Hyundai IONIQ Electric Has A 28 kWh Battery, 105 Miles Real Range

4 months ago by Jay Cole 115

Hyundai IONIQ Electric Specs Released - And They Are Good...If This Was 2010

Hyundai IONIQ Electric Specs Released – And They Are Good…If This Was 2010

Not so long ago we heard from Europe that the Hyundai IONIQ could have up to 155 miles/250 km of range, not so long ago we heard from Hyundai that this next generation of all-electric vehicle would be special.

As it turns out, the Hyundai Electric (new name) is neither of those things…and we are more than a bit disappointed.

Hyundai IONIQ BEV Arrives Q3 In US, PHEV Version In Q4

Hyundai IONIQ BEV Arrives Q3 In US, PHEV Version In Q4

Data is now becoming available in South Korea on the all-electric car (full specs below), and it shows that the IONIQ “electric” is a fairly vanilla offering – another city EV, into a mass of city EVs already on the market.

If this was 2010 we would be excited about this car…but it is not.  It’s 2016.

The all-electric version of the IONIQ – named simply “electric”, which will be released in the US in August/September, comes equipped with a 28 kWh battery supplied by LG Chem (under the back seat), which is good for 169 km/105 miles of range in South Korea. We had earlier hoped the IONIQ would at least up the ante to 120 – 130 miles of range.

And as South Korea doesn’t have an overly ambitious rating system, like that of the aforementioned 155 mile range estimate in Europe, 105 miles is the real world range.

As a comparison, the Kia Soul EV is rated at 148 km/92 miles, and the new 2016/30 kWh LEAF at 172 km/107 miles – exactly the same as the US EPA rating.

Here are some other basic specs of interest:

  • Battery: 28 kWh – LG Chem
  • Top Speed: 150 km/h (93 mph)
  • 88kW/117 hp electric motor

The Hyundai IONIQ electric will come in two trim levels, starting from 40M won ($32,400 USD), with the premium trim (Q) from 43M won ($34,800 USD).

At first glance, it appears Hyundai’s best chance for success with the IONIQ electric will come if it can maintain (or reduce) pricing levels that it has set in its home market internationally, to become a low cost option in the future as it faces down many longer range, 2nd generation EV competitors.

Hyundai IONIQ (Hybrid) Alongside The Avante

Hyundai IONIQ (Hybrid) Alongside The Avante

Standard Features for all models:

Hyundai IONIQ Interior

Hyundai IONIQ Interior

Basic Items:

  • 16-inch wheels and Michelin tires
  • LED DRL
  • projection headlamps
  • LED auxiliary brake light
  • LED rear combination lamps
  • aerodynamic items (active air flap wheel air curtain, rear spoiler, etc.), aluminum bodywork (hood, tailgate, etc.)
  • 7-inch color LCD
  • artificial leather seats
  • paddle shifters (adjustable regenerative braking)

Safety:

  • body posture control (ESC)
  • chassis integrated control system (VSM)
  • Virtual Engine Sound System (pedestrian protection)
  • tire pressure warning equipment, tire repair kit
  • rear parking assist system
  • rear-view camera
Hyundai IONIQ

Hyundai IONIQ (Hybrid)

Convenience:

  • electronic shift lever (SBW)
  • electronic parking brake (EPB)
  • full auto air conditioner/heat pump system
  • auto light control
  • button start/smart key system
  • front seat heating coil seat
  • backseat 6:40 folding split seat

Multimedia:

  • Premium Audio (5-inch color LCD)
  • 6-speaker system
  • Bluetooth hands-free (speech recognition)
  • AUX & USB input

Upgraded Trim Level (Q) Adds These Items:

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Basic Items:

  • LED headlamps
  • chrome beltline moldings
  • chrome door handles
  • metallic pedals / foot rests
  • metal door scuff
  • rear center armrest

Convenience:

  • hot-wire steering wheel
  • ventilated front seats seats
  • driver’s seat lumbar support
  • automatic cruise control
  • front parking aid system
  • mobile phone wireless charging system

Multimedia:

  • 8 inch Smart Navigation (with Blue Link 2.0)
  • JBL premium sound (8 speakers)
  • external amplifier

Individual Packages:

Smart navigation infotainment package:  8 inches screen (including the blue link 2.0), JBL Premium Sound (8 speakers),  External Amplifier

Optional Premium Leather And Sunroof Available On Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Optional Premium Leather And Sunroof Available On Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Passenger seat package: rear seat heating coil,  rear seat air vents

Premium leather seat package:  includes power seats

Comfort package: hot-wire steering wheel, cell phone wireless charging system, etc. 

Safety package: automatic emergency braking system (AEB), Advanced Smart Cruise Control (ASCC), driving auxiliary steering system (LKAS)

Sunroof Package

Hat Tip to Adrian!

