Jaguar I-Pace Claimed To Be Faster Than A Tesla Model X

2 months ago by Eric Loveday 50

Production-Intent Jaguar I-Pace spotted testing – will arrive in the second half of 2018

We’re not sure which version of the Tesla Model X is being referred to, but the quote does indicate that the upcoming Jaguar I-Pace is “faster than Tesla.”

I-Pace In The Wild

Magna Steyr is the company behind much of the development and production of the Jaguar I-Pace – of which initial production validation just kicked off this month for deliveries in early 2018 (mid-2018 in the US). The Austrian company has been involved with the I-Pace project since its inception, in fact the speed at which the I-Pace is arriving is mostly credited to Magna Steyr.

Karl-Friedrich Stracke, president of vehicle technology and engineering at Magna Steyr, had the opportunity to recently test drive a pre-production I-Pace and he came away thoroughly impressed.

Stracke stated:

“The acceleration is unbelievable; it is faster than Tesla. You press the accelerator and it pushes you back into the seat. The steering is very agile and nimble and you don’t feel the mass of the car. The chassis performance is gorgeous. It’s unbelievably quiet. There is some fine-tuning going on with the suspension, but that’s normal work. I am 100 percent certain it will challenge a lot of cars on the market today.”

Assuming his comment is tied to the Model X and not the S, we can dive a little deeper into the numbers then. We suspect by “faster” Stracke actually means quicker, as in quicker from 0 to 60 mph than the X. Even the lowliest of Model X SUVs does 0 to 60 mph in 6 seconds, so the I-Pace is at least a sub-six-second-to-60-mph electric CUV.

The production I-Pace is set to go on sale in the U.S. in mid-2018. Pricing has not yet been announced, but estimates put the ~220+ mile electric CUV at around $70,000.

Source: AutoWeek

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50 responses to "Jaguar I-Pace Claimed To Be Faster Than A Tesla Model X"

  1. James says:

    All these new long-range EV’s are great, but still no national reliable network to take long trips (outside the West coast).

    1. CDAVIS says:

      James said: “…no national reliable network to take long trips…”
      ——

      …except for Tesla’s Supercharger Network & Tesla Destination Chargers (i.e. Hotels). It’s amazing to me that the traditional car makers seem a-ok with sitting back and letting Tesla creat for itself a massive competitive advantage on the charging front.

      1. CDAVIS says:

        861 Tesla Supercharger Stations with 5,655 Superchargers…and growing fast:

        https://www.tesla.com/supercharger

        1. CDAVIS says:

          Survey:
          When deciding wether to buy a specific fully electric car or not, how important is “DC fast charging” (aka “Level 3 charging”) capability for you?

          Survey Result:
          Over 80% say important

          Source:
          https://cleantechnica.com/2016/01/31/electric-car-buyers-hugely-attracted-to-tesla-supercharger-network/

          1. Tom S. says:

            Those responding did not currently own an EV, they honestly don’t know what they’re talking about. DC fast charging is not that useful for the vast majority of people with EVs, even the current long range crop.

            Spending $800+ in extra in vehicle charging equipment for the ability to use DC fast charging once maybe twice a year is a hard sell.

            1. Rob Stark says:

              People who currently live in the green car ghetto are generally clueless about the wants and demands of the average new car buyer.

              Telling new car buyers they are wrong and should buy POS compliance cars won’t cause mass adoption of EVs.

              1. ModernMarvelFan says:

                “Telling new car buyers they are wrong and should buy POS compliance cars won’t cause mass adoption of EVs.”

                The problem is that most new car buyers just say that Supercharger is way too slow at 150 miles for 30 minutes and gas station is only 5 minutes stop and everywhere.

                Those people won’t want electric anyway. So, it is increasingly smaller niche market. Even the so called 400K reservation is only a small drop in the bucket globally.

                There are plenty of people who buy SUVs but never drive more than 200 miles away from their house. But they can brag about how fast it is compared with other high end cars out there.

                1. Mikael says:

                  100 miles away, you often need to get back too.

                  But the whole idea of not having or needing DC fast charging capability is ridiculous.

                  All BEVs should of course come with DCFC as standard. And 200+ miles range.

                  Having crippled crappy BEVs doesn’t benefit anyone.

            2. floydboy says:

              If the alternative is going on long trips and only be able to charge slowly, then I’m thinking $800 is a bargain!

            3. Wayne says:

              I am seriously considering an EV. And I need to do a 260-mile round-trip (two hours each way) about twice a month, and on demand. So yes, lack of DC charging is a show-stopper.

