China To Build Nationwide Charging Network Capable Of Supporting 5 Million Electric Cars

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While In China, We Searched Far And Wide For Charging Stations - This Was One Of Only A Few We Found

While In China, We Searched Far And Wide For Charging Stations – This Was One Of Only A Few We Found at the 2014 Beijing Auto China

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The Chinese government announced a plans to build a nationwide charging network for up to 5 million electric vehicles by 2020.

Guidelines indicate that besides public charging spots (and inter-city highways), the number will include residential areas and business districts.

“New residential complexes should build charging points or assign space for them, while public parking lots should have no less than 10 percent of parking spaces with charging facilities. There should be at least one public charging station for every 2,000 NEVs, the guideline said.

To finance the project, the government will encourage private investment, allow charger manufacturers to issue corporate bonds, and seek investment from pension funds.”

While the world celebrated 1,000,000 electric or plug-in hybrid cars in September (since 2010), how bold must be the Chinese plan be to see support for 5,000,000 electric cars solely in China in just few years?

Thanks to generous incentives of different types, China is already experiencing an EV surge with 118,000 electric vehicles (cars / buses / trucks) produced this year through end of August and 108,654 sold (respectively 2.6 and 2.7 times more than year ago).

Source: Xinhua

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37 responses to "China To Build Nationwide Charging Network Capable Of Supporting 5 Million Electric Cars"

  1. David Murray says:

    Maybe this will help lower the cost of charging stations, which will in turn benefit everyone.

    1. Speculawyer says:

      Well . . . China uses a different standard than both the USA and Europe. So it won’t directly affect us. But it should push down the cost of internal components used in all chargers.

      1. Texas FFE says:

        I think you’re guessing. We haven’t been able to find any information on the Chinese charging standard. Plugshare shows several hundred charging stations in China but they almost all Tesla chargers. If you have any real information on the Chinese charging standard please let us know.

      2. Texas FFE says:

        Well I guess I missed it. There is an article on researchhandmarket.com that says China has 24,000 electric vehicle charging piles, these definitely don’t show up on Plugshare. I actually found the link to the article on a previous insideevs.com article. Wikipedia also says that the Chinese standard for DC fast charging uses a Level 2receptacle but pushes the DC power through the AC pins.

        1. EV enthusiast in China says:

          http://chargerlink.com/

          You can check this website out. The story is that a early China Tesla owner purchased multiple charging stations to build a “Blue Sky Road” to Tibet and Shenzhen from Beijing using his company destinations (early destination program). From there, he now has built a company to track all charging stations and sells wifi routers that are linked to a destination charger. It’s the plugshare of China…

          Regarding the GB/T (GuoBiao) Standard for charging, MIIT and CEC are looking into finalizing the standards hopefully by end of this year.

          1. Texas FFE says:

            I’ll have to take your word for what’s on the website, I can’t read Chinese.

  2. SparkEV says:

    They are chargers for NEV, but do they plan to have any fast chargers in the mix? NEV is fine for neighborhoods, but fast charger is needed to have truly practical EV that replace gas cars.

    1. finecadmin says:

      NEV is “New Energy Vehicle.” SparkEV is wrong yer again.

      1. sven says:

        It’s spelled yet, not yer. Finecadmin is wrong yet again. 😉

        1. The Important Takeaway = “NEV is “New Energy Vehicle.” ” in the context of China.

          See: “Beijing Hopes To Quadruple New Energy Vehicles In 2015” – http://cleantechnica.com/2015/03/08/beijing-hopes-quadruple-new-energy-vehicles-2015/

          And, while this story was back in march, they already had some efforts moving in the direction of more public charging stations – “In order to facilitate the development of charging infrastructure, Beijing’s municipal government unveiled a policy in February for the provision of an investment subsidy of 30% to any entities or individuals who build charging stations for public usage.”

          This is followed with an important observation – ” “The amount of time that public vehicles are in operation each day vastly exceeds that of private vehicles,” said Xu, pointing to the huge number of public buses, clean-up vehicles, and postal vans as well as taxis running on Beijing’s roads. “For this reason, I feel that it would be best to start in this area, vigorously promoting the usage [of new energy vehicles.]” ”

          So – since personal cars are typically driven to work, back home (commuters) and errands – much more than on the ‘cross country trips’ every EV complainer contends with, the Chinese have observed this – and realized that the more a car is driven, the more important it is to move that car to Electric Power, instead of Gas or Diesel!

          In a similar Sense – it is really time to get every Diesel moved to at least a Plug-In Hybrid, if not all Electric (Taxi Cars AND Local Delivery Trucks, along with Medium and Long Haul Trucks)!

          You Put one All Electric 10 Ton Truck out there to replace a Diesel one, and you do more than replacing 10 cars, in terms of dirty air!

    2. stimpacker says:

      The above statement is true for suburbia America, like where I live.

      If you’ve ever been to China, that is totally incorrect.

