Chevy Volt, Bolt Lead Charge In Canada’s 2017 May Sales

3 months ago by Eric Loveday 44

 

Current Chevrolet Volt

In May, General Motors scored a one, two combo on top the sales charts for plug-in vehicles in Canada.

Chevrolet Bolt

Chevrolet Bolt

The Chevrolet Volt led the way by a wide margin, but the Chevy Bolt was soundly in the number two spot.

With 404 units sold in May, the Volt grabbed the top spot and moved its year-to-date sales up to 1,651.

Meanwhile, the Bolt sold 177 units in May, for a year-to-date figure of 697.

Nissan LEAF sales checked in at 122 units in May bringing its year-to-date tally to 586.

Sales of the Tesla Model S and X lag behind by one month in reporting, so we’ve only got figure through April now. Model S sales in April stood at 85 units, while the Model X check in at 75 units. Combined, the two Tesla have sold just less than 1,000 YTD (through end of April) in Canada.

The only other known sales figures for May include 6 Mitsubishi i-MiEVs sold and a combined 22 BMW i3/i8 sales.

There’s been no competition for the Volt this year, as the next closest seller in YTD is in fact the Bolt at 697 versus the Volt’s 1,651.

Source: Green Car Reports

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44 responses to "Chevy Volt, Bolt Lead Charge In Canada’s 2017 May Sales"

  1. Mikael says:

    Still very weak numbers for Canada. So why isn’t the market taking of there?

    I am not expecting Nordic countries numbers but is it too much asked for them to aim higher than Portugal?

    Or even beat the US.

    1. bro1999 says:

      Canada’s population: 38.5 million
      America’s population: 321.4 million

      US is almost 10 times the population of Canada. Extrapolate the numbers and Canadian sales are better than US sales, on a per-person scale.

      1. SparkEV says:

        CA population is 39.2 million, and more are sold here than Canada. We should officially make Canada the 51st state, even just to save them from their alphabet.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSTWw6-ueIs

        1. cmg186 says:

          No thanks, eh.

        2. Chester Koenig says:

          Keep my beautiful country away from your grubby hands, thank you very much!

          1. Kevin C. says:

            I would gladly move to Canada but they have enough sense to not let me in.
            Good on you Canada😀

            Are we cousins divided by a common language?

        3. Eco says:

          How about California becoming the 11th Province? 🙂

          1. SparkEV says:

            Why? So CA as 11th province must wait for EV to be released and have low EV sales?

            I think even better is to make Canada a county of CA with Quebec acting as French speaking Barrio, kind of like East LA is (was?) Spanish speaking Barrio of LA county. Then all you canucks would get EV just as quick as the rest of CA folks.

      2. Mikael says:

        Percentage of sales is still lower than the US. And the US is not really the yard stick either since it’s not really know for being progressive and environmentally friendly.

        I expect more of Canada than I do of the US.

      3. Threader says:

        Fuel costs are also higher in Canada compounded by colder weather and snow for higher fuel consumption overall throughout majority of country.

    2. Prairie boy says:

      Simple. We have vast distances to travel. Not everyone lives in a big city with a short commute. If someone made a $30000 all electric car with awd for winter and a 700km range I’d bite. But until that happens, or until I chose not to drive 200-300km commutes to jobs or until I choose to not live in the country (unlikely), then these piddly 200km range cars are useless. And no, I can’t afford a P100D. And if I did, my main commute would require at least 3 charges round trip.

      1. LS says:

        Maybe move closer to work? Not so you can get an electric car but rather so you don’t waste so much of your life in one.

        1. AlphaEdge says:

          Sometimes where people live has deep roots.

      2. David S. says:

        3 charges x 500 km x 6 L/100km * 1$/L = 90$ commute. That’s 1800$ a month for gas. You can afford a Tesla Model S! 😉

      3. Chester Koenig says:

        With all of that stated, you’re definitely in the minority still. The vast majority of Canadians live in cities and I find the issue that we have here (especially in the prarie provinces… I live in Calgary) is that the idea of EVs hasn’t permeated into general knowledge yet and most of the provinces don’t offer EV incentives at this point. Because the adoption rate is rather low, the charging infrastructure is close to non-existent which exacerbates the problem.