              You are correct that those of us who worry about DC charging don’t own EVs. You just have cause and effect backwards: we don’t have EVs because non-DC charging is only useful at home (or a destination) and DC charging outside of Tesla’s network is sparse, poorly-maintained, often over-priced, and often an exercise in frustration like staying in a poorly-run youth hostel. (I’ve done a lot of research on this.)

              That “vast majority of EV owners” of which you speak is a tiny sliver of car owners, and until range and DC charging are up to snuff, it will remain a niche hobby. It’s a hobby that I’d like to indulge in, but it will save me no money over my current hybrid, and unless I break the bank and get a Tesla I’d have to suffer multiple days a month, and I’d have to worry about something I simply shouldn’t have to worry about on a trip.

              (It’s not like an EV will actually save me any money over my current hybrid, either.)

              1. Aaron says:

                Sounds like you’re a good candidate for a longer-range EV, like the Bolt EV or the upcoming LEAF.

                An EV will likely save you money over your hybrid, though potentially very little. Oil changes and maintenance, however, are something you have to take into account, along with your time to perform that maintenance. Your time is not free.

            4. paul smith says:

              Perception is what is important. If 80% think it is important and only Tesla offers it, Tesla gets the sales.

          2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

            “Survey Result:
            Over 80% say important”

            That’s the perception, mostly from those who don’t own an EV. Here’s the reality: 55% of PEV (Plug-in EV) owners say they have never used a public EV charger.

            Now, that’s not to say the perception is unimportant, because people make car buying decisions based on their perceptions, not necessarily on reality.

            But it seems that as people learn more about PEVs, a lot of them come to understand that on-the-go charging isn’t nearly as important as they thought it was.

        2. Martin Winlow says:

          Or a bit easier… http://www.supercharge.info
          MW

      2. James says:

        Long range EVs are great unless they cost $70,000 and average consumers cannot afford one.

        2 row crossovers don’t excite the masses like 3 row ones do. In fact, the whole idea of buying a crossover is utility and ease of hauling child car seats, strollers, bicycles and the like. You do that and you have to fold the rear seat. If you have 2 children, that’s just not going to work.

        So these high priced 2 rows are no real challenge to Model X. Why does nearly every auto publication lead their stories of i-Pace and e-Tron with, “Tesla Killer…”?!!!

        People are nuts.

        1. Terawatt says:

          Because millions are googling for Tesla news. Put the word in a headline and the article gets twice the traffic, generating twice the income. It’s not rocket science 😉

          1. Jay Cole says:

            I agree the term “Tesla killer” should never be used again as it is so overused, lol.

            But in this case Magna guy literally said, “…the acceleration is unbelievable; it is faster than Tesla”, so you’re gonna get those comps for sure.

            At least for our title, it’s bang on the quote…no “killing added”

      3. al says:

        Why is that amazing? Traditional car makers are OK with Tesla building a huge overhead load for itself while others build a network of fast charge CCS stations that their cars will be able to use, thus negating any perceived advantage of the Supercharger network. I’ve never used a Supercharger and I’m sure the other 90% of drivers that drive less than 50 mi/day don’t see it as a significant advantage to sway buying decisions.

        1. James says:

          Car buyers most often buy capability for the “what ifs” – “What if I want to tow a boat?”; “What if I want to drive to New York City?”; “What if I want to take it to the track sometime?”;”What if I want to go off road or I move to Vermont where it snows?”; etc. etc. etc..

          If a vehicle can’t go long distances conveniently, that is perceived as a deal killer.

          How many AWD SUVs go off road? The answer is – almost none. But people pay for what they believe they could use a car for. It’s just like we buy 3D televisions based upon hype and never use the feature.

    2. DJ says:

      And I don’t care one bit 😀

      I’ve said it before that I would much rather get a car for thousands less than be forced to pay thousands more for something I wouldn’t use.

      To each their own though.

      1. floydboy says:

        Forced to pay? Besides isn’t it better to have it available and not need it, than to need it and not have it available?

        1. DJ says:

          You forgot the other option of not having to need it and have extra money in your pocket!

          What, do you think Elon isn’t factoring the cost of the superchargers in to the cost of the car? Make no mistake. There is no free supercharging…

          Meanwhile if in the event of an emergency I could get by on non supercharging and have extra $ in my pocket 🙂

    3. Hart Ed says:

      We managed a relatively easy 8,000 mile drive across the US, and in the two years since then, the Tesla network has expanded quite a bit. Let’s hope that other manufacturers also build networks….or work with Tesla to expand the Supercharger network.

    4. Miggy says:

      Can the Jaguar I-Pace tow?

  2. Bul_gar says:

    What if Tesla make carbon fiber version till than? Probably they compare with the cheapest Model X

  3. James says:

    If Model Y were out right now selling for $40,000, automakers would be freaking out.

