How To Charge Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Video)

3 years ago by Mark Kane 28

Outlander PHEV

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

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Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and CHAdeMO charger

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV is probably the most flexible plug-in hybrid ever made in terms of recharging .

Besides the standard J1772 AC inlet, which can be used to charge from a J1772 AC charging station or from home outlet via EVSE cable attached in the trunk, it has a CHAdeMO inlet too.

This is one of only a few plug-in hybrids with a fast charging option. We are not sure if anybody will use the fast charging option since the ICE backup is onboard, (especially if charging fees are comparable to fuel costs) but Mitsubishi provide this feature as standard just in case.

Here is video on how to charge the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV in UK.

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28 responses to "How To Charge Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Video)"

  1. Aaron says:

    The CHAdeMO port will be useful when all the L2 chargers are taken.

    1. Assaf says:

      In its home country of Japan where ChaDeMo’s are found on every street corner and many of them are free (or possibly subscription-based), using L3 for the Outlander PHEV makes all the sense in the world.

      It’d probably take 10 minutes or less to recharge the 12KWh battery to 80% on most L3 stations.

      If you’re in the city, that probably buys you another 30 miles or so. If it’s free, who cares? If it costs – how much does gas cost in Japan? Seems to be at least $1.5/liter in the city. Do your math and see.

  2. Jeff D says:

    “This is one of only a few plug-in hybrids with a fast charging option. We are not sure if anybody will use the fast charging option since the ICE backup is onboard, (especially if charging fees are comparable to fuel costs) but Mitsubishi provide this feature as standard just in case.”
    I think it is a good idea to have CHAdeMO now because as they increase battery size and rely less on the ICE, quick charging will be more of a demand and they won’t have to think about how to add it later.

  3. Sam EV says:

    Did it say the CHAdeMO would fill the battery to 80% in as little as 30 minutes? That seems really long considering you can fill the Leaf battery to 80% in that time.

    1. Assaf says:

      ChaDeMo rarely takes 30 minutes. I have yet to see it take more than 20 minutes on our Leaf which has a battery double the size of the Outlander.

      More likely, 10 minutes or less. Definitely worth it, esp. if it’s free.

    2. KenZ says:

      Yeah, the issue isn’t how much power output the station has, but how fast the batteries can accept charge. So comparing the Leaf and the Outlander, yes, they both charge to about 80% in 30 min because that’s the (generally accepted) charge rate for Li-Ion. Yeah, yeah, there are exceptions to this with different chemistries, but this should answer your question sufficiently.

      1. Sam EV says:

        That still doesn’t make sense to me. The Outlander has a 12 kWh battery and the Leaf has a battery twice that size. Shouldn’t the Outlander charge in roughly half the time?

        1. JakeY says:

          Battery maximum charging speed is determined by C-rate (basically one hour divided the amount of time to charge a battery). A given battery chemistry that has a 1C charging rate can be safely charged to full in 1 hour, 2C in 30 minutes, 3C in 20 minutes and so on. This does not vary with capacity!

          Another commenter set a good example at the extreme: what would you expect to happen to a tiny cell phone battery that you try to charge with this 50kW charger? It would be destroyed rather than being safely charged in one second. Apply the same principle to this situation, except in a less extreme way.

          Another way to think of it is that a battery pack with half the capacity has half the cells, so each cell will see twice the power as the ones in the larger pack. For each cell to see the same amount of power, the power supplied to the pack would need to be half. So if a 24kWh pack can charge at 50kW, a 12kWh pack needs to charge at 20kW for the cells to see the same amount of power.

          1. Lee Colleton says:

            I see different charging rates with my i-MiEV depending on whether I’m using a 20kW or 50kW CHAdeMO station. 20kW takes 30-40 minutes, 50kW takes 20-30 minutes.

  4. “We are not sure if anybody will use the fast charging option since the ICE backup is onboard”.

    Of course people will use it. People buy plug-in vehicles because they want to drive on electricity. If they can plug-in for 20 minutes while at a rest stop and then boost their MPG/e average over the next 100 mile leg, that’s great. Sure it will be used far less in a PHEV than a BEV, but it will be used. Many PHEV drivers do all they can to keep the ICE off whenever possible.

    1. John Hansen says:

      Agree. The reason a PHEV wouldn’t plug in, given the opportunity, is because it takes too long to be practical. My Volt only charges at 3.3kw. If I had a fast charger, and if the stations were actually placed in useful locations along highways, you bet I would use it!

    2. Spec9 says:

      Uh . . . why pay $5 for $1 worth of electricity when you can drive on gasoline for less? Perhaps some hardcore EV purists would do it but why would they be driving a PHEV in the first place?

      1. KenZ says:

        For our Volt, we will pay UP TO the cost of gas for a pay station (1772 only obviously), but not more. Not because I’m not willing to pay more for electricity to use electricity, but because I refuse to send ridiculous pricing feedback to these electricity resellers. I don’t mind them making a profit, but I don’t want to encourage them to price electricity above gas.