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117 responses to "Hyundai IONIQ Electric Has A 28 kWh Battery, 105 Miles Real Range"

  1. Martin says:

    The specs especially the 28 kwh battery is really disappointing…
    I think Hyundai has taken the wrong decisions

    1. RexxSee says:

      yup! as I always say : NO real competition among the members of the petro-auto cartel.

    2. Philip d says:

      And 117 hp offering a rather dull driving experience.

    3. evcarnut says:

      Another carb compliant Participant 0ut “TO DISCOURAGE EVs” From being Built And/0r Sold.. Because of Big 0il & Their DEEP Pockets……………

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    4. R.S. says:

      Just another car built to the Leaf. Possibly the last one ever, since every next gen car we know of, next Leaf, next eGolf will be about 200 miles. Even the updated i3 should be closer to 150 miles than 100 miles. I really hoped that the Ioniq would make a difference, but Hyundai is just the last one to enter a game thats about to end. That car will flop so much, in about two years. I just hope for them they reused the Soul drivetrain and won’t loose lots of money on the Ioniq electric.

  2. Texas FFE says:

    The Advanced Smart Cruise Control might give it an edge over some of rivals if the others don’t start offering some autonomous features.

  3. Nate says:

    Disappointing.

  4. Wesley says:

    The new Volt will have advanced cruise control. You wonder why the penny pinchers won this decision to put a smaller battery in the car. Why not put 32kwh and at least be at the top of the pack range wise until the Bolt arrives? Bummer.

    1. evcarnut says:

      IT’S ALL AB0UT “CARB COMPLIANCY” The last thing the 0ld “ICE” Makers want to build is a good EV ….To rival the gas engine…their Heart’s 0n “ICE”

  5. Ralf says:

    If this was 2010 we would be excited about this car…but it is not. It’s 2016.

    That’s a little unfair. The e-Golf for example with similar range has been launched in June 2014. There is no car available presently with a similar pricing with a much higher range – all are just announcements (Bolt etc.)

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Well, we weren’t excited about the e-Golf’s debut/range in 2014 either.

      “…the e-Golf has a LEAF-like 24.2 kWh battery, the comparison to high trim level Nissan (SL) from $35,120 has to be made. On that basis, the car is not unreasonable at all – however, we still find it disappointing there isn’t a more entry-level price variant offered”

      “…we know Nissan can breath easy when it comes to VW taking any sales of significance away from their LEAF, does the e-Golf appeal to you as a ‘premium’ short range EV option?”

      We should note that the IONIQ electric price in South Korea (from 32.4k to 34.8k) is far from a guarantee in the US. Even if it holds, and the car debuts at ~33k in September, that isn’t very competitive heading into the Bolt EV in December, and LEAF 2.0 in Q2 2017, as well as the Golf, i3, etc upgrades. and the Model 3 in “late 2017”

      In addition, we also have the late model refresh of the Ford Focus EV north of 100 miles this fall, and the last year of the 1st gen LEAF is already on the market at 107 miles, of which we are already seeing those discounted down under $30k/$299month leases (from $34,200 base pricing)

      One has to remember, this is a brand new offering – product cycles in this segment are intended to last 5-6 years at least, while the majority of the city EVs on the market today are heading into upgrades. It is an underwhelming result at best…especially considering the implied hype of longer range/new technology that Hyundai had been representing.

      1. SparkEV says:

        True about pricing in Korea vs US. There are different incentives at play. SparkEV is 39.9M Won in Korea (~$33K), $26K in US, $24K in Canada/Mexico. I suspect (hope?) IONIQ will cost less in US, possibly closer to $25K ($15K in CA post subsidy).

        1. cmg186 says:

          As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, that is NOT the Canadian price of the Spark EV. The Spark EV starts at $33,945 in Canada.

          http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/vehicles/chevrolet/spark-ev/overview?tsfsc=1456031918763

          1. SparkEV says:

            All $ are in US dollar. Convert Canadian $34K, and it’s roughly $24K USD.

            1. cmg186 says:

              Thank you. I wondered if that was what you meant after I had made my post. In CDN funds, the Spark EV isn’t nearly as good of a value proposition as it is in the US. Most car prices are not just a straight conversion of funds here, and the Spark is nearly $10,000 more than the i-MiEV is currently selling for, for example.

      2. Jean-François says:

        Jay, Leaf 2.0 in Q2 2017, is this Insideevs’prediction?

        1. Jay Cole says:

          No, we hate trying make predictions on stuff like this (it is always too optimistic, lol). That is the last verified date from Nissan/ via Power 88 disclosures.

          That being said, the company has been “mum” on the subject now for about a ~year…which one would expect as the date draws closer in relation to current sales

      3. Ralf says:

        Yes, you’re right. I have to admit it. Just try to think positive … the more EV players are in the market the better it is … even if they come a bit behind.

