Hyundai IONIQ Electric To Go On Sale In U.S. This Week

2 months ago by Eric Loveday 69

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Mike O’Brien, vice president-product planning for Hyundai Motor America, has confirmed that the IONIQ Electric will go on sale this week in the U.S.

The automaker had long-promised that “Winter” would mark the starts of sales for the IONIQ Electric in the U.S. (that is, after a couple of previous delays from the initial target of “Summer” of 2016) , and with this week still being winter, it seems Hyundai will hold to that promise.

Hyundai IONIQ Electric Marina Blue

O’Brien’s confirmation of the IONIQ Electric’s arrival came to us via Ward’s Auto. The publication states:

“It [Hyundai] retails hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions of the Sonata, but next week it will launch U.S. sales of its new Ioniq hybrid and all-electric cars. O’Brien is bullish on their potential.”

Quoting O’Brien:

“Our focus was on developing a great compact car that happens to be electrified. There were around 1.1 million buyers who shopped for an EV last year, but because of cost or maintenance or durability…or that they felt the car was too underpowered…they didn’t buy one.”

“We are offering a no-excuse electrified vehicle that measures up to compact vehicles in the segment.”

Hyundai IONIQ Lineup Release schedule for US … sad faces for the plug-in hybrid model

Hyundai will take a soft-launch approach with IONIQ Electric. O’Brien says that a bigger marketing campaign and more widespread distribution will get underway in March 2017.

No sales target has been announced.

The plug-in hybrid version of IONIQ is now expected to go on sale in the U.S. in September 2017.

Some IONIQ Electric specs include:

  • 135.4 electric miles in the city
  •  110 electric miles on the highway
  • 124 electric miles in combined driving (via a ~28 kWh battery)
  • City efficiency is listed at 150 MPGe
  • Highway is 122 MPGe
  • Combined is 136 MPGe

These results are well above the automaker’s expected combined rating of 125 MPGe and in fact make IONIQ Electric the most efficient car in the U.S. It even beats the updated 133 MPGe rating of the Toyota Prius Prime.

Source: Ward’s Auto

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71 responses to "Hyundai IONIQ Electric To Go On Sale In U.S. This Week"

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Like with the Optima PHV last month, the “soft launch” means that the car itself pretty much beats the site update/announcement on pricing. So ETA on that is ‘very soon’ I guess, lol.

    2. Jim Whitehead says:

      Tesla road warrior Bjorn Nyland tested and loves the Norway version of the Ioniq. He calls it the best economy EV he has ever driven, with a cheaper version of most of the features of the Tesla Model S. Its price in Norway is about 1/3 an S or X. (See his youtube video channel test just before Christmas 2016). The Ioniq even has a primitive autopilot that lets you take hands off the wheel for several seconds (though I wouldn’t risk it).

  1. Assaf says:

    No word on the MSRP(s) ?

  2. leafowner says:

    No way they get that from a 28 kWh battery.

    1. alohart says:

      I believe that’s 28 kWh of usable energy, not gross energy as is stated by most manufacturers.

    2. Alan says:

      Didn’t Robert Llewelyn reckon you could get 150 miles out of this car during his fully charged review ?

      1. Jmk says:

        I have one. It does the EPA range even during the local winter here in Finland. Charging is also a snap, what ever the source you use due to the efficiency.

        1. Nate says:

          That’s interesting. I’m excited to see what the summer result would be.

          At these efficiencies somethings like a 40KWh battery would make this a damn near perfect car. Make it happen Hyundai!

        2. Kevin says:

          Doesn’t the unit stop charging well before 100% though? I thought that was what Bjorn Nyland said in one his reviews. That would mess up range expectations, wouldn’t it?

          1. jmk says:

            When connected to the fast charger it stops at 94% but there is almost no slowdown before this. Way, WAY better than any other EV I have tried apart the Tesla. I thought that others like Bolt stop at 90%.

            And about the range – I had a 24kWh Leaf before (SOH 87) and based on all the samples I have so far this car is about twice as good. So, it corresponds to a imaginary 48kWh Leaf.

