Nissan LEAF-To-Home Prepped For Commercialization In U.S., Will Be Nissan’s Primary Focus At 2017 NAIAS

8 months ago by Eric Loveday 57

Nissan LEAF V2g

Nissan LEAF V2g

The much-anticipated 200-plus mile Nissan LEAF may or may not be announced/displayed at the upcoming 2017 NAIAS, as Nissan as decided to stay mum on any upgrades for the LEAF until the very last minute.

Nissan's livestream will introduce "exciting new vehicles"...

Nissan’s livestream will “unveil exciting vehicles”

(Of interest: Check Nissan’s current livestream disclaimer for the event (via Willem de Vries) to the right noting the company is “…set to unveil exciting vehicles…)

But we do know for certain that Nissan will heavily focus on promoting its LEAF-To-Home in Detroit following the scheduled speech by Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn on January 9 at 3 PM EST.

In fact, Nissan’s entire presser on the 2017 North American International Auto Show’s AutoMobili-D exposition (an exposition at the show focused on the “rapidly evolving global automotive and mobility landscape”) doesn’t once mention the new LEAF, but LEAF-To-Home is discussed throughout.

The major takeaways from the press release is that Nissan is working hard to commercialize this LEAF-To-Home system in the U.S. Nissan states:

“Nissan is heavily focused on preparing for “LEAF-to-Home” commercialization in the U.S., similar to what is available on the market in Japan today. In 2012, Nissan introduced this system in Japan, allowing drivers to supply a house with the energy stored in a Nissan LEAF battery. By charging the vehicle at night when electricity is cheaper and powering a household during the day, the system assists in alleviating power consumption during peak periods when demand is highest and most expensive. It can also be used as a backup power supply for blackouts and emergencies. Today about 4,000 households in Japan are utilizing their EVs to manage home energy use, and hundreds of EVs are powering buildings in Japan and Europe.”

To demonstrate the system, Nissan will feature a LEAF powering a smoothie maker at NAIAS. Below is video of a LEAF powering a concert:

There’s still a chance that Ghosn will discuss the next-gen LEAF and we’re hopeful that he does, but it seems the primary topics of discussion at NAIAS will be LEAF-To Home and the previously mentioned  “Seamless Autonomous Mobility” and “Intelligent Mobility” that he touched upon at CES:

  • Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. Chief Executive Officer Carlos Ghosn to give AutoMobili-D keynote address on “Autonomous, Electric and Connected – A Talk on Current and Future Mobility”
  • Mr. Ghosn, fresh off his keynote address at the 2017 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, will discuss current and future mobility trends – including Nissan’s vision for the future called Nissan Intelligent Mobility.

Full press blast below:

Nissan Intelligent Mobility LEAF Debuts

Nissan Intelligent Mobility LEAF Debuts

Nissan takes major role at 2017 North American International Auto Show’s AutoMobili-D exposition

  • AutoMobili-D exposition, focused on the rapidly evolving global automotive and mobility landscape, runs in conjunction with the 2017 North American International Auto Show and will feature more than 100 companies
  • Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. Chief Executive Officer Carlos Ghosn to give AutoMobili-D keynote address on “Autonomous, Electric and Connected – A Talk on Current and Future Mobility”
  • Nissan LEAF provides real world example of LEAF-to-Home technology, offering guests refreshments made with power sourced entirely from world’s best-selling electric vehicle
    LEAF owners across the globe have travelled a landmark 1.8 billion miles, saving 1.1 billion pounds of CO2 emissions1

DETROIT – Nissan today announced it will be a major participant in the inaugural AutoMobili-D event, which takes place January 8 through 12 in conjunction with the 2017 North American International Auto Show (NAIAS). Nissan’s major activities will include:

A keynote speech by Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. Chief Executive Officer Carlos Ghosn on Monday, January 9 at 3 p.m. EST

A future technology display featuring a “refreshing” demonstration of LEAF-to-Home possibilities with a smoothie machine powered by Nissan LEAF – the world leader in pure electric vehicle sales.

nissan-leaf-ces-nissan-intelligent-mobilty-2Mr. Ghosn, fresh off his keynote address at the 2017 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, will discuss current and future mobility trends – including Nissan’s vision for the future called Nissan Intelligent Mobility. At CES, he projected that by 2030, electric vehicles will account for two-thirds of all cars on the road in populated, high-income cities. This is an increase from less than one percent sold globally in 2015.

