Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid: Impressive 32 MPG, With 36 Miles Electric City Range

3 months ago by Eric Loveday 79

Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid

Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid

The EPA has just released detailed ratings for the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid.

Seen below is info straight from the EPA’s internal database. Aside from the previously known figures, we know can see the various highway/city/combined breakdowns, as well as the MPG ratings in all three categories.

Detailed EPA Rating For 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid

Detailed EPA Rating For 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid – Click To Enlarge

First up, electric range. City range is listed at 35.51 miles, while highway range is 29.98. Combined that works out to 33 miles (or 0 to 33 miles, as is typical for most plug-in hybrids rated by the EPA).

Pacifica Lineup Comparison

Pacifica Lineup Comparison

Next, in the PHEV Composite MPG category, the breakdown is 54 city, 49 highway and 52 combined.

Last up is MPG. The variance here between driving in the city or country is negligible, with the Pacifica Hybrid returning 32 mpg city, 33 mpg highway and 32 mpg combined.

For comparative purpose, the non plug-in Pacifica returns 18 mpg city, 28 mpg highway and 22 mpg combined.  So a significant 45% efficiency gain is still felt when driving only on petrol over the standard Pacifica thanks to the e-drivetrain set-up.

The Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid is priced from $41,995 (plus destination) and production is already underway with first deliveries expected soon (also check out one of the first plug-in Chrysler minivans being produced on FCA’s Windsor assembly line here).

Some additional highlights related to the Pacifica Hybrid:

2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid:

  • 33 miles of all-electric range and 84 MPGe fuel economy
  • all-electric mode capable of up to120 km/h (75 mph)
  • 16 kWh battery, which of course qualifies the van for $7,500 in federal tax credit money
  • batteries are liquid-cooled (same basic system as the Bolt EV – cells contact an aluminum fin that conducts the heat to a cooling plate), consists of six 16-cell modules
  • NMC cathode and graphite anode chemistry, with one of the highest densities for any PHEV at 193 W·h/kg
  • 2-hour charging capability
  • 3.6-liter Pentastart V6 petrol engine; in this case with a lowered output to 248hp with 230lb ft of torque, and two electric motors
  • second-row seats also can be removed, but the battery takes up the area normally reserved for “stow-n-go” seating

Hat tip to Alan H!

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79 responses to "Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid: Impressive 32 MPG, With 36 Miles Electric City Range"

  1. Rob Stark says:

    Chrysler is rocking it!

    In 2018 when FCA introduce the JEEP version Mitsubishi should not even bother with importing the Outlander PHEV to the USA. They screwed the pooch big time.

    1. Rightofthepeople says:

      Agreed Rob. They need to put this drivetrain in the Cherokee or even better, the Grand Cherokee. Add full time AWD and they will sell a boatload of them.

    2. bro1999 says:

      Will FCA sell the Pacifica hybrid in non-CARB states though? Doubtful. FCA needs all the ZEV credits they can get.

      I don’t see Sergio “wasting” ZEV credits by selling to non-CARB residents.

      1. WadeTyhon says:

        I’m a bit skeptical because of his previous statements. But Autoblog did report in an earlier article that Chrysler will be doing a staged rollout to all 50-states. Similar to GM and Tesla’s rollouts to California and CARB states first.

        “As for when the Pacifica Hybrid will reach dealerships, all we know is, “late 2016.” But Mets said that the minivan will at some point be available in all 50 states. Initial availability might be limited to places like California, but, “The idea is to sell it nationwide,” he said.”

        It would be great to see them follow through on that!

        1. bro1999 says:

          I wonder if it will be similar to Ford’s approach with the Focus Electric.

          “Sure! We sell it in all 50 states! Oh wait, you want to see one in person first? Sorry, have to be in CA then. You can pay full MSRP and order one at your local dealer in Podunk City, Middle of Nowhere anytime though!”

          1. Jay Cole says:

            I can comment on this via media statements, the plan if for the Pacifica Hybrid to be a 50 states nationwide (and Canada-wide) normalized product

            ie) stocked (not Focus EV/Hyundai Sonata where may only be available by orders)

            That said, the Pacifica (like most new PEV offerings) will go to California, but also other larger markets first (not just CARB).