        3. unlucky says:

          That’s not possible. Not unless you veer far from the EPA test parameters.

          I know people are jazzed about this car, but let’s not skip from amazement to falsehoods.

    3. tosho says:

      The car has a very good drag coefficient and a very efficient electric motor. The efficient motor has a positive effect both when accelerating and recuperating. In addition it is FWD – by having the motor on the front axle it can recuperate more energy when breaking.

      P.S. This car is a great lesson on how to make an efficient EV. It clearly shows that drag coefficient and efficiency of the drivetrain are the important bits and that weight does not matter much (are you reading this BMW :))

      1. Cavaron says:

        +1, couldn’t have said it better.

      2. R.S says:

        While most of it is true, you forgot a really important part, charging.

        All those vehicles have include charging losses. So if the Ioniq has a more efficient charger, it can make up some MPGe just by charging more efficiently. I don’t have any numbers on the Ioniq, but the i3 has about 85% on level 1 charging. But I don’t know if there is any standard that says which charging station they need to use, for MPGe measurements.

        Thats why its not 100% right to say that the only reason why the Ioniq has a better MPGe , because it drives more efficiently. It could also just charge more efficiently.

        1. Devin Serpa says:

          Vehicle efficiency has never included charging losses, electric transmission losses, or electric generation losses, nor for that matter fueling losses, transportation of fuel losses, or refining losses for an ICE.

          1. Viking79 says:

            The MPGe figure for electric cars is based on power drawn through the plug, so it includes charging losses internal to the car (not EVSE losses).

          2. R.S says:

            The EPA considers the wall to wheel efficiency of an electric vehicle, since that’s what the consumer pays for. Which actually makes sense. You want to know how much electricity you have to use, to go somewhere. And with charging efficiencies lower than 90% in some cases, wall to wheel is significantly greater than tank to wheel.

            In addition to that, it would be a lot harder to measure tank to wheel efficiency in an electric vehicle. They would have to open it up and install their own diagnostic system, between the battery and the inverter, without altering the drivetrain, if they wanted to confirm some manufacturers efficiency claims. Which is close to impossible.

            So the EPA has always included charging losses.

    4. JF Laplante says:

      The Kia Soul for example is advertised with a 27kwh usable battery but in fact it has a 30.5kwh total battery. We can presume that the IONIQ total battery capacity will be 30.5+kwh for a 28kwh usable capacity.

  3. WadeTyhon says:

    Glad to see the Ioniq is finally here! If the price is in the low 30k or high 20k then I could see this doing well for itself.

    “There were around 1.1 million buyers who shopped for an EV last year, but because of cost or maintenance or durability…or that they felt the car was too underpowered…they didn’t buy one.”

    Huh? Cost, maybe. Especially for Teslas and BMWs EVs. But the people who can afford them aren’t likely to be deterred by cost.

    But maintenance or durability? I don’t think that has deterred anyone from an EV purchase…

  4. Shawn says:

    M.S.R.P. $25,000-$35,000

    1. Greg says:

      Where did you find the price? My wife and I saw it at the Detroit auto show and would like to get one.

  5. unlucky says:

    Great news about the EV. And the city efficiency is amazing. I’m still a bit skeptical of the overall range but I’m ready to be shown I’m wrong.

    Bummer about the plug-in bring so far out.

    1. I guess you are referring to the PHEV, since the Electric is a plug in!

      When it comes out, it will also be followed by tbe promised 200 mile EV range IONIQ, as well!

  6. Alaa says:

    If the drag coefficient of the IONIQ is 0.24 and the Model 3 is 0.21 then Model 3 can travel 146 miles on a 28 kWh battery. But Tesla says that it will travel 215 miles on a charge. So working it back words the Model 3 will need a 41 kWh battery for 215 miles. And with a 65 kWh battery the Model 3 will travel 340 miles. That is more than the model S 100D. And that is with one motor, if two are used then it will travel more!

    If we use the same linear relationship we can say that if the 41 kWh Model 3 will sell for $35,000 then the 65 kWh will cost about $55,000 and can travel about 350 miles. Not bad at all!