Nissan is a pioneer of the electric vehicle movement, having introduced the world’s first mass-market electric car, the Nissan LEAF, in 2010. Today, there are more than 275,000 Nissan EVs on the road globally with 102,000 of these vehicles in United States alone.

EV batteries can do more than just provide power for driving – they can also be used as energy storage devices – and Nissan is a leading proponent of “Vehicle to Home,” “Vehicle to Building” and “Vehicle to Grid” solutions. Nissan is working with various organizations around the country, including utilities, research organizations, charger manufacturers, regulators and other government agencies, as well as the general public, in both demonstration projects and further research.

Nissan is heavily focused on preparing for “LEAF-to-Home” commercialization in the U.S., similar to what is available on the market in Japan today. In 2012, Nissan introduced this system in Japan, allowing drivers to supply a house with the energy stored in a Nissan LEAF battery. By charging the vehicle at night when electricity is cheaper and powering a household during the day, the system assists in alleviating power consumption during peak periods when demand is highest and most expensive. It can also be used as a backup power supply for blackouts and emergencies. Today about 4,000 households in Japan are utilizing their EVs to manage home energy use, and hundreds of EVs are powering buildings in Japan and Europe.

Autonomous Nissan LEAF

Autonomous Nissan LEAF

Elsewhere in the U.S., Nissan is involved with a variety of “Vehicle to Grid” and “LEAF-to-Home” activities – including as a long-term partner with the Department of Defense on multiple grid-based projects at Los Angeles Air Force Base (California), Fort Hood (Texas), and Joint Base Andrews (Maryland). Combined, approximately 30 LEAFs have been deployed at these bases to demonstrate the technical and market viability of EV participation on the grid. Similar programs are underway between Nissan and other organizations around the U.S., including universities and utilities.

As a demonstration at AutoMobili-D, a production LEAF is being utilized for a somewhat different task – powering smoothie machines to provide refreshments (during select times) at the event.

“We’re thrilled to have the opportunity to show the LEAF-to-Home system at Automobili-D,” said Brian Maragno, director, Nissan EV Sales and Marketing. “Nissan has been a pioneer in ‘Vehicle-to-Home’ technology and a leader in its global adoption and we look forward to exploring the potential of this system, as well as the ‘Vehicle-to-Building’ and ‘Vehicle-to-Grid’ solutions in the very near future.”

 

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57 responses to "Nissan LEAF-To-Home Prepped For Commercialization In U.S., Will Be Nissan’s Primary Focus At 2017 NAIAS"

  1. Rightofthepeople says:

    As a Leaf driver, I like the idea of Leaf-to-Home, especially during the occasional power outage. But Ghosn needs to get off his rear end and announce the next gen, 200+ mile Leaf already! Geez man, what is taking them so long?

    1. Alan says:

      If the announcement is not tomorrow at 11.30 am it will be Geneva on March 9th I would imagine.

    2. Mister G says:

      As a leaf driver I also agree Nissan needs to announce 200 mile Leaf. My concern with V2G is faster battery degradation, I lost one bar at 12900 miles on my 2016 Leaf SV.

  2. SparkEV says:

    If their focus is on Leaf-to-Home, Nissan EV will be effectively a failure in US. As I mentioned before, most people (~99%) don’t care about CO2. Just look at all the giant SUV and trucks during rush hour traffic. Around here, they outnumber sedans, and giant sedans are about 3X more common as small cars, which are 10X more common as EV.

    This is despite the fact that polls show majority of people’s concern for climate change and that most people equate EV with green (as in low GHG emissions). If they don’t care to drive EV or small car already to reduce GHG, I doubt they will care if their car can power a home to save few measly GHG that could reduce global temperature by infinitesimal amount while the vast majority continue to drive giant SUV.

    1. Alan says:

      If the US did what they do here in the UK and slap 200% tax on top of the cost of production & delivery they would soon stop driving gas guzzling SUV’s !

      Why do think we all drive tiny little cars in Europe !

      1. SparkEV says:

        US spends more on its military than next 8 countries combined. More taxes in US means more bombs dropped around the world.

        1. Alan says:

          Are you saying that if the government applied more taxes on fuel, they are obliged to increase spending on Military ?

          I don’t see the connection ?

          1. SparkEV says:

            They will spend more on everything wasteful, including the military. Government’s job is to spend all that they can, and if they can’t buy / drop bombs fast enough, they will find some boondoggle like F35 that cost upwards of trillion dollars.

