CHAdeMO Issues Response Statement to European Parliament Draft Which Calls For “Termination” of CHAdeMO

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Nissan Is A Founding Member And The Driving Force Behind The CHAdeMO Protocol

Nissan Is A Founding Member And The Driving Force Behind The CHAdeMO Protocol

CHAdeMO Association recently published its response on the European Parliament’s draft on the deployment of alternative fuels infrastructure.  The initial draft aroused fears that the CHAdeMO standard will be slowly phased out in Europe.

From Left to Right: Mennekes, CHAdeMO and Combo

From Left to Right: Mennekes, CHAdeMO and Combo

First of all, CHAdeMO Association sees the problem that we were describing earlier that “a time-limited transitional period ending on 31 December 2018” is big hit for CHAdeMO – members, CHAdeMO-capable EV owners and infrastructure investors.

“This idea of a potential “end date” in mere five years has triggered a great deal of concerns and questions among e-mobility investors that have brought about some unfavourable reactions in the markets already. In fact, some EV fast charging infrastructure projects are stalling or delayed here in Europe. Five years obviously is not long enough to convince investors to support CHAdeMO in the long term.

Without a clear statement, many people fear that the winner has already been chosen by the European Union and that CHAdeMO will be slowly marginalized. This situation is of course in favor of the Combined Charge System alliance.

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In Europe, there are now almost 30,000 CHAdeMO-enabled EVs and almost 900 CHAdeMO fast chargers. In comparison to the non-existent CCS infrastructure and no vehicles on the market (sales begins at the end of the year).

The main question is, will BMW and VW start to sell EVs and install quick chargers in volume to meet Nissan levels or will the new law will force CHAdeMO alliance (mainly Nissan) and operators to install dual-standard (instead of potentially banned CHAdeMO-only) to build infrastructure for companies that weren’t (and perhaps still aren’t) so committed to EVs?

We must remember that the range-extender option for the BMW i3 is expected to account for a significant % of sales and that VWs will have CCS just as an option.

Also, on the logic side – a dual-standard point at BMW, VW or Ford dealers will serve many Nissan LEAFs and Mitsubishi i-MiEV owners. On the flip side, dual-standard at Nissan dealers will be used mainly by CHAdeMO-enabled because CCS cars are overhelmed maybe 300:1 and this proportion still growing.

So, if we should force anybody from a single-standard to a multi-standard, we think it should be the player with less vehicles on the market.

The European Union helped this problem to swell by adopting standards very slowly.

Now, the European Union is left with 3 options:

  • Do nothing (you can install whatever charging station you want and market will develop its own way)
  • Harm CHAdeMO alliance in favor of CCS alliance (you must install CCS or multi-standard unit)
  • Force all to have multi-standard (making costs unnecessarily higher because not both standards will be needed in all locations)

It’s our belief that perhaps the right option is for the European Union to do nothing.  The EU was to slow to react and the market has already established itself.

Original Press Release:

CHADEMO STATEMENT ON THE TRAN COMMITTEE DRAFT REPORT ON THE PROPOSAL FOR A DIRECTIVE ON THE DEPLOYMENT OF ALTERNATIVE FUELS INFRASTRUCTURE

In response to the European Commission proposal for a directive on the deployment of alternative fuels infrastructure, the Committee on Transport and Tourism of the European Parliament has prepared a draft report. While this draft is yet to be discussed by the distinguished members of the European Parliament in the coming months, as this shall be the base of these upcoming discussions, CHAdeMO Association wishes to express its reactions to the proposed wording of this draft report*.

First of all, CHAdeMO Association welcomes the first reference to the CHAdeMO DC fast charging protocol in this draft. CHAdeMO is clearly recognised as the existing standard and an “alternative” connector to Combo2.

However, the draft’s suggestion that such adoption of CHAdeMO be “a time-limited transitional period ending on 31 December 2018” is problematic. This idea of a potential “end date” in mere five years has triggered a great deal of concerns and questions among e-mobility investors that have brought about some unfavourable reactions in the markets already. In fact, some EV fast charging infrastructure projects are stalling or delayed here in Europe. Five years obviously is not long enough to convince investors to support CHAdeMO in the long term.

The suggested time-limited period is also causing unnecessary confusions about the future of fast charging infrastructure already installed. Existing CHAdeMO-enabled EVs will need to be serviced for a period of 10+ years at least, and the existing infrastructure and related charging service businesses will need to continue accordingly.

