sources[ii].

Nissan is the leader in zero emission technology, and pioneered the commercial electric vehicle market in 2010. The Nissan LEAF – the first mass-market, pure EV launched globally – continues to be the best-selling EV in history.”

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Paul Willcox, Chairman, Nissan Europe, said:

“Technology holds many of the answers for the challenges we face in our cities today. However, the true power comes when those technologies are integrated with each other and the world around us.

“We’ve been at the forefront of zero emission technology since 2010, but our vision does not stop there – we believe that the future of transportation is reliant on both infrastructure and the environment. We’re looking for real, workable solutions that go beyond the product.”

David Nelson, Co-Head of Design, Foster + Partners, added:

“Integrating zero emission technologies into the built environment is vital in creating smarter, more sustainable cities. That commitment must extend far beyond the car – it must sit at the heart of everything we do.”

The big missing part here seems to be DC fast charging for long-distance travel, which we believe needs to stay more conventional.

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future - wireless charging

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future – wireless charging

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

Nissan Fuel Station of the Future

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37 responses to "Nissan Revealed The Fuel Station Of The Future Concept (w/video)"

  1. Rebel44 says:

    Top picture looks like something from GTA 2 🙂

    IMO, due to increased losses (so higher power usage and higher cost) wireless charging wont be adopted on large scale.

    1. Orygun EV driver says:

      For autonomous parking, it’s either wireless or something like the Tesla “Probe”. With the differing locations and mechanisms associated with J1722 (doors & latches, etc) wireless is the best option.

      1. Big Solar says:

        or give someone a job doing it by hand

    2. Julien Gélinas says:

      Exactly what I thought! It’s like GTA2 HD.

    3. Djoni says:

      Wireless charging does not permit V2G.
      Case close.

      1. jdbob says:

        It could be. In a one-way wireless charging system the transmitter is on the pavement and the receiver is on the bottom of the car. A two-way system could put both units (a transceiver) in both locations so power could go either way.

        That said, seems unlikely.

      2. TomArt says:

        That statement makes absolutely no sense. You might as well say that regenerative braking is physically impossible.

        With the circuitry in place, an electric drive motor goes from turning the axle, propelling the car, to charging the battery, thus slowing the car down, in a fraction of a second. There is no physical nor technological nor practical limit to having wireless charging apparatus be able to reverse power flow just as quickly.

        1. Djoni says:

          O.K. what about not being done yet anywhere and not being even research.
          Yes it is possible, after all it’s just some resonating frequency coil, but you need to add more hardware on the car and this would drive the cost overboard.
          You can make a brick fly, you just have to stick the right motor to it.
          But it won’t be practical, never mind economical.

    4. scott franco says:

      “IMO, due to increased losses (so higher power usage and higher cost) wireless charging wont be adopted on large scale.”

      Then you should throw away all your electronic appliances and wall warts. They all use transformers to couple to the AC power line. The same (inductive) principle that wireless charging works on.

      Alternatively, you could read a book and stop saying stupid things.

      1. Nick says:

        Most wall warts are high frequency switching supplies these days. Quite different.

        Obviously a tiny 10 watt supply isn’t very instructive when considering multikilowatt EV charging.

        Those in glass houses and all that. 😉

      2. DaveinOlyWA says:

        other than making yourself look stupid; you might want to investigate the efficiency of those wall transformers. most are pretty sad.

        sorry for the personal attack, but to make sure my message got its point across, I used your method of communication

  2. Alex says:

    With wirless charging and V2G Leaf2 could flatten Bolt. Using old LEaf batteries as storage is simply the future. Hope Nissan will offer 12 kWh packs for 4000$, they could take back packs with 70% and resale them making money. Some guys build their one 24 kWh storage with batteries from accident Leafs, just for around 2500$, crazy price.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Why in the world would any EV owner let the local electric utility cycle his car’s battery pack, and thus age it faster?

      Even if any of them would be so foolish, I fail to see how that would make the Leaf (or any other BEV) more competitive against a compelling PHEV like the Volt. In fact, rather the reverse if the BEV has its battery pack worn down faster but the PHEV doesn’t.

      1. John says:

        I think this scenario involves a future state where batteries are more robust, we are more dependent on fluctuating renewable energy sources, and the cost of peak electricity has a value much higher than a partial cycle on a battery. At that point, it’s all economics.