            1. Alan says:

              Ah I see, you mean like every government on the planet !

              1. jimijonjack&Jill says:

                They’re all Getting Rich on Kick Backs That’s the reason Governments Buy $500 hammers & so On . They’re not wasting Money it’s Going Right back In their Pockets…A “Free For All” the Government Officials that is, to Grab $$$ and stuff their Pockets.. With the People’s money..

              2. SparkEV says:

                Yes, just like any government, except US spends disproportionately large amount on its military. More taxes in US means more bombs like nowhere else on the planet.

                Interestingly, lots of peace-nick left wingers in US are all for higher taxes and bigger government despite the fact that far more money goes to the military than anywhere else in the world.

                1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

                  E.g. Ukraine got rid of their bombs and nukes under protection “guarantee” from world powers. Look how well it ended for them, they have plenty of money left for other more useful things :/ Or maybe not :/

        2. Samwise says:

          Given you have borrowed close to 20 trillion dollars it would appear tax revenue and military expenditure (or any expenditure for that matter) are not even vaguely related…

      2. SparkEV says:

        Actually, financial incentive is a good idea, except it’s for more tax breaks for EV, not increasing any taxes. I doubt that will happen, though fun to think about.

        1. GeorgeS says:

          Entertaining comment above sparky.

          Perhaps in some places in the US people could save money on utilities charging at night and emergecy power is good also. But i agree most in the US wont want to pay for v2g. And for sure most have no interest in ghg or global warming. They are skeptical or just plain deniers. I thought you were a skeptic also.

          1. SparkEV says:

            I am only skeptical that climate change will result in global disaster with 100% certainty, which isn’t science. I am in agreement with science in that a) climate change is happening, b) it’s mostly due to man-made sources, c) it will have impact in the future.

            As for the solutions proposed like Kyoto and Paris, those will do little to make much difference. It may delay things by few years, but it won’t matter. What’s needed is radical change in how we generate energy, but such project is not getting much attention. For example, fusion reactor research in US got defunded few months ago with barely a whimper in most green energy web sites.

            1. GeorgeS says:

              Yes. Tons of momentum. The chances of homosapiens reacting in time is close to zero. Im the opposite of you. I think the urgency is off the scale. Once the co2 is in the atmosphere it takes a long time for nature to get it out. Especially if forests are cut down and the ocean looses its capability to proess co2 as well. Then add in more heat retention because no snow to reflect sun rays and all the influence coefficients get worse with time.

              1. SparkEV says:

                Whether you think the urgency is off scale makes little difference in the real world when most people are perfectly happy driving alone in their SUV stuck in traffic while polls show most people say they care about climate change (aka, lip service). It also doesn’t help matters when things that could make a real difference like fusion research gets defunded and most people don’t seem to care.

                In this “climate”, worrying about climate change disaster is about as productive as worrying that sun will rise tomorrow.

            2. D Fearns says:

              Alot of people will be sceptical about global warming until they witness it first-hand and then it will be too late. The average winter temperature here in the UK has been 9 degrees Celsius this winter and on Boxing Day 2015 the cities of York, Leeds and Manchester experienced floods which led to the evacuation of thousands of homes.

          2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

            Many utilities do have paid programs to disconnect your major power hogs like water heater or A/C at peak times when they run out reserves. Not daily, but maybe few times per season only. They also pay quite big money for standing reserves, even diesel generators in UK, just to be ready to power up if needed.

            They may be interested in V2G, maybe not for daily cycling as it may kill battery unless it is designed with cycling in mind, but for reserve power. Although you would need to have car connected at peak time.

      3. jimijonjack&jill says:

        Alain , Did you move to Europe??

    2. e-lectric says:

      Ppl don’t care about CO2, they selected Trumpistan.

      1. SparkEV says:

        It’s not just Dump dolts. Over half the US voted for Shelery, yet majority of cars I see are SUV/trucks. I think only the intelligent people drive EV, regardless of their political affiliation. Given that EV drivers tend to be well off financially, you can’t be stupid and be well off in most cases.

