Mercedes B-Class ED Set To Get Range Bump To Over 300 Miles – Report

1 year ago by Jay Cole 62

The Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric Drive Got A Little Sportier Look For 2015  (InsideEVs/ Tom Moloughney)

The Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric Drive Got A Little Sportier Look For 2015 (InsideEVs/ Tom Moloughney)

A new report from a German auto magazine, known for having an ear on the happenings behind the scenes at Daimler, Auto Motor Und Sport, says the company’s Mercedes-Benz brand intends to bump the B-Class Electric Drive’s range up to 310 miles (500 km), while also removing the Tesla drivetrain from the equation, and instead opting to build it in house for the next generation.

Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric Drive interior

Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric Drive interior

Today’s B-Class ED gets 104 miles of range on the US EPA cycle (from $41,450 +dst);  although we should note it is listed officially at 87 miles due to the initial model year offering having an “optional range” package (details) that provided full access to the battery’s abilities, and opened up a further 17 miles of range – an option that is now standard.

To be fair, this new 500 km/310 mile bogey that Auto Motor Und Sport is reporting is most definitely on the European NEDC scale – which is far more lenient than the EPA.

The current B-Class Electric Drive (with extended range added in) is touted at 230 km (143 miles) by the company in Europe; so in this case – a 500 km/310 mile projection for the next generation of B-Class ED would translate to an apples-to-apples comparison of about ~360 km/225 milesStill pretty decent.

This new report is also backed up by an earlier statement from Thomas Weber (who heads up R&D for Mercedes passenger vehicle division), who said last year that “the range of the B-Class Electric Drive could increase to 185 or 250 miles” in under 5 years time.

Auto Motor Und Sport (via Seeking Alpha)

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62 responses to "Mercedes B-Class ED Set To Get Range Bump To Over 300 Miles – Report"

  1. kdawg says:

    ” to an apples-to-apples comparison of about ~360 km/225 miles.”
    —–

    So basically a Mercedes version of the Chevy Bolt for $4K more, assuming they don’t increase the current price of $41,500.

    1. kdawg says:

      Oops make that $5k more, since the price actually appears to be $42,500.

      1. Brian says:

        Kind of. But the B-Class is much larger than the Bolt. Plus the Mercedes badge is worth much more than the Chevy bowtie to some. That second point alone makes the $5k premium look like a steal!

        1. ModernMarvelFan says:

          “But the B-Class is much larger than the Bolt”

          We won’t know until Bolt comes out.

          B-class is about the size of Ford C-max…

          1. Brian says:

            Fair enough. I shouldn’t state assumptions as fact. I do assume it will be larger, but we won’t know until both cars are in production.

            1. Bill Howland says:

              You never told me the specs of your new c-max.

              3.0 Kw charger?? How fast can it go without the engine running, etc.?

          2. Jeff koupal says:

            Sitting in the C-max is cramped.
            Sitting in the B-class feels very roomy.
            no comparison at all, even though the exterior size looks similar.

        2. no comment says:

          to get real status from the driving a benzo, you’ve got to be rolling at least e-class, and ideally s-class, in my opinion. a c-class or b-class just won’t get it done.

          1. Brian says:

            Spoken like a proper car snob 🙂

            Sorry, us lowly Nissan/Ford driving types just don’t “get it” 😉

      2. philip d says:

        Also more than the Model 3.

    2. Stimpy says:

      That would be a pretty good deal actually.

      1. miggy says:

        500km Range would be great, bring it on MB.

  2. ggpa says:

    Put me in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” group.

    It is one thing to believe that Chevy Bolt will have a 50kWh battery pack and cost $37,500.

    It is a totally different story to increase the B-class range by 120%. That car is bigger, heavier, less aerodynamic. It gets 104 miles on a 36kWh pack. If you want to stretch that to 220 miles, you’ll need about 80kWh. That will be a big, heavy and expensive battery pack.

    @Kdawg, do not hold your breath waiting for Mercedes to extend the range to 220 miles and keep the price the same.

    1. kdawg says:

      Don’t worry. Even if if did happen, I’d never buy a Mercedes.

      1. Scott says:

        Thank you for this incredibly informative and useful statement.

        1. ArkansasVolt says:

          neither would I.

          1. Boris says:

            I would…

            1. ffbj says:

              I might.

              1. Boris says:

                Well, I wouldn’t actually, but my wife would…

                1. Vin says:

                  I would, because my wife said so.

                  1. leaf owner says:

                    I would consider a lease — not a buy.