    2. Rich says:

      The VW e-Golf is a compliance car with an EPA range of 83 miles.

      It’ll be interesting to see what the EPA rating is for the Hyundai IONIQ. Based on the Nissan leaf kWh/mile EPA range, the IONIQ would be at 100 miles EPA range.
      Although, the range really doesn’t matter if the IONIQ ends up being another compliance States sold car.

      1. mustang_sallad says:

        The eGolf was the 8th best selling EV in the US last year and is frequently the number 1 seller in a number of key European markets – not a compliance car. There’s a difference between an EV with outdated specs and an EV that is only being made to comply with certain rules.

        1. Rich says:

          A compliance car is a car only sold in CARB compliance States. The VW e-Golf is not sold nationwide, it is only sold in compliance States. While it might be a great option in Europe, it’s nothing more than a Compliance car in the USA.

          1. EV Dave says:

            Is “compliance car” as derogatory term?

            If so, I will assume that you financed or paid cash for an EV and refused all tax incentives, carpool lane stickers, preferential utility rates, etc.

            1. Ash09 says:

              I think it does take a negative connotation because of the lack of availability in places other than some very specific regions, usually California.

              Additionally, said cars will also be sold in very limited numbers, usually just enough to comply with CARB (California Air Resources Board) policies.

              So for instance, I hear the Spark EV is a great little car, but I can’t buy it in the Midwest. Nor can I buy an E-Golf here either.

              Regarding the article, the only way I can see it selling somewhat well is if they price it low enough, like say $26-28k before the tax credit. If they price it in the low $30k range, I doubt it’ll do very well once the 200 mile+ range Chevy Bolt shows up.

              1. Rich says:

                Exactly. Thanks.

            2. Rich says:

              “Is “compliance car” as derogatory term?”
              Yes, “compliance car” should be derogatory.

              Some people relate this term with the poor efforts of car manufacturers to make an electric vehicle. For example, some manufacturers stuffed batteries everywhere in their gas model car to make it an “EV”. I understand why some people have developed this understanding of the term “compliance car”.

              A compliance car is a car made to meet the California Air Resources Board (CARB) mandates. The mandates are relatively simple. If an auto manufacturer wants to continue selling automobiles in the CARB State(s), a certain percentage of their vehicles sold must be ZEV (Zero Emmissions Vehicle). It gets a little more complicated because each car gets a credit. The type of ZEV dictates how much credit it generates. These credits are referred to in the forums as CARB credit or ZEV credit.
              Another common misunderstanding is that CARB is only for California. There are several States that have adopted part or all of the CARB mandates.

              Why is “compliance car” derogatory? It means that an auto manufacturer, like VW, is building and selling the minimum amount of BEVs they can get away with in the USA. VW makes the e-Golf which appears to be a decent BEV. However, VW refuses to sell the e-Golf in all States in the USA. They will only sell the e-Golf in the States that have CARB mandates. IMO, companies that are engaged in compliance car sales tactics aren’t serious about BEVs and should be boycotted by everyone in this USA until the manufacturer sells the BEV nationwide.

              1. SparkEV says:

                Ioniq will be sold in South Korea, NOT a US compliance state, so that’s NOT a compliance car. Why are you calling it as such? In fact, same argument can be made for eGolf (sold in Europe), SparkEV (sold in 3 other countries besides US).

                Don’t change the definition of “compliance” to anything you can’t get; it’s cars made / sold strictly for compliance (ie, only in compliance states), and there are very few that fit the definition: Honda Fit, Fiat500e, etc.

                1. Rich says:

                  I didn’t say the IONIQ was a compliance car. Go back and read the posts again.

                  We will have to agree to disagree on the compliance definition. At this point, I’m focused on getting the wide array of BEVs available to people in California offered to everyone in the entire country (USA).

                  What’s your focus?

                  1. SparkEV says:

                    Sorry. Got you confused with others who say Ioniq will be nothing more than compliance. I don’t know what you mean by “focus”.

                    However, definition for compliance car should be held as such. Limited availability cars are just that; limited availability, not just for compliance. Lumping them together with true compliance cars like EV1, FitEV, 500e is wrong.

                    As for derogatory, I hold EV that doesn’t have DCFC, even as option, as derogatory, regardless of it being compliance cars. All compliance cars and many limited availability cars fit into non-DCFC capable cars.

    3. jerryd says:

      The 30kwhr, 107 mile Leaf which likely will go farther, is out.
      They made a big mistake not coming out without an optional 150+ mile range at least.

      1. mr. M says:

        i hardly call 107 miles compared to 105 miles (estimated) much higher…

  6. Alex says:

    I think in home market it should be overpriced because there are 15.000 dollar federal subsidiary.
    So why they should not offer it for 27.000 dollar, with good equipment. I would prefer Ioniq over Bolt if it is over 10.000 cheaper. But best would be around 33.000 Dollar and 45 kWh, that’s the gold middle.