        1. Yogurt says:

          Yep most liberals and enviormentalists are arm chair who say global warming is awful now please give me a big SUV to drive over speed bumps so I can park it in the garage of my 2500 sq foot house…

  3. William says:

    No 2018 Leaf (60 kWh) 2.0 reveal at NAIAS? If this is the case, then the GM Bolt will be the range leader among the ICE OEMs for most, if not all, of 2017! The Tesla Model 3 will launch with only the GM Bolt as a worthy competitor. Good news for Elon and Tesla, now that Carlos and Nissan have conceded Leaf leadership, and thrown in the towel on 5+ years of EV volume production. This givies GM the reigns among ICE OEMs to take over, and will make the Leaf a follower along with the rest of compliance EVs.

    1. GeorgeS says:

      My thoughts also william. Carlos talks a good line but he’s dropped the ball. Tsla and gm take the lead.

  4. Terawatt says:

    I have to say I don’t understand Nissan’s communications strategy. If they don’t let us know even in Detroit WTF they are going to offer in 2017, at the very least they should say when they will announce! A lot of people including the majority of current LEAF drivers want to know, and we are way past the point of arrogance by now. I mean, they behave as if they can’t even hear our cries! Bloody SAY SOMETHING, it’s not polite to just ignore us!!

    Their invitation for people to say what they want rings hollow as long as the company doesn’t understand that a conversation has got to go both ways and involve some back and forth.

    1. Alan says:

      Nissan don’t do Vapourware, when it’s ready to go, they will make an announcement.

      While they are still selling 1899 Leafs in the US last month, it’s not all doom & gloom for them.

      1. Doggydogworld says:

        1899? Wow, I new the Leaf design was outdated, but I didn’t realize it was THAT old 🙂

    2. TP says:

      @Terawatt, I get the impression that the management at Nissan is very conservative, and that they are scared that they will do major damage to sales of the existing LEAF if they announce a newer model with a significant range increase too soon. That said, I do not expect them to say much if anything about the 2nd generation until they are ready to start producing, or perhaps already have some produced and are on their way to dealerships.

      I could be wrong, but I do not believe that the 2nd generation body style will be so different as to be easily spotted in public road validation tests.

  5. Loboc says:

    This is all we need. Yet more fragmented standards. Do you want ChaDemo in your garage? I don’t.

    The U.S. needs to choose a standard as the Japanese have. Without regs we are getting a mish-mash of standards. We already have three different DCFC types deployed.

    1. Alan says:

      PODPOINT here in the UK do a universal home charger which should be good for a few types, would that work in the US ?

  6. Someone out there says:

    I don’t see the vehicle-to-home idea. During the day you normally have your car with you i.e. not at home, so what is the point? Except for very rare occasions I don’t see the need.

    1. DougB says:

      The most beneficial time to have the car powering a home is just after work. This is when TOU rates are highest and home power demands as largest (making dinner, tv, laundry), so it still makes sense even for the commuting vehicle.

  7. Joe says:

    While most cars are taken to work, and are away from the home during the day, a small number are still in the driveway. relatively speaking, it doesn’t take much to power your home. 15-20kwh for a full day. So if a (future) city with 50,000 EV homes has 2% with cars in the driveway, that’s potentially 1000 cars still grid-connected. Assuming they’re Leafs, that’s >20mwh battery capacity to smooth out the peaks and power-surges.

  8. wavelet says:

    V2Home is a subset of the V2G concept. Sure, nice to have for emergencies, but not mainstream — certainly not with a low-ish range EVs like the LEAF.

    V2G is very interesting for power companies as a way to flatten demand curves, as long as there are many EVs on the roads and they are parked & grid-connected in the peak times (early afternoon oe early evening in most climates),
    However, in order to be practical, it also requires standardization and regulation of the service terms and fee schemes — not just the electrical issues.
    Either way, it’s not a something an EV manufacturer should be spending major efforts
    on — certainly not when they don’t even have their own charging networks!

    Nissan, get with the the program.

  9. philip d says:

    If they implement this I think the used EV market would need to replace the odometer as the standard for how many “miles” a car has.

    I would want to know how many effective charge/discharge cycles the battery in the car has rather than how many revolutions the tires made.

  10. David Murray says:

    If Nissan really holds out to the last minute then they must be convinced the announcement will kill sales of the current model. That’s sort of a good omen in a way, because that means the new Leaf may be a huge improvement both with range and appearance.

