Colorado Gets its First Quick Charger; a $50,000 Unit Donated by Nissan

4 years ago by Eric Loveday 23

Add One More CHAdeMo Quick Charger to the US' Slowly Expanding Network

Add One More CHAdeMo Quick Charger to the US’ Slowly Expanding Network

How many DC quick chargers are there in Colorado?  Well, if you posed that question a few days ago, then the answer would have been zero.

Only 1 DC Quick Charger in Colorado

Only 1 DC Quick Charger in Colorado

Now, the answer to that question is one.

Colorado got its first CHAdeMO quick charger last week courtesy of a $50,000 unit donated by Nissan.  The charger is in Fort Collins, Colorado at the Museum of Discovery.

Fort Collins Policy and Project, Tom Vosburg, describes the quick charger as a “game changer,” adding that Level 3 is “becoming the gas pump for electric vehicles.”

Charging at the unit will cost $3 per session, a price that seems cheap to us.

Sadly, most states across the US still have zero DC quick chargers, while several others are like Colorado with only one.

Source: Fox 31 Denver

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23 responses to "Colorado Gets its First Quick Charger; a $50,000 Unit Donated by Nissan"

  1. Francis L says:

    It is a strange idea to put a level 2 charger at the same spot then a level 3. So if somebody plug his car with the level 2, he takes the spot for several hours while nobody can use the level 3 charger? I hope there is a little bit of room to put a second car on the right.

    1. David Murray says:

      Most of the DC fast chargers we have here in Dallas/Fort Worth also have an L2 station right next to them. They usually have two spots so that theoretically both chargers could be used simultaneously.

      1. Foo says:

        Yeah, but they put those both at the *same* spot. Why not create two spots, one for the L2 and one for the fast charger… that way it is obvious that two cars can charge.

        Who plans this stuff?!

    2. Paul says:

      Hello,

      I have a 2013 Nissan Leaf. The Leaf charge port is just above the front bumper, centered on fthe front bumper. You pull in to the parking spot just like you would at the grocery store or any retail store. Keep the car between the painted lines. Pop the charging door and connect. There is enough cable on the level 2 charger to reach two parking spaces on either side of the charging station.

      If you look closely at the picture, you see the curb on the left, and on the right is the grove in the concrete slab close to the yellow cable. There are two parking spaces visible in the picture. Most Level 2 chargers (small charger on the left) have two charging cables per pedistal. This is a ChargePoint public charging pedistal. We have them all around Minneapolis & St. Paul, Minnesota.

      The Level 3 Quick charger on the right looks to be about 10 to 12 feet tall. The Charge Points are about 5 feet tall.

      Paul

  2. Chris O says:

    $50K…so how come Tesla Superchargers reportedly cost triple that, and that’s before they are upgraded with battery backup and solar?

    1. Tesla offer 8 to 10 charge points per “station”.

      1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

        And the typically quoted Supercharger cost includes installation.

      2. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

        I should add that Supercharger slots are in pairs. So 8 or 10 means 4 or 5 Superchargers, each capable of 90kW or 120kW (upgrade) charging.

        1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

          *Sigh*

          Just to be clear, each Supercharger can charge two cars at once, with the 2nd car starting off on a lower charge and then getting faster charging as the 1st car tapers off. So a busy Supercharger should be working full title most of the time.

          1. Chris O says:

            That should explain it.

      3. Bloggin says:

        That’s because Tesla SuperStations, installed near major interstates are designed to offer DC fast charging for more than just Tesla vehicles in the near future.

        Which will allow longer distance travel for the next generation of 200+ EV mile vehicles.

        200 mile EVs will have little need for local city public charging, since the consumers charging station is in their garage. Where the car sits more than driven.

        Even if an EV owner wanted ‘top off’ their EV for 20 miles using the Nissan quick charger, it would cost $3 for 20 miles. Like driving a car that only gets 20 mpg.

        Which is why it’s appropriate that this Nissan charging station is outside a museum. Which makes it easier to bring it inside in a few years.

  3. I believe the Kia dealer near Denver has or is installing a CHAdeMO for the upcoming Soul EV.

    1. Sam says:

      I sure hope that means they are planning to sell it nation wide. I’d love to see a Leaf competitor with a TMS.

  4. Mike says:

    Definitely good news for northern CO PEV drivers. Actually, NREL has had a non-public fast charger for nearly two years. Also, “Level 3” is not the same as a DC Fast Charger. Those are “DC Level 2” according to SAE.

    1. This is not an SAE DC charger (aka Frankenplug), so I guess you can call it any level you want.

      The geniuses at SAE changed the “level 3” nomenclature, which I found quite intuitive for EV newbies.

      Level 1 was/is the house wall socket
      Level 2 was the special 240 volt plug
      Level 3 was the big, fast public only machine

      I will continue to explain it that way, instead of trying to explain the difference between AC and DC, and why the AC is so much slower than DC at the same “level”. Just dumb.

  5. Dan Frederiksen says:

    Why wouldn’t Nissan donate one of their own Chademos? seems a little strange.

    1. Josh says:

      That was my thought exactly. Nissan sells their own for $10k, why donate a $50k unit from AV? Wonder if it had already been purchased for another purpose and they needed to write it off.

      1. The AV unit *is* the Nissan branded, Sumitomo built DC charger. AV has stopped making their own units, and are an exclusive distributor for the Nissan unit.

        1. Rick G. says:

          Tony,

          Let me clear something up.

          The Aerovironment DCQC was donated by Nissan(instead of the Sumitomo units) because of its altitude rating. The Nissan BRANDED units built by Sumitomo($10,000) are only rated up to about 3600ft above sea level.

          Until Sumitomo develops a high altitude version of the Nissan BRANDED units, Nissan will continue to implement the AV units across Colorado and other high elevation locals.

  6. Marshal G says:

    At least it’s not at a dealership, but someplace that people might actually want to hang out for a while. Good for them, hopefully there will be a few more.

    1. Josh says:

      Ah, so the museum must not have been willing to dedicate two spots, having already put in an L2 that presumably wasn’t used much. They shade the DCQC unit over so it could be used from either.

      Looks like a prime spot for getting ICEd. I can’t read the sign over the spot to right (in the article pic at the top), but it looks confusing enough that it won’t be held free for charging.

  7. Rick G. says:

    For those of you that were commenting on why the two chargers are directly next to one another, think about this. The hoses are long enough to reach to the spot adjacent to the main parking spot.