                    1. pjwood1 says:

                      Possibly the best BEV interior out there, but it is not being sold. I’ve driven, and happened to be next to an owner yesterday. Even with the ~110 mile range package, or the new Leaf, I’d go CPO 60kwh before wanting to bring upon myself the inevitable safaris, for charging stations. Yesterday, the person next to me complained about how a multi-charge bay garage was on the fritz, which brought her to the lot I was in. Even if you have “plan B”, it isn’t always fun with ~100 mile BEVs.

                      Is it the service, that has annoyed so many Mercedes customers?

                    2. sven says:

                      “. . . the inevitable safaris, for charging stations.”

                      Haha!

                  2. MIkeM says:

                    My wife’s smarter than your wife – and even SHE said so!

                    1. Matthias says:

                      I have no wife, what am I gonna do now 🙁

                    2. kdawg says:

                      Pretty much whatever you want, whenever you want.

                    3. Brian says:

                      LOL!

      2. no comment says:

        i have a different perspective, maybe my view is a bit influenced by the rap records that extolled the virtues of rolling in big benzes:

        “rolled from california all the way to new york in big benzes”/”five hundred S driving with hand on trigger” – too $hort/erick sermon

  3. jelloslug says:

    Would consider.

  4. Seth says:

    It doesn’t specify *any* timeframe, so this is basically just like all the rest of the announcements without actual product.

    Unfortunate, and for no reason. There is quite a market that would pay a 5k premium over the current listprice for double the capacity. If you wish to acknowledge this market.

    1. Michael Will says:

      The market is acknowledged – the technology isn’t there yet, would if they could… When the next breakthrough in battery technology happens they all will have it.

  5. Alan says:

    It’s certainly feasible, but without a 100+kW charging solution, it’ll be pretty handicapped vis-a-vis Tesla’s Model ///, which should be out by the time this upgrade comes out.

    1. ELROY says:

      Its absolutely insane the current B class doesnt have quick charging. What were they thinking?

      1. Anon says:

        They were thinking, “Cripple it!” 😉

        1. protomech says:

          Or “Ship it”.

          The original B-Class ED was a compliance vehicle only.

          Maybe this next version will be more compelling and widely available.

          1. Aaron says:

            To be fair, it does do 10kW L2 charging. If they put fast charging on it, they’ll likely use CCS, making the fast charging unusable for many (most?) of us.

            1. Westchester EV says:

              +1

              We have an 2015 MBe and a Tesla.

              The MBe is fine for my wife who loves her car. No quick charging work as it does have the 10kwh charging.

      2. Jeff Songster says:

        Any current model that doesn’t offer DC Quick Charging is lame. Especially considering that they were among the ‘must be CCS’ crowd… No quick chargers at their dealerships… no quick chargers on their cars. Nice car otherwise… solid… comfy. Sad compliance play. Skip this one… and the next if it doesn’t come with a DCFC charger net option.

    2. The everywhere 50 kW CSS charger will fill up quicker than you go through the waiting queue at the rare Supercharger locations.

      1. I’ve got to give you credit for always saying the opposite of reality!

  6. offib says:

    Of course Jay is going to be over the moon with this!

    1. ClarksonCote says:

      Yes, think of all the BJ runs he can make with a car like this!

      1. kdawg says:

        Too bad there isn’t a BJ 5K. I’d run that.

  7. CDAVIS says:

    R&M Mercedes EV vs Tesla?

    One of the selling points of owning an EV is lowering the ownership cost of R&M. Mercedes, for USA dealerships, is notorious for sky-high (read abusive) R&M post warranty period and for those items not covered inside warrant period. Mercedes franchise dealerships are very financially reliant to high margin Service Department R&M.

    Tesla recently significant lowered R&M replacement parts cost in response to many Tesla owners complaining on public forums about Tesla’s high (like MBenz) R&M costs.

    It will be interesting to see how the topic of ownership R&M plays out; I think along with access to a Supercharger network it’s going to give Tesla a leg-up against the incumbent car makers such as Mercedes.

  8. philip d says:

    A GLA starts at about $32,000. If they actually wanted to sell them and a lot of them they would put the EV drivetrain in a GLA and charge $45,000-$50,000.

    That price would easily accommodate a 60 kWh battery at $200/kWh for a $12,000 dollar cost to Mercedes. Even with the extra weight and worse aero it should still be able to get a 180-200 mile range.

    I still can’t understand why the automakers can’t get it through their thick heads that people will buy a f*ck-ton of EV crossovers if they make them.