  11. mustang_sallad says:

    Anybody know how much the V2H system costs in Japan or how much it’ll be likely to cost in the US? It uses the Chademo port, so figure the cost of a 6kW DCFC but with bi-directional capability. I’m guessing the true cost would be around $5k, and I would have a hard time imagining many people would be willing to pay that price once they have a closer look at the benefits of such a system. Peak electricity prices aren’t high enough to justify it, and gas generators, while pretty noisy, are very cheap, and you can probably put up with the noise given that it’s not all that often that you need it.

    To be clear – I would absolutely pay for this, cause it’s cool, but I’m just saying that I think the market will be very limited.

    1. vdiv says:

      How much do people pay for a solar inverter? I don’t find the $5k that prohibitive for those that care about this.

      1. mustang_sallad says:

        That’s totally different. Solar generates free electricity. V2G capabilities just allows you to store the electricity that you’re buying from the utility and maybe use it at a different time, provided that your vehicle use schedule permits it.

    2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      Nissan’s one was 330,000 yen with installation and tax afters subsidies when it was launched in 2012, I think 6 kWH.
      http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2012/05/nissan-launched-leaf-to-home-v2h-ev.html

      Honda’s a bit more powerful Power Exporter suggested price 1,180,000 yen with sales tax, but I guess without subsidies.
      http://world.honda.com/news/2016/4160310eng.html
      Some $10,000 in the US?

      Toyota also has 3 models for 480,000-780,000 yen plus tax, about half of it can be subsidized in Japan.
      http://insideevs.com/toyota-mirai-can-serves-emergency-power-supply-using-chademo/

      As they all are Chademo, hopefully they are interchangeable.
      I guess though they are too expensive to sell seriously in the US, although they showed some demos.

  12. hpver says:

    Unless this is some kind of elaborate feint, Nissan has lost its way. They are primarily a CAR company and that’s what they should be focusing on. V2G is not a bad idea, but to make it their chief focus is just ridiculous.

    For God’s sake, Nissan, show us a Gen 2 Leaf with decent battery thermal management and at least 220 miles of range. Then we can maybe discuss V2G.

  13. hpver says:

    Also, if Nissan really does have a next gen Leaf ready, wouldn’t we have heard some kind of leaked info about it, however vague, by now? Are they really that much better than any other manufacturer at keeping things under wraps? Kudos if they are, but the longer this thing drags on, the more unlikely I find that to be.

    1. Pete says:

      Look at the Nissan Micra and the Nissan Sentra. Nearly nothing come out to this model. I think Nissan learned keep some things very secret in the last years.
      What I heared from guy working on Nissan, the second generation is really only some months (not more than 8) away.

  14. Spark+Fiat Leased - M3 reserved - Bolt TBD says:

    V2H is Powerwall on wheels. Don’t know why people are so against it when Powerwall sells out 2 years worth in weeks — talk about eyecandy hype.

    Coupled with solar, V2H makes perfect sense with the commuter EV car–especially if you have a range car like the Bolt now.

    Solar powers majority of the day and excess feeds the grid. Come home and plug in V2H and remainder battery supports the home between 6-9pm getting rid of the duckbill solar induced issue and further smoothing grid draw. Then recharge at night — further smoothing the grid win win win for all stakeholders.

    The problem is that this kills the secondary market for all those powerwalls (hence no push from Tesla to support V2H from ‘Green loving Elon’)

    I have no idea why GM doesn’t push this as it would be the clear differentiator between Bolt and Tesla since GM doesn’t have a horse in the Energy battery race with a powerwall use like the others.

  15. Bill Howland says:

    “Leaf powers a concert”

    That would be true if they had to power a 10 horsepower pipe organ.

    Just running a few guitar amplifiers such as here, my or anyone’s Volt or ELR can easily do that on a charged high voltage battery.

    I’ve run a demonstration Ham Radio station only running from my battery alone, at a coffee-shop parking lot, with just a Harbor Junk Tools inverter, and a 100 foot extension cord.

    SO this is the big accomplishment Nissan is going to do for 2017? Run a few Guitar Amps?

    Its not even April 1st yet.

  16. Mister G says:

    Carlos show the world a 200 mile Leaf! Stop the foot dragging.

  17. DJ says:

    I don’t get why they keep pushing this in a Leaf. The Leaf batteries go to crap way too quickly just from driving!! Why would I want them to go to crap even faster from the extra charge cycles to power my home? Sure in a power outage it would be nice but that is really it, I suppose if I were to lease one I may not care but they aren’t doing themselves any favors if the new Leaf truly is only air cooled.

