More Details On Lucid Motors EV: 100 kWh Battery, Optional 130 kWh With 400 Miles Range

6 months ago by Eric Loveday 53

Lucid Motors EV

Lucid Motors EV

Later this week (Wednesday December 14 to be exact) Lucid Motors is expected to fully reveal its new electric “executive sedan,” but ahead of that unveiling, we’ve learned some additional info related to the car.

Lucid Motors teaser

Lucid Motors teaser

According to the automaker, the electric sedan will have two battery pack options. The base pack will be 100 kWh, but an optional 130 kWh pack will be offered. Range for the base pack is expected to be around 300 miles, while Lucid touts up to 400 miles for the upgraded 130 kWh pack.

All battery cells (breakthrough…of course) will be provided by Samsung SDI.

On the performance side, Lucid say the car will crank out 1,000 HP! The o to 60 MPH dash will be accomplished in “less than 3 seconds.”

We hope to have more details on Lucid’s first electric car following its reveal on Wednesday.

Source: Automotive News

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53 responses to "More Details On Lucid Motors EV: 100 kWh Battery, Optional 130 kWh With 400 Miles Range"

  1. Kdawg says:

    Sounds like a Tesla P100D competitor, but not on my radar. I hope they eventually make a Bolt/Model 3 competitor.

    1. John says:

      I want all of the EV makers to stop competing with Tesla…

      I want someone to make an EV that competes with a Honda Civic, or a Mazda 3…

      You can get either one of those cars for around $17k. Yeah, Yeah, maintenance, cost of fuel, etc….

      But until banks will lend based on total cost of ownership, actual purchase price will be a HUGE factor.

      1. Kev994 says:

        Me too! I just want a comfortable car with decent range that will fit 2 child seats, and can use the full potential of a 115v plug if I want to charge away from home(the biggest negative I see in the bolt). I have no desire to hit 60 mph in 3 seconds. Why would I ever need to do that?

        1. DangerHV says:

          You can use 115v with the Bolt, and every other ev on the market.

        2. Heisenberght says:

          “the full potential of a 115v plug”

          I can’t explain why, but this is real fun to read! Thanks. Who finds the 7 things that make me smile? Wow it is 7 things! 7!

          1. ffbj says:

            Your comment does have potential.

        3. Bill Howland says:

          I think the BMW’s are the only commonly available ev’s that can use the 115 volt recepticle to its “Full potential”. The L1 standard allows for 16 amps and the BMW WOULD comply but the ‘occasional use cords’ supplied with the cars in the states only go to 12 amps. Bmmer Bummer.

          1. Bill Howland says:

            The only other car where you had a choice of something more than 12 amps (and, in effect, this is the only car EVER that came with MORE than that, since the BMW had it but can’t use it) which was 15, which they could have easily made it 16 as it was with the Roadster models in Europe, but someone apparently got confused.

      2. Kdawg says:

        I think we are many years away from a $17K plug-in, unless you are OK with a PiP size battery.

        Obviously battery prices need to drop, it will just be interesting when we hit the threshold of where it becomes cheaper to buy a BEV vs. a PHEV, let alone a standard ICE car. The threshold would also depend on what kind of lower-cost range extenders are developed.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          If we do see a highway-capable, street-legal ~$17k plug-in EV sold in North America within the next few years, it’s gonna look something like this:


          The 2017 Solo, a single-seat PEV from Electra Meccanica, with a price touted at $19,888 in Canada, or USD ~$15,500

          1. Anon says:

            But I’m not looking for half a car…

          2. Foo says:

            That thing looks more like a shoe than a car.

          3. Priusmaniac says:

            That is perhaps too much of a cut but today a former company like Coda would have more chance to succeed in bringing an affordable basic car on the market. Something with 200 miles of range but in the 20000 $ -25000$ range that still looks normal with five seats and just the basic required equipment. It would be less fun but way more people could afford the ev move.

  2. Mister G says:

    Lucid motors is mating a Bugatti and Honda civic. Lol

  3. GeorgeS says:

    Is this a chinese company?

    1. Kdawg says:

      Here’s the (small) Wiki on Lucid. Chinese investors.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_Motors

      “Background – Some of Lucid’s 300 employees previously worked at Mazda, Tesla and other car companies. The company is financed by Tsing, Sumitomo, Venrock, LeEco and others, providing $131 million by 2016”

  4. jimijonjack says:

    Elusive motors …I wish someone would come up with a Nice looking “SENSIBLE” High Efficiency Electric Car with Less Power , More range, Less bells & whistles, Just a little more than your basic meat & potatoes Car, Something we can all afford and Use..