  7. MTN Ranger says:

    I was right.

    1. Seth says:

      Yeah, if the base is a hybrid/petrol car you can only stuff so much battery in it.

      If you extend that line, it means the Kia Niro could well be the next Soul EV, but still have similar range. meh.

  8. Fred Borloo says:

    Ermmm, first, …. The Bolt is not an announcement,… It is well and truly there!
    Now, I wouldn’t personally buy a Bolt, for many reasons, but I had hoped the car would have set a benchmark.
    Why on earth would anyone spend the same sort of money for a car with less range, and less performance!
    I think the main thing here is that, taken the battery is tucked under the rear seat, the Ioniq was clearly not designed as a pure EV(it wasn’t!).
    In order to make a truly practical FULL BEV, you have to design the car as a full EV from the word go. Converting gas cars or trying to make a compromise (notable exception the i3 REX, wich actualy was designed as an ev first), does-not-work!

    1. Ralf says:

      It’ll take a year until you really have the Bolt in your garage. But of course once the Bolt is here, all other EV car makers – Hyundai included – will have to wrap themselves up warmly !

      1. Rich says:

        It’ll be fun to watch how the other manufacturers counter the Chevy Bolt.
        I’m thinking by July 2017, the 100 mile range cars will sell new for $17K after rebate.

        1. Dave K. says:

          I’ve been thinking the same thing, it happened with the 62 mile Mitsubishi when the 84 mile Leaf came out. How much will a 30kwhr Leaf sell for when you can go down the street and buy a 60kwhr Bolt with almost twice the hp?

    2. miggy says:

      Hi Fred,
      I’m thinking that I may buy a Bolt but was interested in your comment: “Now, I wouldn’t personally buy a Bolt, for many reasons.”
      Could you please elaborate on your reasons as it is either the Bolt or the Tesla 3 for me at this stage.

      1. Alok says:

        I don’t know his reasons.
        Mine would be basically one: Model 3.

        – About the same price (maybe less!?)
        – Better, probably, in all respects, maybe with the exception of head-room in the back seats (we’ll see)
        – Supercharger access
        – Support a company fully committed to the rEVolution, instead of one that, though having put lots of energy and wit into designing this car (and the Volt) is still opposing Tesla’s right to sell directly (at least in Michigan). Quite shameful.
        – Different feeling… (as a consequence of the above). And, at the end, that’s what counts most, at east for me.

        1. Rick Danger says:

          Well said Alok!

  9. Jonas says:

    I drive a Zoe and must say that the 26kWh pack is quite sufficient in most cases.

    I speculate that Hyundai have chosen to offer an electric version of their platform without significant changes to the floor in order to minimize investments.

    The fuel tank area would provide enough volume for this amount of energy providing they are using the same cells as the Bolt. Upside being that the price is kept lower and they have a chance to earn money on their electric version.

    I can agree that it might not be competitive compared to next generation EV:s though but perhaps a good entry level in to the EV world.

    1. pjwood1 says:

      I’m an expert at eeking every drop from a Volt’s 16.5kwh. I have a 85kwh BEV, too. AT 28kwh, and no engine, I’d be horrified.

    2. Jonas says “I drive a Zoe and must say that the 26kWh pack is quite sufficient in most cases.”, so that says two important things: , you likely live in Europe, and the statement missed the all important qualifier: “for me” meaning, for you, driving in your area if Europe, the 26 kWh pack is sufficient!

      Would it be for someone in Colorado, or Even in Ontario? How about Texas, or Saskatchewan?

      The issue is range versus charging infrastructure, versus charge rate! The bolt might be better on range than a Leaf, but neither if them have access to a free or paid charging network as wide spread as the Suoercharging network, and so, for this car, the same elements apply.

  10. Weii, inspite of the less than stellar range specs, other things like range loss in the winter and over time, come to mind. If made available in all states in the US, and all provinces in Canada, it could fill a niche with those who don’t like the looks of the LEAF! Partciularly if they get the price point right, and have a dealer network that WANTS to sell them! (Hint: they steer buyers TO them, instead of AWAY From them! AND make 24 hour L2 AC and DC QC available at dealers!)

    Sometimes it is not just the car that people buy into, but the support and respect, that closes the sale.

  11. James says:

    I’ll wait for the Doric or Corinthian.

    1. Philip d says:

      Or Composite.

    2. Steven says:

      +1 for the classes of columns.

    3. Ziv says:

      +1 on the column types.
      For some reason Ricardo Montalban is talking in the back of my mind, though. Can’t quite make it out…
      😉

  12. Nichen says:

    Sigh…(Elon Musk-style)

  13. Andrew says:

    Disappointing. The only way this thing succeeds in a post-Bolt world is if its MSRP is under $30k with lots of standard features.