    1. Rick Danger says:

      They know. They don’t want to mess up the massive profit streams they get from selling antiquated, polluting, gas drinking hogs with hundreds more parts to wear out and replace. The belts, hoses and filters alone add up to a decent profit over the life of millions of cars.
      This is why Tesla’s market cap is where it is; it is the only company that’s all-in on EVs. Tesla can’t grow fast enough, which is why it is burning through money to grow as fast as it can.
      The Volt has been out for 5 years – still no crossover in sight. The Model S has been out for just 3 years and the SUV Model X is coming out next month. Tesla wanted to bring it out a year after the Model S, but they just couldn’t grow fast enough to do it.
      I’d be willing to bet the Model ≡ has a crossover version within 2 years of it’s debut. Will there be a crossover Volt even then???

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        +100

      2. TomArt says:

        Yep, Tesla knows what sells. A Model III CUV should sell very well, particularly if the Model X driving dynamics, safety and useful space play out favorably. They are definitely planning one (it’s been on presentation slides for at least 6 or 7 years now)…but yeah, who knows how quickly they will get it out on the market after the sedan.

      3. Ozz says:

        Ok so GM is missing the boat on the crossover sector, but you mention how on top of things they are, but the model 3 is not even off the drawing board yet and meanwhile Chevy has announced, designed and is field testing their Bolt that is gonna launch nationwide about the same time as the model X.
        I’m not saying GM is perfect, but let’s get our arguments straight, GM can move MUCH faster than tesla, now that it has development money from 2 good sales years, and a good CEO in tow.
        There is ONE more unnamed EV coming from the Bolt factory and I think it’s gonna be a midsize vehicle such as Equinox.

    2. wavelet says:

      Answer is really simple, but for some reason the question gets asked over and over again.

      There’s not enough battery production YET on the planet for anything except a small number of compact vehicles. That’s why all EV (except Tesla) are compacts or subcompacts, or if larger, PHEVs. There’s no sense in a vendor trying to create demand when they can’t fulfil it. This will change with the gigafactory, as well as all other battery vendors expanding at a serious pace — but you have to wait 2-3 years for that to start having an impact.

  9. Kaleb says:

    philip d wrote:
    “I still can’t understand why the automakers can’t get it through their thick heads that people will buy a f*ck-ton of EV crossovers if they make them.”

    I totally agree. I could care less if the efficiency isn’t as high as a car-based EV, the cost to drive electric is so incredibly cheap that it simply doesn’t matter to me. I don’t even bother driving my LEAF efficiently for that reason.

  10. Scott says:

    Everyone seems to be making these 300+ mile claims. Talk’s cheap…

    1. mr. M says:

      MB didn’t talk, but some newspaper from unknown sources. Talk is cheap? Sure.

      I think after big carmaker started noticing the success if Tesla they startend longer range BEV development. Development start till production takes 3-5 years.

  11. Sam EV says:

    It’s nice to see they are looking to improve/further their EV program. The current B-Class is a really nice EV with exception of the missing L3 charging.

  12. Bill Howland says:

    So, since they have to provide 2 different facilities, one for Europe (Mennekis) and one for North America (J1772), what is the battery and charging situation now that they done’ use Tesla products any longer?

    Do they still offer 9.6 kw charging in the states?

    How much will they charge for a 220 mile range car and when will it be available.?

  13. TomArt says:

    Tesla has excellent performance and range, respectable interiors, accessible pricing (for the performance level), access to additional cost reductions (particularly with the gigafactory) and, probably most importantly, the intercity supercharger network.

    All put together, Tesla has paved themselves a smooth, wide, tree-lined boulevard to current and future success.

    All these competing 150+ range offerings are dead in the water without a supercharger-type network (or a serious upgrade to the existing DC “quick” chargers).

  14. Nix says:

    Good to hear. Car makers get an extra ZEV credit for each car they sell that has over a 200 mile range. Each ZEV credit is worth up to $5,000 dollars (less if they can find a ZEV Credit seller in the open market).

    If they can put in the larger battery for less than the price of obtaining the ZEV credit it earns, the cost of the larger batteries is essentially zero.

  15. Nix says:

    All they would need to compete with Tesla would be their own Supercharger network….

    1. tftf says:

      No, they will go with the CCS standard plug like virtually all Western car makers.

      They are a standard member for CCS DC charging.

      It doesn’t make sense for each car maker to install their own stations (and an incompatible mess as a result).

      1. Nix says:

        My post was more of a jab at them not being able to compare to the Tesla on range without having the ability to charge as fast as the Tesla than an actual suggestion.

        If I were actually to be constructive, I would rephrase, and suggest that they team up with Tesla to grow the Supercharger network and use it for both company’s cars.
        Because you are right, the last thing we need is 20 different chargers for 20 different car makers.

  16. Benz says:

    I’ll believe it when I’ll be testing it.