Elon Musk Confirms: Model X, Model 3 To Get Drivetrain Warranty Similar To Model S

3 years ago by Eric Loveday 22

Confirmed: Model X and Model 3 To Get Drivetrain Warranty Similar To Infinite Mileage Warranty Now Offered On Model S

Confirmed: Model X and Model 3 To Get Drivetrain Warranty Similar To Infinite Mileage Warranty Now Offered On Model S

Tesla Model S Drivetrain

Tesla Model S Drivetrain

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has confirmed that both the upcoming Tesla Model X and the low-cost Tesla Model 3 (or perhaps Tesla Model ā‰”) will come with a similar drivetrain warranty to the Model S.

In case you missed it, Tesla just expanded the Model S’ drivetrain warranty to 8 years/infinite miles on the 85 kWh sedans and 8 years/125,000 miles on the 60 kWh version.

Musk confirms that the warranty for the Model X and Model 3 will be similar to the Model S, though he doesn’t say that the warranty will be the same.

We predict that the Model X will carry an identical warranty to the Model SĀ 85 kWh cars.Ā  However, the low-cost Model 3 may offer a lesser warranty, perhaps like the 60 kWh version.

Here’s the recent blog post from Tesla CEO Elon Musk on the upgraded Model S drivetrain warranty:

Infinite Mile Warranty
By Elon Musk, CEO

The Tesla Model S drive unit warranty has been increased to match that of the battery pack. That means the 85 kWh Model S, our most popular model by far, now has an 8 year, infinite mile warranty on both the battery pack and drive unit. There is also no limit on the number of owners during the warranty period.

Moreover, the warranty extension will apply retroactively to all Model S vehicles ever produced. In hindsight, this should have been our policy from the beginning of the Model S program. If we truly believe that electric motors are fundamentally more reliable than gasoline engines, with far fewer moving parts and no oily residue or combustion byproducts to gum up the works, then our warranty policy should reflect that.

To investors in Tesla, I must acknowledge that this will have a moderately negative effect on Tesla earnings in the short term, as our warranty reserves will necessarily have to increase above current levels. This is amplified by the fact that we are doing so retroactively, not just for new customers. However, by doing the right thing for Tesla vehicle owners at this early stage of our company, I am confident that it will work out well in the long term.

ā€“ Elon

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22 responses to "Elon Musk Confirms: Model X, Model 3 To Get Drivetrain Warranty Similar To Model S"

  1. Paul says:

    I don’t think the warranty was changed for the 60 kWh version of the Model S. The Tesla website pretty much confirms this.

    1. Ed says:

      Drivetrain warranty is same as battery pack, which for 60kwh version is 8 years or 125,000 miles. (Years is the same as 85kWh version but is 125,000 miles rather than unlimited miles).

  2. GeorgeS says:

    Does anyone have a schematic of the Tesla gearset.??

    Is it a simple spur gear set or is it a planetary gear set.??

    Spur gear sets are fairly inexpensive and (in general) more reliable that a planetary gear set.

    The Volt has a planetary gear set while the Leaf has a simple spur gear set.

    Not sure on the Tesla Model S though.

    1. Philip says:

      It’s a spur gear set, not planetary, based on pictures of the transmission opened up in one of the factory videos. The shape of the housing and the arrangement of the motor and drive shafts suggests this too.

      1. GeorgeS says:

        That is what I thought also. Thx for the response.

      2. GeorgeS says:

        Do we know what part is failing in the gearbox??

        I found a video that shows that the Axle shafts are off-set from the center line of the motor which suggests spur gears as you said.

        at 1:10
        http://insideevs.com/video-primer-tesla-model-s-electric-motor/

        1. Philip says:

          Elon mentioned a shim, which is a part used to set running clearances or pre-loads in the gearset. It may not necessarily be ‘failing’; incorrect clearances can cause noises. Perhaps experience has indicated the need to use different tolerances.

  3. Anon says:

    I love how Elon still gets his Model “E” without it being an actual letter…

    Screw you, Ford! šŸ˜‰

  4. Mikael says:

    3 horizontal bars… who would have guessed?

    1. Josh says:

      Yep, you nailed it out of the gate. S3XY is alive and well.

  5. Spec9 says:

    The 3 horizontal bars alias with the ‘E’ in the Tesla font. Ford could go after them if they wanted to be jerks.

    Why is he making warranty promises for a car not yet designed?

    1. Huffster says:

      While anyone can sue for anything these days, I’d hope Ford would lose. The official name is Model 3, but as long as the 3 horizontal bars get properly registered as a trademark Tesla should win. Its just an artistic render of the number 3. Could be — or \\\ or *** or what Elon wants: three horizontal bars. Genius!

    2. SIvad says:

      I don’t think Ford could win that one. Three horizontal marks is how you actually write the number three in many Asian languages. It’s the same in Japanese and Mandarin for example.

      Tesla could just claim that it decided that Asia would be a big purchaser of the Model 3 and wanted something recognizable internationally.

      1. Marc says:

        Actually the funny thing is that the capital letter “X” in Greek looks just like that Asian symbol!

        Example:

      2. ModernMarvelFan says:

        Mandarin is NOT a written lanuguage…

        It is Chinese. Regardless of dialect, the written form for that number 3 is the same.

  6. kdawg says:

    I’ll have to update my graphic šŸ™‚

  7. Marc says:

    Three horizontal bars, hmm sounds familiar:

    Yep, that’s definitely a hit at “Model E” indeed šŸ˜‰

  8. sven says:

    It sucks that the 60 kWh Model S and probably the Model 3 don’t get the unlimited mile warranty. If you buy an ICE sports sedan, the drivetrain warranty is the same whether you choose to get it with a big honking V8 or a less powerful 4 cylinder engine. Tesla shouldn’t give people who choose a smaller battery an inferior drivetrain warranty, especially when it’s the exact same drive unit in both the 60 and 80 kWh Model S. I can understand why Tesla puts a milege warranty on the smaller 60 kWh battery pack, since since it would need more charge cycles to cover the same total distance as the larger 85 kWh battery pack. The drive unit on the 60 kWh Model S is less stressed since the motor is not as powerful as the motor on the 85 kWh version. Also, the 60 kWh version likeky will on average rack up less mileage in 8 years than the 85 kWh version. If Tesla really beleived in the reliability of it’s drive unit, it would offer an unlimited mileage warranty on all it’s models regardless of battery size.

    1. TomArt says:

      Agreed. Good points.

    2. Omar Sultan says:

      It always amazes me how folks will find something to gripe about. If you are a “60” owner, you drive unit warranty just got extended by three years/75K miles for free, which just reduced your risk of drive unit related costs and increased your resale value.

      Tesla is not a charity, they are a business. There is a cost for doing this: they will have to set aside additional reserves to cover warranty expense. They would also like you to buy the more profitable 85 over the 60, so they will continue to add enticements to the 85 like the longer warranties and included SuperCharging.

      My guess is the same approach will extend to the MX and M3 – the bigger battery will come with extra benefits.

      O