        Who would want to pay dollars for power, when they could take a few pennies of “life” out of their battery. It all comes out in the end.

  3. Vexar says:

    Wow, what a great way to kill the lifespan of your car battery: discharge it for home, office, or hospital use. “Oh yeah, my heating up here in a cold climate is 100% electric. In fact, it runs off my car battery.” This is right up there with putting a road over the top of crystaline solar cells.

    1. Rich says:

      Agreed, V2G isn’t practical with the current generation of batteries. They will either have to decrease battery degradation by an order of magnitude or decreases battery pack costs by an order of magnitude.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        It will never make any economic sense (from the viewpoint of a cost/benefit analysis) for the local utility to pay an EV owner for using his car’s battery for grid storage on a regular basis. If it makes sense for the utility to pay an EV owner to cycle his battery, thus wearing it out faster, then it makes more sense for the utility to buy its own battery packs for stationary storage, paying less per kWh.

        The only way the utility would get an advantage is if they’re paying the EV owner less than a fair market price for wearing out his battery pack.

        The only way this would make sense is if the V2G capability is used only occasionally, as an emergency backup. In that case, there might be an economic case for the utility to pay the EV owner a high per-use fee, so the utility doesn’t have to buy storage it will rarely need to use.

        However, as Djoni pointed out upstream, it makes no sense to build a wireless charging system to allow two-way charging. Every charging receiver would also have to be a transmitter, and vice versa, for this to be possible. That would make the system more expensive than it needs to be.

        Altho one could argue that an EV owner might pay more for the ability of his car to do reverse wireless charging, so his car could power his home in the case of a power outage, it seems unlikely that whoever pays to install wireless chargers on a public street or in a parking lot would pay more to enable something that would be so rarely used.

        1. John says:

          One could also present the scenario where an employer offers free workplace charging, in exchange for occasional, limited access to your vehicle battery for load leveling.

          The company would not have to maintain their own batteries, and could potentially save substantially on their energy costs.

  4. Three Electrics says:

    If the cars are autonomous, they could just drive to “central charging” and return when finished. Much easier, and cheaper, than tearing up every street in the city.

    1. 🙂

      Regional charging station would also decouple the issue of parking and charging … related to high-value land use.

      Not to mention would would with existing buildings & streets, not requiring upgraded, or new construction.

    2. Ocean Railroader says:

      Untended self driving cars are going to make stealing a car so much more easier. In the old days you had to get a crow bar and a screw driver. Now you point and click and the car comes right up to you for you to ransack. Life is so much more easier now a days back in the old days when they had metal hand turn locks on doors and cars.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        If the car is wirelessly connected, which it would have to be to enable fully autonomous driving, then the owner or the police could locate it at any time with ridiculous ease.

        Of course, that wouldn’t make stealing autonomous cars impossible; merely more difficult. The thief would have to be able to give the car a false identity to prevent it from being located via GPS.

        1. David M says:

          “Of course, that wouldn’t make stealing autonomous cars impossible;” What if you can’t drive the autonomous car (No steering wheel)?

  5. cleanworldnow says:

    Looks they copied http://www.powertreeservices.com

  6. Michael Will says:

    But what it driving a person was just a side effect. What if you did not own the vehicle but it would be available anytime like über and when not driving people it will function as a receiver and giver of energy, drive to a charging station, when fully charged drive and park at a building that needs more power as a power building block. It can fulfill energy, people and object transportation needs. It will never sit idle uselessly, just moving to where it is useful. Patent pending 🙂

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      We already have such cars; they are called “taxis”. I think anyone suggesting that autonomous cars will make personal car ownership obsolete, isn’t thinking the scenario through.

      The autonomous taxi fleet (hereafter ATF) owner, to maximize his investment in cars, will want each of them to be in use as much as possible. That means minimizing the “down time” between dropping off one passenger and picking up another. The best chance of being able to do that is where population density is high… which means only in areas of dense urban population, where taxi services are already ubiquitous… for precisely the same economic reasons.

      Those who live in less dense areas, suburban or rural areas ill served by taxi services, will likewise be ill served by ATFs. It’s hard to get a taxi to come out and pick you up in the suburbs. Wait times are typically hours. Nobody who needs reliable transportation, or commutes to work, could possibly live with such a restriction.