            …remember the PHEV platform is a much a CAFE/fleet MPG offest, as a CARB thing (as FCA doesn’t need any PHEV sales to bring down ZEV reqs with CARB thanks to the ~18k 500e sales). So in this case, Chrysler is looking to maximize volume over regionality.

            The ETA for the nationwide release is H1 on the 2017 MY. So, if you are in Wyoming, you could be still waiting upwards of ~6 months to see one at the dealer…but it is coming.

            1. ArkansasVolt says:

              My dealer in Arkansas was told by his rep to expect the first allocations in February for March deliveries.

    3. William says:

      Scrap plans on bringing Mitsubishi Outlander stateside. That has got to be one of the Biggest Fails in the last few years.

  2. James says:

    Fantastic entry by Chrysler. That’s a very useful range for a soccer and grocery getter. Handsome van.

  3. Trollnonymous says:

    This is a strong first step into the PHEV world for them.

    Sadly in CA they will start SMOG checks on hybrids, or I think they already did in 2015. Nor sure if PHEV are included but I’m pretty sure someone will eventually see money in doing SMOG checks on them.

    1. Michael Will says:

      Smog checks are the natural consequence of using legst gas technology, a problem that will go away by itself soon, maybe Pacifica 2018 or 2019 pure BEV?

      1. Viking79 says:

        Problem is BEV only is not practical for a Minivan unless it has like 450 mile range at 75 to 80 mph and 30 or 45 minute charge time.

        My use case for a van, and many other people’s, is to haul kids around town during the day, to state competitions on weekends, and finally holiday travel with the family. Last thing I want to be doing on a road trip is stopping every 2 hours for a 1 hour charge stop with a bunch of cranky children.

        1. darth says:

          Where are you driving to need 450 miles? Are you sure about that?

          Almost all family vacations with kids for me were to the Outer banks, which is less than 300 miles from my house. For farther vacations, like Disney World, we just flew. Also, the Outer Banks are in across the state line so any “state competition” would be even less far.

        2. TimE says:

          450 miles at 75 to 80 MPH?? Do you and your family pee in bottles while driving?

          Our family resorted to taking the gas minivan when we drive from CO to AZ in October – 750 miles. We followed a Tesla Supercharger route the entire way (was not out of the way at all) – and I stopped at the Tesla SuperChargers on the route too – it would have added no more than 30 minutes to that drive had we taken a 200 mile range EV with Super Charging capabilities.

          If you actually drive with a family (wife/kids) – it’s quite likely you are stopping more frequently and for longer than the Tesla SuperChargers would need.

          Even the 315 mile range of the Tesla Model S P100D is more than anyone needs in my opinion! As long as you can do 200 miles on the highway at 65 to 70 MPH with the heat on when it is 15 deg F outside, you are then good for any trip you’d ever take.

          1. gsned57 says:

            I’m with Viking79 but my 450 is 350 at 75 MPH. I will generally feed the kids dinner in the car when we leave and stop once for a 10 minute pee break. The last thing I want to do with 4 kids while on a long road trip is wait an hour to charge. I think what Chrysler is offering right now is the sweet spot and I hope they succeed beyond their wildest dreams. I’m truly amazed at how good the numbers are for this car and it has quickly moved to the top of my list for next car purchase.

          2. Pem_70 says:

            We live in NW florida with annual Disney passes a s well as friends in Miami/Dade.. This year we’ve driven4 times to disney and further- each time 800-1100 round trip… with the pacifica hybrid it would be 1 tank of gas each way.. without it is 3-5 tanks round trip… plane fare is often in the 4-500 range per person… x 5-6 persons… a Tessa with kids a no, no!.. for a complete electric.. I’ll trade in my (future) Pacifica hybrid.. IF it can get minimum 350-500 range at 75 mph.. BTW.. most families (>4 persons) who don’t have a real airport hub.. the cost of plane fare is prohibitive and so most drive… including 40-60 % of snowbirds to florida.. the range is a must.