  18. Jason says:

    If Nissan release a 100KwH battery, then this makes sense. To take possibly 10Kw from the usable 18KwH battery in a Leaf means you now have a range something like 30mi, not very good. But if you take that from 100KwH battery you still have significant range.

    Fur me the Power Wall makes sense, that power is available 24/7 regardless if the car is there or not. v2g is only available when the car is parked. There is no indication this is like solar feed in, so it does not appear to be benefiting near by buildings, of that is the intention then a lot of things need to change (who wants to buy the power off peak and then the guy next door uses it?).

    I don’t think Nissan has a Leaf 2.0 ready. If they do, then it makes no sense to hold that information back. Anyone ready in US will buy the Bolt as it is already available. Or they are waiting for Model 3. If Nissan let’s you know they have Leaf 2.0 ready next month or so, then some will wait for that, but in the absence of any information they will get what is available to them now.

    1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      Powerwall is only 13.5 kWh when new, and going down afterwards. Solar may or may be available each day during storm or afterwards, or even less likely after power lines collapse from ice in winter.

      Car battery may be some 60 kWh usable. And can be recharged elsewhere. Or refueled if it is PHEV or FC car.

      Plain old nat. gas or propane or gasoline or diesel ICE generator would be still cheaper and would last for much longer, if you can provide fuel.

  19. Doggydogworld says:

    High-sun areas, such as the US southwest, could achieve 80% solar with EVs and V2H. Fill up with cheap 4 cent/kWh excess midday output from utility-scale installations and run your home during the peak evening hours as PV output ramps down.

    V2G can do more, but rate schedules and such get tricky. V2H works well with simple TOU schedules.

    Places like Hawaii could do this starting today.

  20. speculawyer says:

    Really? I like the idea but people are WAAAAAY to technically incompetent to handle something like that. And they’ll have a heck of time dealing with building regulations, utility rules, utility regulator rules, etc.

  21. unlucky says:

    DARPA-e explained why V2G/V2H is just too expensive right now. Pack wear must be costed into what you are paying for electricity and it’s just too high.

    V2G is useful if your power goes out and you’d just like to have power without having to pay for a generator that sits around most of the time. But to use it for day-to-day savings doesn’t work. You’ll lose money on it.

    And then there is the issue as mentioned above that your car typically isn’t *at your home* during the day for you to draw power from.

    V2G is just some kind of fanciful marketing right now. Ignore it.

    And Nissan, get back to work. Make a longer range car and I don’t mean an even longer pack in the current frumpy LEAF. You need to get to making a better EV now.

    When the LEAF came out it had almost no competition and so it stood above. Ford came out with the overpriced Focus Electric with a trunk taken up by the battery pack. BMW only had conversion 1-series on non-renewable leases. Honda had the conversion FIT EV (with its messed up rear seats/trunk) also on non-renewable leases and those jokers also pulled a GM in refusing to lease it until you had installed an EVSE at home!

    The competition was poor and the LEAF looked good. Some of its competitors have even been retired already (Fit EV, Spark EV, RAV4 EV). Now the LEAF competes against better conversions like the M-B b250, FIAT 500e and Soul EV. It competes against vehicles designed-as EVs like the Bolt EV (mostly), the e-Golf (somewhat) and the i3. Even the Focus Electric is a lot cheaper now.

    It’s only going to look worse when the IONIQ comes out. Please Nissan, don’t stick a new pack in the same car which already shows its Versa heritage. It’s time to turn up the wick a notch or two. Make a better car and with better range. And please, please add CCS in the US and Europe. It’s the way forward. Keep CHAdeMO if you must (and you must in Japan) but add CCS.

  22. Ian says:

    What this will do is very clever. All those cheap used 24 kWh Nissan LEAFs being sold for under $15000 at auctions will get scooped up fast and used as battery storage for home solar. Just park them in a shed and plug them in. 4-7 kWh solar should be all you need. Even if the pack degraded to a 15kwh capacity you just let it collect dust in your shed.

  23. jim stack says:

    Nissan needs to add battery cooling for long life if they want to also use the battery pack for V2H. It’s the only plugin car that has batteries that die at this time.

  24. Josh Bryant says:

    No LEAF at the regular Nissan stage presentation earlier.

    http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/us-united-states-nissan/releases/watch-nissan-live-at-the-2017-naias-in-detroit

    Can’t get this live stream of the keynote up, says “Live stream is starting soon”.

    Anyone else have luck finding it?