These question marks would inevitably risk the overall EV market to stall, since CHAdeMO is the only widely commercialized and readily available DC fast charging technology today, and there is no other type of fast chargers that is proven to be reliable for public installation or EVs equipped with such technology.

The industry is aligned on the principle that the dual-standard chargers should be the way forward. A number of European charger manufacturers have already developed and released dual-standard chargers that can service all EVs equipped with different types of fast-charging standards including CHAdeMO. Such dual-standard chargers shall be welcomed by the almost 30,000 current CHAdeMO-enabled EV users and by all future users in Europe, as more charge stations mean more charge points for all. This shall be a good solution for investors in the public charging business as it will enable them to recover costs faster. The automakers shall also welcome this, as the lack of charging infrastructure will no longer be an issue for their EV business.

CHAdeMO Association believes that such dual-standard chargers equipped with both CHAdeMO and Combo2 should be the European standard. We sincerely hope that the European Union will duly support this industry initiative.”

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21 responses to "CHAdeMO Issues Response Statement to European Parliament Draft Which Calls For “Termination” of CHAdeMO"

  1. scottf200 says:

    The last section of the press release sure sounds like they don’t think they can be a world standard anymore but looking for a way to stay in the game … that is promote dual standard chargers. That is the way it reads/feels to me.

    1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      Well, they know that a standard is coming. They know they’d not take ChaDeMo as the standard at this point. So, the best they can do is to force a dual standard instead of 1 + optional 2nd.

      To be honest I expect a 1+optional model and the market will decide how that goes.

      1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

        Oh, I think there’ll be the “Tesla rule” that a manufacturer can build their own chargers to their own standard.

    2. io says:

      Nothing new here. VW and Nissan announced months ago they were cool with the idea of dual-plug chargers (or even triple, I guess, to keep Renault happy too… Yes, Europe is a serious mess when it comes to EV charging).

      That is also the direction the EU parliament is going, although it’s in no hurry. There has never been a question of “terminating” anything at any time btw, only that a decision should be made by 2019.
      http://fionahall.org.uk/en/article/2013/713537/no-electric-car-charger-ban-hall

      Peace.

  2. BrainKnot says:

    Leaf users should try to buy CHADEMO less cars and walk out of the dealership becuase of lack of CHADEMO… that might send an interesting signal to auto manufacturers when they start getting repors from the field.

    1. Brian says:

      Are you really saying that people should ask to buy Leafs without the CHAdeMO option and then throw a fit because there is no CHAdeMO? How does that make any sense?

  3. Loboc says:

    This thing is getting out of hand. Now we have CHAdEMO, SAE and Tesla. All incompatible with each other. I prefer the SAE standard and all EVs should support it. Even if they need an adapter or retrofitting.

    Heck, doesn’t Leaf already have the J-standard as well as CHAdEMO? All they need to do is use the SAE DC standard in the same slot on the car.

    In other words, make the EVs dual (tri?)-support, not the other way around.

    1. Brian says:

      It’s a lot cheaper (and easier) to make hundreds of stations support multiple standards than tens of thousands of cars

      1. io says:

        It’d be a lot easier and cheaper still to simply not start making CCS cars and chargers in the first place, duh!

        But no, many US and German automakers want their own “invented here”, and don’t realize how harmful their childish behavior is to EVs in general.
        Wait… maybe that’s exactly their goal.

    2. Aaron says:

      Tesla said they will have adapters for the CHAdeMO standard, but only in Japan. It will be interesting if they build an adapter for the SAE standard.

      http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-adapters

  4. Suprise Cat says:

    There will not be a single model with default CCS port in Europe. CCS is only optional and this will keep the number of CCS compatible cars well below Chademo compatible cars.

  5. I think it’s brilliant for the CHAdeMO association to promote dual stations. Like the NRG/EVgo deal in California, CHAdeMO is always there and the “disinterested” EV manufacturers can add whatever standard they want. At the end of the draft period, there will likely be beau coup CHAdeMO and Tesla and not so many of the others (except in Germany, which is openly supporting the German car manufacturers with a government sponsored build out of the German standard there).

    It’s funny how Tesla is completely overlooked in all this regulation!!!

      1. Ocean Railroader says:

        Tesla has it easier then the others in that they are only building their supercharger stations for their own company built cars and not everyone else. They are so far mostly using their own money to build these stations while the other car markers are asking the government for help.

        As for the multiple standards I would support a charging station that could charge two or three different types of cars at once that way you don’t have to worry about your public charger station getting outdated should one standard should win or not.