        1. Spec9 says:

          Good. The pure EV drivers appreciate you not taking up a charging station when you really don’t need to use it.

          As an EV driver, I don’t mind paying above market rates for electricity from chargers. 95% of the time I will charge at home but when I need a charge out in public what I am paying for is the ability to access a charger that costs money to install and maintain. The electricity is only a tiny part of their costs.

      2. GSP says:

        Uh, why pay $4/gallon when you can plug into a free public CHAdeMo DC fast charger instead?

        GSP

  5. John Hansen says:

    Good for Mitsubishi for including DC fast charging! It seems like most of their iMievs include it as well. The rest of the car companies should include DC fast charging as standard equipment as well, it would help to speed the installation of DC fast chargers (because the market would be bigger) and therefore help to speed the adoption of EVs.

  6. Spec9 says:

    I find it amusing that a 12KWH battery has a DC-fast charger. And since most DC-fast chargers charge a significant amount of money to charge, you’ll be paying more for that electricity than if you had just driven on gasoline! But perhaps lots of the Chademo chargers in Japan are free?

  7. Jay Donnaway says:

    All of the 2014 iMiEVs include CHAdeMO, and DC fast charging will indeed be used by Outlander PHEV drivers, when it finally arrives in the USA. I’m already paying for unlimited Aerovironment DCFC access with my iMiEV, so do you think I’d bypass a restaurant with DCFC on an Outlander road trip? The iMiEV takes a max of 19 minutes for DCFC, usually 15. The Outlander PHEV has only a 12 kWh battery, so should only take 13 minutes for DCFC.

  8. SparkEVDriver says:

    The reason it takes 30 minutes for an 80% charge is so not to stress the battery. Assuming abundant power is available, small and large batteries of the same chemistry would all take the same amount of time to charge. An extreme example would be expecting your cell phone to fully charge in under a second when connected to a 50kW charger. Sure, the charger could supply the current, but the battery would not survive.

    Other advantages to DC charging ports are they allow you to connect as part of your vehicle to home power system, or to use an off board charger such as the 12kW or 25kW DC chargers from Electric Motor Werks that are in development.

    1. Spec9 says:

      Which means they are charging at a slow rate . . . and thus not really taking advantage of the faster charging offered by a DC-fast charger.

      1. GSP says:

        Get a clue about batteries. Ignorance is not bliss.

        They are all charging at the same C-rate.

        GSP

  9. LEAFboi says:

    Maybe cross your fingers in the USA for the chademo to be included. In Australia it has been removed and not even available as an option to upgrade/add.

  10. GRA says:

    I’ve never understood the rationale behind putting QC on PHEVs with ICE range. If I’m on a road trip, which do you think I’m going to choose – stop for 5 minutes and gain another 300 miles of range, or stop for 30 and gain another 20-25?

    In the case of the i3 w/Rex and its ridiculously small tank, I could almost see having QC. If I’ve got to stop every hour for gas I’m not going to take the car more than one or two stops away anyway, and with a single 30 minute stop I can probably add about 120 miles of range if I fill the tank and charge the battery, versus two 5 or 10 minute stops just for gas.

    But for a PHEV with vastly greater range on gas than on the battery? Not happening – I’ll save the battery for urban/stop and go driving en route or arriving and leaving my destination.

    1. Suprise Cat says:

      CHAdeMO is a dual use system. You can run the ICE and get power out of the CHAdeMO plug using an DC-AC converter. It’s a mobile emergency power system.

    2. GSP says:

      True for road trips, but the CHAdeMo is great for topping off when driving around town on smooth electric drive.

      Not having to use the ICE is a better driver experience.

      GSP

      1. Lee Colleton says:

        They’re considering a carbon tax. Does it make sense now?

  11. Malcolm Scott says:

    Not all markets get the DC fast charging capability. Unfortunately the Australian market Outlander PHEV does not have the CHAdeMO port, perhaps a reflection of how few stations have been installed, and especially in family market areas where I suspect Mitsubishi Australia is marketing the Outlander PHEV.

    Interestingly, the equivalent video for the Australian market makes no mention of public charging infrastructure that can be used, there is a 1/2 sec part of the video that shows (but not discusses) a wall mount home unit, and for the rest of the time the focus is on using the standard portable charging cable at home, and charging using the ICE.

    No mention is made that the home 10 amp standard charging cable will be slower than the public charging stations that can provide the full 3.3 kW AC that the Outlander can draw on.

    Strangely the Australian Outlander PHEV standard charging cable is a 10 amp unit with a 15 amp plug, whereas the Volt is a 10 amp plug for the 10 amp EVSE. I’ve not heard of any problems with the Volt, so why did Mitsubishi provide a very conservative solution? Most Australian homes do not have a 15 amp power outlet, at all, let alone one in the garage. I’ve already seen dealerships using short converting leads, which defeats the conservative design.