    Hyundai brought a knife to a gun fight.

  14. This car is likely a response to the lackluster hydrogen car sales.

    Llike many other auto manufacturers , Hyundai must comply with California Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) regulations.

    With less than 100 total hydrogen car sold, hydrogen cars are not getting the ZEV credits that they so dearly need.

    So, like virtually every car manufacturer, Hyundai produced a car that meets the regulation, hence this car.

    It would be foolish for them to build a car that exceeded the regulations, unless of course they plan to compete actively in the electric vehicle market. That does not appear to be the case for either Hyundai or Kia.

    1. jstack6 says:

      Tony, Excellent summary and logic. I think you know exactly what they are doing. Thanks for that note.

  15. I don’t see any data on the quick charge port, if any.

    Jay?

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Sorry Tony, not seeing any info yet on that. One assumes it has to be CHAdeMO, we’ll update as soon as we see of course.

      1. Anton Wahlman says:

        I don’t know anything, but it wouldn’t surprise me if for the European and North American markets, it gets CCS instead of ChaDeMo.

        1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

          Kia Soul EV is CHAdeMO, so given that this is a compliance car I’d expect it to be CHAdeMO as well.

        2. It wouldn’t surprise me if it had no DC charge port at all, like most compliance cars. Then they don’t have to worry about four different public charging systems so far:

          1) CHAdeMO (worldwide)

          2) CCS-Combo1 (US only)

          3) CCS-Combo2 (EU only)

          4) GB/T (China only)

          1. SparkEV says:

            If it doesn’t come with DCFC, I hope quickchargepower.com can offer Jdemo. In fact, I hope they (you) can offer Jdemo for all EV without DCFC. Fiat 500e would be a decent small car with JDemo, probably increase its resale value.

          2. It would surprise me if, without DCQC, they sold more Ioniq than Tucson FCV.

            It’s going to be a very short list of BEVs without DCQC going forward, and I predict they’ll all have be very heavily discounted to get them to move off the lot.

            More so than in the early years, DCQC will mean something in 2017-2022.

  16. Stuart22 says:

    Why are people so thumbs down about this equivalent to the 107 mile LEAF which was enthusiastically welcomed by IEVs not so long ago?

    1. Ralf says:

      because we all live in the future. Who is interested in unsatisfactory present tense

      1. Jay Cole says:

        The 107 mile LEAF was an unexpected upgrade (heading into summer 2015) in the last model year of the current car before heading into the next generation, and was the first affordable “city EV” to break 100 miles of range and also be available in 2015. We had previously assumed the 84 mile edition would limp along right into 2nd gen for the longest time.

        Now, if it was the next gen LEAF that was being introduced as a 107 miler, you can be well assured the disappointment would have reached far and wide.

    2. Ash09 says:

      I think at this point in time, we are expecting that any new pure EV’s that come out would be at least in the 150 mile+ EPA rated EV range.

      Instead it’s really no better than what most other competitors are offering, and will also likely be priced in the low to mid $30k range.

      Which means when the Chevy Bolt comes out, with its at least 200 miles EPA rated range (will likely be higher, I’m guessing 210-225 miles), and costing about the same price as these other low ranged EV’s, people will more likely choose the car that has the higher range.

      That’s not to say short ranged EV’s don’t have a niche. But they’re going to have to cost around $20-25k pre-tax credit to really stand a chance in the coming era of more affordable, longer ranged EV’s.

      1. ffbj says:

        Seems likely, but how hard is it really? Can’t you just toss some more batteries in the vehicle?
        I think the problem lies in earlier decisions whereas the forward thinking of what do people really need, 100 mi +, would suffice, while others were thinking and acting on what people really wanted 200 miles +.

    3. Rich says:

      Stuart22, the IONIQ would have been a great car if it was released nationwide 2 to 4 years ago. Unfortunately for Hyundai, within 6 months of releasing the IONIQ there will be competition with double the range in the mid $30K price range.
      This means Hyundai Ioniq is going to have a horrible problem selling unless they price it far cheaper than the 200+ mile range cars that will be on the market.
      The 200+ mile range cars in 2017 will be the Chevy Bolt, the next generation Nissan, and Gold willing the Tesla Model 3.

  17. Texas FFE says:

    I have never seriously considered buying a Hyundai but I have been surprised by the amount of market penetration the manufacturer has been able to achieve. I have also been surprised by the variant and quality of the models produced. Although I’m not very excited about this EV offering Hyundai could yet prove to be a very strong competitor in the EV market and I applaud their efforts.

  18. Ct200h says:

    I would think it will Be chademo equipped.

    At least it’s another in the chademo camp.

    I’m not interested anyway range is just to short.
    Sorry Hyundai.