      4. Mikael says:

        More than enough people live in cities and don’t travel that far. Even then a PHEV would still work without any adaptation for people who want to go on cross country trips too.

      5. Brett says:

        @Prairie boy – You can speak for your province, but most people don’t need a 700km range in Canada. 50% of the population lives in the 10 largest cities, and the average commuter in Canada spends 26 minutes travelling to works (Statistics Canada).

        The impact of the foreign exchange rate has a far more significant impact on vehicle sales in Canada.

    3. Matthew Fabb says:

      Right now you can’t buy a 2017 Chevy Bolt, all the stock allocated to Canada has been purchased until the end of the year. If you walk into a Chevy dealership in Canada now, the best they can do is put you on the waitlist for a 2018 Bolt.

      Volkswagen’s eGolf hasn’t been released but VW Canada have closed off preorders.

      The Hyundai Ioniq electric launched this May and quickly sold out of all their stock. There are a number of people with orders for the Ioniq electric with pick up dates that keep getting pushed out. In Europe, people are waiting around 6 months for a new Ioniq electric and hopefully Canadians who have put down a deposit won’t have to wait that long.

      Basically demand for electric cars could be LOT higher in Canada if car companies actually made more of an effort to increase the amount of stock available. The numbers aren’t going to go up with there isn’t any stock there to buy.

      1. Mikael says:

        That I can buy as an explanation. It is hard to buy something that is not available.

      2. an_outsider says:

        Most Canadian prospect EV buyers write in EV forums they have been told 6 to 8 months average waiting time for a Bolt EV…

        The demand is there, the supply isn’t.

        1. an_outsider says:

          I meant Bolt EV prospect

      3. Abyscat says:

        This. I’ve been trying to buy a Bolt for months. No one will take my money!

      4. Nada says:

        Maybe the new Leaf will change how many EVs Chevy Hyundai and the others produce stock and sell…
        After all Nissan is the only legacy who genuienly seems ready and willing to sell all the EVs they can at this time…

      5. Dean says:

        I pre-ordered a Chev Bolt 3 months ago and put my money down. The dealer said they would quickly allocate a production slot for me and then I would have to wait until it was manufactured. So far, they can’t even hint at when it will be put into a production slot, let alone actually being produced.

        Honda (my preferred manufacturer) is still testing their EV’s so I doubt we will see any Honda EV’s for a couple of years.

        I agree with you that the demand seems to there but the supply is being throttled.

        Specific to the Bolt, I did notice something odd. If you work up the price and factor in exchange rate, it seems as though the Bolt is several thousand dollars less in Canada. Added to this, the onboard Level 2 inverter and the Level 1 charge cable are standard, and included in the quoted base price.

      6. Richard Vernon says:

        I had the same experience, was looking to buy a Bolt, when informed of the wait switched to Volt.

    4. Willy Leavitt says:

      Most Canadian dealers haven’t had one in stock yet, it’s a supply problem not demand

  2. Orphancarguy says:

    The market isn’t taking off because the price is still way too high for what you get. Want to buy a new 30 kWh Leaf with some options for about $40K after HST and no rebates? The few reasonably capable vehicles suffer from lack of charging infrastructure. Sure, there are Level 2 chargers but try going from Montreal to Charlottetown, or from Charlottetown to Bangor ME, or Calgary to Kenora even in a Tesla S 100D. It can be done, it has been done, but…

    1. Neromanceres says:

      What make you think the market isn’t taking off. Dealers here are selling every Bolt and Volt they can get their hands on.

      Remember Canada is 1/10th the market of the US and on a per capita basis we are selling far more EV’s than the US.

  3. Malcolm Scott says:

    Why are BMW sales so poor, relatively speaking to others in Canadian market and in comparison with the US? There are the normal reasons being offered re looks and range of current model, but this holds true everywhere.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Like most OEMs, they don’t price to market in Canada. Chevy does (as does Nissan)….so they obviously take the bulk of sales, and make it impossible to compete for those that don’t.