    1. Kdawg says:

      They did, and it’s for sale now in some states.

      1. Nix says:

        I see what you did there…
        *grin*

  5. Blandman says:

    Gosh. Why am I skeptical? We don’t need another luxury sedan. We need an AWD EV with 300+ miles range for under $40k.

    1. spinner says:

      In Europe all we need is a family sized EV with 200+ miles with fast charging for under $30k that would do it. Once a year I travel 350 miles to go on holiday and my farthest relative lives 100 miles away.

      1. Heisenberght says:

        Yeah my former neighbour also travelled 5 miles once a week. All his relatives lived no further than 2 miles and he travelled more than 50 miles just once in his life.

        There is use for any 200+ mile car in Europe 😉

        1. spinner says:

          If there was a cheap enough autonomous taxi service I would be happy to use that and not own a vehicle at all. Hopefully the days of everyone owning a car are coming to an end anyway.

    2. AlphaEdge says:

      Unfortunately thanks to Tesla, that segment drives excitement, and the high end segment is where the profits are.

      If you want to get noticed, high power and fast times.

      1. MTN Ranger says:

        Exactly, it’s much easier to build an expensive long-range BEV in small quantities than an inexpensive one. This is especially true for a small company that can’t afford mass production requirements at this time.

    3. John says:

      EV luxury sedan is still better than an ICE luxury sedan.

    4. Spider-Dan says:

      Nobody wants to copy Nissan or GM and make affordable BEVs. That isn’t sexy.

      People want to copy Tesla.

  6. leafowner says:

    Are those the same battery cells that were used in the Note 7?

    1. Michael L. says:

      Hopefully not. 😛

      BMW uses battery cells from Samsung SDI too and i’ve never heard from an exploding BMW i3.

    2. JyBicycleOrTesla says:

      3 bar losers shouldn’t make fun of batteries.

  7. james says:

    Good luck to them. Not sure the world needed another high-performance sedan from a startup, but okay. Tesla is led by a genius who is also a brilliant marketing guy, and they’ve barely made it, so I’m not particularly optimistic for these guys or FF. I think the smart ppl have been the ones going for niche markets, like Proterra.

  8. Anthony says:

    At this point it seems pretty dumb business-wise to make a Tesla Model S competitor. As the Great One said… skate to where the puck is going, not where it is now!

    By the time this car comes out, Tesla will follow after shortly with the full Model S gen2 (if they aren’t too distracted). The second gen Model S and X should be much easier to manufacture (using lessons from Model 3) and will likely wipe the floor with anyone directly trying to copy them.

    1. Kdawg says:

      “skate to where the puck is going”
      ——
      I think this what Faraday Future was trying to do. They went way out there, and many/most here lambasted them for it. Not saying this is good or bad, just noting how many reacted to ‘futuristic’ concept.

  9. Me says:

    Saw the car yesterday driving on the street. It’s actually really small. Looks somewhere between a compact and a small midsize (e.g. between Mazda 3 and BMW 3-series sized).

    1. JyBicycleOrTesla says:

      Then you saw the wrong car.

    2. bogdan says:

      It’s the body shape of AUDI A4 from 2005…

  10. Yogurt says:

    Startup companies dont have the manufacturing scale, buying power, brand recoginition, or quality reputation to make and sell a cheap electic car in mass since average Joe’s will never buy a car from a company they have not heard of…
    In essence startups will never out Toyota Toyota so we all better hope for the Toyotas of the world to step up there BEV work and for Tesla to keep taking there customers away until then…
    So Lucid is doing the right thing…

  11. bjrosen says:

    This is classic “stupid money”, trying to chase a successful start up by imitating them. This never works. There won’t be anymore successful EV startups after Tesla, the new EVs will all come from established car makers.

    Tesla did something amazing, the last American car startup to survive for more than a couple of years was Dodge. Most only delivered a handful of prototypes, Tucker, DeLorean. But Tesla has shipped a significant number of cars and they have developed an Apple like cachet so they might survive if success doesn’t kill them (i.e. if the Model 3 loses money on each car and it brings down the company).

    One final thought, is that paint job for real? As if a 1000HP car wasn’t dangerous enough giving it a stealth paint job so that it’s invisible to other drivers makes it seem that their goal is build a deathtrap. The paint job was called “dazzle painting” or “zebrage” during WWI when it was used on ships to make them invisible to U-Boats. It worked pretty well. The idea came from zebras (thus zebrage) which are stripped so that lions can’t see them.