    1. Since Kia is CHAdeMO worldwide, and since CHAdeMO is now one of two official EU charging standard, as well as the only Japanese standard, as well as the leader in North America, certainly CHAdeMO is the easy choice.

      Yes, the Germans have and are trying diligently to make CCS the only game within Germany, and China seems to be stuck with GB/T.

  19. David Murray says:

    105 miles range is not a bad proposition, if the price is right. It’s still better than the majority of BEVs available right now.

    1. Just_chris says:

      +1 it is all about the price, if this is a $25k car then it’s really exciting, if its $35k then it is a welcome addition but really not much to crow about. Same with the outlander. The model 3 will be great but it will still be expensive, we need some basic economy options as well as the 200 mile ev’s

      1. Rich says:

        Another interesting option would be for them to offer the 28kWh pack on the PHEV version. Give the car an all electric range of 100 miles before switching to gas. They could offer this in the $35K price range and go head to head with the Chevy Volt.

        1. kosee says:

          I didn’t want to respond to this topic but this is nonsense. Sure they can make a PHEV out of this with 28kwh battery. You just take away the backseat! There’s a reason why PHEVS don’t have the same range as BEVS, it’s because something’s gotta give, I just doesn’t fit or would be too expensive.

          1. kosee, the BMW i3 Rex, has about 9 miles less EV range than the BEV only variant, with about 75 miles vs. 84 miles, and both have the same battery pack. so asking for this to be a 100 mile AER as a PHEV does not seem so far fetched!

            Now, if they could price natch this car with the Mitsubishi iMiEV, that would put some pressure on that car! Especially if they gave this 9.6-10.9 kW AC charging, and demo’d it charging at 100 kW CHAdeMO, like the Soul EV! If they wanted to be really creative, ththey could make a CCS to CHAdeMO accessory to sell!

            If these batteries could handle 120-135 kW charging, and they partnered with Tesla to give it supercharger access with a Tesla socket on board, they could jump into a leadership spot in the EV world as fast as they could make them! Would they want that?

  20. Ash09 says:

    Sub-100 miles of EV range isn’t that great right now since more affordable, longer ranged EV’s are literally right around the corner, unless it has a gas engine backup like the Chevy Volt does.

    Otherwise it’s a few years too late to make much of an impact. Like the article mentioned, had this car of came out back in 2010 or 2011, it would’ve been pretty nice.

    But with the Chevy Bolt, Gen 2 Nissan Leaf, and the Tesla Model 3 all coming out in the next few years, unless these low ranged EV’s are priced at $20-25k pre-tax credit, there’s probably not going to be much demand for them.

  21. IQ130 says:

    I think the good news is that LG Chem can make a 28 kWh battery that fits under the back seat. This should make an affordable short (mid) range electric car on an existing platform possible.

    1. David Murray says:

      That’s a good point. With those packs getting smaller and lighter, it will be easier to convert existing platforms to EV or PHEV.

  22. Bloggin says:

    So the new for 2016/2017 Hyundai Electric will offer the same LG Chem battery pack as the new for 2013 and refreshed for 2017 Ford Focus Electric(with a next gen model due MY2019).

  23. Fabian says:

    105 miles? This thing is DOA. Sheesh…

    Everyone has their sights set on the Bolt & Model 3 now…..

  24. John says:

    Wow. Really disappointing for sure. It’s hard to believe, but it’s looking more and more like Chevy’s Bolt is going to truly eclipse all these mediocre EV offerings in a big way by getting most things right, range included and above all.

    1. David Murray says:

      The thing is, the Volt already eclipses all other PHEVs and yet people still buy the other models. So apparently range isn’t everything.

      1. p-run says:

        I think in BEV world range is everything. And price of course. 🙂

        1. pjwood1 says:

          Agree. Tesla, who’s genuinely selling BEVs, went from 40, to 60, then 70kwh, as its base offering. At that, I’m still impressed how some would give up 85kwh, to pick up AWD and save $5k???. Can’t do RWD big battery any more. So, maybe I’m all wet.

          Think of 105mi? What BMW could do with 85kwh, and the i3 drive train on a highway (few inertial losses)? 350 miles? OEM will power is far behind technology and price.

      2. John says:

        1. Volt is not a BEV.

        2. Volt resolves the range issue by using petrol, which some of us want to get away from.

        3. Longer range may not be everything, but it’s certainly the biggest thing on BEV drivers’ must have list.

        4. Bolt is proof that manufacturers can overcome the BEV range issue at a somewhat affordable cost. That more of them aren’t doing this is a real shame.

  25. Strohm says:

    What about charging?

  26. Adam says:

    Well, looks like a normal car and has a nicely syled interior, so their are some positives if you don’t like the look of a leaf! Would like to see the platform layout, because it sounds like an ICE chassis compromise to me. Hurry up with the Model 3 please.