      Those who commute to work, if they depended on an ATF for transportation, would have to contract with the ATF to pick him up twice a day at an appointed time; once at home and once at work. Now, how would this make any sense? If the ATF has to have a car reserved for the commuter’s use, then the ATF owner would have to charge the commuter a higher fee than it would cost the commuter to own his own car.

      Bottom line: This scenario is most analogous to a limousine service, where someone can contract to have a car pick him up at a pre-arranged time and place, and drive him wherever he wants. Anybody who thinks renting a limousine is cheaper than owning your own car… well, let’s just say you need to think again.

  7. Priusmaniac says:

    Cats playing around the obvious solution and not seeing it. Is ground secured contact conductive charging so difficult to figure out?

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      The problem of ensuring the contacts remain clean is decidedly non-trivial. In fact, that’s already a problem at Supercharger stations, and those don’t have to deal with the dirt, mud, and other gunk on the street or on the bottom of a car. Of course, such contacts would be protected by covers, but the action of opening and closing the covers would cause dirt, mud and gunk to work their way in.

      Wireless charging also offers the advantage of not requiring millimeter precision in parking the car exactly over the charging plug.

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        Actually the contact don’t need to be covered, they only need to be made in a corrosion resistant material and the constant scrub from the cars coming and going from them will be enough to keep them clean just like the earth scrubbing keeps a steel plough shining. Having the contacts on top of a small bump will also keep them away from water and most dirt.
        They also don’t need a millimetric alignment since they can be as large as a hand palm and separated by a foot between them.
        Not only is this simpler, 100% efficient and cheaper but instead of allowing only low to medium power charging it would also allow very high power charging without human handling required and no need for robotics as well. Cheap, efficient, high power, 400 V 135 KW Supercharge or even 1600 V 500 KW Megacharge capability, what else to wish?

  8. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    It’s. Not. Fuel.

    EVs are different. In many ways, EVs are better, and improving every year in ways gasmobiles never can and never will. Let’s stop pretending EVs are a kind of gasmobile that use a special type of fuel.

    1. TomArt says:

      Worthwhile point.

  9. Michael says:

    Sounds good. Let’s go. There are some wonderful designs out there for “Solar Trees” and for Solar Parking Lot Structures. Let’s do it.

    1. TomArt says:

      Hear, hear!!

  10. ydnas7 says:

    big picture is that there is no need for DC charging when car range is long enough.

    thats like arguing over beta/vhs/DVD in a world of streaming and downloaded media.

    how much range is enough, my guess is a days driving of about 600 miles / 1000km for USA/Aus
    but only about half that for Japan/UK etc
    300 miles / 500 km

    most of the LEAF2 with 60kWh may make heavy use of highway Chademo in USA, but in UK, perhaps never needed by 95% of the LEAF2 buyers – never needed.

    1. Brandon says:

      There are definitely two different views regarding the importance of fast charging. Quoting from The Fastned Freedom Plan:

      “Some say the solution is ubiquitous AC charging infrastructure at practically all parking spaces. We think this is not an affordable solution at scale. In a best case scenario, a slow charging point can charge two cars a day. With millions of cars on the road we will therefore need millions of public charging points. At a cost of thousands of euros per public AC charging point, this seems like an expensive way to boost charging infrastructure.”

      I would have the view that fast DC charging is going to be the best option in the future compared to Level 2 charging even tho there will be 200 mile BEVs. It’s true that fast charging is only needed for about 5% or less of driving which may be 4-10 times a year, but it will be the necessary ingredient for long distance travel and convenience with the millions of EVs on the road in the future.
      Public AC charging is great to have, but I don’t believe it can be the reliable place to get a charge in the same way that future DCFC stations will be able to serve.

      Here’s the link to the whole Fastned article:

      http://fastned.nl/nl/blog/post/the-fastned-freedom-plan

    2. TomArt says:

      No, not really. First of all, it’s neither smart nor safe to drive that long continuously (autonomous or not). Second, the commercial technology for electric-based energy storage of that magnitude is at least one, possibly two human generations away (as opposed to technological generations, which are sometimes only a few years).

  11. Mister G says:

    WOW great ideas for a cleaner greener planet, however if Republicans control white house they will poo-poo all of it and continue to drill baby drill.