  4. Priusmaniac says:

    Not even 50 miles ev range, year after the volt and a V6 in a green car! What a joke.

    1. Michael Will says:

      Best in class, and with google developing their automated driving on the platform I foresee great things…

      1. Jay Cole says:

        Michael,

        I’d agree the class and vehicle is very significant. For example, I myself need a new hauler (well my wife says she does…I only drive BEVs lest stones be cast at my head, lol), and the Pacifica plug-in will be it.

        In this segment a person is trading in ~18 mpg of petrol in the city (which is where it will be driven) for ~36 miles of all-electric driving, and of course netting the huge percentage gains in efficiency thereafter.

        Obviously I can’t speak to the future splits scientifically, but one assumes it will be similar to the 1st gen Volt (although who knows with the big segment change), so likely ~75% of all driving will be done on electricity.

        The average ‘net’ displacement of gas when opting for the plug-in Pacifica over the standard Pacifica, or really any other ‘affordable’ hauler than can take a sheet of drywall in the back or haul 8 regular sized persons will be massive as compared to the Volt, or the LEAF..or any other PEV offered today (with some debatable maths on the Model X and its classification/affordability).

        Think I’m with Michael on this one, I have zero love lost for FCA, but this is a sold offering and good for the future of PEV tech/acceptance in the US.

        1. Jay Cole says:

          Put another way to illustrate the signifiance of the MPG and electric range (AER) in the comp class (using EPA numbers over 15,00 miles).

          The Pacifica Hybrid saves a massive 564 gallons on petrol use over the standard Pacifica.

          As a example, since the comp mentioned above was ~50 miles AER (assuming a reference to the Volt). The Volt has more than double the range of the Prius Prime (53 vs 25), but “best case” is that opting for the Volt over the Prime nets a savings of ~25 gallons.

          One Pacifica Hybrid bought over a standard minivan displaces the same amount of petrol of 22 Volts being chosen over the Prime, and it further opens the door to the electrification of utility/truck segment.

          No issues at all with this, and next up later this year from FCA (likely on the stand in January…shh, don’t tell anyone its a secret ) is a full size crossover SUV plug-in hybrid.

          Truthfully, I think we often assume Sergio’s well known hatred of BEVs (like most OEMs – although they are less vocal, lol) extends to PHEVs, but evidence points to the contrary.

          1. Priusmaniac says:

            Of course starting from super bad going to bad will make more gas saving then going from average to good, but does it really make sense to try to green cars that belong to another century’s habit. I mean we can sure green a Hummer but is that really the kind of vehicle we want to drive in the 21 th century? We need to adapt what we drive and if we really don’t want to give up on consumerism habits of the past than 30 ev miles is not enough to slash 95% of gas use like what making that acceptable would then demand.

            1. Tom says:

              The regular gasoline powered minivan is still greener than a Prius if used for its design. For instance the college I work for has a couple dozen of them in the motor pool for hauling students to things. Measured in per passenger miles, the gas usage per passenger mile is way less. It’s the same reason buses are better. So yes if one person drives them around then that’s a thing but remember lots of vans have use that involve bigger things. Another example would be as a delivery van. Lots and lots and lots of minivans are used in this fashion. The recent advent of things like the Ford transit connect is a big step in that same area. So before becoming indignant perhaps check out the facts. The greatest impact for hybrids is NOT in small cars. It is in buses, trucks, delivery vehicles, large passenger vehicles, etc.

              1. Priusmaniac says:

                Student hauling is different of course and working or delivery van is also different, but here it really is the mini-van we talking about. Some are full most are not many carry a single person. Every person is free to drive what he wants and wouldn’t blame anybody but it is just that it doesn’t fit the present trend.

                1. ArkansasVolt says:

                  the present trend is CUV and SUV… maybe you are thinking PHEV Durango or PHEV Grand Cherokee?