    1. William says:

      Their shareholders would be relieving themselves, in the #2 type fashion, with brick like formation.

      1. Blackseries says:

        Its not …… so they aren’t

        This is in September.

  4. Michael Will says:

    2018 EV not yet available faster than 2017 EV available since 2016. Guess what, the 2017 Model X is also already faster than 2016 Model X, so whats your point 🙂

    Still want the Jaguar to succeed, but this comparison is kind of pointless… maybe if they work with tesla and join the supercharger network they really got something cool.

  5. pjwood1 says:

    The quote makes it sound like Stacke is discovering a Tesla, or more simply, what high power electric drive and better weight placement are all about.

    That “poof” was a while ago, for many of us.

  6. William L. says:

    Yes, it’s pointless to compare how fast it can be, we all know EVs are quick.

    If I-Pace comes with a spare tire, I think it’s a bigger threat than it’s faster than Tesla.

  7. peetah says:

    i-pace manages took look worse than the model x…and i own a model x! lol

  8. Just_Chris says:

    Thank god, the model X was so sluggish….. wtf? I think it is great to see another car come to the party but really another $80k+ sports car is of little relevance at this stage. Zoe 40, model 3, bolt, leaf 2.0, volt and prime are the important vehicles for the next 24 months. Unless there is some serious discounting of sub par German offerings or the Chinese look beyond their own market the rest of the field looks pretty irrelevant.

    1. Terawatt says:

      Sure, it’s not the most important car to boost EV sales figures directly. But like the Tesla cars so far, it will help change perceptions of EV technology.

      And I happen to think it’s a really cool car! Much too expensive for my wallet, but maybe a used one down the road..? In any case it is the first truly modern Jaguar, which makes it a landmark car. And any new EV deserves coverage here.

  9. Carl says:

    Wayne…’needs to do 260miles once a month’ in his EV before he will consider buying an EV… Hey Wayne haven’t you ever heard of a RentaCar or RentaSUV or RentaTruck or UBER for that once a month trip???…simple huh… D-U-H!!!!!!

  10. Jack says:

    What’s that big hole in the Cars Front for??? 😉

    1. bogdan says:

      It’s for cooling the ICE!
      Uppps…

      1. Blackseries says:

        For cooling the battery!

        What’s the long hood on a Model S / 3 for fitting an ICE?

  11. Martin Winlow says:

    Can you buy one yet? No. Yawn!

    1. Blackseries says:

      Production started 10 days ago ….. so its out soon – for high end T Model 3 money.

  12. Adi says:

    I am not bothered about straight line speed.I hope I-pace is fun to drive unlike the model X.

    1. WARREN says:

      The Jaguar interior might be a nicer place to be in also.

      1. WARREN says:

        I just confirmed how nice the i-pace is inside. Just look at the rear seat detail and interior contours. Very nice.

        https://www.jaguarusa.com/all-models/i-pace-concept-car/index.html

        1. Aaron says:

          Those are pictures from the concept car. Expect the production car to be a bit more pedestrian.

  13. Eddie says:

    But will it be the safest SUV in the world like the Model X! Tesla set another benchmark!

    1. Mikael says:

      Hardly the safest SUV in the world. We will have to wait for a proper safety test like the Euro NCAP before knowing where the Model X falls.

  14. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    The article says:

    “Assuming his comment is tied to the Model X and not the S, we can dive a little deeper into the numbers then. We suspect by ‘faster’ Stracke actually means quicker, as in quicker from 0 to 60 mph than the X.”

    Wow, piling guess on top of assumption!

    Actually, my guess is that when the Magna Steyr exec said “speed” he meant exactly that. Given how Tesla has to keep work, work, working at shaving a tenth of a second off here and there, I would guess it’s easier to engineer a performance BEV with faster top speed than quicker 0-60 time.

    Of course that’s just a guess, but hey, my groundless speculation is every bit as good as the writer’s groundless speculation! 😉

  15. Steve says:

    Faster than a PARKED Tesla.

    1. GibsonRS says:

      Very lazy journalism, he was comparing the entry level Model S with the I-Pace (which will be cheaper) – So Model S 75. When the Model3 pricing is revealed a dual motor, top battery, performance version should about the same price as an I-Pace. You might actually be able to get the I-Pace first as they have already started to build them – and they only come with Dual motors.

  16. Frank Masek says:

    We are considering the Jaguar because it is stylish, not too large and quiet. However, it probably does not have the range to make it from Southern CA to Las Vegas, and does not have the Tesla charging. For the price, many other vehicles are available (e.g. Grand Cherokee Trackhawk which will replace my Grand Cherokee work vehicle). For those not hooked by the global warming hoax, the appeal of electric vehicles is based on the quiet, handling and vastly reduced maintenance requirements.

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