  27. R.S. says:

    I said it on the last Ioniq article on insideevs, the only way for them to make it kind of a good EV, would be a low price.

    1. protomech says:

      It may still come in at a relatively low price.

      The existing Soul and LEAF (US, before subsidies) pricing looks like this:

      – 24 kWh Nissan LEAF S, 87 miles EPA, 80 kW – $29k
      – 30 kWh Soul EV, 93 miles EPA, 81 kW – $32k
      – 30 kWh Nissan LEAF SV, 107 miles EPA, 80 kW – $34k

      The Soul EV is priced at 42 million won in South Korea, so the 40 million won IONIQ might start at $30-31k (105 mile EPA, 88 kW).

      This would substantially undercut all models of the LEAF (LEAF S with charge kit is $31k, and like Soul EV the IONIQ EV will almost certainly come standard with CHAdeMO). The IONIQ also has the advantage of more conventional styling, as well as being a newer design than the “lame duck” LEAF, which is somewhat dated and due for replacement.

      Furthermore, if it can reduce the price quickly (higher volume due to platform sharing with hybrid and plugin-hybrid variants), then it can perhaps carve out some space underneath the incoming rush of 2nd generation EVs at $35-40k+.

      There’s certainly room in the marketplace for a 100-mile EV, if the price and timing is right. If Hyundai doesn’t get these right – if they can’t create price differentiation from the 2nd generation EVs, or if they can’t get 50 state US distribution in place before the 2nd generation EVs arrive – then it may well be dead on arrival.

      1. R.S. says:

        If your guesstimations work out and they sell it in all 50 states, it might work for some time, like you said. But they will need to decrease the price once the 200 mile EV market has some competition. Because I don’t think the next Leaf won’t try to undercut 35k, nor will GM let the Bolt sit too much above the competition and then there is VW with their platform strategy and lets not forget Tesla. In my opinion Hyundai has made a mistake, by building a 100 mile EV, they should have gone to a safe 140-160, pricing it below the Bolt, but showing that it is a next gen EV.

  28. Jychevyvolt says:

    What a let down. I was hoping for 150 miles.

    Why don’t manufacturers offer battery range options. 100, 125, 150, 175, 200 miles.

  29. fcuk_IT says:

    I’m sorry, but I refuse to believe the information provided here.

    Woong-chul Yang, Vice Chairman i Hyunday Motor Group has been quoted by Norwegian mag. Bil (Car) saying that the Ioniq BEV will have at least 250Km range, and that it will have conciderably better range than the Kia Soul Ev. Also, the test drive done by the journo confirmed that the engine power felt like it was in the range ~200hp

    1. R.S. says:

      The new 30kWh Leaf has 250km range in the NEFZ, while the Kia Soul has 200km. So its considerably better than the Soul and if you are used to ICEs an 117 hp electric motor can feel pretty quick.

      1. fcuk_IT says:

        According to this article, 250Km is NOT the range. That is not a considerable jump from the Soul, which is why I question this article.

        Actually, I will not be surprised if the numbers in the article are for the PHEV.

        1. Jay Cole says:

          Unfortunately, these numbers are direct from Hyundai on the launch of the car in South Korea (complete with comparisons to other EVs – such as the Samsung/Renault product that has been doing decently well there)

          There is even some talk/boasting about the limited room Hyundai had to work with just putting the batteries under the back seat, as the trunk was not usable.

        2. R.S. says:

          “Not so long ago we heard from Europe that the Hyundai IONIQ could have up to 155 miles/250 km of range”

          And 25% is a considerable jump, isn’t it? Imagine Tesla would increase the range of their highest range Model S to 360 miles(from 288). Wouldn’t that be a considerable jump in range? I would say it is. Or imagine you getting a 25% raise. 25% is quite the increase, if you think about it.

    2. Martin says:

      Yes, it seems NEFZ (European Standard)

    3. Bro1999 says:

      http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160221000344&RURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F#jyk

      169 km = 105 miles, straight from a Korean news source.
      To think the Ioniq EV could have rivaled the BOLT’s range was probably unrealistic. Still disappointing though.

  30. disappointed says:

    What a waste of time this car is. And what a STUPID way to introduce it to the world! First they jack up expectations and let a people wait and wait and wait before they tell us what the specs actually are, and then they reveal they’re going to offer us another LEAF six years too late, and at pretty much the same time that cars with DOUBLE the range and performance are hitting the streets (the Bolt, of course).

    Within two years of this car having debuted there will be a LEAF, an e-Golf, at least one BMW, one Chevrolet, one OPEL, and one Renault car on the market with twice the range. Not to mention a Tesla with access to a large and free supercharger network.

    This isn’t a failure to plan, but planning to fail.