            2. puzzlegal says:

              I miss my minivan. I still borrow one from time to time, as well. I use it to:

              Haul big stuff to the dump.
              Carry 6 college kids 200 miles and back for a weekend activity.
              Take me and one or two passengers along with a lot of gear 150 miles and back for a weekend event.

              and yes, when it was one of the two cars, I also used it for grocery shopping, and to get to the commuter rail station, and for errands around town. But with 30 miles on battery, ALL OF THOSE single person/modest amount of stuff trips that I took will be on battery, or nearly so.

              I’m a little anxious about Chrysler’s reliability, but on paper, this is the perfect car for me. I am super enthusiastic they are selling it, and I hope it sells like hotcakes.

          2. PJ says:

            I’m confused what full size SUV?

            1. Jay Cole says:

              Shh, its a secret, we aren’t supposed to talk about it, lol. Chrysler wants to surprise us, (=

              That said, Chrysler offers no full size crossover SUVs atm, so the plug could be expanding into the Jeep/Dodge brand (there is an obv choice in there).

              1. ArkansasVolt says:

                I cannot imagine them doing a plug on the Durango, but that is the biggest that they have. I would have thought the Journey. When I think of Durango, I think of Hemi but not PHEV.

              2. PJ says:

                Lol that’s ******* awesome. Could this “surprise” take place in January at say Las Vegas where we may or may not get another surprise by Nissan😄

                1. Jay Cole says:

                  Nope definitely not. Vegas and Chrysler don’t mix, (=

                  It’s definitely a “Detroit” type of deal (or failing that – although doubtful, New York)…eta to the consumer on the full size crossover is model year 2018.

                  Sidenote: not sure Vegas is really going to be as eventful as people think, as its not really automotive specific. Detroit a few days later is still certainly the place to be.

          3. DougB says:

            Jay, I’m hoping they put this system into a competitor for the Ford Transit Connect and Nissan NV200. Would destroy that market.
            Its only 4″ shorter as it is.

    2. Brian says:

      If this is a joke, I’m not laughing. I’m applauding.

      Replacing a standard 22MPG minivan with one of these will save FAR more gasoline than replacing a 40MPG compact car with a Volt.

    3. Larry says:

      Volt=compact
      Pacifica=land cruiser

      Not for me, but way to go FCA!

    4. WadeTyhon says:

      An odd thing to say from a person named PriusManiac… The Prius Prime doesn’t even have 25 miles of EV range.

      This car has great mpg efficiency over the regular Pacifica as well.

      How many Plug-In Hybrid mini-vans or SUVs have over 30 mpg combined and can be driven most days on battery power alone? Until now, none in the US.

      There are a few EV only or Hybrid only options… but they’re sold in fairly small numbers or are very expensive. This car pretty much stands alone for efficiency, versatility and affordability.

      1. bro1999 says:

        If I had to choose between the Pacifica Hybrid and Prius Prime (thank god I don’t), I would choose the Pacifica hands down. Even though the Pacifica is a minivan, the Prius Prime is just so damn ugly.

        For a minivan, the Pacifica doesn’t look half bad.

      2. Priusmaniac says:

        But the Prime with 25 miles is a joke too, that’s why 400000 people signed up for the Model 3 me included.

        Now I understand the argument that it is the best version of a mini-van available but it is still nevertheless bad in comparison with what FCA or any other could do. They just don’t give a real effort at making it really green but instead just give enough green so that people would buy it. Apparently many people are willing to fall in that trick.

        1. WadeTyhon says:

          Ah, I share your skepticism of Fiat/Chrysler and Toyota. I left Toyota over the Prius Plug-In and went straight to a Volt/SparkEV combo.

          If Chrysler can find a way to make a profit on the Pacifica Hybrid, then their financial concerns are met and our environmental concerns are met. Win-win! 🙂

          Also, by naming the vehicle a “Hybrid” they will possibly be converting many non-EV drivers.

          A Mini-van driver is likely most concerned about practicality. They will be interested in a hybrid variant.

    5. Viking79 says:

      The Joke is the Prius and its sales reflect as much. (Most) People don’t want a Prius, they bought them because gas was $4/gal.

      Here is a vehicle that could truly cut many families gasoline consumption far more than a Prius, and you call it a joke. Most minivans get about 17 mpg around town, and get driven a lot of miles per week, and many utilize the extra seats in them.