      For example, a Volt/LEAF in Ontario (where the bulk of sales are over the past couple months) can routinely be leased for $~240 these days, the BMW i3 REx is north of $600. The Bolt EV will set you back $340 ($260 USD)…as long as you don’t let GM “math you” inside that lease.

      Rare is the day BMW is marking down/offering a deal on an i Brand vehicle in Canada (usually it is no deal and 5.9 or 2.9 financing). BMW also likes to put ~$2,800+ worth of “fees” on a purchase in Canada, the very top end of the fee-spectrum, which makes even a zero MSRP car lease for ~$90 a month/36 months.

      Basically, if you “want” a BMW i3, then you go buy it…ignoring all others regardless. But if you are even mildly “shopping” for a plug-in and are looking around at what is out there/value…then you aren’t going to buy a BMW.

      1. AlphaEdge says:

        Hi Jay,

        > The Bolt EV will set you back $340 ($260 USD)…as long as you don’t let GM “math you” inside that lease.

        How do you figure that out, as last time I checked on their website (Yes, the Canadian Chevy website: chevrolet.ca), it’s like around $600 CDN.

        Right now, I can’t bring up the monthly lease price looking at the “build and price” as it’s not working.

        1. AlphaEdge says:

          MSRP: $43,095
          Freight & A/C Tax: $1,700
          Total: $44,795

          Oh OK, I think I see the difference. If I put in my Vancouver area code, it’s $39,795, but’s it $32,406 list price in Ontario! Big difference, due to the larger gov’t rebate there!

          1. Jay Cole says:

            Yeah, the online calculator doesn’t “math” rebates properly. Even when you go into a dealer, you have to be careful.

            If you are in a rebate province, your best/no nonsense way to do things, is get the best price first, then have them work a lease from that price (outside/ex the rebate).

            So in Ontario which has a 14k rebate, you put “$14,000 down” yourself inside that lease as a cap reduction, and then apply yourself for the rebate after you get the bill of sale. Takes about 3 weeks to get the check in the mail.

            Important thing is to keep your leverage through the process, then recoup the full 100%.

            /no dealer bs

            1. AlphaEdge says:

              Interesting. Did not know that. Thanks.

      2. SparkEV says:

        From Chevy’s perspective, selling in Canada at lower profit makes no sense when they can make more money in US. Only when the demand has waned enough in US would Chevy throw some left-over bones to Canada at lower price. Maybe this explains why some here say there’s shortage in Canada.

  4. OakvilleGuard says:

    The waiting period for Bolt in Canada is about 3-5 months, most of the dealers allocations are already being taken, so Canadians already had bought all the Bolts GM gave us. So it is a question to GM, it is going to give us more ? There is a clear demand, I’m answering questions every day about my Premier, so it is not the price issue, it is a supply issue.

    1. Mikael says:

      I hope that everyone that wants an EV calls and complain about not being able to get it.

      So that dealers and the car companies can really feel the heat.

  5. Breezy says:

    This is good, and it’s heading in the right direction. Sales are up considerably. We’re buying all the Volts and Bolts we can get in Ontario thanks to the $14,000 rebate.

    And a lot of people have been holding off waiting for the Model 3.

  6. AlphaEdge says:

    I have yet to see a Bolt here in Vancouver. Been looking, and hoping to see one, but none yet. 🙁

    1. abc123 says:

      I’ve seen a couple already. It looks better in person than in the pictures. I still like the styling and interior of my Volt though.

  7. unlucky says:

    @WRVoltec seems to indicate that 2018 Bolt pricing/order sheets exist. Anyone seen anything about this?

    Any model changes? Price changes?

    1. unlucky says:

      My mistake. It is 2018 Volt pricing.

  8. Dr Gez says:

    I was told my Chevy Canada that pre-orders for the 2018 Bolt will happen in October 2018, start of production date is Dec 18, 2017 so deliveries in Q1 2018? Dealers do not have allocations yet and once they do, they may be able to do the builds a bit before October 2017 so you get an order number. When I got that info, I cancelled my Bolt waitlist reservation and purchased the Volt. Great car and available! Some dealers have a waitlist for Bolt greater than their last year allocation so if those numbers are the same, some people may need to wait to 2019!

    1. Dr Gez says:

      Correction – preorder start October 2017

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