    1. JyBicycleOrTesla says:

      Are you joking? The vehicle is camouflaged. The unveiling is this Wednesday.

    2. ffbj says:

      Lincoln, Chrysler.
      For zebras it makes it harder with the addition of running together that confuses the lion. A lone zebra can easily be seen by a lion.
      Still good information and I find the main thrust of your comment correct.

  12. Scott Franco says:

    4,000 lbs cars are the future dinosaurs. We don’t need that much capacity in EVs, we need faster charging.

    I don’t have any interest in dragging around 2,000 lbs of excess range. Much more efficient to spend battery improvements after 50kWh into reducing cost and weight.

    1. Priusmaniac says:

      400 miles of range is not too much. It is the same range as a Prius and many other cars have much more range.

      Also a lot of energy doesn’t necessarily mean much weight if they use the best energy capacity cell available.

      Another interest of more energy in the battery is also that they are able to recharge at a higher power rate, so they recharge more miles per minute.

  13. floydboy says:

    From what I can ascertain so far, this will be a single(permanent magnet) rear motor, 2 or more speed car. Likely four seats(pushed way back for leg room) posh interior, front trunk, likely with laser headlights, judging from the narrowness of the opening. Cost(if they don’t sell at a loss) may be around 180 large to start.

  14. instant tq says:

    instead of dully poking in more batteries, shouldn’t all these sturtups innovate on the business models of EV charging? you don’t need heavy expensive 130 kWh battery if your 60kWh EV fast charges for 100 mi while you’re buying groceries for 20-30 minutes. And every frigging shop in the city should have such fast chargers on it’s parking lots

    1. Priusmaniac says:

      It is not really the one or the other but rather all of it, much energy capacity and very fast charging. Of course most of the time you charge slowly overnight at home but it is essential to be able to approach as much as possible the ICE type fast refill possibility as well to reduce the threshold holding back the switch from petrol cars to ev cars.

  15. Nix says:

    Tesla’s business plan was brilliant for the time, because the public didn’t believe actual production EV’s could be bullet fast and sexy hot. EV’s had a reputation of being glorified golf carts with a full top. Like a Think EV or a Mahindra Reva…

    Proving that wrong has been wildly successful for Tesla, leading them to be a top EV manufacturer. But the precondition that made their performance EV’s such a draw for international attention doesn’t exist anymore. Tesla already succeeded in showing people that EV’s can be damn fast, unlike their preconceived ideas about EV’s.

    A new company can’t repeat that phenomena again. It was a one-time thing, like losing one’s virginity. It has already been proven that fast expensive EV’s are possible.

    All these new companies trying to repeat Tesla’ business plan need to fast forward. It isn’t enough to JUST have a halo car. Now if you don’t have a car that can compete with a Model 3, or that can compete with a Chevy Bolt, you simply aren’t credible.

    Lucid, Karma, Faraday Future, Fisker and anybody else who want to break into the US market, all need to an M3/Bolt competitor to be announced to go with any expensive Halo cars the want to sell in order to excite actual car buyers.

    They now need something like what BMW did with their i3/i8 pair when those were promoted roughly in parallel.

  16. bogdan says:

    If they copy the Model S, then they need to copy the super charger network too.

    1. Priusmaniac says:

      Yes obviously if they don’t make an agreement to access the superchargers then there is no way they can effectively fast charge. Unless of course if they make their own network of even better faster, no human intervention fast chargers. For example at 800 v or 1600 v at 500 KW or 1000 KW and with pantographs connectors coming from under the car on secured ground contacts. If they did that then it would be complete. They could even open up those new Megachargers for other users, for instance Tesla, although Tesla will likely do it before them, but you never know.

      1. Bill Howland says:

        I CAN SEE THIS VISION OF THE FUTURE:

        85 Model 3’s charging at 1000 kw at my favorite shopping mall.

        AND:

        A new 85 MW POWER PLANT installed at an unused corner of the Joint.

        1. Priusmaniac says:

          When it only takes 6 minutes at 1000 KW to charge a Model 3, 85 MW could charge 20400 cars in 24 h, that is a lot of cars, so it would be worth it. Alternatively 4 stalls at that rate would charge 960 cars in 24 h but need only 4 MW. In other words, a single standard wind turbine.

  17. John in AA says:

    Whenever a noun is modified by the adjective “executive” I think of Eddie Izzard.