      This Van would save maybe 10 to 15 gallons a week vs my current minivan. Not a lot, but when I had my gas car, switching to the Volt saved me half that or less, because my gas car was a lot more efficient than the van, and it doesn’t make all the small trips during the day.

    6. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and call it irony.

      1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

        (I found that funny, anyway)

    7. SJC says:

      The V6 comes in handy when you are climbing the Sierras with 6 people and ski gear.

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        Sure and a V66 would be even better, perhaps with some extra rockets just in case.

        1. SJC says:

          Once you say something intelligent people might respond.

          1. Priusmaniac says:

            I was humoristically exaggerating on purpose to show that availability is good but when it is to fit rare extreme cases not so much because you then overbuild, which is in itself an inefficiency.

  5. WadeTyhon says:

    Very impressive, I hope they actually produce a large number of these. I had written off Fiat/Chrysler long ago as a lost cause. I’m still skeptical of their commitment, but they may have found their niche in the early Plug-In market.

    I have no need for such a car, but if I had a large family, this would be a great alternative to the small sized Volt. Great efficiency over the regular Pacifica.

    If it sells well, Chevy needs to answer this by finally putting voltec in one of their SUVs.

    1. Priusmaniac says:

      I do have a large family but I would simply not by a van or a Hummer. It just doesn’t fit our century’s demand and environmental considerations.

      1. ArkansasVolt says:

        would you rather have 2 Prius or one Pacifica… I do not see the need for multiple cars everytime my family wants to go somewhere. Soccer games, school, anything. If I am at work in one car, my wife would not be able to take our 4 kids (8 and under) anywhere legally. The Pacifica has its place with “large” families for sure.

  6. Nick says:

    Awesome entry!

    I wonder what the towing story is going to be?

    I’ll bet she’ll tow well with the PHEV setup. Tons of torque and regeneration for long down hills.

    1. Breezy says:

      The official tow rating is zero, but it should be an excellent towing platform. Torque, weight, low centre of gravity and regeneration work in its favour.

      If I get one I’ll be towing up to the same 3600 lb rating as the gas version with no concerns.

  7. ModernMarvelFan says:

    I think this is a class shattering vehicle.

    Beside Outlander PHEV, this is probably the best people mover PHEV you can find in the US.

    This will save significantly amount of gas for owners if they plug it in as much as they.

    I have to give FCA the credit for making this available in the US market.

    If they want to come back to minivan dominance, this is a great first step.

    I hope the reliability of this Pacifica PHEV also improves.

  8. Georges says:

    That gas only number is impressive. I wonder how they did that…and out of a v6!!

    1. ModernMarvelFan says:

      Atkinson cycle.

      1. Brian says:

        Yup. That plus the hybrid powertrain (regen/running the engine at the optimal efficiency band) will do it. If a car the size of a Prius V / Cmax can get 40+ MPG on the highway (which they do), the larger Pacifica should still be able to get 32.

        1. pjwood1 says:

          +Its the cheaper 87 Octane gas, giving it these specs.

          This car is an E*L*E*C*T*R*I*C V*E*H*I*C*L*E. An ***EREV***. There, I said it. Nana nabobo, can’t catch me. Lutz lives. Flame suit on.

          The bright side is displaced fossil fuels, where nobody can argue it won’t score big.

  9. Assaf says:

    This looks good. Unlike e.g., Ford (or even Nissan), the Pacifica’s specs exceed expectation.

    But before applauding, we need to learn the lessons of 2013-4 with the wave of promising-looking EVs that ended up being compliance or little better than that.

    I’d like to see full corporate commitment:

    – Pushing quantities quickly nationwide, not just to CARB states
    – Quickly training dealerships on how to sell and service these PHEV vans
    – Place at least a couple of L2 chargers at all Chrysler dealerships

    btw, what’s the top L2 charging rate on the Pacifica, in kW?

    1. Leeper says:

      From what I can find, 6.6KW. I’m not sure how it can charge a 16kwh battery in 2 hours though. My imiev has a 3.3KW charger and it takes 6 hours for the same size battery.