  3. Jeff D says:

    I hope a large number of them are quick charge stations, because you would be able to gain a decent amount of miles even for a short stay.

  4. jelloslug says:

    Welp, so much for hydrogen.

  5. Texas FFE says:

    With China’s controlled economy they have the potential to devote vast resources to a program. Just look at what China has done with high speed trains while the USA still only has one real existing high speed rail corridor. Also just look at how much Cinese electric vehicle market has grown in just the last year. While the United States continues to bicker over who pays for charging stations, the Chinese are going to be building charging networks. The United States is probably going to be envious of the Chinese charging networks in just a few years. I guess that’s just one of the prices we have to pay for the freedoms we enjoy. Maybe when we see a vast Chinese electric vehicle charging infrastructure, that will spur greater cooperation between the manufacturers, service providers and governments in the United States in building out our own charging infrastructure.

    1. Mikael says:

      The freedom of not having the good stuff. You know, almost all industrialized countries have both freedom AND good infrastructure. It’s not like you have to choose one or the other.

      Not to mention all the unwanted “freedoms”…

      1. Texas FFE says:

        The freedom to disagree, argue and complain without getting shot or thrown jail. Most industrialized countries don’t have the abundant energy reserves the United States has and the low energy prices that go with them. Our freedoms are currently causing termoial, we have the choice of buying cheep energy or energy that is sustainable. With freedom comes responsibility. We can disagree about what is best for the country but don’t take away our freedom to disagree. This website is a perfect example of the freedoms we enjoy, the Chinese government would never allow people to talk as openly on topics as we do here. I applaud insiders.com on the tolerance they show the people that post here. That being said, I hope the Chinese government doesn’t hack insiders.com because of our posts.

        1. Ocean Railroader says:

          I don’t think China cares about Inside EVs .in fact they might like it based off of stories like this. In that it tells them what is going on in the US and about all their EV programs and projects.

          I kind of find massive EV projects like China’s a embarrassment to the United States with how we are kind of sliding backwards with ev charger construction.

    2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Texas FFE said:

      “With China’s controlled economy they have the potential to devote vast resources to a program.”

      Yeah, but China — like every other totalitarian State — is really good at announcing one grandiose “five year plan” after another… and not following through.

      I hope that they’re serious about this one. Maybe they are, since China’s leaders are apparently quite serious about reducing air pollution and promoting “New Energy Vehicles”… which, with few exceptions, means PEVs.

      1. Ocean Railroader says:

        I remember taking a collage level course on China. The Chinese Government is extreamly worried about the pollution from all the factories and coal fired power plants. They are also extreamly worried about the car smog causing people to hate the government over the hideous pollution that is out of control. That is why the government is willing to throw huge amounts of resources and money towards it. Which is good.

    3. martinwinlow says:

      I fear all China’s apparent head-long dash into EVs will mean for America is that, short of Tesla, just about every EV in the US will be built in China. The same will be true for the rest of the world. It wouldn’t even surprise me if Teslas will eventually be built there too if not be Chinese-owned!

      The comment attributed to Mr Xu (Xu-who?) regarding leading the EV revolution by example (public service vehicles) is extremely valid. I just wish our (UK) government would stop wasting £m’s on unnecessary home charge points and do the same. MW

  6. Paul says:

    Not only will it spur more cooperation between manufacturers, service providers and governments outside of China, it will bring prices of charging station technology drastically down in China itself. This happened with solar as well. It let to vast worldwide exports and lower prices. It can only be good for us EV-drivers.

  7. Londo Bell says:

    If you really know about China…then DON’T LOOK TOO MUCH INTO THIS (more charging infrastructure).

    It’s just a “PR scam” for the government to try to boost its failing economy by, again, building more infrastructure. In reality, it’s actually having local governments or private companies to borrow money from China’s central bank to have it done. And guess what? That’s exactly what it says on the report (I’ve to admit, I didn’t even look at the post in details before writing the above, then just look to see if it’s being mentioned, and it is!).

    Go research the current state of Chinese economy and why the bubble has burst, and you will understand.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Uh… no. Just no, to every bit of that.

      China’s boom economy has slowed somewhat, but it’s still growing significantly faster than that of any other large nation.

      1. Londo Bell says:

        Like I said, please do research how China got into the boom, and why it’s now collapsing, for the past 10 years.

        Quick example. Infrastructure based expenditure such as railroad and, a lot more significant – buildings – were why the government was able to post 7% GDP in the past, yet the stock market for semi-private companies collapsed like the end of the world a few months ago.

        There are a lot of ghosts town in China, and many developers have bankrupted. How did the developer get their money? The same as how this charging infrastructure are going to be funded. So who now have the “guts” or whatever you call it to repeat the same thing again?

        Oh, and did I mention that the debt of the government is a lot more times than the money it actually has? So how would the government fund the loans? By printing money the only way it can – through foreign investments (note that this is unlike the rest of the world). Every loan that it accepts, allows the government to print more money (regulations prohibit Chinese government to print money just because).