    1. Sublime says:

      Weight plays a role. You can’t take the range of a 28kWh car and apply its efficiency to a 40kWh or 65kWh car.

    2. Taylor S Marks says:

      There’s more to range than just drag coefficient and battery size. You need to also factor in weight.

      I expect the base Model 3 will be at least 50 kWh and get at least 240 miles. I don’t see Tesla allowing the Chevy Bolt to have a greater range, even with the base model. I also expect a top range Model 3 to get over 400 miles per charge.

      1. Viking79 says:

        Also remember that Tesla has a Model S they have to worry about canabalizing sales from. My guess is base Model 3 is 45 kwh with 220 mile range, but anything with 400 mile range will likely be $80k+ to avoid competing with the S. Unless they totally redo those cars to justify their price.

        1. Jason says:

          Tesla would be fools to release the M3 with same or better spec than MS/X. Maybe M3 with 4sec 0-60.

          If M3 can show reductions in manufacturing cost as expected, then my prediction would be that MS/X will put their increased purchase price into luxury fit and finish.

          Just about every brand has budget and luxury models. They all have similar range, and they all have similar utility/functionality, so what sets them apart is quality fit and finish.

          1. Tesla will most likely have no less than two physical batteries for the Model 3, but might offer a lower kWh software limit for base model!

            400 mile range for Model 3 may come, but 120 kWh may be in Model S & X first!

      2. unlucky says:

        It won’t get 240 miles from 50kWh. And I don’t think the base model ($30K pre-rebate) will get 240 miles. It’d be really hard for Tesla to do that with their heavier cars and induction motors.

        I’m sure more than 240 miles will be available as an option.

        Ultimately little of this matters since even if Tesla makes such claims you won’t be able to get a base model for a long time. They deliver the expensive models first, base models will be out so much later that technology will have advanced further and competing prices dropped significantly.

    3. tosho says:

      Weight does not matter that much but the efficiency of the electric motor does. And Tesla’s motors (at least in the Model S) are not that good.

      P.S. the Model S has Cd of 0.24 (same as ioniq) but it could not do 124 miles with 28kWh.

      1. Alaa says:

        The frontal area of the Model S is much bigger than either the IONIQ or the Model 3. But both the IONIQ and Model 3 are comparebale in frontal area and rolling resistance from the tiers. Maybe linear in weight too. But as mentioned the weight plays a small part.

      2. Rob Stark says:

        Tesla motors are quite good and do not contain any rare earth metals so they are scalable to 100% automotive market share.

        Unlike some other motors in niche compliance vehicles.

        1. danwat1234 also called daniel watkins says:

          Really, Tesla doesn’t use any rare earth materials in it’s motors? Hard to believe with how powerful they are. Engineers of the 2016+ Volt only managed to make the lower powered secondary motor/generator rare earth material free.

          1. Tesla Motors: Copper Core, Copper Windings, No Magnets. Just where are those Rare Earth materials used?

        2. floydboy says:

          Good point Rob.

    4. unlucky says:

      Tesla only uses AC induction motors. This surely uses permanent magnet motors which are more efficient. Tesla won’t be able to catch up on efficiency soon.

    5. Pinewold says:

      Elon said 215 miles is a conservative estimate and Tesla believes Mod 3 will go much further. My bet is 250 miles minimum (50kWh), with 300 miles (60kWh) and possibly 400 miles (80 kWh) options. If super supercharger can do 350-400KW a 12-15 minute recharge might be possible.

  7. DJ says:

    Awesome news.

  8. Steven says:

    Appearing in Pennsylvania…

    Someday.

    1. Ken says:

      Ar the philly auto show yesterday there was one Ioniq and it was not a plug in hybrid or full electric. I asked the Hyundai sales rep about a plug in model and was told that the fully electric version will only be available in California and that it’s still a year or two away. Which contradicts what i’m reading here right now. Also, the price on the gasoline Ioniq was still TBD at the show yesterday. So i wonder if all 50 states are ever going to get it?

  9. Kdawg says:

    That will be another CCS car on the roads.