  6. Bloggin says:

    The UK is planning for the future, since most all manufacturers will be installing the CCS in the highest volume of vehicles over the next year. It really doesn’t matter what the UK does, it’s more of charging station companies are looking at what the vehicle landscape will be in the near future, and it’s not going to be the Japanese standard.

    Renault/Nissan will be on their own with the Japanese standard in Europe and the US, and will adopt to the CCS with next gen EVs.

    Just think about it. Once the Volt/Ampera goes CCS, thats a large potion of the plug-in market right there. Focus Electric, i3, e-Golf, e-Up, A3 e-Tron launching in 2014, will further expand the market share of CCS vehicles. Renault/Nissan vehicles

    The remaining Japanese standard charging stations will remain, become duel CCS stations or switch all together to CCS as CCS vehicles dominate the marketplace. But new stations will be duel or CCS only.

    All but those installed by Renault/Nissan, who clearly have a vested interest in the Japanese standard charging stations to support their long term battery rental/revenue scheme. It seems their current fan cooled battery pack can’t handle the faster CCS charging without even faster battery capacity failure.

  7. Only a couple of EV auto manufactures (Nissan, Tesla) are rolling out charging infrastructure at this time. Auto manufactures can design any type of plug they want into their latest electric vehicle, but a vehicles range will be limited unless they can plug into real world infrastructure.

    For consumers the choice is between a vehicle having infrastructure support and vehicles having little, or no support. Range Anxiety is getting real for manufactures! A couple years ago competition was equal with limited infrastructure, but the terrain is quickly changing. Without widespread deployment, auto manufactures will find their EV sales market limited to isolated islands of infrastructure. It’s a hard sell if you have no coverage in your sales territory. Time to crank up vehicle production for those wanting to establish market share.

    Hint: Multiple countries have established manufactures with a Top-5 market share and greater than 80% infrastructure coverage exists for their EVs. Norway and Japan are easy examples on quickly filling map. Can you name additional manufactures and countries for 2014? 2016?

    PS: Cooperation is an effective method to increasing coverage. Superior design is effective for maintaining longterm market share.

  8. HVACman says:

    At gm-volt.com, WOT wrote a detailed discussion about the SAE combo charger standard’s evolution and Chademo’s involvement (or lack of) in the standards development process. It includes a heated “debate” between Tony Williams and WOT, both making passionate arguments. Interesting read.

    http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?49001-DC-fast-charger-option-to-cost-750/page3&highlight=WOT+chademo

    I rely relentlessly on ASTM, ANSI, ASME, ASHRAE and other professional and industry organizations that evolve uniform standards for the HVAC materials, methods, and systems that I specify. Their goals are to both ensure safety and where applicable, industry-wide inter-operational or dimensional compatibility. WOT’s arguments were compelling on why the SAE should be the lead organization to evolve industry EV charging standards. The battle is yet young. I think the SAE will eventually end up on top.

    1. io says:

      One needs to wonder, however: when it comes to EVs and surrounding standards, which organization deserves to be trusted more; for interoperability, reliability etc, but most importantly safety.
      Simplifying to the extreme, if you had a say, which one would you pick?

      1) Electrical company (in the business of selling electricity)
      or
      2) Traditional automaker (in the business of selling ICEVs).

      My choice is clear, thanks.

  9. GSP says:

    I like the last option best. The dual standard stations do not cost significantly more. This would be best for all EV buyers. Let the buyers decide which standard they want, and to charge anywhere they want.

    GSP

  10. http://fionahall.org.uk/en/article/2013/713537/no-electric-car-charger-ban-hall

    No electric car charger ban – Hall
    August 12, 2013 4:24 PM

    Following a meeting with representatives from Nissan and ZeroCarbonFutures, the leader of the Liberal Democrats in the European Parliament, Fiona Hall MEP, has quashed industry rumours that the CHAdeMO quick chargers widely installed across the UK and Europe will be banned under draft European legislation.

    North East Euro MP Fiona, who sits on the Industry Committee in the European Parliament, said: “CHAdeMO quick chargers are not going to be banned.

    “The draft legislation proposes the introduction of a new, additional quick charger called Combo although there a currently no Combo chargers or Combo-compatible cars on the road.

    “I will be working to make sure that the legal text states clearly that CHAdeMO chargers will continue in use and that the new regulations from 2018 are all about introducing multi-standard chargers so that all types of electric vehicles are catered for.

    “These multi-standard chargers are currently being installed under the TEN-T project by a consortium of Nissan, BMW, ESB, Renault and VW. This is exactly the joint technological approach which is needed to give all users of electric vehicles the access to quick chargers they need.”