      1. bro1999 says:

        2 hours to recharge @ 6.6 kW suggests the usable capacity is around 12-13 kWh, if you figure about 10% in charging losses.

        1. Leeper says:

          If they are only using 75% of the battery, and have proper cooling, that thing will last for quite a while!

  10. bro1999 says:

    Anyone know the usable capacity of the Pacifica? I have to think FCA used at least 75% of the 16 kWh battery to get 33 miles of range…..if not more.

    I wonder if this will convince GM to finally release a true SUV plug-in hybrid….

    1. WadeTyhon says:

      You guessed it right on the nose. An earlier quote from Kevin Mets, the chief engineer of the vehicle:

      “We can afford to lose a little bit of ICE power because we have the 16-kWh battery that can provide all the power you need.”

      1. WadeTyhon says:

        Wait I just noticed you said “useable capacity”.

        Nevermind, I do not know that! 🙂

  11. David Murray says:

    I’m curious why they still need a V6 with the electric part doing all the heavy work, so to speak?

    1. bro1999 says:

      Probably because it’s cheaper to use one of their off-the-shelf V6 engines (the regular Pacifica uses a V6), instead of developing some specialized V4 or something.

      1. wavelet says:

        Not quite off-the-shelf, since it’s an Atkinson cycle vs. standard Otto cycle on the ICE version. Not sure how many of the parts are different, however.

    2. fotomoto says:

      The V6 provides towing capability.

      Also in a FWD transverse configuration, the V6 might be shorter across (narrower) than a very large 4 allowing more room for the electric side.

      1. fotomoto says:

        Can’t find specs for the hybrid but the 2016 T&C version weighs in at nearly 4700 lbs. Add in the hybrid and battery components and it should be over 5,000. No way a 4 banger is going to work.

        1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

          Exactly. Minivans are only mini relative to a cargo van. They are heavy.

          The Gen 1 Volt was about 3,800lb and had a 4-cylinder engine, but it was a 4-seater compact. This will have 25% more weight and I expect extra capability.

    3. Jake Brake says:

      A Large displacement v6 has more torque at lower rpm, to the car has less engine noise unlike a buzzy prius with its inline 4. Plus its still a large vehicle that it needs to move. A small engine would be working too hard and het worse mpg.

  12. Alan says:

    I would imagine this would be a compelling buy for many families in the US, decent Electric only mileage for such a large vehicle.

    A great start for this segment & price range.

  13. Add an optional electric engine on the rear axle and a Type2 charging port, and a Fiat logo in front, and I think that car would sell very well here in Norway…

  14. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

    There have been people wanting Toyota to bring its smaller Japanese hybrid minivan to the USA, but they only sell the Sienna

    This’ll be an interesting one to watch. I hope it’ll be more than compliance.

  15. William says:

    84 MPGe Combined City/ Highway!! This will be a great transition van to those who can’t get an EV van yet here in the US. Nissan failed us here in the States with only offering the e-NV200 in Europe. Chrysler Pacifica PHEV for the win.

    1. William says:

      e-NV200 also available in Japan at least the last two years, shipped from manufacturing facility in Barcelona, Spain. Oops!

  16. ModernMarvelFan says:

    If this thing doesn’t sell well with sufficient inventory, then Americans really don’t want PEVs…

  17. tom911 says:

    CA HOV compliant ?? Not listed yet not the official site but if the A3 e-tron and Volvo can make it- this should.

    That in itself will sell more than a few cars out here.

    1. ModernMarvelFan says:

      I don’t think it matters nearly as much.

      Most minivans I know usually have at least 2 person in it…

      It is a family shuttle for sure.

  18. blakem says:

    Jay, in your bullets you should also add that in addition to not having stow-and-go middle row seats, the hybrid Pacifica is only available with seven seats with no option for an eighth seat like in the other Pacifica models.

  19. blakem says:

    oops, I mean Eric above.

  20. ken lasswell says:

    When can I order the top of the line Pacifica Hybrid, and when can I expect delivery?

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