  10. Ioniq says:

    I can confirm the great number from the Ioniq. I own it now since more than a month and at my conditions (City and German Autobahn up to 74mph, cold 14 to 23F) I easily achieve at the moment >100 miles with heating at 70F. With the slow US speed limits and warmer temperatures outside 125miles should be no real challenge for it.

  11. Devin Serpa says:

    Needs to be 150-200 miles.

    1. 200 mile range IONIQ EV to come for 2018, as previously shared by the company!

  12. JyBicycle says:

    We need Tony Williams to do the 62 mph test. I expect bladder explosion before the Ioniq runs out of charge.

    1. Bill Howland says:

      People who have to stop at every McDonald’s to relief themselves need to cut down on the beer and soda or else take better care of their Prostate.

      1. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

        lol…….best post.

      2. Lou says:

        What about those of us who no longer have one?

    2. Robert Utess says:

      Lol

  13. greg perkins says:

    the sonata hybrid is listed as starting at 26,000 so isnt 25,000 a little high. considering i read it undercuts the prius in price and the prius hybrid starts at something just under 24,000

  14. Todd says:

    Any word if it will launch under the Ioniq Unlimited plan announced at LA Auto Show?

  15. PK says:

    This should sell well in Ontario as it qualifies for the $14,000 rebate.

  16. Todd says:

    Here’s the press release regarding Ioniq Unlimited that I mentioned in earlier post:

  17. danwat1234 also called daniel watkins says:

    Wow really good MPGE. Nice! Better than the Bolt or Prime! Probably aero and more efficient electronics possibly.

    Just won’t accelerate as quick as the Bolt but that’s OK.

  18. Comparing IONIQ to Soul EV and LEAF (30), all of which have a similar usable battery capacity …
    IONIQ gets ~22-25 miles more than LEAF
    IONIQ gets ~30 miles more than Soul EV
    (IONIQ & Soul EV batteries are essentially the same configuration)
    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38168&id=38431&id=38428

    1. floydboy says:

      Using this platform and a larger battery, makes me think Hyundai won’t have too much trouble getting 200 miles out of it.

  19. jim stack says:

    We’ve never seen their Hybrid or plugin Hybrid yet in Arizona . I think it might take until the end of 2017 to see the full Electric version. Then we can HEAT test it for them.

  20. Tom says:

    With this type of efficiency, I would bet that the performance will be poor. I’d be shocked to see 0-60 times under 10 seconds. 4.4 miles per KWh is extremely efficient. Most current EVs get considerably less

    Volt: 3.7
    Leaf: 3.6
    Tesla S: 3.3
    BMW i3: 3.8

    1. Alberto says:

      0-60 in sport mode for Ioniq Electric is 9.8 seconds according to UK reviews

      1. Tom says:

        OK, but then is the very high efficiency reported still available when using Sport mode? Generally, you can have very high efficiency or high performance, but not both at the same time.

        1. BenG says:

          Surely not.

          But it’s the same for every car: you accelerate faster your mileage goes down.

    2. M3 reserved. - Bolt TBD ?Ioniq? says:

      This is why Bolt is so remarkable of a vehicle. 4.0+ and good sporty 0-60 times with range.

      Ioniq intrigues us though since the cargo space is what’s really needed for us on the city hauler to replace the CRV. Bolt is just not big enough in the back for our Golden Retriever to be comfortable

  21. speculawyer says:

    So it is hybrid, EV, or PHEV? Meh. I don’t know if these conversions cut it any more.

  22. Steven says:

    Saying it’s on sale and saying it’s on sale nationwide are two different things.

    I’m not planning on flying to the west coast for a test drive.

  23. BenG says:

    This is a fantastic entry by Hyundai. Assuming they price it aggressively, as is the norm for the company, and assuming they build as many as they can sell (big question), then this car could sell a lot of copies.

  24. Apkungen says:

    This is such a great car. I test drove it around 0C, 32F and was able to get 125 miles of mixed driving even at those temperatures. Definitely possible to get up towards 160 miles in warmer temperatures and below 60mph!

  25. DJ says:

    So what’s the price? Enquiring minds want to know!

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