        Now the more important questions – does China have a good EV sales number so far to support the huge surge (potential) in infrastructure, or are the private companies required to wait for a long time to recoup their investments? And what sort of plan does China have on where to build the infrastructure, how to share the cost with local governments, etc.?

        As I said, review the past 10 years in Chinese economy, then rethink if this really is going to work.

    2. Texas FFE says:

      PR scam? Maybe but probably not. 5,000,000 EVs sold by 2020, it’s going to take some very serious government intervention to get any where close to that. Even if local governments and private companies fund most of it, the federal government is going to have really stand on their throats. Saying that the Chinese commitment to charging infrastructure right now is PR is like saying the the plan to build high speed trains was PR right before they laid over two thousand miles of high speed track. Based on what the Chinese have done before I am much inclined to believe this will happen than not. But I’m also just as sure that a lot of Chinese are not going to be happy that this new plan was forced down their throats.

    3. super390 says:

      When the American stock bubble burst in 1929 the only significant success we had in recovery was through government-financed infrastructure projects, culminating in World War 2. So the thing we should fear is that the Chinese will have to stop wasting their money buying US Treasury bills and bailing us out of our own debts. At least China still has the capability to make actual goods, not derivatives or Intellectual Property enforced by authoritarian trade pacts.

  8. Ocean Railroader says:

    I really hope they build some chamo and CSS quick chargers and not create another quick charging standard to make things more complex. In that if they could get some quick chargers all across China and in Mongolia which is mostly friendly to China. If Russia were to build a national system of quick chargers. That means you could drive from China’s Coast to England.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but China has already established its own EV charging format; one not compatible with any other. I think it’s safe to assume that any charger paid for by the Chinese government will use the Chinese format.

      1. Texas FFE says:

        I know China doesn’t allow CHAdeMO or CCS but I don’t really know what the approved standard is. Plugshare lists chargers in China but they are all Tesla chargers (BTW there are no check-ins or pictures on any of the charger listing). It looks like there are more Tesla chargers than Teslas in China. Maybe the Chinese standard is going to be Tesla. I’m just guessing of course since I have no real information but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I’m right.

        1. Ocean Railroader says:

          I have seen Chamo chargers listed in China but there are very few of them. I remember reading that China building it’s own quick charger format has not worked out the way they planned in that it is not ready yet.

        2. Texas FFE says:

          Plugshare is only showing one CHAdeMO charger in China but it’s showing close to one hundred Tesla Superstations. There are a couple of hundred Tesla charging stations in China, including Superchargers, and it looks like most of those have three or four chargers so there are probably about a thousand Tesla chargers in China. If there are only about five thousand Teslas in China then there is about one charger for every five Teslas, that seems like a very high percentage. This appears to be more proof that China is adopting the Tesla charging standard.

        3. Texas FFE says:

          Those Plugshare station listings in China are so weird. It seems like every day more and more stations get added but there are hardly ever any checkins, no pictures or postings at all and most of text is in English. It looks like someone outside of China is working on the contract to install those chargers and then lists them to Plugshare whenever the chargers become operational. I get the feeling not many people in China have access to Plugshare and that the charger information is just so China can show how many chargers they have. This is getting a little spooky. What happens in China if you complain because the chargers are not working or are too expensive or if you complain because you get ICEd? Do you get thrown into EV prison? I know that I’m being silly but China is such a closed society we have very little knowledge of what goes there. I didn’t even know China manufactured and sold electric vehicles until six months ago and then I was shocked to find out they build over thirty different BEV models.

        4. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Thanks for your response. Upon doing a bit of Googling, it looks like China is still in the process of developing its charging format, mis-named a “standard” (because there are several competing EV charging formats worldwide, and no actual standard).

          From a May 12, 2015 Wall Street Journal article:

          “China is developing a national charging standard to promote the use of electric cars and reduce ‘range anxiety’ over how far the cars can travel before running out of power. It remains unclear when the standard will be completed.”

          http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-to-modify-cars-to-meet-china-charging-standards-1431412891

          1. Texas FFE says:

            This just keeps getting weirder and weirder. If China does not have a charging standard then how are they charging the 5000+ plugin electric vehicles they sell there every month?

  9. Ted Wilson says:

    Excellent News.

    Already Japan has 40,000 charging stations and USA has 30,000 chargers.

    China can easily build this since they already have 240 volt network in all their homes.

    So installing Level-2 charger will be simple and only for Level-3 charger(480 volts), they have to spend extra money on the equipment.

    With already the Worlds #1 EV/Plugin sales and big concern about pollution, they should move to electric infrastructure.

    China rolled out lot of CNG stations and they have the lead in the # of Natgas Vehicles.
    http://www.ngvexpo.com/msg.php?id=1631

  10. Len Williams says:

    The truth is that they have already liquidated their Treasuries and are spending a great deal on improving the pollution as well as getting ready for WWIII. Which they will side with Russians against the British Toadies including the USA