  31. William says:

    OMG Yawn why is everyone doing the same thing? People who think 100 miles range is enough should actually drive an EV for a year. (With a 30 mile commute each way, and seasonal changes) 150 miles actual range would be comfortable, but the only company other than Tesla to do it was Toyota with the RAV4 EV, (2012-2014) which had a 42 kWh battery. And remember Tesla discontinued the 40 kWh version of the Model S because they considered 60 kW to be the minimum required to satisfy the needs of most customers.

    1. David Murray says:

      Tesla is different. They make a car for rich people. Those who could afford the 40 Kwh version could most likely also afford a 60 or 85. So naturally people were willing to pay extra. As somebody who owns an 85 mile Leaf, I can honestly say I’d pay a little extra to get 105 miles. But I’m not sure I’d pay much more for any extra range above that. 85 is nearly enough now. If we had better charging infrastructure in Texas, 85 might be just fine.

    2. fcuk_IT says:

      I commute 60miles each way daily, with an i3, on a freeway.

      Done it with the Kia Soul Ev for about a year, and have done about four months with the i3 now.

      1. Rich says:

        Given the Kia Soul EV, I assume you’re in a warm climate like CA or GA?

        1. fcuk_IT says:

          Cold-ish, Norway.

  32. SparkEV says:

    Contrary to many negativity here, pricing will decide if this sucks or not. Given that it’s similar to Korean SparkEV pricing in Korea, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s priced as US SparkEV in US: about $25K.

    Then post subsidy in CA would be $15K (about half the price of Bolt), much cheaper than Corollas and Sentras, even cheaper than mid option SparkGas, Mitsubishi Mirage, etc. If they build enough at right pricing, it could become a game changer in low end or “my second car is EV” market. That’s a big IF they will try to make it a success with right pricing.

    1. Bro1999 says:

      As the Ioniq platform was designed for a hybrid, PHEV, and BEV, you would hope Hyundai cut enough costs to bring the selling price down. That’s the 1 trump card they have left.

  33. Steven says:

    It might do well as a car-sharing fleet car, but for the price, that range is a killer for me.

  34. Leaf Owner says:

    A full EV car launched in 2016 HAS to be better than this. It will be a relic in a few months when the Bolt comes out….

    1. kubel says:

      ::Yawn::

      $32,500 for a 28kWh EV in September 2016. It’s nice to see range come up and price come down, but I’m not particularly enthused.

      But I have to keep telling myself that the Bolt will be $5000 more expensive than this car. And that extra $5000 might be too much for the average driver.

      1. Tent says:

        Not when you consider that the Bold is virtually maintenance free and costs pennies on the dollar to run. Most people will gladly a bit extra to get the benefits of an EV.

  35. Paul says:

    I bought a Kia Soul EV last June. Apart from Tesla is was the EV with the best range then and I really needed the extra kilometers. It has a true 200 km range for me (going from 100% to 0%), so if you do long distance, fast charge to 94% (100% is impossible) and do the next charge at 10%, you can go 170 km between charges. Now, in winter, it’s not much lower since I mostly only heat my seat and my steering wheel.

    In France, if you use it for more then only home > work > kids (I travel with it, since I am a travel photographer) the Soul EV is JUST enough, but I would like more range. In Italy, lacking fast chargers, you really NEED more range. However, in countries like Switzerland and Holland with lots of rather-fast and fast chargers, the Kia can do any kind of driving that you would do with an ICE or PHEV.

    So if the price of the Ionic is attractive, it could do well in countries where the Bolt would be overkill, like Holland or Switzerland.

    But then most people like to go on holiday with their car as well and then even the Dutch and the Swiss need a Bolt to go and enjoy Italy…

  36. Murrysville EV says:

    What a disappointment. I thought Hyundai/Kia was getting serious about EVs, but I guess not.

    Even assuming this is a 50-state car, the EV version will get trounced in the market.

    I was really hoping for a Niro EV, but now my choices are limited to the hybrid or PHEV. I don’t need another short-range EV that depreciates >70% in 3 years.

  37. BraveLilToaster says:

    What? Nobody’s complaining about how it’s ugly. Maybe that’s supposed to be its competitive edge – that it’s not bug-eyed like the Leaf or has the odd styling of the i3, or a jellybean like the iMiEV.

    But then, we already have the VW eGolf.

  38. Bloggin says:

    “The Hyundai IONIQ electric will come in two trim levels, starting from 40M won ($32,400 USD), with the premium trim (Q) from 43M won ($34,800 USD).”

    All that will matter is the lease rate. Especially now when the EV consumer knows that the 200+ mile, $35k Model 3 is on it’s way, and they don’t want to be stuck with a quickly depreciating sub 200 mile EV.

  39. Mark says:

    If Electric Vehicle with:

    1) Price > USD 40000
    2) Range < 300 miles

    Tesla model 3 can just ignore it

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